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What hindu were doing when muslims invading looting India. The rajput brahmins who tortured, looted raped murdeing dalits shudra. Why were so cowared the could not prevent invasision, lioting conversion of brahman, rajput and warrior caste hindus.
It was a treat to read this article. We need to hear more from accomplished historians like Ms. Thapar as part of our national discourse.
I am curious about her assertion that “There were no histories, of course, of India as a unified territory prior to colonial rule.” Did the empires of Chandragupta Maurya, Ashoka, the Guptas and the Mughals not bring together vast territories and diverse peoples of the Indian subcontinent? Even if they may not have encompassed all regions of India down to the very last one, they were no less in scale than the British empire in India. And did they not have a great cultural impact, and foster a sense of unity – maybe not unity with a Hindu or ‘Indian’ identity as we know it, but that of a set of peoples living under the rule of a singly mighty empire? One would like to hear her views.
This historians ( or distortians?) and her accomplices are morally unacceptable to common people of India. They better categorised their books under fictions!
News is that the current government is restructuring the curriculum which our kids study as of now,
I hope they do it ASAP
Because I don’t want Thappar to beat the dust thinking she and her ilk has monopolized Indian history textbooks,
India wasn’t unified before Invaders …….,my foot
I wonder who is changing what. I find that all religions in India practice their faith as freely as is done anywhere else in the world. Any violence is just that. Violent criminal activities. Live in the present not in the past. History is a perception. History is just another story. Historians are just story tellers with their version according to own perceptions and interpretation. Only the event is the truth. The event can’t be changed. History can be rewritten according to the perception of the teller. The truth can’t be changed.
Leftists are a bunch of people who are ashamed of their culture and identity. We hindus have let this crowd define our history. Time to throw into dustin the opinion and doctored history of this anti hindu crowd.
It’s a common sense to understand that no Muslim ruler came to India to spread Islam but to rule the country.. 700+ years they have ruled our country and if their intentions were to convert this country to Islamic it would have been easily done during these years. Today politicians through their fake IT cell are changing the facts and history just for political gains and fools are falling prey to them.
Bro jazia tax demolished temple who did that even if they want they cannot change a major chunk of religions
Abdul, They might have told you that they only came to rule. Not to convert kafirs into Islam. Abdul, How did you convert to Islam ??!! Go and read history books written by the invaders themselves.
Muslim rulers came for mainly plunder, capturing slaves and economic benefit of ruling over rich country. Spread of Islam was fringe benefit. But they did not want too many converts because that would reduce income from Jazia tax.
If they didn’t want to spread islam, then why did they impose jizya tax and destroy many hindu temples. They imposed islam in India, but they were unsuccessful.
Yeah!! History tells us wherver muslims ruler(idiots) invaded, they ve changed the cultural aspects of that land and converted the whole population into a 72 hoor ideology!!
Dont rant your madrasachapp learnings everywhere. We know muslims rulers(idiots) could not covert hindus because of strong philospohical base of this land.
Thousands of temples were destroyed, Nalanda university was butchered!! Your mulla historian can fool only idiots!
The day your community will accept the historical truths, historical blunders- non muslim communities will accept you with broad hands. But you dont want that. You want abba turkey’s recognition. Not ours.
Since i am from northeast, and living in a muslim locality,i know your community better then anyone. I know how my uncle family was threatened by only two families of peacefools and too in our land !!
Yeah!! History tells us wherver muslims ruler(idiots) invaded, they ve changed the cultural aspects of that land and converted the whole population into a 72 hoor ideology!!
Dont rant your madrasachapp learnings everywhere. We know muslims rulers(idiots) could not covert hindus because of strong philospohical base of this land.
Thousands of temples were destroyed, Nalanda university was butchered!! Your mulla historian can fool only idiots!
The day your community will accept the historical truths, historical blunders- non muslim communities will accept you with broad hands. But you dont want that. You want abba turkey’s recognition. Not ours.
Since i am from northeast, and living in a muslim locality,i know your community better then anyone. I know how my uncle family was threatened by only two families of peacefools and too in our land !!
Muslims were like critters. Locusts. They destroyed everything they had so they moved to New lands. Bloody chors. Cowards.
That Hinduism survived was inspite of all efforts of muslim invaders. They tried like hell but we persevered.
Who cares what you moo-slums could hv been done bla bla bla??? The fact is destruction of something temple to destruction of nalanda university is a fact that you people with your degraded mindset can’t tolerate other religion…It was a truth then as it is a truth now…700+ years of rule converted many as we see Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan are burning examples and the fact that islamists never able to rule the whole indian subcontinent, is another thing.
And as of today’s political need, well it is simple…Pakistan separated on the basis of religion, so should hv india because india is hindu majority….It hv to or those who oppose us and their followers will face consequences
Are Terra naam Abdul hai na kitni history padhi hai tune pata chal raha hai tere illogical comment se your islamic rulers were not able to convert us not because they were secular but because they were impotent to do so shivaji maharaj ,maharana pratap,etc aur agar conversions nahi karne the to mandir kyu tode hospitals banane ke liye ?
So if they didn’t come to convert then why kashmiri pandits went running to guru Tegh Bahadur, and why was he be headed, please read Sikhism history…there are many instances of forced conversions….and also as per Romilas version Hindus kept muslims under siege…..
Ok while going through your comment I encountered a huge contradiction..i.e you said they didn’t came to spread Islam but then you said that they wanted to make it an islamic country… How can someone make a country islamic without spreading the Islam???…also you said they were not converting ..are you fckn serious first read some histoy bro … people accepted death rather than conversion in India
It is not correct, Muslim invaded India and during their invasion, they damaged many Hindu temples, many Muslim rulers forced Hindus to convert Islam, so Mrs Thapar ‘ s statement is not correct. She is a defective historians. She recorded her books many defective and wrong statements about India and on Hindus.
The Indian History Congress and it’s novelists like Thapar are soo good the can stand toe to toe with fiction playrights of any generation.
A muslim writing in English….?? Strange… Don’t use the language of kafirs….use your own language….allah will punish u….
Whitewashing ?huh?
Wanna talk about Gazwa E Hind??
LAL salaam??true Muslims will try to vanish the community or culture,where they are conquering…Akbar was a secularist… thanks to flying Spaghetti monster…he wasn’t a true Muslim.
Just look at Pakistan and Bangladesh 73 years thence what is the % muslim ruler after muslim ruler have written namas on what they have done the acts bytodays standards are barbaric at minimal.. when the author says ‘trained eye’ she means ideological. Yet the perversion persists people who can’t show mirror to entrenched barbaric behaviour preach tolerance and peace. Guess time to bin peaceful rule treated well no violence.
आपके कमेंट में सबसे शानदार बात ( ruled our country ) नहीं तो ज्यादातर लोग ये समझते है वे उनके साथ बाहर से आए है
? ?…. Yes, they did no conversions and spread peace by destroying royal heritage of this country… What you said “if they came here to convert”….. There was a constant resistance from the people. You can’t deny the facts of the history….. Don’t wander between the left and right.
You should also have some common sense that muslims wanted to convert us but we were strong and they still continue to spread their religion but can’t take big steps until they becomenearly40% of total population so they can’t do much now but surely will
They tried their level best but hindu belief system is so strong in India, the Sanathana Shema, it is not possible to uproot it by a few generations of Muslim rule & efforts to convert
But in places like Kashmir, Kerala, Hyderabad they have gained majority status or gained sizable numbers which can not be ignored.
Hinduism has stood test of time for centuries and against many religions like Buddism, Jainism, Sikhism etc . So what effect Muslim rulers can have !
A foreword by Swara Bhaskar. That itself is a credential
she exposes her hypocrisy and duel standards .
I think she needs to revisit Various records of mugals if she believes . Please don’t teach wrong history . You are shameless .
I think one day she will prove that Hindus have invaded indian subcontinent ?
Without mentioning 7 times destruction of Somnath temple . She has fabricated that rulers used to destroy temple inorder to show their strength .
Zajia tax
Why there is no big temple in North India unlike what we see in South ?
Have you see the temple of Kashi Vishwanath which is itself a prove ?
If you think Muslims rulers were so good and peaceful as they self proclaimed ? Then why zorestrian had to flew to India ?
Why Islam does not accept other religion as equal so as early Christianity under the chruch rule ?
Sri ram temple and Krishna Janam Bhumi , I think you have not seen yet ?
When Muslims accept and feel proud on invasion on Jerusalem and they modified synagogue into mosque ? Then you fear to accept when their own historians accept ?
Why don’t we study our own Heroes who sacrificed their life for us like Raja Dahir Sen and so many others ?
Do they not deserve it to be the part of NCERT textbook ?
Most of times you don’t make sense with your own history
I have alot to say but my English is little weak and I am commerce students ….
Somnath temple was sacked 7 times, Nalanda University was set ablaze and burnt to ashes in 3 days, Kashi Vishwanath temple was demolished and the sacred linga was placed at the top of Gyan Vapi mosque, vridhavan was desecrated, Madurai Meenakshi temple was sacked… All by the invading marauders whose sole aim was to subjugate the local Hindus and impose their theocratic ideas. They were also rewarded by the then caliphs for the merciless conversion and slaughter of the indigenous population.. So, by what name does these so called Historians wish to call such events ? Its a pathetic ostrich mentality that has severely eroded our national pride and self respect.
Pseudo secular historians have distorted our history. No actions were left unresorted to convert and subjugate Hindus. These cruel invaders and their faith succeeded in other countries but failed to convert india completely because of d inherent resilience of Hindus . Yet considerable damage was done . Historians created promoted and prompted by Congress and our early education ministers have presented a false narrative of muslim rule of 700 years . Yes they destroyed our culture and desicrated our symbols. Your comments are factually correct.
Well different kings have invaded other kings. For example Shangais Khan of Mongolia invaded Europe and Asia which covers a large number of Islamic countries. But he was not a Muslim.
Most of southeast Asia was pagan in religion and not Hindus in ancient times. Then a man from Bihar – Buddha spread his religion to most of Asia.
Well most people in China have no religion. Most people in Europe have no religion.
Most interestingly Islam has caused most harm in their own countries.
The Gita itself preaches against rituals. But guides towards duties called Karma.
Indian love their festivels but would like to stay away from division and politics because it in not economically beneficial.
Romila Thapar is a fake pseudo historian who created a false history of India for the Congress and was rewarded with Padma awards and suitable housing by the Congress. I am so glad that Romila has obviously lost her marbles and made this false and untrue statement that “Muslims enslaved Hindus for last 1000 yrs is historically unacceptable” shows that she believes Muhammed Ghori, Muhammed bin Tughlaq and Babar were Hindus!!!
Romila is so much in love with Muslims that she does not want them to be the “bad guys” and so she is willing to lie convincingly, proving she is an opportunistic and biased historian. Romila has been so used to creating Jihadist history for the Gandhis that she now makes this ridiculous claim that Hindus enslaved Hindus!!! And I should know as I am an alumnus of JNU and I attended her monotonous and boring lectures in JNU. She is neither a good teacher nor a truthful historian. Thanks.
It’s unfair to comment against a noted historian like Romilaji, she has ocean of knowledge.
People like you without any clear understanding can’t soil the ocean with handful of mud.
So Maratha empire or Rajputs serving the Mughals are all lies
Exactly it was true
Was romila thapar denying enslavment of hindus by muslim inavders and rulers in india when they imposed jizya tax (imposed on non believers) and temples were destoyed at will like kashi vishwanath was destroyed by aurangzeb.
I’m happy to read the heading of the book. The slogan which is synonymous with the Left. The heading makes it very obvious as what the contents in the book could be. Hope it sells
It’s true, Mahabharata is not as old as you think it is
Romila is the biggest curse for the suffered Hindu society it is even more worse than jallianwalabag holocaust to rewrite the history i think historian duty is to record and write the past but she always writes only her assumptions and anti Hindu claims these people are thousands of times dangerous than Corona
The issue of communal rivalry is prime matter here in India at present. We are not indigenous but heterogeneous… The fact that every Indian needs to understand. We believe in unity in diversity. Why should we search for who is original natives.. After all no one… the history is proving that no one single group of people is so called natives…
Kindly look at our differences and try to be united as nation to go forward , not to go back , searching which can devide us into pieces … And finally destroy everyone of us.
Very mature outlook. This is what we all need to think. If we look into history too much and manipulate it for petty gains we will be history soon.
राष्ट्रवादियों का सामना किसी कांग्रेस, सपा, बसपा, धर्मनिरपेक्ष पार्टियों और उनके समर्थकों या अल्पसंख्यकों से नहीं बल्कि एक ऐसी धूर्त विदेशी विचारधारा से है जो धन बल,निशाचर माया, कुतर्क आदि से सुसज्जित होकर विभिन्न तथाकथित सेक्युलर नेताओं, तथाकथित गरीब रक्षकों,नास्तिकों, फ़िल्मों, नाटकों, वेब सीरीज,संचार माध्यमों, सेलिब्रिटी लोगों,आधुनिक तकनीकों,शैक्षिक संस्थाओं, तथाकथित विद्वानों,विदेशियों,आतंकवादियों,विदेशी खुफिया एजेंसियों,जातिगत मतभेदों को अपना हथियार बना कर भारतीय संस्कृति, सभ्यता,एकता, अखंडता,राष्ट्रीयता को निरंतर निशाना बनाकर उस पर चोट पर चोट करती रहती है।
Her line of argument doesn’t lead to the conclusion and the headline. It seems enforced. The history of Islamic rule is fraught with the incidents of mass oppression of Hindus. From Punjab to Karnataka, there are live examples that can be seen till today. She is an erudite professor but has an agenda of rubbishing Islamic aggression on the Hindus. Unfortunate!
The title is sufficient you need not read the article.
Muslims came to Bharat with sword in one hand and Koran in another; take this or this they said. How they manged to establish their rule in Bhaarat by trickery and cheating is known.
How many temples they looted and destroyed, how many temples they converted into Mosques we all know.
Will Durrant writes in his “History of civilisation,” Islamic savagery in India is the bloodiest in human history.
This woman fake historian tries justify Islamic brutality. If India lost war with Ghajanavi is it not due to such traitors?
I do accept that yes Muslims did commit atrocities when they waged wars, destroyed temples as is the norm of war those days, some of their rulers did impose jaziya , but to say that they systematically persecuted Hindus with religious sword and forced conversion, it’s unacceptable as their rule is driven more by political gains than religious. For about 700 years they ruled and still they are a small minority group its unthinkable , had they ruthlessly waged religious wars , half if not more of the Indian population today would be Muslims
Yes that is Kashmir Pandit “TRUTH’. it is like nonsense of Kashmiriyat. You guys for your own self interest did not allow Kashmiri Muslims to reconvert back to Hinduism in Gulab Singh’s time. So Muslims paid you guys back by kicking you out.
It’s true, few Muslim emperors were good like Akbar but others were cruel, killed thousands Hindus & destroyed lots of Hindu Temples which is historically proved.
Ashok Kumar Saha Sir, please revisit your information about Akbar. He was no less a killer of kaafirs.
I think these nuts are cowards of highest kind,they don’t have guts enough to talk about Islamic version of laws & oppressive culture of men on women.
And print wasting time focussing on unnecessary person who only knows how to create alienation.
If they really want to established healthy society than talk sense.
Talk about what is in quaran
Artefacts of Indus valley period 7509 BC were reported in Haryana & findings appeared in most reputed scientific journal of world, Nature. But author describe it a s newspaper report. Further date was assigned by using carbon dating at IIT Khadagpur. Hence India valley civilization is oldest. Further historian failed miserably to explain the advantage of vedic literature of 5000 BC & earlier which explains objective if human life, salvation, Moksh. Only well developed society ascribes such view.
The extent of Romila thapar’s liberal view is focussed upon JNU… Pakistan …Muslim…. Jinnah… Jawaharlal Nehru etc….
What Romila said was true as everything starts with an ideology….. Where Freedom was an idea and that became true in 1947…. Just like Romila Thapars Dad chose to engage in sex with her mother without a condom and Romila was born and is trying byo fuck the nation with her imaginary lame dick…
It’s only a matter of time until JNU falls in place and stop shitting around or be closed….
I wish Romulus Thapar would keep quiet. She is senile. Our history has been tampered by the British so much that what we read is concocted by the British. So it will be better for Madam Thapar to keep her opinions to hetself
The fact that there is no comment here is itself a resounding comment, on of the complete rejection of Smt Romilla Thapar and her version of history. No comment means she is irrelevant. Even someone like Shivam Vij or Zainab Sikandar gets some response. It is her Karma that she saw all her brainwashing efforts come to naught in her own lifetime.
History is being rewritten now. Apparently and unfortunately it is the government’s perogative. Which it shouldn’t be. So who is to judge what was or is our history? Now we have a Nehruvian historical viewpoint and one which is being rewritten now. Romila Thapar was one of the those appointees who fashioned nehruvian history for generations along with the likes of Maulana Azad,Humayun Kabir and fakhruddin Ahmed. What then can you expect from a bunch of leftists an communists? And we have a book reiterating that viewpoint with a foreword by Swara bhaskar !!!? Thanks but no thanks . Enough is enough.
nobody is saying muslims enslaved hindus for last 1000 yrs… its this conscious and deliberate attempt to put up a false argument ( a strawman argument) in order to bury the hindu iconoclasm by muslim rulers makes thapar irrelevant or “dinosaur”. so why didn’t ram guha join u to write history books ?
You are not a historian Madam. You are a politician of doubtful intellectual integrity. Please do not propagate falsehood. Posterity will judge you otherwise. You will not be taken seriously.
India is a vast country. To base Indian civilizational origins to discoveries in the NORTH is a bit stupid and idiotic. If there has been civilizational continuity where people have lived continuously there will be nothing to find. These theories are just that. There is nothing concrete to prove. This is not exact science where one can provide unquestionable evidence and proof to back the theory.
Muslims and Christians are not foreigners because we say so. They claim to be so. This is not a question for Hindu’s to answer. This is a question for the Muslims and Christians to answer. Do they see themselves as Indian converts or do they see themselves as Arabs and Europeans in India. Essentially Hyphenated Identity. This Hyphenated Identity works in the US as there are no natives. It may not in India. It does not work in France as we recently learnt.
Let us look at the word Hindu… It is not found in any of our own description of who we are… So for Romila and the rest of us to contiue using the term to describe ourselves is a bit out dated. We need a different narrative and description based on our Civilizational history. This does not start as Romila has maintained with the Mughals.
This will cause all the Hindutva freaks to freak out !
The Hindutva leader Savarkar invented the Two Nation Theory, and they followed the racialist supremacist ideas of the Nazis – and they feel that is Indian !
Who milked the Partition of India? Was it Savarkar?
The fact is Syed Ahmed first proposed the 2 nation theory in late 19th century even before Veer sawarkar was born.
This statement is an example of flawed historical learning as advanced by romilla and her ilk.
prove it, ill prove otherwise
An example of flawed history.First learn the difference between nation and state,then read what Savarkar said.Jinnah was the first to propose a separate state.If you are talking about nation then it was first propsed by medival rulers and in modern times by founder of AMU Sir Syed Ahmed Khan.
Rasgolla Ji, have you h ard of th Ali Brothers. Do a googl search at least, that was th idiot who first propounded the Theory in Lahore almost 2 decades before Savarkar opined his theory that Muslims will never as a mass want to be part of any nation . They will always uphold their adherence to that medival looter Mohammed.
Various theories were put about on the origins of the Aryans.
What is the need. The fact is Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, assorted tribal faith classified as Heathen, Pagan or Kafir faiths were in India thousand years, if not more, before Muslims came.
The attempt by assorted secularists to argue that Aryans came from outside India is akin to many white supremacists in North America trying to claim Caucasoid people were in North America earlier based on few Caucasoid skeletons found and common view that North American Indians came from Asia. The whole attempt is to delegitimize North American Indians as first people in North America. Secularists in India are trying the same trick to delegitimize Hindus as first people and put them in same category as Muslims. it is like n infiltrator or squatter has same right to title of land as owner of the land.
Of course humanity came long after world was created. So the people who came earlier and has record of their possession, when Johnny-come-lately, are indigenous. Latecomers who assimilated are also accepted as indigenous as there is no visible sign foreignness except by racists.
Hindus include Arya, Australoid, Greek, Scythians, Huns etc. people.
There were no histories, of course, of India as a unified territory prior to colonial rule.
Is Romila Thapar a historian? Looks like there is lot to be desired in her knowledge of History.
I wonder whether she heard the name Chandragupta { Sandrocotus to Greeks], Ashoka of Maurya dynasty and what areas were part of their empire? Did she hear name Gupta dynasty and Samudra Gupta?
May be she should go back to college to relearn the history. May be this ghastly woman is suffering from Alzheimer’s Disease or mental dementia.
This is a silly point that Ms. Thapar makes. Hindus were enslaved by the Muslims about this there is absolutely no doubt. Hindus had no citizenship rights. They had to pay taxes for being Hindus. They did not have the freedom to practise their religion in public. It was Tilak maharaj who urged Hindus to come out of their shell and practise religion in public in the 1890s. The fear that Hindus had is responsible for us not seeing a single Hindu haveli, bungalow, house of a grand scale from Mughal or Sultanate times. All such grand houses are of Muslims. Or in the Rajputana where Hindus ruled. Even though Hindus were the richer community in India. Muslims discriminated against Hindus in the same manner as the Europeans discriminated against Jews. Hindu places of worship were routinely destroyed by Muslims. Enslavement of the Hindus is this that Hindu women had to take on the purdah once Muslims began to rule north India. These are simple unvarnished facts of history which Ms. Thapar has been trying to hide for the past six decades. Fortunately for us today we can read about all this through primary documents which are available on archive.org and the National Digital Library of India. Ever since these resources became available we do not need Romila Thapar to tell us about our history. Lal Salaam to the internet.
Utter non sense article full of frustration and hate against a particular targeted community. Britishers enslaved Indians for more than a century and looted country wealth to maximum, today no one talk about them .Infact now we go to their country in greed and make enslaved to ourselves. Most of the countries in the world is inhabitate by settlers from outsiders .India is no axception. What a ridiculous thinking imposed on peaceful and hormonal human existence.
it is the Turks madam – Indian Muslims – converts were completely left of any power equations.
No education nothing. –
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When the East India Company came to India (Bengal) the reestablished the native language i.e., Bengali in 1838 as the official language – while abolishing Arabic and Persian. The condition of Bengali Muslims was worst even compared to the pagans and that too, after 600 years of Turki rule.
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The Turks were dacoits – they just looted, build their palaces and lived a grand life…..while the natives – Muslims natives ensured their legitimacy – as possibly the commander of faithful, and pagan natives – looted for the riches.
Ms. Thapar has posited her writing on the past history , going back to ages , which are far and before most of the current tninking.. For the basic question, did we exist as India as we know today, is a very tough one to answer.I think it is generally agreed that it is the british who did the honours.
We can debate as to who the real indian is . but there will be as many naswers as the people debating it. It is here that the philosophical and politico social leanings come into play. If you were to hear the islamists, they would claim the whole of indian sub continent as islamic and if we were to hear the hindu/RSS side, they have their own definition of Bharat varsh. The idea of a nationalist narrative therefore flows from the idea of nationhood.
Once this is accepted interpretations of past history automatically flows. be it rama raja, or an islamic ,shariat based rule of law.
again the same past deeds and misdeeds , when looked through the prism of exploited and exploiters, we get a marxist narrative and a british narrative.
Partition of india based on religious basis, if we in the residual part accepted it or not is immaterial. has drawn the lines very sharpely
So a religious bent to the past narrative is inescapable. here we are not helped by available histry of the past. each is a narrative of either the conquerers or, rulers . The cheek by jowl existence of the mosque in Mathura, kashi and the babri issue only reinforced the narrative from the hindu point of view..
The universalisation of political islam has also not helped.
At the end of the day each narrative is only a push in the political arena for space.here institutions like JNU have not helped. they hve championed only an acceptable narrative suiting the left and islam.
The debate is a work in process and will evolve.
The Contribution of JNU, his professor, and “eminent historians” of her ilk has continued the colonial discourse of Indian history. These were the masters of all text books for over two generations. They have so thoroughly distorted the Indian history that we do not know facts from fiction. These historians have successfully whitewashed the atrocities committed under the Muslim rule of India. At least a marxist historian like DD Kosambi was forthright enough to write about intolerance of muslim rulers towards the Hindus. These people have expunged all such source data which proved the cruelty of Muslim rules. Now who cares if this old professor finds it “unacceptable”?
How unfortunate that a novelist ended up writing history.
Deeply flawed research, premeditated bias and looking everything from colonial lenses, she has done great disservice to historians as a profession.
She was at the forefront denying the existence of temple beneath Babri community center. Discounting evidence from asi, court appointed excavation. Yet the evidence to the contrary till this date she continues to peddle lies.
She was the one who made the Islamic invasion and subsequent enslavement virtuous. Pick up ncert history books and you will find paean of Mughal front and back while plunder atrocities jihad of Mughal swept under the rug.
Her invasion theory and it its subsequent echoing has a fundamental flaw.
If it were an invasion or migration the culture of the invading or migrating race would be prevalent where they originated from and where the finally reached. On this basis alone AIT/AMT can be debunked.
I can go on and on and with facts on my side I can debate this novelist without being historian.
Making her emeritus is a joke and is a symptom of our colonial enslavement and making heroes out of murderers plunderers rapists and ex tooling these suffering as virtuous and resilience.
We don’t need to have enemies when we have people like her setting the narrative and selling fiction as historical fact.
This article reminds me, how these ’eminent’ historians used to rebutt Arun Shourie . Telling the truth matters.. not what outcomes it leads to; be it national harmony or communalism. That India was not a political state, is true but it certainly was a civilization. But of course our common sense is invalid, only trained historians know the truth- They display the same condescending attitude they accuse others of.
This is bull shit and destroying reality……………Everyone knows who enslaved whom…….Why do you distort that
You cannot wake up a sleep acting person. Romila is one. She must be called a politician, not a historian.
What hindu were doing when muslims invading looting India. The rajput brahmins who tortured, looted raped murdeing dalits shudra. Why were so cowared the could not prevent invasision, lioting conversion of brahman, rajput and warrior caste hindus.
It was a treat to read this article. We need to hear more from accomplished historians like Ms. Thapar as part of our national discourse.
I am curious about her assertion that “There were no histories, of course, of India as a unified territory prior to colonial rule.” Did the empires of Chandragupta Maurya, Ashoka, the Guptas and the Mughals not bring together vast territories and diverse peoples of the Indian subcontinent? Even if they may not have encompassed all regions of India down to the very last one, they were no less in scale than the British empire in India. And did they not have a great cultural impact, and foster a sense of unity – maybe not unity with a Hindu or ‘Indian’ identity as we know it, but that of a set of peoples living under the rule of a singly mighty empire? One would like to hear her views.
This historians ( or distortians?) and her accomplices are morally unacceptable to common people of India. They better categorised their books under fictions!
Is this the historian , who said Yudhisthira was inspired by Ashoka to abdicate throne and take sannyasi?
News is that the current government is restructuring the curriculum which our kids study as of now,
I hope they do it ASAP
Because I don’t want Thappar to beat the dust thinking she and her ilk has monopolized Indian history textbooks,
India wasn’t unified before Invaders …….,my foot
Hogwash!
I wonder who is changing what. I find that all religions in India practice their faith as freely as is done anywhere else in the world. Any violence is just that. Violent criminal activities. Live in the present not in the past. History is a perception. History is just another story. Historians are just story tellers with their version according to own perceptions and interpretation. Only the event is the truth. The event can’t be changed. History can be rewritten according to the perception of the teller. The truth can’t be changed.
Romila Thapar is a dhimmi.
Dhimmis are the reason why Nuslims were able to conquer, incade and rule India.
Leftists are a bunch of people who are ashamed of their culture and identity. We hindus have let this crowd define our history. Time to throw into dustin the opinion and doctored history of this anti hindu crowd.
It’s a common sense to understand that no Muslim ruler came to India to spread Islam but to rule the country.. 700+ years they have ruled our country and if their intentions were to convert this country to Islamic it would have been easily done during these years. Today politicians through their fake IT cell are changing the facts and history just for political gains and fools are falling prey to them.
Bro jazia tax demolished temple who did that even if they want they cannot change a major chunk of religions
Abdul, They might have told you that they only came to rule. Not to convert kafirs into Islam. Abdul, How did you convert to Islam ??!! Go and read history books written by the invaders themselves.
Muslim rulers came for mainly plunder, capturing slaves and economic benefit of ruling over rich country. Spread of Islam was fringe benefit. But they did not want too many converts because that would reduce income from Jazia tax.
If they didn’t want to spread islam, then why did they impose jizya tax and destroy many hindu temples. They imposed islam in India, but they were unsuccessful.
Yeah!! History tells us wherver muslims ruler(idiots) invaded, they ve changed the cultural aspects of that land and converted the whole population into a 72 hoor ideology!!
Dont rant your madrasachapp learnings everywhere. We know muslims rulers(idiots) could not covert hindus because of strong philospohical base of this land.
Thousands of temples were destroyed, Nalanda university was butchered!! Your mulla historian can fool only idiots!
The day your community will accept the historical truths, historical blunders- non muslim communities will accept you with broad hands. But you dont want that. You want abba turkey’s recognition. Not ours.
Since i am from northeast, and living in a muslim locality,i know your community better then anyone. I know how my uncle family was threatened by only two families of peacefools and too in our land !!
Yeah!! History tells us wherver muslims ruler(idiots) invaded, they ve changed the cultural aspects of that land and converted the whole population into a 72 hoor ideology!!
Dont rant your madrasachapp learnings everywhere. We know muslims rulers(idiots) could not covert hindus because of strong philospohical base of this land.
Thousands of temples were destroyed, Nalanda university was butchered!! Your mulla historian can fool only idiots!
The day your community will accept the historical truths, historical blunders- non muslim communities will accept you with broad hands. But you dont want that. You want abba turkey’s recognition. Not ours.
Since i am from northeast, and living in a muslim locality,i know your community better then anyone. I know how my uncle family was threatened by only two families of peacefools and too in our land !!
Muslims were like critters. Locusts. They destroyed everything they had so they moved to New lands. Bloody chors. Cowards.
That Hinduism survived was inspite of all efforts of muslim invaders. They tried like hell but we persevered.
Who cares what you moo-slums could hv been done bla bla bla??? The fact is destruction of something temple to destruction of nalanda university is a fact that you people with your degraded mindset can’t tolerate other religion…It was a truth then as it is a truth now…700+ years of rule converted many as we see Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan are burning examples and the fact that islamists never able to rule the whole indian subcontinent, is another thing.
And as of today’s political need, well it is simple…Pakistan separated on the basis of religion, so should hv india because india is hindu majority….It hv to or those who oppose us and their followers will face consequences
Are Terra naam Abdul hai na kitni history padhi hai tune pata chal raha hai tere illogical comment se your islamic rulers were not able to convert us not because they were secular but because they were impotent to do so shivaji maharaj ,maharana pratap,etc aur agar conversions nahi karne the to mandir kyu tode hospitals banane ke liye ?
So if they didn’t come to convert then why kashmiri pandits went running to guru Tegh Bahadur, and why was he be headed, please read Sikhism history…there are many instances of forced conversions….and also as per Romilas version Hindus kept muslims under siege…..
Ok while going through your comment I encountered a huge contradiction..i.e you said they didn’t came to spread Islam but then you said that they wanted to make it an islamic country… How can someone make a country islamic without spreading the Islam???…also you said they were not converting ..are you fckn serious first read some histoy bro … people accepted death rather than conversion in India
It is not correct, Muslim invaded India and during their invasion, they damaged many Hindu temples, many Muslim rulers forced Hindus to convert Islam, so Mrs Thapar ‘ s statement is not correct. She is a defective historians. She recorded her books many defective and wrong statements about India and on Hindus.
The Indian History Congress and it’s novelists like Thapar are soo good the can stand toe to toe with fiction playrights of any generation.
A muslim writing in English….?? Strange… Don’t use the language of kafirs….use your own language….allah will punish u….
Whitewashing ?huh?
Wanna talk about Gazwa E Hind??
LAL salaam??true Muslims will try to vanish the community or culture,where they are conquering…Akbar was a secularist… thanks to flying Spaghetti monster…he wasn’t a true Muslim.
Just look at Pakistan and Bangladesh 73 years thence what is the % muslim ruler after muslim ruler have written namas on what they have done the acts bytodays standards are barbaric at minimal.. when the author says ‘trained eye’ she means ideological. Yet the perversion persists people who can’t show mirror to entrenched barbaric behaviour preach tolerance and peace. Guess time to bin peaceful rule treated well no violence.
आपके कमेंट में सबसे शानदार बात ( ruled our country ) नहीं तो ज्यादातर लोग ये समझते है वे उनके साथ बाहर से आए है
? ?…. Yes, they did no conversions and spread peace by destroying royal heritage of this country… What you said “if they came here to convert”….. There was a constant resistance from the people. You can’t deny the facts of the history….. Don’t wander between the left and right.
You should also have some common sense that muslims wanted to convert us but we were strong and they still continue to spread their religion but can’t take big steps until they becomenearly40% of total population so they can’t do much now but surely will
They tried their level best but hindu belief system is so strong in India, the Sanathana Shema, it is not possible to uproot it by a few generations of Muslim rule & efforts to convert
But in places like Kashmir, Kerala, Hyderabad they have gained majority status or gained sizable numbers which can not be ignored.
Hinduism has stood test of time for centuries and against many religions like Buddism, Jainism, Sikhism etc . So what effect Muslim rulers can have !
A foreword by Swara Bhaskar. That itself is a credential
she exposes her hypocrisy and duel standards .
I think she needs to revisit Various records of mugals if she believes . Please don’t teach wrong history . You are shameless .
I think one day she will prove that Hindus have invaded indian subcontinent ?
Without mentioning 7 times destruction of Somnath temple . She has fabricated that rulers used to destroy temple inorder to show their strength .
Zajia tax
Why there is no big temple in North India unlike what we see in South ?
Have you see the temple of Kashi Vishwanath which is itself a prove ?
If you think Muslims rulers were so good and peaceful as they self proclaimed ? Then why zorestrian had to flew to India ?
Why Islam does not accept other religion as equal so as early Christianity under the chruch rule ?
Sri ram temple and Krishna Janam Bhumi , I think you have not seen yet ?
When Muslims accept and feel proud on invasion on Jerusalem and they modified synagogue into mosque ? Then you fear to accept when their own historians accept ?
Why don’t we study our own Heroes who sacrificed their life for us like Raja Dahir Sen and so many others ?
Do they not deserve it to be the part of NCERT textbook ?
Most of times you don’t make sense with your own history
I have alot to say but my English is little weak and I am commerce students ….
Somnath temple was sacked 7 times, Nalanda University was set ablaze and burnt to ashes in 3 days, Kashi Vishwanath temple was demolished and the sacred linga was placed at the top of Gyan Vapi mosque, vridhavan was desecrated, Madurai Meenakshi temple was sacked… All by the invading marauders whose sole aim was to subjugate the local Hindus and impose their theocratic ideas. They were also rewarded by the then caliphs for the merciless conversion and slaughter of the indigenous population.. So, by what name does these so called Historians wish to call such events ? Its a pathetic ostrich mentality that has severely eroded our national pride and self respect.
Pseudo secular historians have distorted our history. No actions were left unresorted to convert and subjugate Hindus. These cruel invaders and their faith succeeded in other countries but failed to convert india completely because of d inherent resilience of Hindus . Yet considerable damage was done . Historians created promoted and prompted by Congress and our early education ministers have presented a false narrative of muslim rule of 700 years . Yes they destroyed our culture and desicrated our symbols. Your comments are factually correct.
Well different kings have invaded other kings. For example Shangais Khan of Mongolia invaded Europe and Asia which covers a large number of Islamic countries. But he was not a Muslim.
Most of southeast Asia was pagan in religion and not Hindus in ancient times. Then a man from Bihar – Buddha spread his religion to most of Asia.
Well most people in China have no religion. Most people in Europe have no religion.
Most interestingly Islam has caused most harm in their own countries.
The Gita itself preaches against rituals. But guides towards duties called Karma.
Indian love their festivels but would like to stay away from division and politics because it in not economically beneficial.
Romila Thapar is a fake pseudo historian who created a false history of India for the Congress and was rewarded with Padma awards and suitable housing by the Congress. I am so glad that Romila has obviously lost her marbles and made this false and untrue statement that “Muslims enslaved Hindus for last 1000 yrs is historically unacceptable” shows that she believes Muhammed Ghori, Muhammed bin Tughlaq and Babar were Hindus!!!
Romila is so much in love with Muslims that she does not want them to be the “bad guys” and so she is willing to lie convincingly, proving she is an opportunistic and biased historian. Romila has been so used to creating Jihadist history for the Gandhis that she now makes this ridiculous claim that Hindus enslaved Hindus!!! And I should know as I am an alumnus of JNU and I attended her monotonous and boring lectures in JNU. She is neither a good teacher nor a truthful historian. Thanks.
It’s unfair to comment against a noted historian like Romilaji, she has ocean of knowledge.
People like you without any clear understanding can’t soil the ocean with handful of mud.
So Maratha empire or Rajputs serving the Mughals are all lies
Exactly it was true
Was romila thapar denying enslavment of hindus by muslim inavders and rulers in india when they imposed jizya tax (imposed on non believers) and temples were destoyed at will like kashi vishwanath was destroyed by aurangzeb.
I’m happy to read the heading of the book. The slogan which is synonymous with the Left. The heading makes it very obvious as what the contents in the book could be. Hope it sells
Thapar thinks Yudhisthira took inspiration from Ashoka, so much for eminent historian.
Quote your sources. Otherwise it,s just a rant.
It’s true, Mahabharata is not as old as you think it is
Romila is the biggest curse for the suffered Hindu society it is even more worse than jallianwalabag holocaust to rewrite the history i think historian duty is to record and write the past but she always writes only her assumptions and anti Hindu claims these people are thousands of times dangerous than Corona
The issue of communal rivalry is prime matter here in India at present. We are not indigenous but heterogeneous… The fact that every Indian needs to understand. We believe in unity in diversity. Why should we search for who is original natives.. After all no one… the history is proving that no one single group of people is so called natives…
Kindly look at our differences and try to be united as nation to go forward , not to go back , searching which can devide us into pieces … And finally destroy everyone of us.
Wanna talk about Gazwa E Hind??
Very mature outlook. This is what we all need to think. If we look into history too much and manipulate it for petty gains we will be history soon.
राष्ट्रवादियों का सामना किसी कांग्रेस, सपा, बसपा, धर्मनिरपेक्ष पार्टियों और उनके समर्थकों या अल्पसंख्यकों से नहीं बल्कि एक ऐसी धूर्त विदेशी विचारधारा से है जो धन बल,निशाचर माया, कुतर्क आदि से सुसज्जित होकर विभिन्न तथाकथित सेक्युलर नेताओं, तथाकथित गरीब रक्षकों,नास्तिकों, फ़िल्मों, नाटकों, वेब सीरीज,संचार माध्यमों, सेलिब्रिटी लोगों,आधुनिक तकनीकों,शैक्षिक संस्थाओं, तथाकथित विद्वानों,विदेशियों,आतंकवादियों,विदेशी खुफिया एजेंसियों,जातिगत मतभेदों को अपना हथियार बना कर भारतीय संस्कृति, सभ्यता,एकता, अखंडता,राष्ट्रीयता को निरंतर निशाना बनाकर उस पर चोट पर चोट करती रहती है।
Her line of argument doesn’t lead to the conclusion and the headline. It seems enforced. The history of Islamic rule is fraught with the incidents of mass oppression of Hindus. From Punjab to Karnataka, there are live examples that can be seen till today. She is an erudite professor but has an agenda of rubbishing Islamic aggression on the Hindus. Unfortunate!
Inki labh ke liye ye log kaam kar raha hai bas Inquilab ka koi sambandh nahi.
A group of morons come together to generate a consensus. The outcome will obviously be garbage!
Ignore this jokebook and move on.
The title is sufficient you need not read the article.
Muslims came to Bharat with sword in one hand and Koran in another; take this or this they said. How they manged to establish their rule in Bhaarat by trickery and cheating is known.
How many temples they looted and destroyed, how many temples they converted into Mosques we all know.
Will Durrant writes in his “History of civilisation,” Islamic savagery in India is the bloodiest in human history.
This woman fake historian tries justify Islamic brutality. If India lost war with Ghajanavi is it not due to such traitors?
I do accept that yes Muslims did commit atrocities when they waged wars, destroyed temples as is the norm of war those days, some of their rulers did impose jaziya , but to say that they systematically persecuted Hindus with religious sword and forced conversion, it’s unacceptable as their rule is driven more by political gains than religious. For about 700 years they ruled and still they are a small minority group its unthinkable , had they ruthlessly waged religious wars , half if not more of the Indian population today would be Muslims
Excellent and true with few takers for the latter
Yes that is Kashmir Pandit “TRUTH’. it is like nonsense of Kashmiriyat. You guys for your own self interest did not allow Kashmiri Muslims to reconvert back to Hinduism in Gulab Singh’s time. So Muslims paid you guys back by kicking you out.
It’s true, few Muslim emperors were good like Akbar but others were cruel, killed thousands Hindus & destroyed lots of Hindu Temples which is historically proved.
Ashok Kumar Saha Sir, please revisit your information about Akbar. He was no less a killer of kaafirs.
I think these nuts are cowards of highest kind,they don’t have guts enough to talk about Islamic version of laws & oppressive culture of men on women.
And print wasting time focussing on unnecessary person who only knows how to create alienation.
If they really want to established healthy society than talk sense.
Talk about what is in quaran
Only useless papers like the print will really print for this kind of anti national social engineers
Leftist का इतिहास रहा है जिस देश का खाते है उसी देश को बर्बाद करते है घटिया मानसिकता रही है इनकी अगर अच्छी होती तो सम्स्त भारत में जिनका वर्चस्व होता
Birth of pakisthan…Was a solution or a conspiracy
Artefacts of Indus valley period 7509 BC were reported in Haryana & findings appeared in most reputed scientific journal of world, Nature. But author describe it a s newspaper report. Further date was assigned by using carbon dating at IIT Khadagpur. Hence India valley civilization is oldest. Further historian failed miserably to explain the advantage of vedic literature of 5000 BC & earlier which explains objective if human life, salvation, Moksh. Only well developed society ascribes such view.
The extent of Romila thapar’s liberal view is focussed upon JNU… Pakistan …Muslim…. Jinnah… Jawaharlal Nehru etc….
What Romila said was true as everything starts with an ideology….. Where Freedom was an idea and that became true in 1947…. Just like Romila Thapars Dad chose to engage in sex with her mother without a condom and Romila was born and is trying byo fuck the nation with her imaginary lame dick…
It’s only a matter of time until JNU falls in place and stop shitting around or be closed….
I wish Romulus Thapar would keep quiet. She is senile. Our history has been tampered by the British so much that what we read is concocted by the British. So it will be better for Madam Thapar to keep her opinions to hetself
The fact that there is no comment here is itself a resounding comment, on of the complete rejection of Smt Romilla Thapar and her version of history. No comment means she is irrelevant. Even someone like Shivam Vij or Zainab Sikandar gets some response. It is her Karma that she saw all her brainwashing efforts come to naught in her own lifetime.
History is being rewritten now. Apparently and unfortunately it is the government’s perogative. Which it shouldn’t be. So who is to judge what was or is our history? Now we have a Nehruvian historical viewpoint and one which is being rewritten now. Romila Thapar was one of the those appointees who fashioned nehruvian history for generations along with the likes of Maulana Azad,Humayun Kabir and fakhruddin Ahmed. What then can you expect from a bunch of leftists an communists? And we have a book reiterating that viewpoint with a foreword by Swara bhaskar !!!? Thanks but no thanks . Enough is enough.
nobody is saying muslims enslaved hindus for last 1000 yrs… its this conscious and deliberate attempt to put up a false argument ( a strawman argument) in order to bury the hindu iconoclasm by muslim rulers makes thapar irrelevant or “dinosaur”. so why didn’t ram guha join u to write history books ?
You are not a historian Madam. You are a politician of doubtful intellectual integrity. Please do not propagate falsehood. Posterity will judge you otherwise. You will not be taken seriously.
India is a vast country. To base Indian civilizational origins to discoveries in the NORTH is a bit stupid and idiotic. If there has been civilizational continuity where people have lived continuously there will be nothing to find. These theories are just that. There is nothing concrete to prove. This is not exact science where one can provide unquestionable evidence and proof to back the theory.
Muslims and Christians are not foreigners because we say so. They claim to be so. This is not a question for Hindu’s to answer. This is a question for the Muslims and Christians to answer. Do they see themselves as Indian converts or do they see themselves as Arabs and Europeans in India. Essentially Hyphenated Identity. This Hyphenated Identity works in the US as there are no natives. It may not in India. It does not work in France as we recently learnt.
Let us look at the word Hindu… It is not found in any of our own description of who we are… So for Romila and the rest of us to contiue using the term to describe ourselves is a bit out dated. We need a different narrative and description based on our Civilizational history. This does not start as Romila has maintained with the Mughals.
This will cause all the Hindutva freaks to freak out !
The Hindutva leader Savarkar invented the Two Nation Theory, and they followed the racialist supremacist ideas of the Nazis – and they feel that is Indian !
Who milked the Partition of India? Was it Savarkar?
The fact is Syed Ahmed first proposed the 2 nation theory in late 19th century even before Veer sawarkar was born.
This statement is an example of flawed historical learning as advanced by romilla and her ilk.
prove it, ill prove otherwise
An example of flawed history.First learn the difference between nation and state,then read what Savarkar said.Jinnah was the first to propose a separate state.If you are talking about nation then it was first propsed by medival rulers and in modern times by founder of AMU Sir Syed Ahmed Khan.
Rasgolla Ji, have you h ard of th Ali Brothers. Do a googl search at least, that was th idiot who first propounded the Theory in Lahore almost 2 decades before Savarkar opined his theory that Muslims will never as a mass want to be part of any nation . They will always uphold their adherence to that medival looter Mohammed.
Various theories were put about on the origins of the Aryans.
What is the need. The fact is Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, assorted tribal faith classified as Heathen, Pagan or Kafir faiths were in India thousand years, if not more, before Muslims came.
The attempt by assorted secularists to argue that Aryans came from outside India is akin to many white supremacists in North America trying to claim Caucasoid people were in North America earlier based on few Caucasoid skeletons found and common view that North American Indians came from Asia. The whole attempt is to delegitimize North American Indians as first people in North America. Secularists in India are trying the same trick to delegitimize Hindus as first people and put them in same category as Muslims. it is like n infiltrator or squatter has same right to title of land as owner of the land.
Of course humanity came long after world was created. So the people who came earlier and has record of their possession, when Johnny-come-lately, are indigenous. Latecomers who assimilated are also accepted as indigenous as there is no visible sign foreignness except by racists.
Hindus include Arya, Australoid, Greek, Scythians, Huns etc. people.
There were no histories, of course, of India as a unified territory prior to colonial rule.
Is Romila Thapar a historian? Looks like there is lot to be desired in her knowledge of History.
I wonder whether she heard the name Chandragupta { Sandrocotus to Greeks], Ashoka of Maurya dynasty and what areas were part of their empire? Did she hear name Gupta dynasty and Samudra Gupta?
May be she should go back to college to relearn the history. May be this ghastly woman is suffering from Alzheimer’s Disease or mental dementia.
This is a silly point that Ms. Thapar makes. Hindus were enslaved by the Muslims about this there is absolutely no doubt. Hindus had no citizenship rights. They had to pay taxes for being Hindus. They did not have the freedom to practise their religion in public. It was Tilak maharaj who urged Hindus to come out of their shell and practise religion in public in the 1890s. The fear that Hindus had is responsible for us not seeing a single Hindu haveli, bungalow, house of a grand scale from Mughal or Sultanate times. All such grand houses are of Muslims. Or in the Rajputana where Hindus ruled. Even though Hindus were the richer community in India. Muslims discriminated against Hindus in the same manner as the Europeans discriminated against Jews. Hindu places of worship were routinely destroyed by Muslims. Enslavement of the Hindus is this that Hindu women had to take on the purdah once Muslims began to rule north India. These are simple unvarnished facts of history which Ms. Thapar has been trying to hide for the past six decades. Fortunately for us today we can read about all this through primary documents which are available on archive.org and the National Digital Library of India. Ever since these resources became available we do not need Romila Thapar to tell us about our history. Lal Salaam to the internet.
Utter non sense article full of frustration and hate against a particular targeted community. Britishers enslaved Indians for more than a century and looted country wealth to maximum, today no one talk about them .Infact now we go to their country in greed and make enslaved to ourselves. Most of the countries in the world is inhabitate by settlers from outsiders .India is no axception. What a ridiculous thinking imposed on peaceful and hormonal human existence.
it is the Turks madam – Indian Muslims – converts were completely left of any power equations.
No education nothing. –
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When the East India Company came to India (Bengal) the reestablished the native language i.e., Bengali in 1838 as the official language – while abolishing Arabic and Persian. The condition of Bengali Muslims was worst even compared to the pagans and that too, after 600 years of Turki rule.
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The Turks were dacoits – they just looted, build their palaces and lived a grand life…..while the natives – Muslims natives ensured their legitimacy – as possibly the commander of faithful, and pagan natives – looted for the riches.
Typical leftists prapoganda, tell me one thing who destroyed thousands of Hindu temples and ethnically cleansed Hindus in parts of India .
Ms. Thapar has posited her writing on the past history , going back to ages , which are far and before most of the current tninking.. For the basic question, did we exist as India as we know today, is a very tough one to answer.I think it is generally agreed that it is the british who did the honours.
We can debate as to who the real indian is . but there will be as many naswers as the people debating it. It is here that the philosophical and politico social leanings come into play. If you were to hear the islamists, they would claim the whole of indian sub continent as islamic and if we were to hear the hindu/RSS side, they have their own definition of Bharat varsh. The idea of a nationalist narrative therefore flows from the idea of nationhood.
Once this is accepted interpretations of past history automatically flows. be it rama raja, or an islamic ,shariat based rule of law.
again the same past deeds and misdeeds , when looked through the prism of exploited and exploiters, we get a marxist narrative and a british narrative.
Partition of india based on religious basis, if we in the residual part accepted it or not is immaterial. has drawn the lines very sharpely
So a religious bent to the past narrative is inescapable. here we are not helped by available histry of the past. each is a narrative of either the conquerers or, rulers . The cheek by jowl existence of the mosque in Mathura, kashi and the babri issue only reinforced the narrative from the hindu point of view..
The universalisation of political islam has also not helped.
At the end of the day each narrative is only a push in the political arena for space.here institutions like JNU have not helped. they hve championed only an acceptable narrative suiting the left and islam.
The debate is a work in process and will evolve.
The Contribution of JNU, his professor, and “eminent historians” of her ilk has continued the colonial discourse of Indian history. These were the masters of all text books for over two generations. They have so thoroughly distorted the Indian history that we do not know facts from fiction. These historians have successfully whitewashed the atrocities committed under the Muslim rule of India. At least a marxist historian like DD Kosambi was forthright enough to write about intolerance of muslim rulers towards the Hindus. These people have expunged all such source data which proved the cruelty of Muslim rules. Now who cares if this old professor finds it “unacceptable”?
How unfortunate that a novelist ended up writing history.
Deeply flawed research, premeditated bias and looking everything from colonial lenses, she has done great disservice to historians as a profession.
She was at the forefront denying the existence of temple beneath Babri community center. Discounting evidence from asi, court appointed excavation. Yet the evidence to the contrary till this date she continues to peddle lies.
She was the one who made the Islamic invasion and subsequent enslavement virtuous. Pick up ncert history books and you will find paean of Mughal front and back while plunder atrocities jihad of Mughal swept under the rug.
Her invasion theory and it its subsequent echoing has a fundamental flaw.
If it were an invasion or migration the culture of the invading or migrating race would be prevalent where they originated from and where the finally reached. On this basis alone AIT/AMT can be debunked.
I can go on and on and with facts on my side I can debate this novelist without being historian.
Making her emeritus is a joke and is a symptom of our colonial enslavement and making heroes out of murderers plunderers rapists and ex tooling these suffering as virtuous and resilience.
We don’t need to have enemies when we have people like her setting the narrative and selling fiction as historical fact.
This article reminds me, how these ’eminent’ historians used to rebutt Arun Shourie . Telling the truth matters.. not what outcomes it leads to; be it national harmony or communalism. That India was not a political state, is true but it certainly was a civilization. But of course our common sense is invalid, only trained historians know the truth- They display the same condescending attitude they accuse others of.
This is worse than holocaust denial. Unfortunately this fascist, liberal anti-Hindu rot runs very very deep.