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Indians have imported casteism to the US & a black journalist writes on the need to ban it

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Civil rights laws do not explicitly ban discrimination based on caste. It was not seen as an issue in America when those laws were written.

Until six months ago, I had never considered that Indian immigrants had imported the caste system to the United States. That was when a senior reporter at the public radio station where I work as a senior editor in Boston told me he wanted to do a series on caste in America. He cited a few examples of discrimination he’d heard about. I endorsed the proposed series as a fine idea. As African-Americans, we both see the clear parallels between race and caste.

Last week, that reporter and I were astonished to find ourselves at a forum, inside a church near Harvard University, where an activist group of Dalit Americans unveiled a survey titled, ‘Caste in the United States’. The reporter has yet to hear back about his grant proposal to fund his series, but he’s the kind of journalist who gathers string for ambitious stories. He was there with his microphone, recorder and questions.

The first of its kind, the survey found that the caste system had indeed penetrated south Asian life in America, appearing to confirm the reporter’s story idea. I was intrigued because caste was a theme of my coverage of India as a foreign correspondent two decades ago. But was the survey valid?

After I sat down in the room crowded mostly with young people of different races and devoured a couple of samosas, the first thing I did was review the methodology in an appendix to the 49-page report. The sample size was 1,200, more than sufficient for a national survey in the United States.

The venerable Gallup polls rely on national samples of 1,000, for instance. In India, a country four times as populous, samples need to be larger, but 1,200 was big enough for the United States.

The limitation on the Equity Labs survey conducted online is how the sample was drawn. It was not a random sample. The authors did broad outreach through their contacts and other south Asian organisations to obtain a sizeable but self-selected sample.

The authors appear to recognise the survey’s limitations; they do not report a margin of error. It would be prohibitively expensive, if not virtually impossible, to conduct a random survey of Dalits and low-caste south Asians in America, given their small percentage in the overall population of 300 million.

That said, the survey stands as a preliminary, impressionistic picture of casteism operating in the United States. A recurrent theme in the findings is the shunning of a people once called “untouchables” at workplaces, schools, romantic relationships and houses of worship.

Two-thirds of the Dalit respondents, for example, said they had experienced “caste discrimination” where they had worked —perpetrated by other people of south Asian descent. Not surprisingly, just over half the Dalits reported they were doing what African-Americans would call “passing”, hiding their caste identity.

Caste bias has survived in America, despite the country’s egalitarian creed, because immigrant communities of all kinds can and do retain some of their traditional practices. Civil rights laws do not explicitly ban discrimination based on caste. It was not seen as an issue in America when those laws were written.

Most specific examples cited in the report were about acts of personal prejudice, not the kind of institutional discrimination that would be vulnerable to a legal challenge under such laws. But other examples described the effects of a “hostile environment” at workplaces or schools, which would be covered under civil rights laws. And physical assaults mentioned in the report could be classified as “hate crimes”.

A couple of findings did surprise me. Nearly half the Dalits have postgraduate degrees, compared to about a quarter of Brahmins. I would have expected something like the reverse.

The reason appears to be related to India’s reservations: Three-quarters of Dalits said they had benefitted from affirmative action in their countries of origin. India’s leadership class might want to contemplate why so many Dalits were taking their reservation-enabled educations and leaving, perhaps never to return.

The survey report’s authors, Thenmozhi Soundararajan and Maari Zwick-Maitreyi, make modest recommendations that American institutions raise awareness about caste bias in their ranks. Colleges are asked to add caste to their anti-hazing and anti-bullying policies, and religious institutions are advised to establish reporting and monitoring procedures to root out caste prejudice.

A bolder approach would be to call for caste to be added to national and state civil rights laws that bar discrimination on specific grounds, along with race, sex, religion, colour, national origin and, in some cases, sexual orientation.

That addition would be harder to achieve and would require increased awareness of casteism as a first step anyway. The US Congress passed the seminal Civil Rights Act of 1964, after all, only once a media-savvy movement swayed public opinion.

Kenneth J. Cooper, a senior editor at WGBH in Boston, was south Asia bureau chief of The Washington Post from 1996 to 1999.

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119 COMMENTS

  1. As hinduism will spread in developed countries, so will casteism, If allowed to spread more, it will soon also affect people of African-American descent, because “In hinduism a person with dark skin tone is generally considered of low caste”.

    This will again create chaos for the nations trying to abolish racism.

    The only way to avoid that future is to acknowledge that Hinduism means Casteism.

    Teach children about the stupidity of this tradition and please for the sake of your children..”Do not donate in hindu temples”.

  2. It’s hard time to America, UK, etc. The same inhuman so called forward community of India made its roots stronger in other countries too after destroying the whole India to a rubbish land of Sins by their cunning tricks for 1000s of years (In fact, from the day this human started to exist). They have put India in a irreversible turmoil, now have captured almost everything to their tune here and making India a hell to live for majority of poor population. Hereafter only those in power, rich, fame, etc. wll dictate the society here to dance to their tunes. No one can raise their voice anymore. All the communications, media, technologies like voting machine, mobile phones, news media, TV , movie, etc., etc. are in their hands and it’s only for their well being garnered here. Same will happen to each and every nation if they fail to realize the kind of Indian Dons who pretend to be calm and soft. But they are the worst devils living in disguise! Already for US, UK it’s too late it seems. Anyway, now or never! Wake up…. Wake up!… Try to identify the devils and destroy their plans before they destroy you. Even now many thing under their control there. As a true Indian, I write for the world to survive from these devil mongers’ tricks and fake illusions.

  3. This writer is a moron , and without the facts talking rubbish!

    She is mixing caste and race.

    Race can be seen by colour but how caste will be seen?

    In private sector or in a non-reservation society u will not even notice it. U notice it only when a low ranker person ,(even may be wealthier then u ,from a well educated family) gets a job and not you.

    Has she given any instance where she noticed it?? NO.
    Does she have any facts ?? No.
    Seems like she is afraid of increasing influence of Hinduism in USA. And paid by missionaries to write it. A tool used by Christian missionaries in India.

    It’s just another attempt to discredit Hindusim , the most beautiful religion, teaching the values of Tolerance , spiritualism, and Universal brotherhood to the world since last 4000 years.

    And yes , for last 4000 years the tribes Hindus didn’t convert to their fold forcefully, Christian missionaries are going after them like dogs. Have some shame!!

  4. This writer is a moron , and without the facts talking rubbish!

    She is mixing caste and race.

    Race can be seen by colour but how caste will be seen?

    In private sector or in a non-reservation society u will not even notice it. U notice it only when a low ranker person ,(even may be wealthier then u ,from a well educated family) gets a job and not you.

    Has she given any instance where she noticed it?? NO.
    Does she have any facts ?? No.
    Seems like she is afraid of increasing influence of Hinduism in USA. And paid by missionaries to write it. A tool used by Christian missionaries in India.

    It’s just another attempt to discredit Hindusim , the most beautiful religion, teaching the values of Tolerance , spiritualism, and Universal brotherhood to the world since last 4000 years.

  5. Bramin is history thief man in india.fake news and history create.worst behaviour in Hinduism discrimination.man to man discrimination in usa shortly bramin

  6. An excellent article.
    Along with Caste, these Indians also bring in radical Hindu ideologies. Such as the RSS and VHP extremist wings and their teachings of violence against non-Hindu people.
    They have a couple of Branches/ Sangams, where radical ideologies of the Hindu race are propagated.

    The latest Pro-CAA rallies in NewYork are a representation of the growing clout of the Caste Hindus and their RSS ideologies.
    CAA is (discriminating which refugee can seek asylum in India, on the basis of religion).

    It is ironic, that the caste Hindus want to enjoy the benefits as minorities in a discriminatory free environment like the US, while at the same time, trying to support discrimination of minorities in India.

    The Indians are a highly clannish group, and the upper castes especially the “Brahmins” will practice selective promotion for fellow brahmins , and forming a powerful lobby of their own,. They can get away with it, as US is not aware of the nuances of caste.

    As an Indian christian, I look at the rise of the caste Hindu in America with fear and worry, as it is a disease that should not be allowed to grow in the US. Once I get my US citizenship, I feel it is my duty to make America aware of the caste Hindus, and give Americans ways to identify any abouse that is carried out by this group. It is easy to spot them once you know their last names, most of the castes have a surname that identifies the group, with a few nuances.

    • 1)It looks like you are living in a paradise of your own India is trying hard to get rid of caste it can be only done only slowly
      2)There are enough christian missionaries acting in my country where bigots like you converted for money lecturing about,do you know the biggest discrimination against Africans happens in churches just because you are not black you conveniently get away from that so you dont bother
      Christianity is already kicked out of Europe now you are coming after hindus in india
      3)You are the kind of indians that are ashamed of our culture and calling indias as clannish group I am glad you left india
      4)Untill you fell the racism in USA you will not learn how hypocritical USA is,USA is already losing its super power status then you will again come begging for india
      5)Its just 70 yrs India came to existent it just needs some time to dovelope and grow and Hindus to evolve,Its is bigots like you who dont understand Indians great history and culture you may be one of the converted and always show Hindus in bad light just because it has one flaw.

    • You and others who think like you are the real parasites who need to be weeded out of the USA. You are probably an average person simply jealous of the the others achievements and cannot rise up to their level. Hence you spew venom. I sincerely wish that you do not get US citizenship.

  7. Kenneth Cooper and Kavitha Krishnamurthy;

    Before you write baseless things, please study the true history.

    Caste was not created by any one in India. It was imported by Portuguese to India. So, if it is in India or anywhere in the world and if it is a crime, hold the Portuguese guilty. Not people from India. They are the real culprit, Go after them.

    And Indians were in America long before the so-called white people or black people came to America. The people the whites found in America, was originally from India. Indian word “JAthi” is not Caste. There are plenty of such foolish ideas in the head of a lot of people like you, which was fed into your brains by the Europeans specially the British. And there are hundreds of Indian language words wrongly translated to English and vise- versa by the British still in use. It is better to get the changed and their real meanings incorporated into the dictionary used, specially by Indians.

      • You are not only aa idiot, but real faceless fool also. You do not even know what is it. Do you know that that name is very common in quite a few communities including Christians.

  8. What a piece of fakery masquerading as journalism! This seems to be either an attempt by the evangelicals to convert those dalit folks to christianity, or an incidious attempt to export the victimhood industry from India to US. I have been an Indian immigrant living US for 25 years, first 5 years as a student and the next 20 years in a job. None of my friends (Indian or American) know my caste and I do not know anyone else’s caste (unless it is obvious from their last name). Caste has been the subject of my conversations with friends and family, either directly or indirectly, absolutely zero times in 25 years. If you are basing your article on a handful of personal anecdotes, you should come talk to folks like me and write a diametrically opposite article on how Indians leave their caste behind when they leave India. What a load of bull!

  9. Anybody can write this crap having no data to support. The very fact that the publishers shy away from talking about the margin of error reveals their intention behind the whole exercise – just rabble-rousing. I too can interview a couple of brahmins troubled by dalits in some remote corner of Jersey city and write an article crying foul. Big deal? Grow up guys and gals!

  10. Is this like the Muslims and their alleged import of Sharia?

    To clarify, in case my sarcasm is lost, this is another of those ridiculous allegations that always seem to find a warm reception in this country. Instigate, divide and conquer. Instigate, divide and conquer. All the way to the bank!

    From the article: ‘Last week, that reporter and I were astonished to find ourselves at a forum, inside a church near Harvard University, where an activist group of Dalit Americans unveiled a survey titled, ‘Caste in the United States’. ‘ – of course, where else but near Harvard U would this happen?

    The article has to be read to be believed. What exactly do these people expect? That immigrants will leave their biases and prejudices at home before they set sail for the U.S.? But do random instances of expression of such bias equate to “imported casteism”?

    More: ‘The authors appear to recognise the survey’s limitations; they do not report a margin of error.’ and ‘The survey report’s authors… make modest recommendations that American institutions raise awareness about caste bias in their ranks. Colleges are asked to add caste to their anti-hazing and anti-bullying policies, and religious institutions are advised to establish reporting and monitoring procedures to root out caste prejudice.’
    ***
    Interesting – Just googled the researchers:

    https://www.equalitylabs.org/staff/
    ‘Equality Labs is a South Asian organization that uses community research, socially engaged art, and technology to end the oppression of caste apartheid, Islamophobia, white supremacy, and religious intolerance.’

    ‘While we are homogenized through the process of racialization into the category “South Asian” (and therefore share many of the challenges of racism), the reality is that this label renders invisible the history of violence that caste and religion-oppressed immigrants have faced in our home countries (and continue to face here) because of of the structures of Hindu fundamentalism.

    We believe that all progressive South Asians must work towards the goals of ending white supremacy but crucially, also our internal hegemonies, such as that exemplified by caste. We also believe we must create spaces where women, femmes, gender non-binary, and trans leaders lead the way in identifying the problems and creating solutions.’

    some of the “rapid response” services they provide include ”
    – Emergency Support – Doxxing / Trolling
    – Emergency Support – Hack in Progress
    – Emergency Support – Request a Digital Security training
    – Emergency Support – Request a Security Audit

  11. Kerala Chirstian living in texas,

    there is so much of this caste based bullshit and nonsense that was imported from india to here.

    i dont whats wrong with these people they like to wear to addidas and nike on the outside of the body, but inside they are wearing the colors of castesm, proudly, everybody hates the one below them and jelous of the caste above them.

    even now marriages and other functions happens with that in major consideration, this stuff needs to go away.

  12. As an upper caste Hindu immigrant, I can attest to the bigotry of my people in the United States.

    They are fundamentalists who support Hindu fascism. White liberals who have no idea about Brahmins who created untouchables and oppressed them for millennia support my fellow Hindus, who are fascists.

    Shame on you and everyone who thinks this is an attack on Hinduism. There is no unified idea of Hinduism.

    I am glad the voices of Dalits is being given a mic. I dare my fellow Brahmins in this country to walk into a Dalit convention in the US and express your outrage.

    Brahmins are even worse than the KKK. Shame on us for not trying to address this.
    Even worse we all support the Democratic party.

    • Tell you what! Hate mongering rabble rousers like you spinning fake stories is the issue. As per the same author, the event organizers appeared to know the limitations of the survey but didn’t report margin of error. The clearly shows how sincere they are.

      If you want to succeed here in this country, you gotta work hard and earn it. Crying foul over brahmins would only end up revealing your racist instincts. Now, get back to work and finish your tasks, if you have any. “A brahmin oppressed a dalit in some God damned place and thats why I could not finish my tasks today” aint gonna sell.

    • 1)Do you even know that Brahmins are minority in India and they dont even represent even 1% of india
      2)at one point of time they used to but now they are just minorities
      3)It looks like this article is written to justify conversions in the country

  13. This rather impressive article doesn’t surprise me at all. Dr Ambedkar wrote/prophesied more than 7 decades back,-
    …He wrote” Caste is the bad breath of Hinduism. Hindus carry it where ever they go. ”

    Forget USA, if after a few decades man reaches Mars and starts establishing human habitations there, and brahmins also somehow reach there, they would carry their “BAD BREATH” there as well.

  14. I am an Indian Americans for over 33 years and now an American citizen (I.e. Those who migrated from India but abandoned their Indian Citizenship to become American Citizens!) like me than 1000 Indians living in India who never left their villages in India????????. I agree with what Chitra says about life in the USA for Indian immigrants. 1) There are less than 1% of Asian Indian immigrants ( about 2.8M) out of 310 M American population and could not make any dent politically, economically, culturally and even symbolically in the USA that is 3.5 time bigger than India in area with just 1/3 population of India. 2)The II generation former Indians born in the USA do not know,nor follow,norcare about the customs and traditions of India except as a joke till they are 14 years and ignore India and will never come to visit even to suffer the chaos there, let alone the caste and languages etc. 3) never hear of this journal with no names of the writer or the name of that so-called black writer, meeting some Indian Dalit in a Church (out of the 1% Indians Christian Indians may be 5% or less and who goes to Church in USA ????????, White or Black or Hispanic Church to go??) with zero examples of any discrimination event is laughable, ONLY an typicalIndian could write such an article like in India?!???????? 4) Civil Rights – Civil rights law refers to – Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000e and following) prohibits employers from discriminating against applicants and employees on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, and national origin (including membership in a Native American tribe). Note it is the law tobe followed by EMPLOYERS. Unlike in India where caste discrimination in University and Govt. jobs imandateded and made a law and that birth certificate and (may be passport?) designates one’s birth with caste and religion is imprinted toprove and be used for collegadmissionon and for Govt jobs, America/s Birtcertificatete or Passport does not have any space for “Religion, Caste or Ethnicityty or religion etc. like India has and hence I could notproveve I am a Christian,Brahmin or Dalit etc that this unknown,but ill-informed writer ascribes? 5) Apart from Jobs and college admissions,one can discriminate, any one for any reason, for wearing blue shirt totie or restaurants preventing Gandhiji entering the restaurant with no shirt & shoes, all are legal discrimination! Thus,each India could discriminate by not inviting other than his caste into his house, but hardly any one that I know of ever did it. Anyway,Jobs and Univ admissions do not have any discrimination like in India and that is why NO INDIAN including a Brahmin or Dalit ever returns to India unless thrown out? 6) On a lighter note, most Indian born parents wish their children married another Indian at least (caste no bar), but most American born Indians end up marrying non-Indians, (will get some statistics on this!) and whites for most part!!????????????

  15. Please read my novel, TOUCHED BY REDEEMING LOVE, just published in America in July 2018 about how a low caste “untouchable” boy was persecuted in India for being an Untouchable and for falling in love with a Brahmin girl. An American pastor redeems the Untouchable boy from persecution, poverty, and spiritual brokenness and loves this boy from a remote part of India like his own son. The pastor educates him in American and the Untouchable becomes a Christian pastor and rise to become the CEO of a religious organization and a business conglomerate.

    I was educated in America and lived here for over four decades. Yes, I have seen and experienced how Indians practice casteism even in America and put down and discriminate lower caste Indians. Some of those Indians who practice casteism are, unfortunately, the most BIGOTED people on earth. And they practice this bigotry shamelessly and with impunity. It has to be banned legislatively in America. Dr. Matthew Isaac, Author and Retired Associate Vice Chancellor, California

    • I have also written a novel, TOUCHED BY A PASTOR, about a christian pastor luring vulnerable boys into christianity and touching them innapropriately. The boy commits suicide and the vatican covers up the story. Its very similar to the Academy Award winning movie: SPOTLIGHT, only difference is that when the Americans have wised up to the ways of these pastors, the pastors move to India/Africa for carrying out their paedophilia.

  16. Mr. Kenneth, to eradicate caste based discrimination you can have 100% reservation on the basis of catse in USA. In addition you can pass strict law to prevent discrimination, whereby without any inquiry the accused can be sent to jail if there is a complaint against him for discrimination on the basis of caste….These two measures will help USA to develop faster, the way in which some Asian countries developed.
    PS: let’s hope that after passing that law, your subordinate does not file a FALSE COMPLAINT’ against you for discrimination. Because then you will have tough time in getting bail

  17. Caste system in the United States?? Shame on those Indians who migrated to this country they thought was free of all prejudicdes. Have you been to Baltimore or any city in the United States? Who sit in the shops~~~~~? and who sit on the floor in corridors? It is a divided country from every angle: money, colour, class, gender. India is a paradise compared to the United States. Unfortunately it got enslaved by the Muslims and then the British; and now Indians are confused; whether they are Hindus, Muslims or Brown-British. Hope that in coming years they would srecognise that they are all Indians, Hindians also called Bharat. So try to find out why! Explore your own past; the glorious one; not that under Muslim or British rule.

  18. This article no substance in it. It is just another attempt to make such allegations on Hinduism, it is clearly a conversion missionary’s act.

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