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What about Dalit priest at Ayodhya Ram Mandir? Even Communist intellectuals won’t demand it

It is being said that the Ram Mandir will be more significant than the Vatican of Rome and the Mecca of Saudi Arabia. But will it change the status of Dalits and Shudras?

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The Ram Mandir bhoomi pujan in Ayodhya Wednesday was attended by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, and governor Anandiben Patel. Besides being the only woman on the stage, Patel was also the only Shudra present at the ceremony. Among the priests who performed the bhoomi pujan ritual, there was not a single Shudra — not even from Yadav, Jat, or Kurmi communities of UP, let alone from one of the Other Backward Classes and Dalits.

We can only predict this, since we do not know the name of all the priests who participated in the ritual — but Shudras, historically and even now, have not been given a spiritual right to Hinduism or trained in Hindu theological schools and colleges.

The construction of this upcoming Ram Mandir in Ayodhya would not have been possible, and the RSS-BJP would not have achieved their goal, if not for the participation of Shudras in Babri-Masjid demolition in 1992 and the subsequent BJP government formation in 1999, 2014 and 2019. It is Shudras and Dalits who are engaged in food production work in these hard Covid-19 times for the survival of all, including the temple system, but their work is not accepted as spiritually respectful and hence they do not get the right priesthood, even though they are considered as Hindus. This discrimination is purely due to caste. Around Ayodhya and elsewhere in UP, even the temple maintenance, food and resources come from the labour of Shudras and Dalits. The RSS-BJP defines all of them as Hindus. But they do not have the spiritual right to become a priest at the Ram Mandir and study in Sanskrit gurukuls even in the 21st century.

Ramayana, too, mentions the Varna dharma theory and lists the four caste categories — Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra. Ram himself is known as a Kshatriya king; his guru Vasishtha as a Brahmin.

We do not know what the status of the Vaishyas was during the time of Ramayana. Most probably, they would have been cattle owners and grazers, while Shudras were ‘slaves’ assigned different tasks of production and were in service of the Dwija castes. At the time, there was no notion of one religion called Hinduism under which all four caste groups were clubbed together.

Even if we leave aside all other historical issues and opinions of modern writers, the RSS-BJP consider Hinduism as one religion, which includes all Shudras and Dalits. But what about their spiritual rights? If Ram belongs to all and if we have to fulfil, as PM Modi said, the dream of Mohandas Gandhi to bring about a so-called “Ram Rajya” in India, the inclusion of Shudras and Dalits is a must. When they were defined as Hindu and mobilised into what they called the ‘Ram temple movement’, caste-based assignment of duties in temples should have been abolished too, at least theoretically.


Also read: A Dalit laid first brick for Ram Mandir. Now, Modi must appoint a Dalit woman as its priest


Denial of spiritual inclusion

Did the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) ask for this spiritual inclusiveness? PM Modi, in his bhoomi pujan speech, said Ram was a believer in total equality and can be a source of modern development. His re-interpretation of Ram as a divine force and developmentalist is positive. In fact, Modi said Ram accepts both man and woman as equal. This argument goes against the theory of respecting parampara (tradition) that RSS ideologues have been propounding ever since the organisation was founded in 1925. The RSS has never talked about gender and caste equality.

But the RSS-BJP aren’t the only ones to be blamed. The Congress intellectuals, too, never allowed a discourse around equal spiritual rights on the pretext that they believe in secularism and hence do not go into religious affairs and that such issues must be left to the religious organisations. They, therefore, did not do anything to abolish caste in Hinduism and also in civil society when they were in power.

The Communist intellectuals also do not raise such questions under a false theory that they do not believe in religion, and believe in atheism. This again is a false argument to wash hands off the issues of caste and religious inequality since both West Bengal and Kerala, where they were in power for a long time, saw many of their leaders and cadres actively participate in Hindu religious activities. They have shut their eyes to the two major issues of India — caste and religion.


Also read: Large number of Dalit-OBC on Kanwar Yatra isn’t a sign of Hinduism’s inclusivity. Here’s why


Denial of English education

These questions are passed off in the intellectual and party organisations because the national-level discourse is conducted by people largely belonging to five communities — Brahmin, Bania, Kshatriya, Kayastha and Khatri.

Earlier, there was a strong Sanskrit-educated force among these five communities but now there is a far more English-educated intellectual force among them. The vernacular voice in national and mainstream media on the topic of religion is largely invisible. Unless the debate is intensified at the national level, every ruling party, including the BJP, can take the Shudras and Dalits for granted.

Another problem is the absence of English-speaking intellectuals from Shudra communities, including Jats, Yadavs, Gujjars, Patels, even though there are a number of regional political leaders who want to manage votes and rule their states. They do not have a transformative philosophical and ideological agenda. This is a major deterrent because they are unable to impress or cater to the urban, English-speaking audience.

The RSS-BJP raise the issue of inequalities within Muslim society, particularly gender inequality, on all platforms. But Muslim intellectuals lack this courage to raise caste and other inequalities inherent in Hinduism.

Shudras today do not have the intellectual power because they have been historically denied education, which Brahmins and other Dwija castes held as their prerogative.  They also did not acquire literary status when Persian and Urdu were dominant languages. They were kept engaged in production and services, and continue to be a resigned force when it comes to becoming modern intellectuals. They obeyed the priestly Brahmins earlier and now follow whatever RSS-BJP tell them today without asking for equal rights. This is a tragic status of a major productive community, which feeds the nation with its labour power.


Also read: Dalits have a special place in the new Hindutva matrix. Ram Mandir is proof of that


Ram Mandir and equality

Ram Mandir is different from other Hindu temples. It is a temple that is being projected as historical and there is talk that it will become more significant than the Vatican of Rome and the Mecca of Saudi Arabia. According to Home Minister Amit Shah, the bhoomi pujan in Ayodhya is the start of “a new yuga (era)” in 2020.

PM Modi has said that the figure of Ram at the upcoming Mandir will reflect justice more than any other divine figure in the world. If that is what this temple stands for, what about abolishing caste and gender inequalities in the spiritual and religious system that Ram represents? Why is there a total silence on caste inequality, particularly the representation of Shudra in the core team of priests who work at temples? It is the priests who decide what shloka should be recited and what etiquette should be followed inside the temple premises. Priesthood is an important position within religion and for attaining the status of spiritual command.

Will the RSS-BJP assure Shudras and Dalits that there will be Hindu theological school and college in Ayodhya where admission will not be based on caste but religious background alone?

The problem is that the mainstream media in India won’t allow this debate.  The fact that most media organisations are run by members of mainly Dwija castes makes it all the more difficult for such a debate. They are also confident that there will not be a movement in India like #Shudra/DalitLivesMatter along the lines of #BlackLivesMatter.

To conduct a major movement peacefully at the national level, the Shudra/Dalit communities need a large number of highly modern, English-educated intellectuals who can take their space in today’s media. But where will they come from?

The author is a political theorist, social activist and author. Views are personal. 

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157 COMMENTS

    • They can vote for BJP but they are aspiring for a fair share of the cake, which is not permissible.

      Modi said the toilet cleaner should do his job with great dedication according to his dharma. The dharma will protect those who protect the dharma.

      • Modi said no such thing – FAKE NEWS!

        Please spread your propaganda about Modi elsewhere. RSS and BJP dont see caste or even religion .Even Kashmiri Muslims are BJP members. And all castes are meaningless for BJP. Modi said there are only two castes – Rich and Poor.

    • The tone of your question proves your Brahmanism. Ambedkar asked the question : ‘Are the Dalits Hindus ?’

      You admit that there is a Hindu Hierarchy. The Dalits cannot question the hierarchy. They should be Hindu forcibly and accept you as their head.

  1. Brahmin, Bania, Kshatriya, Kayastha and Khatri, equating 5 is stupidity. Kshatriya can’t be be clubbed with the others, total moron piece.

  2. Are Dalits such fools who don’t understand the way the r treated. They should bycot the rulers then they they will be respected.

    • Many Dalits can be bought for a few rupees and they will be foot soldiers for Hindutva. The Sanghis hire them, send them on trains, and burn them.

      The formula of Hindutva is : the Brahmin plots, the bania finances and the sudra is the street fighter.

      Occasionally, they find a sudra like Shiva Bhonsle or Modi because they fight non-Muslims and do not question the caste system, and even elevate them. Thus, three Brahmins came from Banaras to promote Shiva to Kshatryia for his fight against Aurangazeb.

      But the basic structure of Hinduism will not change. A caste free Hinduism is not possible. Caste is the only tenet of Hinduism.

  3. The print news is totally bias toward hindus…
    You will never find resing questions against muslim religion……….

    • Why should there be questions against non-Hindus when Hindus are running the country and claiming it is a Hindu country ?

  4. In India there are umpteen number of caste groups each having their own God or Goddess, and their distinctive ways of worship. That is why even today, in a particular area, where people of different castes live, we find different temples built for different God’s and Goddesses, by different castes and conduct prayers according to their custom.

    The author being an educated person belonging to Sheep raring community, well understands that RSS and BJP are political bodies in nature. Ram Mandir is one of their political project aimed at acquiring political power in the country. Rightly or wrongly the sudra’s consisting various labour groups helped the RSS and BJP in executing their project successfully.

    The writer should understand that being a Hindu is different from being an administrator of a Hindu Temple administered based on Vedic principles.

  5. Now Prof. Ilaih propagates accommodative reservation strategy as victimization card. What happened to all disregards for RAM all these years Prof.? May some sense prevail.
    If a Pandit deserves to be there, he/she would be there, no matter where he/she comes from.

    • By a strange coincidence, only a Pandit is deserving of all posts in India.

      Could it be because they reserved education to themselves and actively barred others from it ?

  6. Either we can go with the scripts purely as written and follow them or we can choose new way of spirituality. If we choose the second way there is no problem in creating new God as per new scenerio of world who permits us everything according to the situations prevailing in world and new society. And if we go with the Rama the incarnation of God 1000s years ago, we should keep its essence alive. The varna vyavastha was made just to create system where every one know his work and knowledge transfers smoothly. It is bad nature of humans that he devides the work in classes and designate them as lower middle or upper. We should respect each profession, each work. Brahmins were permitted to live life only by begging but still they were admired at that time just due to knowledge. And in present world you can see how we look at beggers…..durty.. smelling…. disturbing…. nonsense…. thieves…

    In this new world we are also creating classes based on money….upper, middle and lower..

    We are not creating Ram Rajya where even the person doing work of cobbler was happy. In this new world we are valuing ? money not the happiness.

    No one should be the owner of society based on money, cast, colour or race but everyone should know that they are responsible towards happyness of society. One should not be happy if his neighbours are in problem. That is Ram Rajya
    Where the King should feel like servant and servant like King while executing their responsibilities.

    Jai shree Ram

    • Thank you for your pretentious exposition.

      In the current Ram Rajya, our king wears a new suit everyday, and has bought himself a Boeing for foreign travels. His servants had to walk 500 kms. and die on the road.

  7. It’s very sick mentality to see every person by his caste. You don’t have the respect to even governor and you recognize him by not his constitutional position but by his/her caste. You support England but even there, people have caste surnames such as Smith, Cook, butcher etc. Even there only single family controls the entire country. Today even US faces racism and Casteism. Every other country in the world has its own issues. But majority have journalists with common sense unlike India

  8. Sometimes PEOPLE who have converted to other religions are not trusted, as a person who has betrayed his earlier religion would do the same again. HENCE this converted to prove their loyalty to the new religion do much bad mouthing of the previous religion they followed.

    We have seen in EUROPE AND USA . HOW PEOPLE ARE STILL BEING ENSLAVED AND EXTREME HATE TOWARDS DARK SKINNED PEOPLE by neo Nazi gangs even though they follow the same religion. BLACK LIFE MATTERS MOVEMENT is a case in point.

  9. Thw whole article is shit, someone can tell the print journalist that reservation enabled many dalits and shudra to become IAS Drs and Engineers while obtaining less than half of their counterpart Brahmins, or Rajputs

  10. What kind of nonsense journalism is this …. Do you know how many cast and Creed exist in India …you want all of them to be invited ??? Are you crazy or playing too smart ???

    Your journalism is rotten and based on the colonial principle of “devide and rule”. Please stop spreading hatred. We want peace and love not hatred.

  11. Wow so u based an entire opinion on media without any proof of who the priests were ..u said that in the second para of your article…which is just meant to incite hatred towards one another. No one is denying the atrocities against the shudra and dalit but today a right thing was done by including a dalit women priest and more such steps will be taken to ensure that equality prevails. But to discard what was done right and just bicker about the past will never heal the wounds.

  12. How low can this “Print editors ” think??
    Earlier there was question of worshipping in temples..now construction of temples also need to have a person from each caste, sub caste and tribes!
    This is in the head of print not new india anymore.
    May god bless you.

  13. The author of the article is either a fool or a person with an agenda. Modi himself is from the OBC category. And why should a person be involved just because he is a dalit? Has govt announced reservation system to decide what will be percentage of various castes and communities to be involved in the temple?

    • Modi has never taken action to demand end of the caste system. The upper castes use him to get their job done and for that they give him some status.

    • P. NATH , YOU DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THE AUTHOR , INDEED. HE IS TALKING ABOUT EQUALITY. THERE IS NO RESERVATION SYSTEM IN ADMINISTERING THE TEMPLES. BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE COMMUNITY DOING IT FOR CENTURIES. IF THERE IS EQULAITY IN HINDUISM , ACCORDING TO YOU , THEN DEFINITELY AND DALIT MAN OR WOMAN , SHOULD GO TO HINDU THEOLOGICAL SCHOOL AND GET EDUCATION TO BECOME A PRIEST AND BE A PRIEST OF BIG HINDU TEMPLES.

    • Anywhere in India, when a Dalit priest goes to the Tehsildar office to get a caste certificate, what do you think is the certificate the Tehsildar will issue him? Is the Dalit priest’s caste on the Government issued certificate based on his birth or based on the work he is performing?

      Will a Brahmin man (by birth) come forward eagerly to marry a Dalit priest’s daughter? Will a Dalit priest’s son be able to easily marry a Brahmin girl? Will marrying a Brahmin require the Dalit priest’s son or daughter to demonstrate proficiency in the Vedic scriptures, Vedic customs and practices in depth?

  14. Show some proper data dude , you keep saying shudras are discriminated , just quote instances or statistics or numbers to support your statements , I don’t think it is written anywhere that a shudra cannot become a priest

    • This question is irrelevant.
      There is no casteism in Christianity.
      There is no need for a Dalit to aspire to become a Pope because in that religion’s preaching all people have an equal status before God.

  15. The few educated dalits have a huge burden on them to transform their community. Ambedkar’s legacy has to be carried on. It is futile to think others would spring to rescue. Post independent india has seen huge number of schemes for socio-economic improvisation of all communities. Though in practice, the implementation may not be half of what was intended. There are enough mechanisms for the community leaders to improvise their situation. More than anything, technology should aid the upliftment of the labour dependent section of society.

  16. Mohan Bhagwat Ji, can you take up this issue on top priority so that even non Brahmins including Sudras, if deserving and qualified can attain priesthood in temples.

    • Impossible. He will say no qualifird Dalits could be found. That his how upper caste fellows is to handle reservation before Mandal – just say no suitable Dalit could be found and then fill the place with their people.

  17. Bhagwat Ji, can we address this issue in top priority enabling any deserving student to attain priesthood in temples irrespective of caste.

  18. We dont need any british title so Called “Dalit” why dalit only found in India , if they go other country they never call dalit, fraud Dalit history written by flat earth cult white invader . Now Brahman is who know about God Brahma , who know about ultimate reality of universe ,like all quantum scientist , like Nikola tesla , all sage like adi sankracharya , it is quality of human being not govt. Certificate thats why Brahman always be Brahman in all over world but Dalit only found inside India , any human being can be priest having valid quality to be so .
    All fraud like aryan invasion fraud chara cter like Radha , all dasa character, king ashoka , eklavya and fraud history manipulated by evil white invaders as they create Jesus which never born ,never exist.
    In the 1830s  Thomas Macaulay was appointed Governor General of the Indian provinces won by the East India Company. Macaulay was the son of a Presbyterian minister and his great ambition was to convert India to a Christian country. However, he realized that the Vedas were considered very sacred by all Hindus. Also the Brahmans, who preserved the Vedas, commanded a great respect. Yet he pioneered the English system of education in India with a hope that the effect of his new education system would be “prodigious” (his term).

  19. This article have no meaning whoever written this article don’t know anything about lord Ram yet Lord ram does not believe in discrimination on caste basis but don’t forget lord Ram was a strong believer that only Brahmin can be the priest no one else do puja and karamkand except Brahmin as we know that Lord ram born in a Kshatriya caste so he always respect Brahmins and he also given work different caste.

  20. We dont need any british title so Called “Dalit” why dalit only found in India , if they go other country they never call dalit, fraud Dalit history written by flat earth cult white invader . Now Brahman is who know about God Brahma , who know about ultimate reality of universe ,like all quantum scientist , like Nikola tesla , all sage like adi sankracharya , it is quality of human being not govt. Certificate thats why Brahman always be Brahman in all over world but Dalit only found inside India , any human being can be priest having valid quality to be so .
    All fraud like aryan invasion fraud chara cter like Radha , all dasa character, king ashoka , eklavya and fraud history manipulated by evil white invaders as they create Jesus which never born ,never exist.
    In the 1830s  Thomas Macaulay was appointed Governor General of the Indian provinces won by the East India Company. Macaulay was the son of a Presbyterian minister and his great ambition was to convert India to a Christian country. However, he realized that the Vedas were considered very sacred by all Hindus. Also the Brahmans, who preserved the Vedas, commanded a great respect. Yet he pioneered the English system of education in India with a hope that the effect of his new education system would be “prodigious” (his term).
    Macaulay said, “We must form a class of persons who may be interpreters between us and the millions whom we govern, a class of persons, Indian in blood and color but English in taste, in opinion, in mind and in intellect.”
    Fortunately for British and unfortunately for Indians ,the British continued to get such indian people Indian in blood and color but English in taste, in opinion, in mind and in intellect. Unfortunately for India even after independence Nehru led congress government followed by later congress governments have followed the same mantra as desired by Macaulay a century ago.

    He wrote to his father, “It is my firm belief that, if our plans of education are followed up, there will not be a single idolater among the respectable classes in Bengal thirty years hence.”
    Max Müller was a British agent, especially employed (in 1847) to write the translations of the Vedas in such a demeaning way so that the Hindus should lose faith in them. His personal letters reveals this fact.
    To Chevalier Bunsen, 55 St. John Street, Oxford, August 25, 1856, he wrote:
    should like to live for 10 years quite quietly and learn the language, try to make friends, and then see whether I was fit to take part in a work, by means of which the old mischief of Indian priestcraft could be overthrown and the way opened for the entrance of simple Christian teaching.Whatever finds root in India soon overshadows the whole of Asia.”
    To the Dean of St. Paul’s (Dr. Milman), Stauton House Bournemouth, February 26, 1867, he wrote:

    “I have myself the strongest belief in the growth of Christianity in India. There is no country so ripe for Christianity as India, and yet the difficulties seem enormous.”
    As Max Mueller, the propagator of the Aryan invasion theory, wrote to his wife,
    It took only 200 years for us to Christianise the whole of Africa, but even after 400 years India eludes us, I have come to realize that it is Sanskrit which has enabled India to do so. And to break it I have decided to learn Sanskrit.”
    ….

    • ‘…old mischief of Indian priestcraft could be overthrown…’

      His intentions were very laudable. It is indeed this Brahmin mischief that has kept India backward.

      • Were it not for the British school system, millions of non-brahmins would never have learned to read or write !
        There was no schooling system for the masses in India before the British arrived. Only elites had access to education be it from Hindus or Muslims.
        While it is fair to despise our former colonisers, we have to thank them for introducing their education system here even if their intentions may have been different. Fact is many Brahmins utilised this system to gain employment during the British Raj.

        • I rate Lord Macaulay as a very fine intellectual. His Minute on English education in India shows a high thinking person. Indians quote one or two stray sentences out of context.

          The Brahmins claim Sanscrit had everything but they denied it to everyone. The English made their education democratic. The Brahmins cornered it.

          The Dalits should forget about being priests, they should take up English education. The New Education Policy is designed to keep them out of it. The caste Hindus will go to private English medium and Dalits will be in govt. school learning Ramayana in Hindi, and afterwards will be unemployable.

  21. This is the level of your journalism. I have seen the way you are talking about whole society. Not a single statement that talked about integration of society. How people allow you to write such type of content, I can’t digest this fact. This is the level of your education? You have lost all your values and cultures. You have one thing that is “hatred” and now by writing such thing you are only instigating people to fight against each other on the name of caste and religion.

  22. Is this all that you can Come up with?
    To drag caste in every facet.

    Can you not see the justice that has finally been given to Hinduism? In India itself Hindus can not build a temple on a sacred site due to the manner in which the Muslims behave. Take a look at Kasi Vishwanath and Mathura Janma boomi…
    Why don’t you right articles on the way Hindus are abused in Pakistan and Bangladesh? Is that not more of a human rights issue to you?
    Write about the invaders and mugals.
    Are you aware of the damage they have done to millions of people? Maybe that’s not possible because you lack knowledge of historical facts.
    Did you hear of the kashmir pandit? Mass rapes and murder… Is that not something to get sentimental about?

    You are actually pathetic!

  23. I can’t understand this thing first of all…Dalits are also human…..if God had created humans they are also created by him only…..then y this caste distinction……as I’m only 18 age who is reading this news article it is creating strong impact on my knowledge of equality……or if God has dived people into four Varmas where dalit would be placed if they r avarmas then why they are not considered by god ……I’m a absolute believer and deity of ram and krishna……but y God has created these Varmas and restricted …won’t he help people’s of dalit caste …….even I’m thinking about this in my sleep anyone can’t give me a clear explanation…..if somebody gives its not at all up to satisfaction…y I’m not getting ans faa my question ….

    • Man created caste. Man created religion. God didn’t.
      God created man ? : Nature through it’s evolutionary process evolved Man from the apes. That is all science can tell us with evidence. Religions have their own stories to tell about how God created Man, which is up to you to believe.

    • Let me try to clear up some light. In the Vedic era, there were 4 varnas- Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra. You know very well their duties. But, this was not based on genetics. The offspring of a Brahmin should not necessarily be a Brahmin. The offspring of Shudra need not be a Shudra. It was based on qualification and merit. Don’t believe me? Let me quote the Manusmriti:

      “शूद्रो ब्राह्मणतामेति ब्राह्मणश्चैति शूद्रताम् ।
      क्षत्रियाज् जातमेवं तु विद्याद् वैश्यात् तथैव च ॥”

      – Manusmriti 10.65

      Translation: A Shudra can become a Brahmin, and a Brahmin can become a Shudra.
      It is the same in case of Vaishya and Kshatriyas as well.

      So clearly, there is a concept of caste migration in the Manusmriti. Some examples include:
      Sant Gulabrao Maharaj

      He was born in Kunbi caste, which is from Shudra Varna. Yet, he was a ‘Sant’, a Brahmin because of his merit. Shudras can become Brahmins if they live life according to the Vedas and are good people, and Brahmins will become Shudras if they are bad and are not dutiful Brahmins but Brahmin only in Name. In fact, Manusmriti says:

      “यथा काष्ठमयो हस्ती यथा चर्ममयो मृगः ।
      यश्च विप्रोऽनधीयानस्त्रयस्ते नाम बिभ्रति ॥”

      – Manusmriti 2.157

      Translation: The unlearned Brahmin is like an elephant made of wood (useless in this context) and a deer made of leather (useless in this context)- these 3 merely bear their names.

      Want another example of how a Brahmin can become a Shudra? Okay! The Manusmriti says:

      “यो न वेत्त्यभिवादस्य विप्रः प्रत्यभिवादनम् ।
      नाभिवाद्यः स विदुषा यथा शूद्रस्तथैव सः ॥”

      – Manusmriti 2.126

      Translation: The Brahmin who does not greet back to a person should not be greeted by the wise. He is exactly what a Shudra is.

      Now, some of you may quote the Apastamba Sutra Verses 4-5 which say:
      [There are] four castes — Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras. (4)
      Among these, each preceding [caste] is superior by birth to the one
      following. (5)

      I would like you to then continue reading the Apastamba Sutra to read from Verses 14-17 which say:
      He from whom one gathers [the knowledge of] Dharma is
      called the acharya [teacher]. (14)
      The teacher should never be offended in any way. (15)
      For he gives a second birth to the student by [imparting to him] sacred
      learning. (16)
      This [second] birth is the best. (17)

      This second birth is known as Dwij, and this Dwij happens when a person receives the knowledge. After receiving this knowledge, he is superior to others by this ‘second’ birth. Brahmins are superior by their ‘second birth’. If a Brahmin is not learned and not righteous, he should be punished and is a Shudra. If a Shudra is learned and righteous, he is not less than the ideal Brahmin.

      I hope my answer satisfies you

  24. Really sadden by such a Hippocratic media . Why we need to fan the discussion over sc,st,general, backward.

    Have madal ayaog made any difference in society rather that creating annonimty in communities.

    Can we not just make progress and geninuty of merit for progress and eradicate any kind of deferential attitude about anyone.

    These kind of blogs or editorials are just politically motivated. And hardly make any betterment of society.

  25. Modi has made Dalit the President of India,but your news which recieves funding from Pakistan,ISI and Christian missionaries will not show that.

  26. Ram was a king who killed a Shudra named Shambuka just because he was doing penance.IMO no Shudra should worship him or be a priest at a temple for Ram. As for commies ,they won’t even allow any lower cast in their PB.

    • Please do a bit more research. Firstly, the story is from Uttar Kand of Ramayan, which was NOT ORIGINALLY PART OF RAMAYAN. It is an INTERPOLATION, AND WAS ADDED LATER. The original Ramayan ended with the coronation of Shri Ram as King of Ayodhya.

  27. Sir i think you forget the the rishi becoz of whom we know ram katha, valmiki ji. Who is low caste by birth but Maharishi by karma. And why you people always ask question of inequality in hinduism. Did higher caste ever complaint when their kinse dont get good job, colleges etc despite being better in academic than low caste. We r not discriminating‌, if shudra have to worship lord ram then first of they have clean up their mind from these poison of discrimination. And if you dont know ramayans then plz read it first before commenting on it

  28. Cast System has to be removed from every where,
    Government should stop asking caste in schools,
    Now a days Kids are not aware of Cast system, only they will come to know about this term when School asks the same for their records, this I am saying with my own experience
    This is my request to all including the Goverment Hinduism is not a religion it is the way of living that’s what is said in SANATHANA Dharma, please remove the caste system to safeguard Our Hinduism

    PLEASE Bring Govt orders not to ask caste any where in schools or working places or living places

    This will only bring equality and peace in our Country

    Jai Hind

  29. KANCHA ILAIAH SHEPHERD you should read about “shabri ke bair” . What other proof we require that sanatan Dharma in pure form oppose discrimination. Further your agenda is not upliftment of harijan,instead it is to divide sanatan Dharma on name of cast & region. Modern day communist, missionairy funded converts and technically literate jihadis are as dangerous as stupid’s who support untouchability. How you smartly malign such auspicious event is proof of it. Next you will say majority were males among prists. Then you will say no dravidian was among prists, also only whitish and not very black priests were their. You are the presstitute (manipulative journalist) who neither believe nor respect sanatan Dharma. But now everyone know how cheap journalist like you first decide context and then search for story arOund that. English is not sign of being intellectual, nor modernity comes from spreading venomous thoughts to divide Indians like you tried in this article. We are Indian one and equal and undivided. Jai hind

  30. Author is very desperate to create division- Poor guy – Guha – a boatman was a great friend of Ram and Ram stopped for him on his return journey!! He said with Guha – We are 5 brothers!! Pitty wrong soul ( Author ) – May you realize your true self and please come out of shitful thinking for few rupees …

  31. Thought Provoking Article. BJP are giving importance to Hindi language,Hindu Rashtra and Hindustan . The Dalits must give importance to English language and Higher and Skill Based Vocational Education. Eradicate caste system living in Hinduism never possible. Better Dalits embrace other religion which advocate Equality, Liberty, Rationality and Social Justice.

    • Better Dalits embrace other religion which advocate Equality, Liberty, Rationality and Social Justice. That is what Ambedkar advocated.

  32. Is it necessary to bring back the caste system into play now. Caste system earlier as my personal idea was about the transfer of knowledge as there were no educational institute so basically a farmer’s son would farm but yes today there is no need of caste system and yes there should be inclusion of every person in temple or gurukul who have interest in learning about it. Basically i dont believe that the division was based on birth but more about the gunas they possess but every one will have a different idea about it specially leftists. Not only Sudras Dalits but Everyone should have equal rights why bring back the old terminology and sparkle unnecessary debate. Better start #everylivesmatter trend and abolish the caste system all together. And i dont think there was a thing called dalits in varnas varna system divides people based on gunas in to 4 categories Brahmins Kshatriyas Shudras Vaishya these later got manipulated by people for there own advantage why take them as by birth better give Kshatriyas category to all people who are in armies as they know how to fight brahmins to all the scholars doesn’t matter if he’s dalit or shudra by birth but these imposition is actually not needed at all why divide people on the basis of system that was created back thousands of years ago today we should just abolish caste system and just stay as open obc st sc then after a there should be no mention of caste on certificate and after a decade or two open st sc should also be dissolved and replace by better reservation system for the people needed.

  33. Shudras and Dalits should not aim for jobs of priests at temples. It is not worth it. They should seriously pursue English and Science rather than Sanskrit.
    They should travel West and East, take opportunities to go abroad for a while and understand how other cultures have progressed, developed and solved their people’s problems and built economically strong nations.
    This will open their minds to the world of rational thinking. The confidence with such exposure will yield them social skills. They will then be able to think for themselves. Easier said than done. It may take couple of generations. Eventually political parties will not be able to misuse them and the whole edifice of religio-politics as practised in India today will collapse.

  34. Ye tumhare dimag ki gareebi hai, jo tum ye soach rahe ho ki Sc St aur obc ko ram mandir ka pujari banaya jay. Aage se aisa ghatiya matter mat dalna. Sawarno ke prati jabtak apni soch aachi rakhoge tabtak tumhara sehat bhi thik rahega. Apna sehat ka khyal rakho.

  35. The communists have no concern with the temple or mosque. They even don’t have any concern with equality based on caste. So no demand as such by them is part of their communist politics. Don’t expect anything as such from them.

  36. Well, I think Kerala is the only state which gives caste based reservation for priesthood and hence even dalits manage to become priests.

  37. Well, I think Kerala is the only state which gives caste based reservation for priesthood and hence even dalits manage to become priests.

  38. Shall we insist you should hire a particular caste only as head of THE PRINT operation? And you know that our intention is not even on the community wellbeing, but create a rift and friction within your organization, that THE PRINT may cease to function. What will be your response?

    • He is asking the same question. There isn’t a priest who is non-brahmin. There is no sarsangchalak who is non-brahmin. So it is meritocracy which decides or the blood line ??

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