Be it Hindutva ideologues condemning the wicked foreign invader or Imran Khan hailing Turkish imperial rule, both want to reinforce that going forward means going backward.
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Started in June last year, the digital platform has sold over 15,000 books so far. The site is now looking offer art & craft items that will carry the message of Hindutva.
Going through their Instagrams and dissecting their ‘statements’ is not the astute political commentary you think it is—it is time for us to back off from targeting 20-year-olds.
Companies are borrowing more from banks and public. Economists say high capacity utilisation & growing new orders could set stage for renewed investment push by India Inc.
New Delhi has, in past, too, objected to Chinese construction activities in Shaksgam Valley. Work in this strategic region gathered pace after the 2017 Doklam stand-off.
A theme has not yet emerged for BJP & people see lack of a contest, which makes it unexciting. For all these reasons, 2024 is turning out to be an unexpectedly theme-less election.
False equivalence – a typical tactic by Pakistanis to avoid taking full responsibility for their country’s failures by dragging India into the picture. Softens the harsh reality of while also satisfying the perennial objective of finding a way to bring India down.
Plus this author knows that he can get Indian readership by bringing India into the picture, whose market for readership far outstrips Pakistan’s market.
Pakistanis have never gotten over the fact that India has succeeded as a country, outpaced them and even defeated them multiple times militarily despite not being a Muslim society, while their zealous embrace of Islam has so far failed to deliver national greatness. Worse, it has failed to give a the secure sense of identity which they crave, which is why they’re busy pretending to be Arabs, Turks or Persians half the time.
Instead of criticizing the failures of their own society wholeheartedly, they resort to blaming others (either partially or wholly) for their own shortcomings/failures. India-Pakistan relations will never normalize until Pakistan grows up and matures as a society.
Indias grievances are legitimate, Pakistan’s are a fantasy, mostly imagined, its problems most of its own creation.
Hindus are right to have grievances with Islam and Christianity, but they should also introspect on the causes of why they were dominated so easily for the last thousand years. As Will Durand said, a civilization cannot be conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. Muslims need to reflect on their own self-destructive tendencies and warlike ways, and understand why their community seems to have a conflict with nearly every other cultural community in the world, including amogst themselves.
What the author (who is a respected Physicist) is trying to highlight is the sense of entitlement which arises from being rulers and victors in the past.
1. The Ottoman Turks conquest of the Byzantine empire and it’s capital Constantinople in 1453 makes modern Turkey feel entitled to lead the Muslim world.
2. Conquest of Indian lands by Timurid, Ghaznavid and Turko-Mongol rulers beginning in the 11th century and lasting upto the 19th century makes modern Pakistan feel entitled to being separate and superior power in the subcontinent.
3. Having an ancient and flourishing civilisation makes Indians feel as if they are forever entitled to greatness and riches inspite of now being one of the poorest societies on Earth.
When these fantasies meet current realities then societies escape into recourse to religious and racial superiority, attributing current status to past angst and collective dreaming of return to great power status by electing demagogues and strong men thugs. The author has made his point with skill and is relevant to India as well as his native country.
How is Mr Modi condeming foreign rule when he is itching to send poor indian soldier to be slaughtered in Kashmir and Ladakh just to disrupt CPEC and for his personal report with Western capital?
The reality is that from 8th century A.D., hindus have been defeated repeatedly for centuries until the rise of modern India. It was our bad time in history as we were a highly divided people based on caste, ethnicity and petty politics that were willing to back stab and betray their own nation at the drop of a hat. We had zero strategic vision, never bothered to have a joint defence of the northwest, never invested in modernizing weapons or warfare and had little interest in science and technology. Any 17 year old with a few people on horseback could conquer us.
We hindus defend against this shameful history by latching on to hyper nationalism, as a way to compensate for that pathetic past. Our muslims brothers, who pretty much know they are ex- hindus who became muslims as a result of this sorry history, take the other way to compensate, which is to deny the obvious and pretend to be a Turk, Arab etc. Actually both are trying to reconcile and compensate for the collective shameful history of defeat. I bet that if Islam had arrived here via traders or sufis in a peaceful manner, neither hindus or muslims would have such extreme, primordial reactions and we would be much more like Malaysia or Indonesia.
Indian Hindu revivalism calls vasudhev kutumbkam ie all earth is a family
Gaazni Gauri taimur were all invaders and called so by Indian historians in independent India
I studied the same 25 to 30 years back
This face of Hindu revivalism ie aggressive has its roots in whats up and face book revolution
Trying to know ones own history or evaluating it is not always religious nationalism
If it becomes so it is a dangerous trend should be opposed
But this is also true that pseudo secularism which decries all mention of word Hindu as facism and using words like Hindu terror state etc is equally dangerous in fact it is this pseudoseculsrim labelling all mention if Hindu as dangerous has what has led to liberals become staunch Hindus you fail to understand that Indian society s under lying strength is universal integration despite diversity and Hindu nationalism is reactionary to pseudoseculsrim
Pakistan do not have it’s history n culture. Pakistanis up to now considered themselves arabs n now they are trying to be turkish n perhaps in near future they will consider themselves chinkies. They have difficulty to identify with the Indian heritage from which they originated from. No matter how they try to be something that they are NOT but at the end of the day their DNA is Indian and shall be for centuries to come.
The writer’s chimera that Pakistan should embrace pluralism is like hoping to hunt polar bears in the forests of FATA. The country which is formed on the basis of religion to the exclusion of all others cannot think of a pluralist society. So far as the TV serial is considered it has nothing to do with India so adding India to this article seems mischievous.
Factual mistakes, surprised. Didn’t expect this from the likes of Dr Hoodbhoy. Amit Shah said, “illegal ‘infiltrators’ are like termites” and not foreigners. When atrocities are committed in the name of religion, nobody can accept that. For more than 700 hundred years Muslim rulers forcibly converted, raped and massacred the Hindu population especially in Kashmir. That’s why their DNA will be same as they are all just converts from Hindus. The fear is just and understandable, no one will accept this as ancient history but as a continuous Holocaust inflicted on the Hindus of India, it becomes part of human psyche. We won’t forget, we need to remember it so that it doesn’t happen to us or to anyone else again, ever.
Factual mistakes, surprised. Didn’t expect this from the likes of Dr Hoodbhoy. Amit Shah said, “illegal ‘infiltrators’ are like termites” and not foreigners. When atrocities are committed in the name of religion, nobody can accept that. For more than 700 hundred years Muslim rulers forcibly converted, raped and massacred the Hindu population especially in Kashmir. That’s why their DNA will be same as they are all just converts from Hindus. The fear is just and understandable, no one will accept this as ancient history but as a continuous Holocaust inflicted on the Hindus of India, it becomes part of human psyche. We won’t forget, we need to remember it so that it doesn’t happen to us again, ever.
Factual mistakes, surprised. Didn’t expect this from the likes of Dr Hoodbhoy. Amit Shah said, “illegal ‘infiltrators’ are like termites” and not foreigners. When atrocities are committed in the name of religion, nobody can accept that. For more than 700 hundred years Muslim rulers forcibly converted, raped and massacred the Hindu population especially in Kashmir. That’s why their DNA will be same as they are all just converts from Hindus. The fear is just and understandable, no one will accept this as ancient history but as a continuous Holocaust inflicted on the Hindus of India, it becomes part of human psyche. We won’t forget, we need to remember it so that it doesn’t happen to us again, ever.
Pakistanis always seek to equate themselves with India and try to drag India down, for first count it is not true that India is following Pakustan’s way of extremism and secondly there was no need bring is India in this article. Pakistan suffers from massive inferiority complex, it hates its own ancestors, its native culture and language, It seeks to link itself with Persia, Saudi and Turkey when not even 10% of its population can claim such heritage. It idolizes the very same invaders who killed, maimed and raped their own people… India takes pride in its civilization, culture and history, this makes the Pakistanis nervous, so be it. India is democratic and secular because its majority believes in it “Saravjan hitay sarvajan sukhay”
My thinking is that why Pakistani are more energetic to watch this serial Episode, Indian politician always use such language that they will destroy Pakistan ..so there is sense OS insecure.. Just like erturagal tent feel heat from Byzantine governer.
In India, Muslims.. Especially teenager and youths think that.. Modi is bad for them and dangerous for Islam.
After the CAA and NRC discussion…it becomes more serious issue about the existence.
Your point is valid but not relevant for this topic.
Not sure why the author brings in India when the article is about Pakistanis worshipping invaders. Governments in India whether of the past or present never encouraged invader worship although each one may have promoted their own favourite heroes albeit all Indian. Meanwhile Pakistan has always looked abroad for inspiration be it the Arab countries, Turkey or China. The author needs to focus on what he wants to say rather than wading into India bashing.
I checked this article on Dawn and no where there was a mention of Modi. Even the title of the article is different. Did the print change it to include Modi ? If yes, this is shameful.
First of all there is no need bring is India in this article. Pakistan is the only country that worships the people who invade and rape their land… India call invaders as invaders. Where Pakistan worship Ghauri, Ghazni, abdali all who invaded what is called toady’s pakistan. For a Pakistani its painful to see their selected PM is praising foreign culture. Do not bring in India to reduce that pain. Modi calls invaders as invaders
False equivalence – a typical tactic by Pakistanis to avoid taking full responsibility for their country’s failures by dragging India into the picture. Softens the harsh reality of while also satisfying the perennial objective of finding a way to bring India down.
Plus this author knows that he can get Indian readership by bringing India into the picture, whose market for readership far outstrips Pakistan’s market.
Pakistanis have never gotten over the fact that India has succeeded as a country, outpaced them and even defeated them multiple times militarily despite not being a Muslim society, while their zealous embrace of Islam has so far failed to deliver national greatness. Worse, it has failed to give a the secure sense of identity which they crave, which is why they’re busy pretending to be Arabs, Turks or Persians half the time.
Instead of criticizing the failures of their own society wholeheartedly, they resort to blaming others (either partially or wholly) for their own shortcomings/failures. India-Pakistan relations will never normalize until Pakistan grows up and matures as a society.
Indias grievances are legitimate, Pakistan’s are a fantasy, mostly imagined, its problems most of its own creation.
Hindus are right to have grievances with Islam and Christianity, but they should also introspect on the causes of why they were dominated so easily for the last thousand years. As Will Durand said, a civilization cannot be conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. Muslims need to reflect on their own self-destructive tendencies and warlike ways, and understand why their community seems to have a conflict with nearly every other cultural community in the world, including amogst themselves.
What the author (who is a respected Physicist) is trying to highlight is the sense of entitlement which arises from being rulers and victors in the past.
1. The Ottoman Turks conquest of the Byzantine empire and it’s capital Constantinople in 1453 makes modern Turkey feel entitled to lead the Muslim world.
2. Conquest of Indian lands by Timurid, Ghaznavid and Turko-Mongol rulers beginning in the 11th century and lasting upto the 19th century makes modern Pakistan feel entitled to being separate and superior power in the subcontinent.
3. Having an ancient and flourishing civilisation makes Indians feel as if they are forever entitled to greatness and riches inspite of now being one of the poorest societies on Earth.
When these fantasies meet current realities then societies escape into recourse to religious and racial superiority, attributing current status to past angst and collective dreaming of return to great power status by electing demagogues and strong men thugs. The author has made his point with skill and is relevant to India as well as his native country.
How is Mr Modi condeming foreign rule when he is itching to send poor indian soldier to be slaughtered in Kashmir and Ladakh just to disrupt CPEC and for his personal report with Western capital?
The reality is that from 8th century A.D., hindus have been defeated repeatedly for centuries until the rise of modern India. It was our bad time in history as we were a highly divided people based on caste, ethnicity and petty politics that were willing to back stab and betray their own nation at the drop of a hat. We had zero strategic vision, never bothered to have a joint defence of the northwest, never invested in modernizing weapons or warfare and had little interest in science and technology. Any 17 year old with a few people on horseback could conquer us.
We hindus defend against this shameful history by latching on to hyper nationalism, as a way to compensate for that pathetic past. Our muslims brothers, who pretty much know they are ex- hindus who became muslims as a result of this sorry history, take the other way to compensate, which is to deny the obvious and pretend to be a Turk, Arab etc. Actually both are trying to reconcile and compensate for the collective shameful history of defeat. I bet that if Islam had arrived here via traders or sufis in a peaceful manner, neither hindus or muslims would have such extreme, primordial reactions and we would be much more like Malaysia or Indonesia.
Indian Hindu revivalism calls vasudhev kutumbkam ie all earth is a family
Gaazni Gauri taimur were all invaders and called so by Indian historians in independent India
I studied the same 25 to 30 years back
This face of Hindu revivalism ie aggressive has its roots in whats up and face book revolution
Trying to know ones own history or evaluating it is not always religious nationalism
If it becomes so it is a dangerous trend should be opposed
But this is also true that pseudo secularism which decries all mention of word Hindu as facism and using words like Hindu terror state etc is equally dangerous in fact it is this pseudoseculsrim labelling all mention if Hindu as dangerous has what has led to liberals become staunch Hindus you fail to understand that Indian society s under lying strength is universal integration despite diversity and Hindu nationalism is reactionary to pseudoseculsrim
Pakistan do not have it’s history n culture. Pakistanis up to now considered themselves arabs n now they are trying to be turkish n perhaps in near future they will consider themselves chinkies. They have difficulty to identify with the Indian heritage from which they originated from. No matter how they try to be something that they are NOT but at the end of the day their DNA is Indian and shall be for centuries to come.
The writer’s chimera that Pakistan should embrace pluralism is like hoping to hunt polar bears in the forests of FATA. The country which is formed on the basis of religion to the exclusion of all others cannot think of a pluralist society. So far as the TV serial is considered it has nothing to do with India so adding India to this article seems mischievous.
Factual mistakes, surprised. Didn’t expect this from the likes of Dr Hoodbhoy. Amit Shah said, “illegal ‘infiltrators’ are like termites” and not foreigners. When atrocities are committed in the name of religion, nobody can accept that. For more than 700 hundred years Muslim rulers forcibly converted, raped and massacred the Hindu population especially in Kashmir. That’s why their DNA will be same as they are all just converts from Hindus. The fear is just and understandable, no one will accept this as ancient history but as a continuous Holocaust inflicted on the Hindus of India, it becomes part of human psyche. We won’t forget, we need to remember it so that it doesn’t happen to us or to anyone else again, ever.
Factual mistakes, surprised. Didn’t expect this from the likes of Dr Hoodbhoy. Amit Shah said, “illegal ‘infiltrators’ are like termites” and not foreigners. When atrocities are committed in the name of religion, nobody can accept that. For more than 700 hundred years Muslim rulers forcibly converted, raped and massacred the Hindu population especially in Kashmir. That’s why their DNA will be same as they are all just converts from Hindus. The fear is just and understandable, no one will accept this as ancient history but as a continuous Holocaust inflicted on the Hindus of India, it becomes part of human psyche. We won’t forget, we need to remember it so that it doesn’t happen to us again, ever.
I read this article on Dawn with a different name tag. Old vine in new glass.
Factual mistakes, surprised. Didn’t expect this from the likes of Dr Hoodbhoy. Amit Shah said, “illegal ‘infiltrators’ are like termites” and not foreigners. When atrocities are committed in the name of religion, nobody can accept that. For more than 700 hundred years Muslim rulers forcibly converted, raped and massacred the Hindu population especially in Kashmir. That’s why their DNA will be same as they are all just converts from Hindus. The fear is just and understandable, no one will accept this as ancient history but as a continuous Holocaust inflicted on the Hindus of India, it becomes part of human psyche. We won’t forget, we need to remember it so that it doesn’t happen to us again, ever.
Mr. Hoodbhoy is a keen observer. I respect his views even though there are differences. Good luck professor.
Modi Ki Confusion,India China Conflict. مودی کی کنیوژن
LINK here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a8XPUGzl7o
Pakistanis always seek to equate themselves with India and try to drag India down, for first count it is not true that India is following Pakustan’s way of extremism and secondly there was no need bring is India in this article. Pakistan suffers from massive inferiority complex, it hates its own ancestors, its native culture and language, It seeks to link itself with Persia, Saudi and Turkey when not even 10% of its population can claim such heritage. It idolizes the very same invaders who killed, maimed and raped their own people… India takes pride in its civilization, culture and history, this makes the Pakistanis nervous, so be it. India is democratic and secular because its majority believes in it “Saravjan hitay sarvajan sukhay”
My thinking is that why Pakistani are more energetic to watch this serial Episode, Indian politician always use such language that they will destroy Pakistan ..so there is sense OS insecure.. Just like erturagal tent feel heat from Byzantine governer.
In India, Muslims.. Especially teenager and youths think that.. Modi is bad for them and dangerous for Islam.
After the CAA and NRC discussion…it becomes more serious issue about the existence.
Your point is valid but not relevant for this topic.
Not sure why the author brings in India when the article is about Pakistanis worshipping invaders. Governments in India whether of the past or present never encouraged invader worship although each one may have promoted their own favourite heroes albeit all Indian. Meanwhile Pakistan has always looked abroad for inspiration be it the Arab countries, Turkey or China. The author needs to focus on what he wants to say rather than wading into India bashing.
I checked this article on Dawn and no where there was a mention of Modi. Even the title of the article is different. Did the print change it to include Modi ? If yes, this is shameful.
Changed name from dawn and sold here
First of all there is no need bring is India in this article. Pakistan is the only country that worships the people who invade and rape their land… India call invaders as invaders. Where Pakistan worship Ghauri, Ghazni, abdali all who invaded what is called toady’s pakistan. For a Pakistani its painful to see their selected PM is praising foreign culture. Do not bring in India to reduce that pain. Modi calls invaders as invaders