Always a victim, offended by everything and ashamed of nothing. Have some shame”.
This is a sample of the kind of responses I have received for my article in ThePrint highlighting how Nirmala Sitharaman’s 2019 Budget ignored Dalits.
Casteist comments are made to either criticise Dalits over matters like reservation or to perpetuate the stereotypes that the community fights every day.
So, here’s a list of things that you, the so-called upper castes, should never say to, or ask, Dalits.
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If the list below makes you uncomfortable, great. Dalits are not here to make you feel comfortable.
1. Starting with the most common statement (or its variants) that Dalits hear: “You do not look like a Dalit” or “you do not speak or dress like a Dalit” or “you cannot be Dalit as you have scored well in the examinations”. (How are we supposed to look like? Can’t we do well in exams?)
2. “You are the smartest Dalit I have ever known!” (How many Dalits have you ever met?)
3. “This is hypocrisy that you let your Dalit friends call you ‘chamar’ but I am not allowed to.” (One has to understand the power dynamics in society and the intentions behind using words that have been rejected by Dalits.)
4. After saying something bad about Dalits in front of a Dalit: “Oh not you, you are different and not like other Dalits”. (What made you think that I am not like other Dalits? Your prejudices.)
5. All those questions that start with “So, do Dalits…?” Or, responses like “Not all upper-castes…”. (While asking “do Dalits…”, you are putting Dalits in a separate category and creating an ‘us’ vs ‘them’ binary. Indeed, not all upper castes, but then how about most?)
6. “Oh my God! I went to a Dalit basti and felt the need to do so much. Have you ever been there?” (All this while posting pictures on social media of semi-naked Dalit children playing in a slum.)
7. “We all are being discriminated against, not only Dalits.” (No, you are not. And you have no idea what discrimination is.)
8. “Why must you write on Dalit issues when you can write on anything else?” (Because I can and not many are doing it.)
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9. “I consider myself Dalit – I do not know my caste, I clean my own toilet and I had a Dalit boyfriend/girlfriend.” (Why does every casteist have one Dalit friend? If this would have been the case, India would be a country of Dalits.)
10. “Why can’t Dalits just change their surname and escape the caste discrimination?” “How can you be a Dalit when you have a surname that is common among Brahmins?” (Okay, why don’t Brahmins just end the caste discrimination by giving up their Brahmin surnames and take a Dalit surname or none at all?)
11. “You must understand the RSS.” (Yes, Dalits do. It’s a dangerous organisation.)
12. “Why do you support reservation when you already have a good job?” (Caste discrimination doesn’t stop with Dalits having a good job.)
13. “Are you really Dalit?” (No, just trying to find if my ancestors were non-Dalit.)
14. “You are an ‘elite Dalit’ and robbing poor Dalits of a chance to progress.” (The concept of ‘elite Dalit’ only exists in the minds of savarnas. All Dalits, irrespective of education or wealth, face caste discrimination, only the nature or its extent may vary.)
15. “You have escaped caste as you are living abroad now.” (Caste identity doesn’t stop at the airport.)
16. “Why do Dalits make so much fuss over Ambedkar Jayanti?” (Why does it bother you if we do?)
17. “Dalits have failed Ambedkar and Ambedkar was a Brahmin.” (So, do you want to blame the victim? When Dalits were never in a position to make rules and regulations, how could they have failed Ambedkar?)
18. “Why do you need a separate history? There is no savarna history month, then why do you need a Dalit history month? (As if, Dalit history finds a place in Indian history books.)
19. “All lives matter, not only Dalit lives.” (Indeed, all lives matter, which is why there should be outrage when Dalits are denied their rights. But when you say it to remind Dalits to stop complaining and shut up, it is problematic.)
20. “Get over caste discrimination, it is a thing of the past.” (Caste discrimination exists; one just needs to open his/her eyes and ears and understand the pain of Dalits.)
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21. “Mayawati is using Dalits for gains.” (No, she has done more for Dalits than any other current leader. It’s not about what she can do for Dalits, but what Dalits can do for themselves while she is around.)
22. “My family is very liberal, and we have hired a Dalit maid to help her family.” (Why don’t you become a bit more liberal and try to hire an upper caste domestic worker?)
23. “Why do you bring caste into all discussions?” (Because caste matters and most social ills in India are a result of the caste system.)
24. An all-time favourite of so-called upper castes: “Reservation has ruined India.” (Reservation is a constitutional right. You get rid of caste and we will work together to get rid of reservation.)
25. “Why do Dalits get angry so often? Why are Dalits so violent?” (This can be heard every time Dalits protest against an issue/atrocity. The media reports these protests with headlines like “angry Dalits…”. Yes, we are angry at the system that denies equal rights.)
26. “I do not have upper caste privileges.” (If you say so, better think again.)
27. “Talking about casteism all the time makes you the biggest casteist.” (Caste will not disappear automatically. You need to talk about it and make it a part of public debates and discussions. Do you want to kill the messenger who tries to initiate a discussion on caste?)
28. “Stop talking about caste and it would end automatically.” (Dalits will stop talking about caste when the so-called upper castes will stop benefiting from it.)
The author is the founder editor of Velivada, a web publication, and runs the online web portal Ambedkar Caravan. Views are personal.
This is not an article, but the useless anger of a Dalit writer to savarns.Dont talk to us like this, dont do this, dont do that —But we can do what we want, we can burn buses, we can abuse gods, we can misuse reservation (the rich dalits themselve dont give opportunity to poor dalits when the matter of reservation comes)….this shouldnt even have been published here.
Good reply
I myself belong to ST category and dude tf is this article? It reminds me of those American libtard news portals who unnecessary bash white people and are appeasing so called “minority”, this shit ain’t doing no good to you the print stop being so arrogant!
The more Hindus being Casteists, the more Hinduism will suffer and more progress for Christianity and Islam…
There are many upper castes and lower castes. Caste is not such an issue among them. The moment they hear Dalit, all will change their attitude – lower castes and upper castes both.
Such attitude is better they stop. The so called Brahmins, if one can see history, are known for intelligence, not for compassion.
Intelligence can be misused and that’s what has happened in India.
A man named Mohit Jain says, “throw out the blanket of reservation and come out for real battle.”
The reservation will be in place until people like you do not get used to see Dalits in the positions of power, until the society doesn’t accept a Dalit wielding power through constitutional positions of power, until you don’t get used to see Dalits at policy making level.
True I have given answer to Mohit Jain. It’s the mentality of upper caste people which will never change. They love their country but not fellow Indian.
Over feeding of anything is not good for any individual or nation. This author is best example.
He is fed too much of Dalitism propaganda. No wonder why India is still developing country.
God bless the reservation run country!
Mohit Jain, Challenge accepted. Let’s decide place and time. As for C L Sharma, i have left dalit status long back.Are you willing to leave your upper caste status? It should not be practised at birth, marriage and other ceremonies. I know u can’t. Because u get milage because of it. I have left my dalit status, but upper caste people remind me time and again that I am dalit. That is how they want to keep their supremacy. Few dalit have challenged the supremacy, upper caste people are shaken to the core. If given a fair chance, social supremacy of upper caste will be removed permanently. It is precisely this that upper caste are fighting through all dubious means
Caste is something which is inherent in the mind, blood of Hindus, and is inherent in the practice and tradition of Hinduism.
Dalits always complain of caste discrimination.
There are two ways to end caste discrimination and caste based reservations.
1. GOVERNMENT : Govt. should provide every child a free education.
No need to issue any caste or any other certificate.
Govt. should provide every youth jobs.
What is the need of caste and other things if there are enough education and job facilities for everyone.
2. Dalits : Dalits should give up their caste and accept other religions like Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. So, there will be no discrimination based on caste. Very simple.
But no one does! Brainless Dalits! Brainless Casteists!
And Brainless Government!
Respected Mayawati Ji is against the Fishermen community of uttar pradesh;so plz don’t do fake politics.
What dalit dalit yaar.Even upper caste will declare no caste ,still lower caste people say yes to caste because of reservation. Haram ki khane ki aadat
This guy is an idiot, and mind you sir it is not because you arevsiding with Dalits or you are a Dalit. It is purely because you are an idiot. You are not offering solution to the problem rather escalating tensions between social groups in treachorous time.
Learn to voice ypur views properly before becoming a columnist and before you move on to conclusion let me tell you no Brahmin parent is telling their child to disrespect any Dalit( by finding them in class). Caste can die a silent death if people like you do not ignite the flame of casteism in econonically progressive society.
I am a Brahmjn girl married to Dalit boy, living in peace because both of us are earning our living. My husband is a self made man and so is his father. They have earned a respected place in society not because they abused and instigated hatred in society but because they strived for success and earned this respect.
I am not denying that discrimination is not practised anywhere in India but the shit your are giving is nothing but crap. Please stop this hate speech propogation
Whining pig. Newcomers please read ” BREAKING INDIA FORCES ” by RAJIV MALHOTRA
My friend Sharma, i have left my dalit status. But it is upper caste people who remind me that u are dalit. If it is not, upper caste position will be in danger
Mr Rajesh I too have left my caste status as it doesn’t pay anything to me. I live in Mumbai where nobody cares for anybody’s caste. I am from a remote village of UP and have worked hard to get my job in central government without complaining anybody. Whatever the system we have inherited, we have to survive with that maintaining the social fabric of the country and am not ready to leave my own rights for the sake of dalits beyond this point. I too need to live but without snatching anyone else’s rights and without having any ill will towards anybody. You people talks about the atrocities done by the ancient people and want to revenge on us for that. They may be wrong or right in their times, can’t be said. Castism is a cruel reality of Indian society that isn’t going to disappear in one day. Why to go far, you see among dalits itself those who have gained benefit of reservations are not ready to leave that for their own fellow brothers. I know some of my dalit friends whose parents got job under reserve qouta. They lead a better lifestyle. Their children who are my friends now studied in better institutions and got jobs again under reserve quota. Again their children also have got job under dalit quota. Needless to say that their children also will get the jobs under reserve quota because they are far far better in their studies than those who are still studying in village schools. Now my dalit friends have a higher status among dalits. They are marrying their children in dalit families having an equal or higher status. Try to realise my dear, it is not caste that matters but the economic and social status of the person to live a happy life. I have no problem in sitting, talking or eating with them because they are equal to me in all other respects other than caste that matters not at all now. They speak English with ease and their lifestyle is all urban. In the beginning I took a portion for rent in a house without asking what caste they belonged to. It was almost after a year or so they told while talking that they are sc. After that I stayed in the same house for more two years until I purchased my own flat. So friend leave grunting against upper castes, enjoy your rights, do your duties, give respect receive respect and live life happily.
Mohit Jain, Challenge accepted, decide place and time. One friend Sharma commented, i leave my dalit status.I have left it long back.My question was he should leave his upper caste status. No upper caste person has taken it.Are u worried. Time and again u are denying opportunity by various means
By that u are protecting ur upper caste status. It is this dalit are challenging. If given fair opportunity, upper caste hegemony will be the thing of the past
Author has expressed one sided and partial views. So called Dalits never wants to end caste based systems in India. They take their caste certificates printed with bold letters taking for benefits but don’t want that it should be pronounced. In today’s world economic status decides position of a person. But dalit leaders are talking nonsense of social backwardness. Politics is flourishing this garbage idea as such writer has expressed.
O so called writer !
Just give an example that man belonging to so called dalit caste have served nation like upper caste.
They are just criminal.
I am feeling near my locality.
C v raman was a Brahmin, man,.
Arybhatta was a Brahmin.
India is and will be known for its Brhminism.
And I challenge you if you have capacity than throw out blanket of reservation and come to real battle to fight with Brahmin.
You will know how deep are you in water.
Poor and rich are found in every caste but dalit are poor mentally.
There is no teatment for them unfortunately.
That is why they are called dali.
Your arrogance shows why this article was written in first place. Obviously, you cannot find a intellect in echelons of society because 4% of so called brahmins occupy 96% of key post not juz bcos they are intellectual bcos they are biased and was there never an oppurtunity provided to oppressed people compete at a higher level.
I had an oppurtunity to meet a old beggar woman of mother’s age at Bhopal Junction, she introduced herself after getting money as “mein Tiwari hun”….but all i could pity is what her surname could mean when she is stranded in streets, her samaj could not help. But still she boasts of her surname. All I could only say is “Mein Tiwari nahi hun”. That ends about our society and system.
I strongly suggest you and other perverts with similar mind set to watch out Article 15 or Aarakshan. May God give you enough strength to use brain in 1500cc skull.
All you Brahmins racists born from prostitution done by Rishis with apsarasas but Dalits born to their parents so Dalits never become like you which a product of prostitution
Yes, they inherited the superior genes of the the Rishis and the demigoddesses called apsaras, and it was not prostitution, it was lovemaking u bigot. Who are u calling racist u from some other country. The weak will always fear the strong. Just like the Uchihas are the most feared clan, because they are so strong. The jokes on u the Rishis got to bang demigoddesses, u are butthurt mate.
Dalits have been serving the country and are doing so.
Reservation is there because, you people are ruling and you people are not known for honesty.
You people have been known for discrimination, prejudices, favoritism. Not just that you people have taken away livelihood of Dalits for millennia.
If Dalits are given equal opportunity and resources, they can excel in any field.
Brahmins are not supreme in education and intelligence. It is not property.
Brahmins were short of their intelligence and knowledge to write Constitution of India
Brahmins ruled others not by giving everyone their due respect and right. But by taking away others freedom and livelihood. They used others as physical forces and used shastras as mental forces to stop Dalits from making progress.
What if Shudras had used Kshatriyas and Vaishyas to kill Brahmins and stopped them from making any progress?
Imagine that three people from various castes attack and torture for being born in a particular caste? Painful, right? What if happen in real?
For some days live as a Dalit in an unknown place, just yet will realize that how bad and Brainless you people are.
Yes n people who are looting n making crores of scams and running out of country are also Brahmins.
I really appreciate author’s view ..yes it prevails in our whole society .but upper caste always deny this bcoz how they will servants and weak people to satisfying their sextual desire.they can marriage dalit girl without any hesitation and if upper caste girl marry a dalit boy it is great concerned issue of false pride ..even i also seen other backward class also prejudice castesim..but definitely somewhere face of castism has been changed it is know jealousy more than discrimination
Ok
So called dalit should stop abusing so called upper caste too
The article exudes negativity profuselly. This is only blocking amalgamation. Political dalitism should be replaced by positive dalitism. One can ride the political ladder chanting ” tilak taraju aur talwar,inko Maro joote chaar” and suggest construction of a toilet on Ramjanm bhoomi .No action is possible against these people. However, you are doomed if you say something which is not palatable to these opportunists. Even if you dont actually say, you will be arrested immediately without even preliminary enquiry. All parties bent backwards to restore this provision , like in Shah Bano case,after the Supreme Court found it against the principles of natural justice.So, to end one oppression , you will start another. Discrimination on the basis of caste is a social problem and mustl be dealt with as such with the backing of law enforcing machinery( laws are already there. They need to be applied to the opposite side as well.) The cake of reservations is usurped by the rich and never reach the needy.
We cannot be equal as dalits cannot match nepotism and discrimination practiced by others. All power and wealth are with others. All key players are other than dalits, still we fail to check corruption. If corruption of all kind is checked, no reservations is required. Reservation is just a small tool to counter corruption of others in public life.
The writer has shown his arrogance in the very beginning of the article by proclaiming that Dalits are not there to make the upper castes comfortable. What he thinks then that upper castes are here to make Dalits comfortable. If this is the attitude, how can we expect equality and harmony in the society.
In my childhood almost 50 or so years back in my village nobody knew what a dalit is. Though they were there but lived in harmony with upper caste people. What they were supposed to do was to wish the upper caste and they were more than pleased by this much from the Dalits that too not everyone only elderly ones. On some occasions Dalits used to wish my elders and if I was present there, they used to give the same treatment for me too but I always felt uncomfortable when an elderly person of dalit community used to wish me. I used to resist but there answer always was you are a Brahman and all Brahmans are respectable for us irrespective of age and other things though I was never convinced by their argument. These dalits never confronted with the upper caste people as they used to get permanent or seasonal jobs in the homes or fields of upper caste people mostly thakurs. They never aspired that upper caste people should eat with them or marry their daughters with dalit boys.
But now you are directly asking the upper caste people to marry their daughters and sons to the dalit boys and girls. How is it possible when upper castes search a match for their children in their own castes too on the basis of personal qualities, income, social status of the family and many other things in quest for compatibility. Where educated and working youths are finding this compatibility between them they are daring to marry each other themselves without caste consideration. Societal changes happen in a gradual process. Haste makes waste. Those who are in hurry today will create only conflicts among the various classes of the society that will result in clashes between people and unrest in the country.
I have no qualms about reservation. It could continue for ever even it is marginalizing merit. Only free ships and concessions it entiles should be restricted to poor which could still be discriminated upon. And also stop adding dominant castes which has no history of discrimination at all.
Unfortunately your comments reiterate what most people are saying in the comments section. It is important that first and foremost you believe you are equal. This means competing for everything on merit and not reservation.
Caste based reservation is perceived as lack of merit. No one denies that there are more underprivileged people in certain communities. However, our approach to resolving the problem needs to change. Eg. Admission into educational institutions should be based on a system where marks are converted into points and additional points are given to those coming from under previleged background eg.Children from Government school get additional points, school in taluka, village remote area gets more points compared to city or metro, occupation of parents eg. Grade 1,2 3 or 4 employees get more points compared to private employment etc. Thus, student from underprivileged background will get higher ‘merit’ than a similar student coming from privileged background. It will simultaneously remove caste bias. Entry position in employment should be based on exams with additional weightage as mentioned above. Thereafter, everything should be with equal competition. This will ensure that we move away from a caste based society and genuinely eligible candidates avail benefits.
To eliminate caste from society, we need to stop addressing problems at caste level and address it at socio economic level. A person can hope to come out of poverty, but can never come out of caste, if all benefits are caste based.
First of stop all these nonsense. Everybody yes everybody wants reservation or don’t want to be discriminated on the basis of caste , color ,creed and race. But no one is talking about the solution everyone here and there are talking about the problem . You being a reporter or writer should bring the solution. If u don’t have then I will give that is education. Not higher education but the primary education which a lot of Indians miss irrespective of their caste and religion. The budget didn’t focus on primary education these wasn’t bring into light by any but in budget there was nothing for dalits. Are u special class of Indian society, no you aren’t. Start talking about the primary education just like kejriwal did in delhi. And she the after effect. This mighty country won’t need any reservation and will never face any discrimination. Please focus on primary education.
What you expect, this country of billion people ,should do to satisfy ur tantrum ….. Baakio Ko maar de n dalit k liye chhod de iss desh ko…rather than demanding just go and do the real work for Dalits… You guys only scream at social media and will do nothing
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Article is narrating ground realty. Will not be understood until wearing a shoe what others have been wearing for centuries. People just declared them self dalits use surnames of dalits. Open a chaat bhandhar. Even change the name of well know chaat wala or tikki wala in your area to Chamar chaat bhandhar and see the affect on business. That’s why all dalits sales their chaat in the name of standard or any other name. However we pandey, Gupta chaat bhandhar everywhere.
Talking about social problems must be promote . Uplifting of any exploied community is not bad either it is by reservation or any source
we all unitely will make one community one nation with social justice.all will have relationship of marriage and eating together by finishing social evils .Gajnvi defeated Indian kings because we all were divided among caste.
Perennial whiners. Get rid of your pathetic victim complex and quit blaming others for your incompetence and ineptitude
Dalit NO NOs???? Let’s start with the following stereotypes before bringing your Dalit list in. It’s called the North South list.
1. Arey Aap tho Saaauth ke dikhte nahin ho??? Worse they think it’s a compliment.
2. All South Indians are not Madraasi. You speak Hindi and not Hind right??? So It’s not Karnatak it’s Karnataka. Not Keral it’s Kerala. Not Taaamilnadu it’s Tamil Nadu and it’s not Theeilgoo language…it’s pronounced Thelugu.
3. Most of Our night clubs DONT play bhangra Punjabi. We play Western. Bollywood is not the standard for us.
4. Ram Ram and Jai Sri Ram won’t work here. A crucial part of that story happened here in South… So your UP narrative of Tulasidas got it all wrong. We do not burn Raavana. We venerate him as well.
6. Yes we are anglically good…. So Hinglish is uncool… We Toh pakka don’t like it haan.
7. Saambhar is a kind of deer … It’s Saambaar. It’s Not Dossaa (he was a terrorist)… Its Dhose or Dhosai.
8. Finally… Our traditional attire is not Lungi… It’s Dhothi or Veshti or Panche or Munde depending on which region… Fig it out. So the next time you play Lungi Dance to impress us… We can kick the shit out of you.
Sort the above. Dalit comes after
You got it right. Discrimination starts right there. And we have enough dalits in south.
Caste system is a bane for the country, introduced by British system to divide the society. British played this effectively, again dividing the country on religion line. A country can progress with upliftment of poor, irrespective of caste or religion or sectoral differences. The more you ask caste status, the more you discriminate them. Rich dalit like Mayavati or Mulayam or Lalu doesn’t deserve to be in the list of quotas. What Modi is doing is the right thing. Please understand the country’s President is dalit and PM, you know is not from upper elite. How did they make it to top? They did not crib on caste politics like Maya or Mulayam. Their motto is Sabka saath, sabka vilas, sabka vishwas. All other parties talked about protecting their own groups to get votes and they failed miserably.
Caste supremacy is a criminal offence. That is exactly why you should be proscecuted
Why doesn’t discrimination stop at the airport? When you go abroad, your success is dependent on your hard work. You do face discrimination as a brown person, but not as a dalit.
You do. Volumes have been written about caste discrimination among NRIs. If only one would care to read. The insensitive comments here simply support each point the author is making.
Stop reservations on basis of caste then caste system will fall automatically
…… reservations on basis of caste is making upper caste more and more angrier…
No. 17 Ambedkar was a Brahmin? Is this a typing mistake?
So, are you really serious about this article. You don’t need to be, the reality is something else. He is putting nonsense points. He once supported reservation, and in another point, he said it doesn’t decrease discrimination. If it doesn’t, It must be abolished, isn’t it?
End caste, reservation will go automatically. My friends from upper caste don’t want to follow it . Reservation is the effect, caste is cause.
Every point mentioned in the article is true. I have upper caste friends, who malign Dalit in private conversations, including me. With whom should I live?
Every upper caste friend who has commented should leave their and their children caste from today itself. Let’s see they follow it.
Are you going to leave your dalit status today?
^ Today on things no one has EVER said or even cared enough about to consider saying.
If your target demographic is of upper caste panchayat leaders in Haryana, UP, Bihar, Rajasthan etc then it would make more sense writing articles in local, vernacular press than on an already liberal news portal (read mostly by educated young Indians) while sipping your Starbucks and typing away on your MacBook.
The author forgets about current President of India Ram Nath Kovind, supported by RSS. When you don’t want to change your own mentality, others won’t help. Reservation was not meant to create separate identity, even Baba Sahab had not allowed it, had he known this kind of elite thinking of the individual who got benefits of reservation and continue to play victim card to reap from the fake narrative in today’s context. Reservation was meant for 10 years and now it has become a tool for discrimination and hypocrisy. You are free to use any surname, but you have no authority to say others to follow your dictates. Reservation is constitutional rights but Constitution is not static. It must change with time. Don’t play victim cards. It has been enough now. By the way there are people from upper caste who also die during cleaning up of gutters. So there should be same outrage when they die too because every human lives is important. Learn to respect others, you will get respect too.
The author has lazily plagiarized a BuzzFeed article and replaced the word black with ‘dalit’.. Shameful that media is using a narrative to further their political agenda.
Caste exists until the lower caste people dissappear or they go back to the times of untouchability. Wherever we dalits go, there is always a discrimination. If someone of lower caste get promoted to a higher lever at work places, upper caste people often say he or she is reserved. Upper caste people say reservations should be stopped. If it is so growth of lower caste people will also be stopped. I strongly feel Slowly we will be denied right to education also. Recenctly one person in his meeting said he will eat in dalits home.the question here is dalits are not humans or are they have come from some planet of untouchability. Higher caste people see dalits very low and they are persons who are against reservations. Infact reservations protect our rights. Anyways in private firms no growth and development for us. Reservations can be stopped when higher caste people marry lower caste people and there by making all people equal. Will this happen? Lower caste are always victims.
Unfortunately your comments reiterate what most people are saying in the comments section. It is important that first and foremost you believe you are equal. This means competing for everything on merit and not reservation.
Caste based reservation is perceived as lack of merit. No one denies that there are more underprivileged people in certain communities. However, our approach to resolving the problem needs to change. Eg. Admission into educational institutions should be based on a system where marks are converted into points and additional points are given to those coming from under previleged background eg.Children from Government school get additional points, school in taluka, village remote area gets more points compared to city or metro, occupation of parents eg. Grade 1,2 3 or 4 employees get more points compared to private employment etc. Thus, student from underprivileged background will get higher ‘merit’ than a similar student coming from privileged background. It will simultaneously remove caste bias. Entry position in employment should be based on exams with additional weightage as mentioned above. Thereafter, everything should be with equal competition. This will ensure that we move away from a caste based society and genuinely eligible candidates avail benefits.
To eliminate caste from society, we need to stop addressing problems at caste level and address it at socio economic level. A person can hope to come out of poverty, but can never come out of caste, if all benefits are caste based.
Just one simple question among all these heavy things. What about discrimination in dalits it self ? There is a lot of discrimination in these so called lower caste. Among them, they too consider some of them superior to others !
What would you say dear writer about this ??
Whatever is written will only be in print media. The reality is entirely different which starts with our Government itself. All government application for jobs or for joining schools/colleges mentions about castes. Unless it is stopped by the government castes will thrive for many more centuries in our country. Really sad.
Quite a few of the comments which the author deems objectionable can also be taken in a positive light if the author or the community, in general, so desires. Eg. Not looking Dalit, being acknowledged as smart or intelligent or being a friend of a person of some other caste is a sign of development, upward mobility and the fact that at least some people of the community have managed to lift themselves out of the oppressed category of people. It should be acknowledged that the whole purpose of the constitutional rights or previleges given to the community were to integrate them into the ‘mainstream’. When a person whether upper caste or any other caste seeks to constantly reiterate the differences even when others are trying to show how similar all are, it is not helping the cause. While ‘upper castes’ needs to be more sensitive to the needs of the other classes, those in the repressed classes who have managed to get themselves into a better position, need to voluntarily abandoned their caste identity and merge with the mainstream. It must be remembered that the objective of reservation was upliftment and integration of the oppressed classes, not the build-up of their separate identity.
RamNath Kovind is President and made by RSS…so ur view that RSS is dangerous is ur fake and irrational. If Mayavati want to become PM..then there is democracy and constitution…She had been CM in past and made by savaran…even Mishras…
If so detail of discrimination due to caste in Hindu by Swaran…Then what is going in Pakistan…Joginder Nath Mandel left Pakistan due to persecution of Dalits…and now Dalits fleeding Pak…ask them to not come here as here is discrimination against Dalits…Muslim Barbers stopped to cut hairs of Dalits…due to that how can they use instruments used to hair cut a dalits…for hair cut of Muslims….A Dalit killed to marry a Muslim Girl…No outrage…this selectivity discredit ur views
SIR with all due respect you are becoming the very thing u cease to destroy u r saying that we should not descriminate but then u r discriminating simultaneously by saying “reservation is a tool to stop discrimination” i dont know about the past intentions but at present reservation is the tool which is there to give a person s economic sound position in a hypocrite society so as we all think education and money can help overcome from these stereotypes and for a comment in which u have said that if a person who belongs to a specific category and now have wealth and status but due to a horrid past still believes that reservation is still his to have and not of the person who belongs to the same category who has significantly less resources to fight for what that first person already has then HOW ON EARTH YOU CAN THINK OF A EQUAL SOCIETY when we “SO CALLED SAME CASTES PEOPLE” cannot help the SO CALLED SAME CASTE persons…
Point no. 12 is exactly why reservation is pointless. It’s a social evil not a money or job based thing. Rich or poor Dalits get discriminated irrespective of their status so giving a reservation to rich Dalits is just pointless. I’d like the govt to only target the poor section of the Dalits because hey Reservation is not an answer for Discrimination it is an answer for Oppression. The discrimination part shall be overcome only when we think like a global culture and that can only come with education.
Please MAKE A LAW so that while issuing BIRTH CERTIFICATE the CASTE NAMES should not be added to their names. INDIA is not devoloping because of this caste issue.
It won’t happen, not in the foreseeable future of next 200/300 years.
The whole plea from Sakshi Mishra was derailed saying that her father who was hunting them down was ‘victim’ in the last evening’s debate on TV 18 with Bhupendra choubey.
That was classic distraction from the main issue that is “honour” killing when the boy is dalit to an issue where daughter is defaming her father.
Were those participants on the debate so ignorant of the various killings that are happening every other day in India? “Thanks “to technology now we do have CCTV footages of guys being chopped of beside their pregnant wife.
We are a joke here talking about development, progress etc etc it’s all a sham. We are so castiest beneath.
Completely illogical and blind views of author there is nothing any seriousness in The article
Ok..
You are very smart . For taking benefits you people chant that we are Dalits but when others ask Dalit why do you feel shame ?
Human history is full of examples of discrimination ; and it is not a coincidence the discriminated is blamed for his misfortune ( he is not meritworhty and plays the victim) The indian upper caste is a strange creature in this respect , he plays victim to the whites and erstwhile muslim conquerors but does not mind being the victimiser to his own brethren . Nowadays you have the brahmins complaining of being the new ‘jews’.
This depressingly is not quite justice , there will be justice in India the day you have someone like Mayawati as the PM elected by the Brahmins , interestingly it has already happened in USA , when will it happen in India .
i dont want to offend u but have u ever seen mayawati talking about other than that some categories are opressing some other while in case of USA have u ever seen obama blmaing whites for what was done in past to black over a national television so that hate can prisper in the hearts of thise who tend to refrain from these socio instigating thibgs…
Our country supreme our president is a dalit
, mayawati became c.m of up twice can’t deny the fact that upper caste people support ed her what else you want…….
No one talks like that to dalit. As far as I know. I am a brahmin and had half a dozen dalit friends from childhood, played and ate together, that was never a case. My parents always taught me to respect.
It seems that some of our Savarna friends have objection on this article. It’s exact description of our society. Dalits are still facing the problem of descrimination every where. They might have escalated to higher position but some of the so called savarana mindset people don’t forget their caste. You can see many examples of descrimination.
Because blind haters of savarnas like you exist