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Cooling-off period for lateral entrants ? Did the IAS body chairman suffer head injury in childhood ? These chimps are the reason for lateral entry of working minds into IAS.
the IAS association secretary wants a cooling off period of 5 years! how will the contractual selectees earn their livelihood? Do they get a pension like IAS retirees?
Clowns like the IAS association secretary are a strong reason for external candidates.
It is not the problem of lateral entry, some of the members saying it is a pet project of Modi ji , yes every p m will come with some dream project, as it was atal ji golden quadrant , so the infrastructure boom developed, but the lateral entry must go through a transparent process and some good technocrats will be part of our elite civil services
The Lateral Entry Scheme Will Certainly Be Misused To Bring In Favorites In Top Seats So That They May Be Used As The Political Masters Desire. Urjit Patel. Former RBI Governor Is A Case In Point; Though He Revolted Against Who Brought Him In. Now A History PG Has Been Brought In Economic Affairs? Will He Do Justice To RBI Except Licking Soles Of His Masters?
The government is fully capable of doing what it really wants to do with excellence. The key phrase “it really wants”. If a few months have gone by and it is still not able implement a policy decision taken at the highest level, there is a serious possibility that some of the key people involved in the implementation are not having their heart in this decision.
I have been one of those who joined laterally into a PSU at about a similar level from a private sector background. I have seen how in small ways the system is made to not accept outsiders. When I had been interviewed for a Director level position in the same PSU by the PESB, one of the members mentioned about the inability of private sector people to handle the complexity etc.
Also the initial advertisement in the present case is for a contractual position. There will be lots of tacit discrimination through which, even when the positions are filled by competent people, they will be not welcome and not allowed to function. The hidden traps of CVC and others also exist amidst the confounding cross rules and procedures , as only those who are past masters and who are trained in the system to think like them can survive these hidden traps. But for those who feel the thrill of the unknown and are desirous of making a small difference, there are lots of opportunities provided one is lucky to get a good boss and/or team. One must have patience and tolerance for lots of wastes in the system.
When there is a shortage of an IAS officers in the adminstration why the posts are being reduced every year even though there are number of vacancies ? On the other hand pm modis government is heading towards minimum governance .so what could be the better solution to fill the shortage ?
That our Babus don’t change their red tapism shows when one of them says “They should have a cool off period of 5 years from employment”. Imagine someone quitting their job today and living off others to apply for a few lateral entry positions after 5 years. This is a sure recipe to have single digit applicants so that they can select easily.
High time UPSC was wound up. It has been an unmitigated disaster. Delays all around. The Govt ought to punish persons who drafted original advertisement.
Dr Das is fit candidate. If you have no technical qualification it means nothing. TrumpTheresa May PM Modi are politician who run the foreign policy. And all big inventions were done by those who were not scientist in true way. IAS officer are prrfect
They know much. Who can discuss issue in WTO in UNO. They have run RBI before and will run best. So dnt pass poor comment pl
As an IAS officer, Das did an advanced financial management course from Indian Institute of Management Bangalore and got development banking and institutional credit from the National Institute of Bank Management. He also got in-service professional training in financial management in Institute Public Enterprises.
Every government will have its own requirements.If,as mr.Bhatia says,the BJP would like someone who sympathises with its views,surely,the Congress party is more than likely to want someone who will acquiese to their commands.
Preeta ji, I too have voiced the same fear in the second para of my comment (the “desired” and “desirable” bit). But we must remember that the Congress was in power for many decades and never did this idea of lateral IAS come up; BJP too was in power under Atal ji and this idea was never mooted; it is only under Mr Modi that it has come up, and brought with it the fears of possible misuse, because there are other examples under the present government when a person has been selected for a post that wasn’t justified by his background. Like Mr Gajendra Chauhan as FTII chief. Lastly, my name is BhatLa. (Never mind, I’m used to seeing people make this mistake!)
Take the example of Shakti Kanta Das. He is BA and MA in History, and has/had been pushed into economics jobs. An engineering or math student can handle such a job better because it requires more than a passing familiarity with mathematics and statistics. These two are not the subjects that you can “start” learning past your prime learning years, say up to the age of 20-22. Up to this age Mr Das was occupied and engrossed with History.
So, it looks a candidate’s “pliability” is a bigger qualification than the relevant professional experience in the eyes of the present government. Lateral entry into IAS could facilitate just that. Not just the present, but future governments too may exploit this facility to accommodate “desired” candidates (as against “desirable”).
Why not instead adopt an open mindset to INVITE “consultants” from the relevant private companies on short tenures? This will also give the minister flexibility to try out more than one consultants, or different consultants for different arms of a project. The biggest advantage of the consultant route will be that only a few select people with PROVEN expertise will be approached, instead of taking a blind call as advertising in newspapers etc. Take the example of Mr Sridharan (I hope I have got the name right) who fructified the Konkan Railway, and was thereafter also involved with Delhi metro. He is the kind of outsider who can replace a senior most IAS officer when it comes to such projects. Let such an expert “choose” other younger experts for some feeder projects, each of whom might replace or act in the place of another IAS officer, and so on.
This idea of facilitating blanket entry of outsiders into IAS cadre through advertisements is a dangerous one and liable to be misused, or most likely to be misused as long as the BJP is in power. Because in their case, the “alleged” suitable candidate will necessarily have to carry the Hindutva feather in his cap otherwise he won’t be found suitable.
Cooling-off period for lateral entrants ? Did the IAS body chairman suffer head injury in childhood ? These chimps are the reason for lateral entry of working minds into IAS.
the IAS association secretary wants a cooling off period of 5 years! how will the contractual selectees earn their livelihood? Do they get a pension like IAS retirees?
Clowns like the IAS association secretary are a strong reason for external candidates.
It is not the problem of lateral entry, some of the members saying it is a pet project of Modi ji , yes every p m will come with some dream project, as it was atal ji golden quadrant , so the infrastructure boom developed, but the lateral entry must go through a transparent process and some good technocrats will be part of our elite civil services
The Lateral Entry Scheme Will Certainly Be Misused To Bring In Favorites In Top Seats So That They May Be Used As The Political Masters Desire. Urjit Patel. Former RBI Governor Is A Case In Point; Though He Revolted Against Who Brought Him In. Now A History PG Has Been Brought In Economic Affairs? Will He Do Justice To RBI Except Licking Soles Of His Masters?
The government is fully capable of doing what it really wants to do with excellence. The key phrase “it really wants”. If a few months have gone by and it is still not able implement a policy decision taken at the highest level, there is a serious possibility that some of the key people involved in the implementation are not having their heart in this decision.
I have been one of those who joined laterally into a PSU at about a similar level from a private sector background. I have seen how in small ways the system is made to not accept outsiders. When I had been interviewed for a Director level position in the same PSU by the PESB, one of the members mentioned about the inability of private sector people to handle the complexity etc.
Also the initial advertisement in the present case is for a contractual position. There will be lots of tacit discrimination through which, even when the positions are filled by competent people, they will be not welcome and not allowed to function. The hidden traps of CVC and others also exist amidst the confounding cross rules and procedures , as only those who are past masters and who are trained in the system to think like them can survive these hidden traps. But for those who feel the thrill of the unknown and are desirous of making a small difference, there are lots of opportunities provided one is lucky to get a good boss and/or team. One must have patience and tolerance for lots of wastes in the system.
When there is a shortage of an IAS officers in the adminstration why the posts are being reduced every year even though there are number of vacancies ? On the other hand pm modis government is heading towards minimum governance .so what could be the better solution to fill the shortage ?
That our Babus don’t change their red tapism shows when one of them says “They should have a cool off period of 5 years from employment”. Imagine someone quitting their job today and living off others to apply for a few lateral entry positions after 5 years. This is a sure recipe to have single digit applicants so that they can select easily.
High time UPSC was wound up. It has been an unmitigated disaster. Delays all around. The Govt ought to punish persons who drafted original advertisement.
Dr Das is fit candidate. If you have no technical qualification it means nothing. TrumpTheresa May PM Modi are politician who run the foreign policy. And all big inventions were done by those who were not scientist in true way. IAS officer are prrfect
They know much. Who can discuss issue in WTO in UNO. They have run RBI before and will run best. So dnt pass poor comment pl
As an IAS officer, Das did an advanced financial management course from Indian Institute of Management Bangalore and got development banking and institutional credit from the National Institute of Bank Management. He also got in-service professional training in financial management in Institute Public Enterprises.
Every government will have its own requirements.If,as mr.Bhatia says,the BJP would like someone who sympathises with its views,surely,the Congress party is more than likely to want someone who will acquiese to their commands.
Preeta ji, I too have voiced the same fear in the second para of my comment (the “desired” and “desirable” bit). But we must remember that the Congress was in power for many decades and never did this idea of lateral IAS come up; BJP too was in power under Atal ji and this idea was never mooted; it is only under Mr Modi that it has come up, and brought with it the fears of possible misuse, because there are other examples under the present government when a person has been selected for a post that wasn’t justified by his background. Like Mr Gajendra Chauhan as FTII chief. Lastly, my name is BhatLa. (Never mind, I’m used to seeing people make this mistake!)
Take the example of Shakti Kanta Das. He is BA and MA in History, and has/had been pushed into economics jobs. An engineering or math student can handle such a job better because it requires more than a passing familiarity with mathematics and statistics. These two are not the subjects that you can “start” learning past your prime learning years, say up to the age of 20-22. Up to this age Mr Das was occupied and engrossed with History.
So, it looks a candidate’s “pliability” is a bigger qualification than the relevant professional experience in the eyes of the present government. Lateral entry into IAS could facilitate just that. Not just the present, but future governments too may exploit this facility to accommodate “desired” candidates (as against “desirable”).
Why not instead adopt an open mindset to INVITE “consultants” from the relevant private companies on short tenures? This will also give the minister flexibility to try out more than one consultants, or different consultants for different arms of a project. The biggest advantage of the consultant route will be that only a few select people with PROVEN expertise will be approached, instead of taking a blind call as advertising in newspapers etc. Take the example of Mr Sridharan (I hope I have got the name right) who fructified the Konkan Railway, and was thereafter also involved with Delhi metro. He is the kind of outsider who can replace a senior most IAS officer when it comes to such projects. Let such an expert “choose” other younger experts for some feeder projects, each of whom might replace or act in the place of another IAS officer, and so on.
This idea of facilitating blanket entry of outsiders into IAS cadre through advertisements is a dangerous one and liable to be misused, or most likely to be misused as long as the BJP is in power. Because in their case, the “alleged” suitable candidate will necessarily have to carry the Hindutva feather in his cap otherwise he won’t be found suitable.