Bengaluru: When cases of coronavirus, the virus that has killed more than 3,000 people in China, were first reported in India, the AYUSH Ministry advised citizens to use homoeopathy to prevent infection.
A system of alternative medicine, homoeopathy courts deep popularity in India, so much so that many are known to believe that it’s an Indian system. According to the government, it’s the second most popular form of medicine in the country with as much as 10 per cent of the population relying on it.
It claims to treat diseases for which allopathy, or Western medicine, currently offers no cure — from diabetes and psoriasis to polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS).
Among followers, it is seen as a form of natural therapy, invoking a sense of Eastern mysticism with its promise of painless treatment.
However, homoeopathy is neither all-natural, nor Indian. It’s not even Eastern — it was created in 1796 by a German physician named Samuel Hahnemann, who reportedly coined the term “allopathy” as a pejorative for modern medicine.
One of the two basic tenets of the system is “like cures like” — that is, if something causes acidity, the same thing will also ease it.
The other is the law of minimum dosage — Taking a core ingredient and diluting it to such an extent that there isn’t even a single molecule of the original substance left.
Despite its popularity, the system remains controversial. Most health experts — from the World Health Organisation (WHO), to the US Department of Health and Human Services and Britain’s National Health Service — cite research and express scepticism. They discourage its use as an alternative to conventional medicine for life-threatening diseases, and see it as a harmless placebo at best and a purveyor of potentially lethal concoctions at worst.
Several countries like Britain and France do not allow government funding in the field, while Australia conducted a thorough review and declared it pseudoscience. Spain has proposed banning it for being dangerous.
Even so, there is no dearth of people who testify to its potential as a cure for a laundry list of conditions. In India, it’s the subject of a degree course that allows students to become registered practitioners and is overseen by a dedicated government department.
This contradiction is precisely the reason why the AYUSH Ministry’s coronavirus advisory seemed to set the cat among the pigeons, leading several people to question the “unproven advice” in the face of a health crisis. But backers of the system were equally vocal.
the government of India (as usual) is peddling unscientific crap
ayurveda, homeopathy and unani are NOT legitimate branches of medicine and have no material proof in curing or preventing such diseases
please don't swallow placebo-inducing sugar pills thinking you'll be safe. https://t.co/u9vV2n8itD
— v̴̢͉̙͙̜̘̣̓͑̽̾̓͘͝ͅo̸̯̮͂̽̉̓̃͝͠͝i̸͎͍͕̭̩̊͆̇̃̅̽̄d̷̿̈́̀̄͑ (@bismillahcamus) January 29, 2020
#Coronavirus breaks out, China embarks on building a 1000 bed hospital in 6 days
India: ye lo homeopathy, 4 goli subah 4 raat ko khaali pet. No onion no garlic. OK?
— Raghav Chopra (@RaghavChopra_) January 29, 2020
3.02.20 to conduct Coronavirus Awerness and Distributed Homeopathy Preventive Medicine, in Govt MPP School in Ramanujapalli villege, Tirupati Rural, Andhrapradesh,India. Homeopathy Doctor Balaji Deekshitulu P V, was free distributed medicines in 100 poor children's. pic.twitter.com/Q8VBF6N1rN
— drsribalaji@gmail.com (@drsribalajigma1) February 3, 2020
#coronavirus
Here is the remedy to cure #coronavirus. @homeopathy_inh @fohhomeopathy @HomeopathyWorld @ANI @ravishndtv @ndtv pic.twitter.com/rnJuBsoOMc
— sayyad danish (@sayyadardanish) January 28, 2020
Discussion with Honorable AYUSH Minister Mr Shripad Yesso Naik ji, about the preventive aspect of Homeopathy for Coronavirus Disease,he has assured his valuable support in this matter .
Indian AYUSH Ministry will be pioneer in working for preventing this deadly virus.
Thank you. pic.twitter.com/6gjiVQoWES
— Dr. Naval Kumar Verma (@dr_naval) January 28, 2020
@WHO as per a widely circulated @WhatsApp forward, the #coronavirus can be treated by #homeopathy. Is this true? pic.twitter.com/ILthrDE88z
— Master Yoda (@domyowndance) January 28, 2020
So, what does a layperson make of it?
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What is homoeopathy?
Hahnemann, the homoeopathy creator, believed there were only three kinds of illnesses, syphilis, psychosis (or fig-wart disease), and the itch (where the skin itches), which he thought were symptomatic of other diseases like cancer, deafness and epilepsy.
This theory is contentious even within homoeopathic communities today.
Hahnemann’s basic premise rejects the theory that a disease or infection is through an outside cause and states that every illness is from within one’s own body.
The homoeopathic premise of “like cures like” derives from an experiment Hahnemann conducted where he reportedly ingested large amounts of cinchona bark (it contains quinine, used to treat malaria even today). Hahnemann is believed to have concluded that the symptoms produced by overconsumption mirrored those for malaria, and thus the bark could treat the disease.
While it’s often believed to be plant-based and natural, the core ingredients involved in homoeopathic remedies can be animal- or plant-based, mineral or synthetic, designated with Latin or Latin-sounding names.
The creation of remedies involves diluting the core ingredient to such an extent with water, alcohol or sugar that there isn’t even a single molecule of the original substance left.
Arsenic oxide, known as arsenicum album in homoeopathy, was what the AYUSH Ministry prescribed for coronavirus prevention. It has traditionally been used by homoeopaths as treatment for conditions such as digestive disorders, allergies and even anxiety and insomnia.
Other core ingredients include natrum muriaticum (sodium chloride or common salt), the poisonous belladonna flower, opium, and even products from a diseased person, like blood, urine, faeces, pus and mucus discharge.
Some preparations use “captured” ingredients such as x-rays and sunlight. “Sol” or sunlight is particularly common, and is “obtained” by exposing lactose (natural sugar occurring in milk) to the Sun.
To reduce the effects of radiation therapy, alcohol exposed to x-rays is used (which isn’t “natural”). Often, insoluble substances like granite are ground to pieces with lactose and then diluted. For example, it was reported last year that a British homoeopath, who also caters to the royal family, was offering a remedy devised from pieces of the Berlin Wall as a “cure” for depression and asthma.
The dilution takes place in a form of logarithmic scales (where each step is a multiple of the previous one). The two used most commonly are X potency, where each scale represents a dilution by a factor of 10, and centesimal (C), by a factor of 100.
A 2X (unit of potency) scale would mean that a substance is diluted one part in 9, and then one part of the resulting solution again diluted in 9 parts of the solvent.
For example, one millilitre of a core ingredient first diluted in 9 millilitres of water, and one part of the resulting solution again diluted in 9 millilitres of water.
So, a 10X potency would repeat the process 10 times, and a 15X, 15 times.
This is the same for C, but by a factor of 100: One part diluted with 99 parts.
Common potencies used are 30X or 300C, but beyond 12C or 24X, there is no presence of even a single molecule of the core substance.
Homoeopathy believes that the more diluted a remedy is, the more potent it is. A potency of 100X, for example, is considered to be higher than 10X — a fact chemists see as counterintuitive.
This is based on the controversial notion that water has “memory” and retains information about the substances it comes in contact with (and thus cures the body).
The final solution is poured over sugar tablets and left to evaporate.
Homoeopathic remedies are thus as good as harmless to the human body, but only when mixed correctly. There have been cases of arsenic poisoning in India because of poorly concocted homoeopathic remedies.
Evolution and spread of homoeopathy
Homoeopathy was widely adopted in the 1800s as modern medicine was just evolving and included several painful practices. New diseases were infecting the human population, and medical science hadn’t caught up yet.
Homoeopathy held the promise of painless “treatment” and gained popularity.
Homoeopathic schools opened in the US and Europe throughout the late 19th century, spurred by ineffective treatments for outbreaks like cholera, which killed hundreds of thousands of people at the time.
Medical practitioners investigated the system for assessing efficacy, and this is thought to have encouraged rigour in modern medicine as well.
However, leading homoeopaths rapidly started abandoning the practice in the mid-20th century as modern medicine showed real results. The last homoeopathic school in the US was shut down in 1920.
Later, Nazi interest in homoeopathy led to its resurgence in public consciousness in the 1930s and 40s — but they abandoned the system quickly too.
It then gained favour with the New Age Movement, a Western phenomenon that spawned a variety of spiritual and religious beliefs in the 70s, and incorporated “natural” remedies for the mind, body, and spirit as their central tenet for health.
The movement has been known to adopt pseudoscientific beliefs such as astrology as a reaction against institutional establishment structures, and is credited with the rising popularity of homoeopathy today.
In India, homoeopathy was introduced in the early 19th century and was quickly adopted across the country, via Bengal.
The Calcutta Homoeopathic Medical College, the first Indian homoeopathic institute, was established in 1881.
In 1973, the Union government recognised homoeopathy as one of the national systems of medicine and set up the Central Council of Homoeopathy (CCH, now overseen by AYUSH Ministry) to regulate its education and practice.
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Scientific consensus
Homoeopathic training involves a number of beliefs that run counter to well-established science. The system rejects germ theory, believing that all illnesses come from within. Future practitioners are reportedly taught that vaccines are poisonous and antibiotics a sham.
Right from the time it took hold, homoeopathy has been criticised by physicians. Evidence for its efficacy is said to have been established by Hahnemann by having patients simply write down their symptoms in detail after consumption of a remedy, a process that lacked rigour.
Scientific studies into homoeopathy have consistently shown it to be ineffective in treating illnesses or their symptoms — or occasionally just as effective as placebos.
Analyses of existing studies show that research suggesting positive results was either not conducted as rigorously as necessary or was backed by insufficient evidence.
A 2002 study conducted by a British researcher — a systematic review of other systematic reviews on homoeopathy — found that no study was able to determine positive outcomes. It concluded that the “best clinical evidence for homoeopathy available to date does not warrant positive recommendations for its use in clinical practice”.
Many other such studies have followed in the two decades since.
Most recently, an extensive 2015 study in Australia, conducted by the country’s top funding body for medical research, the National Health and Medical Research Council, assessed over 1,800 other studies and the results yet again weren’t in favour of homoeopathy.
The basic foundation of homoeopathy, that water holds the memory of substances it has been in contact with, has been widely discredited but remains controversial.
Following large-scale denunciations of homoeopathy by scientists, many medical bodies and health services have conducted independent research and issued advisories against the use of homoeopathy.
The health agencies of the US and Britain — the Department of Health and Human Services and Britain’s National Health Service, respectively — both state clearly on their websites that the purported effectiveness of homoeopathy is not backed by research. The WHO has discouraged its use for treatment of serious diseases, and called for quality control and regulation of homoeopathy to avoid lethal consequences.
National medical and health bodies in Russia, Australia, and Europe have warned against homoeopathy. Countries like Britain and France have forbidden reimbursement for homoeopathic treatments, while Spain is pushing for a ban on the entire system for being dangerous and unethical.
“Many countries have conducted comprehensive research and have ultimately decided that it doesn’t work,” said Amalorpavanathan Joseph, a vascular surgeon at Chennai’s Vijaya Hospital.
Speaking about the recent government advisory against coronavirus, he added, “Even if it was issued as a preventive measure to build up immunity and not a cure, it can’t work. Building up immunity takes years, it can’t happen in a matter of a few days.”
‘A cure for everything’
Supporters of homoeopathy claim it can cure almost anything, including conditions such as polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), psoriasis and diabetes that Western medicine is yet to find a cure for.
“Homoeopathy has medicines for everything, including thyroid, PCOD, psoriasis, diabetes, hair-fall, osteoarthritis, and even cancer,” said Josy Joy, a homoeopath practising at the Bengaluru-based Care N Cure Health Clinic.
According to Joy, his patients have seen improvements in all these illnesses without modern medicine.
Asked about the criticism directed at the medicine system, he said, “Western science looks for material content in homoeopathic medicines, but homoeopathy acts in a dynamic way. If the medicines are used, results can be seen.
“Our patients have seen their goiters dissolve through homoeopathy but allopathy has only surgery for most of these.”
Medical experts disagree.
“Any claims made should be backed by data and evidence. There has been no documented evidence that homoeopathy works and can cure people of illnesses,” said Joseph of Chennai’s Vijaya Hospital.
“If there’s evidence that homoeopathy works, doctors would be the first to adopt it. We want our patients to be cured and healthy after all.”
Sumaiya Shaikh, a Sweden-based neuroscientist who serves as science editor of the fact-checking portal Alt News, has done extensive research on homoeopathy and academic homeopathic publications as a part of her reportage.
“The studies (that prove homoeopathy to be effective) have faulty statistics at the outset,” she said.
“A mechanical explanation of the drug dynamics is never attempted in the discussion, even as a hypothesis, as the authors never know how exactly they think the drug is working. Often the conclusions are far-fetched in the abstract but when the study is carefully examined, the data doesn’t reflect the assertion of the conclusions,” Shaikh added.
Additionally, critics claim, processes that induce scientific rigour, such as blinding, are rarely used. Blinding is when the patient doesn’t know if they’re being given a homoeopathic medicine or an allopathic one. A similar system is double-blinding, when doctors themselves don’t know either.
Such systems are important to establish the effectiveness of a treatment without bias.
Shaikh explained how ‘citation value’ of research — a measure of credibility — is enhanced by the authors or other homoeopaths by repeatedly citing faulty studies that discard other variables.
Backers, however, are quick to reject the argument about the lack of credible research, saying it was consequence of the West’s indifference towards the alternative medicine system.
“The accessibility of homoeopathic system is very limited in the Western world and did not receive much attention in development as compared to allopathy,” said Dr Anil Khurana, director general at the Central Council For Research in Homoeopathy, an institute under the AYUSH Ministry.
“Because of the low cost of medicines, it did not get investment from sponsors either. Even governments in Western countries did not invest funds in alternative medicine, including homoeopathy,” he added. “Their support towards allopathy has prevented them from investing in further research and studies to prove the efficacy of homoeopathy.”
“However, there are countries like Brazil, Cuba and Mexico where the government supports this system of medicine… The therapy has started growing in the US, where seven states have allowed legal practice of homoeopathy. In Europe, acceptance is at an all-time high in most countries, including Italy, Germany, France and Switzerland.”
While as much as 60 per cent of the French population reportedly uses homoeopathy, come 2021, the government will end public support for medicines under the system. In Switzerland, meanwhile, homoeopathy has been given the same status as conventional medicine.
According to Khurana, students seeking training in homoeopathy are subjected to a rigorous 5.5-year curriculum, which includes a year-long internship and “is equivalent to MBBS where lessons don’t only deal with homoeopathy but also other subjects, as happens at allopathic medical colleges”.
“India has the largest infrastructure of homoeopathy because of increased demand from the public who have experienced the benefits of homoeopathy,” he said.
There are nearly 3 lakh registered homoeopaths in India today. An estimated 32,000 students enrol each year in AYUSH colleges, of which over 13,000 students opt for homoeopathy.
But this curriculum has a potentially dark underbelly.
“Homoeopathy degrees are an easy gateway into medical practice for students who didn’t obtain good enough scores to enter an MBBS programme,” said Shantanu Abhyankar, a trained homoeopath who switched to modern medicine after “being convinced that homeopathy is humbug”.
Abhyankar himself did the same — entered a homeopathy course as he couldn’t score well enough for MBBS.
But during the course of his training, he realised that they were just taught theory, and research papers published in the field offered no proof that homoeopathy worked.
“Homoeopaths are legitimised by the prefix ‘Dr’ against their name, and thus set up a practice,” he said.
Abhyankar eventually went back and obtained an MBBS degree, and has been a practising gynaecologist for 20 years now.
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How placebos work
There are many reasons why critics believe homoeopathy seems to work for people.
Primary among these is called “regression to the mean”.
Nearly every illness has a natural growth curve before it tapers and dies (or kills). Typically, the moment illness sets in, patients go to doctors. Antibiotics or other modern drugs are prescribed — and might not always work. A homoeopath then prescribes a long course of remedies. So, just as the patient consumes them, the disease in its natural course starts to decline, and eventually the patient is cured.
The regression to the mean has been cited as a factor behind faulty results in placebo experiments on multiple occasions. This is also believed to be the reason why many patients who have survived dangerous illnesses like cancer report feeling better when they follow up medical treatment with a trip to the homoeopath.
“We have treated many cancer patients who have suffered from all kinds of cancer such as lung cancer and breast cancer,” said homoeopath Joy.
“Homoeopathy prolongs life. With chemotherapy, the problem is that there is increased chances of cancer recurrence [there is no proof for this claim], but people still always go to chemotherapy and then come to homoeopathy. We have successfully avoided recurrence for many kinds of cancers.”
“Different patients have different needs, so we use different remedies made of arsenic, belladonna etc.,” he added.
He did, however, concede that he hadn’t seen cancer patients who came to homoeopathy directly before chemotherapy.
A similar effect as regression to the mean is also seen in unassisted natural healing, where the body’s system builds up immunity over time to fight off an illness, and this often coincides with a homoeopathic course.
It is also possible that the patient feels better on account of a completely different aspect of their life that is inducing a pharmacological change in the body and treating the illness, such as a new meditation practice.
Patients also often use homoeopathy as a complementary treatment to a medicine course.
There is also the therapeutic effect of physician consultation. A homeopathic consultation could typically last for two hours, and a 2010 study published in the peer-reviewed British journal Rheumatology attributed to clinical benefits in homoeopathy patients could be attributed to the consultations.
Homoeopathy is also considered a placebo — it works because the people who take it think it does. But this requires strong belief and doesn’t hold true for all consumers. The placebo effect is a subject of active research, especially in light of the knowledge that patients respond even when they’re aware they might have been given a placebo.
But placebo effects are mostly known to work for symptoms of illnesses and pain management, not the actual disease. For a cancerous tumour, for example, someone under the placebo effect can feel less pain, but the tumour still eats away at the body.
Khurana, however, said it was a myth that homoeopathy worked as a placebo.
“The top research institutes of India for modern medicine, including AIIMS, School of Tropical Medicine, Kolkata, and Bose Institute, Kolkata and others have conducted pre-clinical trials (those preceding clinical trials on humans) to dispel the myth that these medicines are mere placebo,” he said.
“Such trials have been adequately documented to validate the claims. The studies have been published in international peer-reviewed journals.”
Some of the studies, however, seem to say nothing about the efficacy of homeopathy. Instead, a study by West Bengal researchers, including from Bose Institute, spoke about “vibrational and electric properties” of the medicines.
ThePrint reached the heads of AIIMS and the Indian Council for Medical Research (ICMR) for comment but they did not respond.
“Homoeopathy treats symptoms while modern medicine treats causes,” said Abhyankar. “Modern medicine can even predict and prevent (a disease). But homoeopathy can only treat symptoms after they manifest.”
Homoeopathic remedies might seem like a harmless placebo, but they cause significant indirect harm, said Edzard Ernst, a German academic physician who is considered an authority on complementary and alternative medicine (CAM).
“If a severely ill person is treated with ineffective homoeopathy and thus forfeits effective treatments, her illness will not be adequately treated and thus (she will be caused) unnecessary suffering,” he added. “If a homoeopath advises a patient against vaccinations — as many homoeopaths do — he endangers public health. If a homoeopath charges for useless treatments, he causes harm to his patient’s finances.”
Homoeopaths, however, fulfil a key role in India’s healthcare pyramid — informal community care.
“We have nurses, super speciality nurses, ward officers, doctors, but very few physiotherapists or trained counsellors,” said Abhyankar. “Because they (homoeopaths) are considered doctors, they often end up fulfilling this need.”
Under the AYUSH Ministry, homoeopathy is the second most highly funded system of medicine after ayurveda, but Ernst said it didn’t warrant such attention.
“Homoeopathy is both biologically implausible and, according to the best available evidence, not clinically effective. Therefore, funding research into homoeopathy should not be on the agenda of reputable funding organisations, let alone governments,” he added.
“Research funds are notoriously scarce. Therefore, governments and other funding bodies have an ethical, moral and legal duty to spend them on projects with a high prior probability of generating a productive result,” he said.
“Alternative medicine should be open to scrutiny and peer review by everyone and should be subjected to the same principles of research as evidence-based medicine,” added Shaikh. “By the sheer exclusivity and inability to bite bitter bullets, alternative medicine has become what it has become. There could be immense value in finding mechanisms and biochemical pathways at which the anti-inflammatory herbs are targeted but the research is always focused on quick translation and marketing before due research, as the belief takes over its evidence.”
With inputs from Himani Chandna in New Delhi
Edited by Sunanda Ranjan
The tsunami of Covid that public health experts have been warning us about, has hit India now.
Did we listen to real scientists? No.
Because the first wave did not hit us hard, we ignored public health experts who warned us that there will be bigger 2nd and 3rd waves. All first waves were not bad in thin countries, but other waves were waiting like coiled snakes.
Instead of speeding up vaccine production, producing more oxygen while we still had time, and continuing to wear masks, we sat around pretending stupid decoctions and fake arsenic will protect us. We went completely insane with political rallies and festivals, completely forgetting Coronavirus. We were like cats drinking milk with closed eyes.
Now we are paying the price. You can only lie to yourself for so long till reality comes crashing down.
Forwarding herbal and homeopathic fake cures a billion times on whatsapp does not make it true.
How many oxygen production units could have been built for the money wasted on this AYUSH bullshit?
No amount of Turmeric Milk, Amla, Chawanprash, Kadha decoctions, Coronil, Arsenica Alba, Goumutra will save even O-N-E life.
Only vaccines, masks and oxygen make any difference. Do you think AYUSH quack hospitals are of any help at all now?
Don’t sabotage science for foolish beliefs.
Chay going after every homeopathy supporter like a headless chicken ?
Awwww Chay is sooo upset people don’t wanna believe him.
“Believe me” Chay shouts.
“No, we have our own thought process” People say
“Well you don’t have brains to think for yourself if you can’t believe what I am saying” Chay cribs
With the dead cremated in parks, if you aren’t upset, you have no humanity.
They are not dying for lack of Arsenicum Alba 30C. They are dying because they didn’t get vaccines and oxygen.
Of course, none of you homeopaths have brains.
looks like a paid writer supported by mega pharma companies.
Shame we are living in an environment where money can buy anything.
I myself an example for it’s credits.yes, since 1998 I’m free from my Prostatitis after start taking homeopathy medicine after having spent lakes in allopathy without an iota of relief.
Finally,if you don’t know about something,better keep your m…h shut
“if you don’t know about something,better keep your m…h shut”
That’s a great advice for you.
Uneducated people think their “experience” is the ultimate proof, for them its the only thing that matters. They can’t understand studies and shout they are all fraud if they don’t not agree with their beliefs. Have you considered that you might be s.t.u.p.i.d?
Have you considered that diseases often end when the body automatically fixes them with time and what magic pill you took at the time is irrelevant?
Homeopaths and their believers are forever claiming anecdotes. If such simpleton stories were proof then every quack medicine works and every pseudoscience is true.
Yet, there is not a SINGLE homeopathy remedy that has been proven to work, obviously, because there isn’t anything in them.
Paid and sold out Pharma lobby evil morons like you don’t care about nature.
You better shut your gorakh dhandha online.
To learn about nature, you need to study science of nature – Biology.
Medical science is fully based on biological sciences.
Simply screaming nature, nature, natural, natural is for uneducated morons like you.
Reading serious science and thinking with intelligence is completely beyond your capacity.
Keep quiet and stick to reading whatsapp forwards. That is at your mental level.
What is your problem Chay ? If you are promoting a system of medicine that should have by now produced a drug to control any virus leave alone Covid-19, I can understand your so called scientific temperament. Where there is no such thing why you are braying like a spoiled ass degrading other systems of medicine that have been in vogue for thousands of years in this world. Better check your gray matter. Possibly you seem to carry a lump of clay in your skull.
Richy,
Hahnemann made his name “braying” against and “degrading other systems of medicine that have been in vogue for thousands of years”. What do you think is “Allopathy”? It is “other systems of medicine that have been in vogue for thousands of years”. The whole religion of Homeopathy was “braying” against “degrading other systems of medicine that have been in vogue for thousands of years” and calling them Allopathy.
Get a scan. They will find just a lump of clay in your head, a small one.
It is a shame for science that those who wrote this article call themselves scientists. His lack of knowledge on the subject is evident and even so he dares to emit his wrong concepts. They are unaware of the WHO’s recognition of homeopathic science, they are unaware that in more than 96 countries including the USA, England, Canada, Germany, it is part of official medicine. It seems that they only replicate individual words that they heard in the wind like parrots. What irresponsibility!
Don’t just shamelessly lie. Homeopathy is not considered a science by WHO. WHO simply acknowledges that people use this unscientific thing and is only concerned about safety. WHO knows that homeopathy does not actually do anything.
“Our evidence-based WHO TB treatment/management guidelines, as well as the International Standards of Tuberculosis Care (ISTC) do not recommend use of homeopathy.” — Dr Mario Raviglione, Director, Stop TB Department, WHO
“WHO’s evidence-based guidelines on treatment of tuberculosis…have no place for homeopathic medicines.” — Dr Mukund Uplekar, TB Strategy and Health Systems, WHO
“We have found no evidence to date that homeopathy would bring any benefit to the treatment of diarrhoea in children…Homeopathy does not focus on the treatment and prevention of dehydration – in total contradiction with the scientific basis and our recommendations for the management of diarrhoea.” — Joe Martines, on behalf of Dr Elizabeth Mason, Director, Department of Child and Adolescent Health and Development, WHO
Homeopathy is not considered a science by any scientific organization including those in USA, England, Canada, Germany.
I already gave a long list of every major scientific organization in the world that officially calls it quackery.
Some used to believe in this pseudo science but now there is a government to back them up.Also explains why government officials were promoting coronil ??.Btw I don’t think that the young generation will believe this all and who is this chay?
Ofcourse it is pseudo science .But the fact that government is promoting this all doesn’t sends a good signal. Banning it also is a problem as a lot of people will lose their jobs.
Btw who is this chay ??
Please don’t comment on this article. She (Writer) is an paid artist (puppy) specially allotted for defaming.
Request to Writer, Please go ahead… Write another article. Paid idiot !
Whosoever has written this article , I pray God forbid this person if he/she or his/her family needs any homeopathic medicine later in life and has to eat the humble pie. Placebo !!!!!!! You should know why the mortality and morbidity rates were much lower compared to the world. and preventive medicines like ars. or influz. were out of stock in the whole of India trying to meet the demand – supply. When these so called editors run out of topics and come to sacred and noble science like Homoeopathy to write something !
Something is called sacred only when it is not a science. No science is ever sacred. Doing science is getting out of sacred thinking. Homeopathy is not a science, its a religion, so homeopaths think it is sacred.
With 1 year experience, mortality rates were low due to young and slim population (bad healthcare and poor food security).
Almost every country where people do not live long and were not fat did much better under Covid since Age and Obesity were major risk factors for Covid death.
Our police were thrashing people like cattle for breaking lockdown, it never happened in another country.
Its not because of the stupid arsenic which isn’t even there in those pills.
Dear writer ,this is Manish Shukla here ,look I am going to be civil here and as the writer of this article and you unfortunately suffer from a lot of Ignorance regarding homeopathy.I have treated several Covid patients in US with just 1-3 homeopathy doses and lets compare modern medicine which has failed and resulted in 280k deaths in USA and 100k + deaths in India and 1.4 million deaths overall and you spend your energy criticizing homeopathy .I encourage my patient to go for treatment what feels natural to them ,whether its allopathic ,acupuncture, ayurveda or homeopathy and it should make there immunity better in the end so that even when they caught covid kids of virus ,there body treats like a normal flu .I will try to give you some serious advice here but again it depends on how much you are willing to absorb in a positive way.Look when this kind of pandemic attacks humanity, the nature is giving signs that the way we grown our food ,eat & liive our life is against laws of nature and only when you recognize ,you can have solution to problem .Having a vaccine will not solve this problem or attacking homeopathy will not give you solution so please don’t drain your energy and try to help people who are in need.God bless you all and I request you all to not be overly critical with people who don’t agree with you here.
This is how the entire scam of homeopathy works.
About 7 crore people were diagnosed with Coronavirus so far. Out of those 4.5 crore recovered. About 0.15 crore have died.
Of the 4.5 crore recovered across the world, most have gone to real doctors. Some have gone to quacks like homeopaths.
A real doctor or anyone with even a little intelligence actually, knows the difference between recovery and cure. Homeopaths don’t or at least pretend like they don’t.
Homeopaths would like patients to think anyone who has come to them and recovered should be thought of as cured by them. Every case that every homeopath has ever claimed was cured, not just coronavirus, is in fact a fake cure and is just a natural recovery. Scientists disagree that even o-n-e case of any disease in the last 220 years was ever “cured” by homeopathy.
A person with basic intelligence knows that almost none of the coronavirus recoveries were cured by real medicine, but just automatically. A few were cured by very advanced treatments that cannot be widely distributed and doctors certainly prevented many, many deaths with intensive care (and sometimes probably caused them) until the disease ran though the normal course. Real doctors reduced death rates in serious cases. They also found out who was at risk and what real precautions to take to prevent spread. By this, not with pills, they probably saves many crores of lives and would have saved more if people actually followed advice of social distancing properly.
And finally, homeopathy is completely against the laws of nature. It follows “homeopathy laws”, not natural laws. They aren’t laws, but stupid dogma because they were already proven to be bullshit.
Finally, homeopaths are a menace to society because they attack vaccines at this crucial time. They always had, even when governments ordered them to not do this. They often do this privately.
Hi Chay ,I see you very soon having the need to visit a real doctor based of toxic venom that you have been able to carry over since a year you wrote this article .As other have pointed before me ,you need help .Real doctors in India and US based of Chay are doing an amazing job on handling the coif since you last wrote this article.Action speaks louder than words .Good luck on your toxic journey and hope lord give you sadbhuddhi either in this life or next .
“Real doctors in India and US based of Chay are doing an amazing job on handling the coif”
You are not even making any sense. Who are “real doctors” “based of Chay”? What’s “coif”? I didn’t write the article. Stop imagining things.
India just approved 4567 crore rupees to real vaccine production, not your quack nosodes. Homeopaths aren’t “real doctors”.
Actions do speak louder than words. No public health intervention anywhere is based on silly homeopathy. It is all vaccines, vaccines and more vaccines. Homeopaths like you are just afraid the public will realize how useless you really are.
Keep quiet quack, and stand in line for your vaccine.
Please tell my severely epileptic Australian Shepherd that homeopathy doesn’t work and it’s all in his imagination that a dose of Aconite stops his seizures when nothing else can. Or my Dachshund with disk disease who didn’t get better with the pred & Gabapentin that were destroying her liver. She went from crying & shivering in pain, refusing to move, with zero other options, to up and running and 100% back to normal after doses of Nux Vomica & Hypericum. Or my horse with a severe case of hives the vet said required steroids. We dosed him with Apis while waiting for her & the hives were almost gone before she even got here. We’ve dealt with thousands of dogs & other animals through our rescue and have dozens of these stories. It’s not like I woke up one day and decided that I wanted to believe homeopathy works. One day we tried it. It worked. And that happened over & over again. Like allopathic medicine, homeopathy can’t cure everything. But when it does it’s like magic & there are no side effects. Many times homeopathy hasn’t even been our first choice & we didn’t try it until nothing allopathic helped. Lots of other times it saved us from needing to go to the vet in the first place. It makes me violently ill to think that homeopathy may be taken from us merely because it cuts a teeny bit into the massive profits of big pharma. Losing access to these remedies will kill two of my dogs. This is serious for us. I could give a rip why it works. It just does. And it saves lives.
(And yes, we do use remedies for our own health issues & swear by them for us, too.)
According to Dr Manish Agarwala, the homeopathic drug arsenicum album 200c is the perfect vaccine available now as a preventive and curative for COVID19 pandemic.. See Ramaswami Ashok Kumar. 2020. PERFECT DESIGNS: The basis of all plans of Niti Aayog must be Public Interest Science. BlogSpot. It is astounding how wild man is wreaking havoc through modern civilization, a society of specialists. The panacea is to have Public Interest Science as the basis of all policies.
Manish Agarwala is just another homeopathic quack.
What he thinks is “perfect” is irrelevant because homeopaths are idiots.
Chay this is Manish Shukla here ,look I am going to be civil here and say that the writer of this article and your knowledge stems from lot of Ignorance regarding homeopathy.I have treated several Covid patients in US with 1-3 homeopathy doses and lets compare modern medicine which has failed resulted in 280k deaths in USA and 100k + deaths in India and 1.4 million deaths overall and you spend your energy criticizing homeopathy .I encourage my patient to go for treatment what feels natural to them either allopathic ,acupuncture,ayurveda or homeopathy and it should make there immunity better .I will try to give you some serious advice here but again it depends on how much you are willing to absorb in a positive way.Look when this kind of pandemic attacks humanity, the nature is giving signs that the way we grown our food ,eat & liive our life is against laws of nature and only when you recognize ,you can have solution to problem .Having a vaccine will not solve this problem or attacking homeopathy will not give you solution so please don’t drain your energy and try to help people who are in need.God bless you all and I request you all to not be overly critical with people who don’t agree with you here.
Quacks always want patients to go for what “feels natural” to uninformed patients. That’s because the science does not back you up in any way and calls your quackery a pseudoscience. So all you guys can go for is “feels” and “natural”.
How can you give “serious” advice? You have no serious education. Vaccine, social distancing and masking are the only things that will solve the problem, not your silly sugar pills. Don’t mislead public about vaccines.
Today Pfizer announced a positive trial for a vaccine and the whole stock market shook, even though testing is not complete.
Airline stocks went up by 15% at opening.
What happened when Homeopaths screamed nosodes, arsenia 30 and camphora 1M?
They were told to keep quiet and not make baseless claims.
Except the scientifically ignorant Rajiv Bajaj, did anyone in the market bat their eye?
Never mind scientists, everyone with common sense knows what Homeopathy’s place in the world is.
Almost anyone with proper education knows what science is and what quackery is, what the value of a scientific study is, and what the value behind homeopaths shouting is.
Science is science. Bullshit is bullshit.
If there existed even one disease in which homeopaths can consistently show these miracles they claim against a placebo using any remedy, science would embrace homeopathy with open arms. No need to explain mechanism. No need for all this water memory, quantum and nano particle bullshit. Just one disease. No explanations. Just one disease through any remedy where scientists say, whatever it may be, that’s not a placebo.
But 220 years later, homeopaths can’t name even a single disease like that.
How can it be a placebo effect on toddlers..my 1 year child was used to develop blisters on the whole body.. allopathic doctor gave medicine for allergy..it relieved the problem as long as the medicine remained in the body..this happened many times..then I tried homeopathy and only for 2 days doses, it never occurred again even after years.
Do you think that toddlers who get blisters all over the body will continue to get blisters throughout their whole life?
No, at some point they stop, even without treatment. Toddler immune system is constantly adapting to the world.
If you happened to be given homeopathy during the last episode, your parents think its a miracle, because they don’t understand how to think scientifically. Its a placebo for them, not you.
If it was not a coincidence, then if we do a study against a placebo, the treatment group will all have your instant miracles cures, while the placebo group won’t. But this never happens. Like ever. Not even in one study are homeopathic miracles observed. Homeopaths don’t even claim to expect any miracles in studies. They just lie like that to clients.
What actually happens is in both treatment and placebo groups, a few babies will no longer have any episodes, immediately following pills. Rest will have some more episodes before getting better. IN BOTH GROUPS.
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY STUDY IN WHICH HOMEOPATHY PRODUCED ANY MIRACLES. Homeopaths are only arguing that in some of the badly done studies conducted by them, their pills seemed to slightly work better than a placebo. Slightly. When real researchers come and supervise, not even that shows up.
Just look at the homeopath comparing Curare, the actual thing with Homeopathic nonsense.
Curare molecule is thoroughly understood. Its molecular structure, what receptors it interacts with and why it interacts with it – all are understood. All the symptoms it produces are due to blocking the very specific actions of the receptors it interacts with. This is very definitive science. It is a very well studied molecule, for more than a 100 years.
Homeopathic provings are just idiotic. Most of them have been done with no blinding, either not blinded to subject who would have known of curare (it was well known in pre-scientific medicine) or the homeopath summarizing notes is not blinded, allowing him to pick convenient symptoms.
In homeopathic dilutions which contain no molecules of curare, it would be an insult to chemistry and molecular biology to suggest any interaction. So homeopaths resort to imaginary magic energies (vitalism) to stupidly suggest interactions to explain imaginary effects.
Fact is, if I give a no molecule dilution of Curare to any homeopath, he or she won’t be able to identify it. They will insist they can, but they never proved it to anyone.
And look at these ridiculous challenges. Don’t prove it to me. Prove it to all those national science academies I listed. I will accept their judgment. These are highly respected agencies in science.
When all of you L-A-K-H-S of homeopaths are worthless to prove one fact about homeopathy scientifically in 200+ years, it says all one needs to know about your superstition and your mental capacity. Learning to say “quark” isn’t going to fool any body.
When I typed curare in Google Scholar, I got 1 lakh 77 thousand research papers, articles, books etc. That is how well studied curare is.
Curare molecule is too large to be absorbed. It is orally ineffective. It is too large to even enter the body when ingested, it will just be passed out unchanged. It has to be injected.
So understand how ridiculous it is to suggest curare in homeopathy sugar pills, that too curare that has been diluted to the point of non-existence and claiming it somehow causes effects similar to injected effects. You can’t tell fairy tales of how a huge curare molecule somehow imprints on a tiny water molecule or how it contains some mysterious energy (vitalism) when every effect of the molecule is fully explainable. Homeopaths get a big fat zero in chemistry and biology. They never understood any subjects, which is why they could not become real doctors and instead became fake doctors.
Homeopathy just lacks common sense to anyone who knows science. Homeopaths don’t understand any science. They just use science words to trick people who also don’t know science.
This is also the reason why Homeopaths must never be given a Bridge Course to practice Modern Medicine.
They will make modern medicine very dangerous because they don’t understand any science.
These people don’t understand simple chemistry and they have a very poor understanding of biology. Simply teaching modern pharmacology won’t fix anything.
At most, they can work in medical records room of a real hospital, where they can fetch paperwork.
Dear Mr. Chay……
I want to tell you that one can not judge anything before experiencing the phenomenon. If you can’t see the electrons with your naked eyes that doesn’t mean they aren’t present in the world. The ancient person were not aware of those electrons because there vision was limited upto solid matter. Just like that, if today we don’t able to see beyond that quarks particles that doesn’t mean that there is nothing beyond it. We will never able to find the most micro and initiative particles and most large form of matter that exists in the universe.
And today also there are many M.D. Doctors who have adapted homoeopathy after experiencing in their hospital only. They were also, once, not believing in the homoeopathy but still after experiencing they accepted it.
And the for your arguement that these are only pills, sugar pills. Just try to take it on your own. Will you dare it?
Juts check the physiopathology of of the medicines like curare and pilocarpine ( jaborandi name in homoeopathy) and lots other also and compare it with the symptoms of homoeopathy. You will definitely find the pathological relation.
And in the book of pharmacology, it have been written multiple times that some medicines are working differently and in opposite manner when they are introduced in different doses, in large doses and in small doses.
So,,,, I request you to follow the above mentioned things….
What is wrong with people like you? How are you passing out of schools?
Are you all completely useless when it comes to science?
What the hell does “experience” have to do with anything?
Does a male/childless obstetrician know more or does the woman who had a baby know more about child birth?
Are you going to listen to Stephen Hawking on black holes or are you going to insist that he first “experience” it first?
Does a cancer patient know more about cancer or an oncologist? Do you think if you survived cancer, it makes you an expert?
All of you have no mental capacity to understand what a research study is.
Every time an idiotic homeopath gets cornered, he starts blabbering about quantum physics and nano particles. You guys are in homeopathy because you were useless in understanding basic Newtonian Physics.
Refer to the 12 Science Agency post I made. Do you realize that there are actual Quantum Physicists and Nano technology experts, in fact the top most international experts in these national science academies who all collectively declared that Homeopathy is complete nonsense?
What medicines are working in opposite manner? Which book of pharmacology? Paste exact text.
There is no cure for Dementia caused due to Alzheimer’s Disease, in the modern medicine, whereas Homeopathy has a medicine for it. If it’s just a placebo, how does it work then..?
Homeopaths say they have a medicine for every disease. There is almost no disease where some homeopath hasn’t said they there is a medicine. Homeopaths just don’t care about facts and proof. Since their customers are very foolish, stories are enough for them.
They even say they have medicines for congenital diseases and irreversible diseases like Rabies in hydrophobia. When you ask for proof, they never have any studies. They just have some stories that can never be verified.
Alzheimer’s Disease is irreversible. Read at least the Wikipedia page on Alzheimer’s Disease to understand what it is.
Homeopathy has no treatment for anything, just lies. There was never any truth in anything Homeopathy ever said about any disease. 220 years and they completely failed to prove anything, which is obvious because those pills don’t actually contain anything.
Dear sir,
Next to God I believe in homeopathy just hoping to the readers if you are on the verge of giving up on your ailments at least give it a try .Now I am not giving examples of other people but I myself have experienced good results though I have not done any course in homeopathy but I am trying to prove that homeopathy heals. We all know we are what we eat the creator has created everything on the earth usefull to something on this earth in short everything is useful to something just as humans are social beings and depend on each other we can include plants and minerals also in the society so homeopathic medicine also is made of plants and their extracts and most of the desease we face are either due to lack of something or excess of something .Allopathy directly tried to cover the imbalance but it cures one decease only to generate a new desease and again cure the new desease to face another desease.homeopathy has a way to regulate the body it has regulatory effect hence very few side effects
Belief in homeopathy and belief in god are similar. They are beliefs.
No science. No proof. Just belief. But not medicine.
Thank you for not bothering with “examples”. “Examples” are not proof for science.
How do we “know” that a creator created everything? We don’t. We believe. There is a difference in knowing and believing. Unfortunately, we are too uneducated a country to know the difference and people who can’t even spell disease want to have a say about medicine.
Homeopathy Scam Excuses – playing for time.
Patient: The medicine is not working.
Homeopath: You just need to wait. It works slowly, on root cause.
Patient: I seem to have this side effect.
Homeopath: It’s actually part of the disease. Homeopathy is purging it out. Don’t blame the pill……. ever.
Patient: It is still not working.
Homeopath: Well, here are 100 things you should not have eaten or done. you probably did some of it. So it’s all your fault. Wait some more.
Patient: It’s been 6 months and my corn has dropped off.
Homeopath: See, it’s all because of homeopathy.
So, what’s the deal with homeopathy? – Popular science magazine
https://www.popsci.com/homeopathy-science/
Excerpt from
The SAWBONES Book: the Horrifying, Hilarious Road to Modern Medicine
(In US) By 1900, there were 111 homeopathic hospitals and 22 medical schools focused on the practice of homeopathy, but the discipline’s fall was as sudden as its rise. With improved understanding of the science of medicine, homeopathy quickly fell out of fashion and by 1923 only two schools in the US were still teaching it.
There is zero evidence to support the use of homeopathy. Homeopathy can be dangerous, in that it keeps people from seeking out actual medicine, and it’s also a rip-off. The fact that homeopathic cures are sold alongside actual medicine is one of the dumbest things that happens on Earth, and we’re writing this in 2018, so let’s just say it’s a heated competition.
So US realized homeopathy is dumb almost exactly 100 years ago and started using science for medicine. I wonder in which year India will realize it is dumb. Then it will also fall quickly here. But we are very slow, so maybe it will fall only slowly. I mean we still think bullshit and cow urine are medicines. What a backwards country we are.
This is the stupid “science” of homeopathy.
Berlin Wall – Berlin wall caused problems for Germany. These donkeys literally thought there is emotional magic in berlin wall that causes depression. So they “diluted” insoluble concrete from the wall and sold it as cure for depression and asthma. How stupid does one have to be to think like this?
Homeopathic Quacks Believe in the Healing Power of Drinking the Berlin Wall – Popular Mechanics
Let’s get this out of the way: homeopathy is total crap. There is zero (accredited, peer reviewed) science behind homeopathy, and it’s misguided at best and snakeoil at worse. But here’s a concept in homeopathy that doubles down on its path to the cuckoos nest: there are people that believe that drinking a diluted bit of concrete from the Berlin Wall can cure asthma. – written in Popular Mechanics
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a18179/homeopathic-quacks-believe-in-the-healing-power-of-drinking-the-berlin-wall/
This is why homeopathic “proving” is stupid. It calls random feelings as proof.
Dear the writer or editor of this post.
Have you studied homoeopathic? Or just publishing for the sake of modern medicine. In my opinion there must be some personal or financial interest to write this post.
Okay, let me tell One thing, has modern medicine got any cure or vaccine for the same? Why they are prescribing only vitamins? No medicine? You will argue that remdesivir is there, has it been proven effective in covid? Has trial results you have with you? If not you must not criticise any pathy keeping biased opinion in your mind. It’s your moral responsibility as I think. Rest, if there is financial interests, keep writing so as you will get more money. After all many media and media persons are corrupted and working for money.
May god give you intelligent brain.
Good luck for next article.
This is why I call homeopathic quacks donkey brains. Here are the same questions these idiots repeat. The questions are
1. Have you studied my quackery?
2. Are you paid by some pharma company?
3. Do you know that nothing in “allopathy” can cure?
Your quackery has been scientifically studied a few thousand times by scientists. That is what the whole article is about. For you, studying means have you been brainwashed by it? It’s like a religious fellow saying, but have you tried fully believing my silly religion first, when you tell him that his beliefs are obviously impossible.
I have read your homeopathic texts. Bullshit in every page. Every single page. None of the authors know how to think. The homeopathy authors you think are the best and smartest are also stupid. Its just that they are smarter than you, which is not a big deal.
There is no “pathy”, except your quackery and the straw-man allopathy you quacks invented, neither of which are medicine. Yes, obviously modern medicine has cures and vaccines for most of the common diseases so much so that diseases that were once common and life-threatening are now uncommon or minor inconveniences. Did Chloroquin work for malaria? Did you take Polio, BCG and MMR? Only 50% of kids lived to adulthood before modern medicine. Do you think we are chlorinating water to kill germs or for “miasma”?
What basis do you have to accuse anyone that they are paid by a pharma company to write? Nothing. Just throw an allegation and hope you have sown a doubt.
Other common questions are
1. So many people believe it, how can so many people be wrong?
2. How can something that is not true to believed for so long?
3. I believe it is true. I say I have seen it work. So how can it be false?
So you think that anything that is wrong is only believed by a small amount of people, for a very short period of time and you never believe anything wrongly. So you don’t know history. And you obviously think you are the most reasonable person in the world who is never fooled.
Now, let’s look at your statement: “May god give you intelligent brain.” …..”so as you will get more money”. Just look at the audacity of this homeopath donkey, Kiran Kulkarni!!!
The author is already intelligent. She wrote an article summarizing science on homeopathy showing that it is just a superstition that all scientists in the world will agree with, while a donkey brain like you has no capacity to understand even one science paper.
Kiran Kulkarni, it is you who is the brainless donkey here with no hope of ever being intelligent. It is you who still thinks diseases are caused by miasma and life energy, you education-less ignorant fool.
You are also the one making money by prescribing empty sugar pills and charging tens of thousands of rupees for just acting like you are treating asthma, with one paisa of sugar and nothing else. The rest is profit for homeo pharma and you.
You fake doctor scammers sell 16 billion dollars of fake medicine per year. And you have the audacity of falsely charging that a writer for a free web site is making money falsely and unethically?
Lol, you use allopathy and see how mentally unbalanced you are. Taking this fight personally, the most pathetic comment i have seen in this tab. I hope your mental sickness gets cured via homeopathy one day. And please read your own comment and tell me, does that look like a mentally balanced person has spoken about his observations and views.
True, arguing to lunatics like you mostly can hurt my brain. This is public service. I am sacrificing some of my mental comfort for the country. See how patriotic I am 🙂 .
Apparently, I am one of the few sane people among a mob of lunatics. Almost anywhere outside India, I would be a simple normal person with a scientifically educated viewpoint. But here in this lunatic asylum of the homeopaths and other quacks, it is “mentally unbalanced” to say that cow dung and urine aren’t medicine and that pills that literally have nothing in them have obviously and already proven to be placebos.
If you read my comments and instead of reacting to me, actually understand the arguments and follow the links I provided, for that matter, the links the author has provided, you will be less likely to be classified as mentally retarded.
True homeopathy works like charm. It is a paid article for sure.
I know that many of you t-h-i-n-k you are smart, or at least better than average intelligence people. But let me tell you that you are nothing of that type.
After all the information I provided, if you people are unable to understand how stupid homeopathy really is because you t-h-i-n-k you saw it work, you neither have good education nor do you know how to think and analyze by looking up research.
I provided studies, scientist explanations, statements from all major scientific institutions, gave references to government reports, cited reputable newspapers and world class scientific journals and I even gave psychology explanations by professors in major universities to explain how you got fooled into thinking it is working when it isn’t.
None of you would even touch any of the points presented.
If you still are unable to understand any of this, I am wondering how low your intelligence and education must be. People with average intelligence (90+ IQ) should be able to understand all this.
I am trying to understand where you are on this scale. Are you dull, deficient or feeble-minded? Or is this just pure, 100% ignorance from useless education?
Levine and Marks IQ classification
80–90 Dullness
70–80 Border-line deficiency, sometimes classifiable as dullness, often as feeble-mindedness
< 70 Definite feeble-mindedness
An average college graduate should understand basic things like correlation, causation, basic understanding of what studies are. You all obviously don't.
I mean, seriously, who but someone with the brain of a donkey thinks in 2020 that diseases are caused by miasma and thinks solutions can be infinitely diluted? Who but idiots who never read one page of biology or chemistry? That was stupid even in 1920.
If you are stupid enough to say that homeopathy is real, your degree needs to be taken and burnt. Whatever college said that they educated you need to be shut down.
Your intelligence and education is only good enough to sweep the streets or clean toilets, not anything more than that. Your education is like that Bihar state topper from 4 years ago who said she studied “prodigal” science instead of political science and thought it was about cooking. Your chemistry and biology knowledge is like that. The only thing you homeopaths need to be doing is being really ashamed of yourself, apologizing and returning people’s money for giving fake treatments. That is if you have any honesty or integrity, which you don’t.
You spent how many years of education and still are dumb enough to think that miasma cause disease and not even understand dilution?
Mental helpline number : 1860 266 2345 (Delhi)
You really need it, Mr. Chay. Making personal comments and you don’t even know how to debate, i bet you didnt even considered any of the opinion. That’s like a blinded fool who’s brainwashed against homeopathy. Best of luck for your future, cause I’m worried about your mental health. Take a look at your own comments, and think again about the symptoms of insecurity you are actually showing. Good luck for your future. ?
Debate is between intelligent people Kapil. None of you are fit for any debate on any topic.
I am not debating any of you. I am educating you fools.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/08/amitabh-bachchan-india-coronavirus/615310/
I have read a lot of bullshit from so called mr chay. He must be critic and a nonsense person in his life . He does not know about homeopathy and only he is barking and barking . I request all the viewers not to read this type of comments by these type of bullshit people. And at last i don’t condem any pathy because all of them have their own advantages and disadvantages. There are a lot of diseases which could only be cured by homeopathy and on other side there are also many diseases which could be cured by allopathy only . So there is no point of condemning a pathy . Both should go hand by hand.
No my dear. Unlike you, I am an educated person, well-informed of exactly what the science is saying about homeopathy and how they proved it as pure bullshit.
You on the other hand, are a proper i d i o t. Everything homeopaths say is bullshit. Everything. There are no miasms or vital energy. Those are ignorant beliefs. They teach you the history of these ignorant ideas even in school and you guys seem to have no real education.
Nobody has to believe what I say. They just have to look what the whole world is saying. You liars constantly pretend that I am the only critic. I have already proven with reports that I am merely saying what all real governments and all real scientists all over the world are saying. You can’t address the fact that all scientists in the world are saying homeopathy is bullshit.
This is what the reality is:
Homeopathy Is Not an Effective Treatment, Experts Say – Time
Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds – Guardian
Homeopathy effective for 0 out of 68 illnesses, study – Independent
Homeopathy is not an effective treatment for any health condition, report concludes – British Medical Journal
The debate about homeopathy is over. These verdicts prove it – Spectator
Bireswar Saran, a little down in the board, said Samuel Hahnemann is the father of Allopathy, not just Homeopathy. That’s exactly correct. Allopathy is a lie invented by homeopaths. Neither Homeopathy nor Allopathy can cure anything.
What actual doctors practice is not Allopathy. It is science based medicine. You need to get good marks in science to study Medicine. People who get bad marks in science go to homeopathy and get a degree in bullshit. No one who got good marks in science goes to Homeopathy.
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Quack arguments
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I borrowed this from a wiki on bullshit. These are the same tactics are quacks use. All of this is true for homeo bullshit.
1. Anecdotal evidence: Prefers to use testimonials over actual studies. (it worked for me, so I can ignore all scientific evidence)
2. Panacea: Is a simple idea that purports to be the one answer to many problems (often including many diseases). (like cures like)
3. Pseudoscience: Has a “scientific-sounding” reason for how it works, but little to no actual science behind it; especially:
1. Science woo: Uses words that sound scientific but make no sense in their context (nano particles)
2. Quote-mined studies that, if bent properly, appear to support the woo.
3. Appeal to authority: Claims that a scientific authority supports the woo; this is usually combined with a quote mine.
4. Studies from different, unrelated fields.
5. Disdain for objective, randomized experimental controls, especially double-blind testing (which is kind of what makes epidemiology actually, y’know, work.
4. A supernatural and/or paranormal involvement; failing that, the preternatural (life force)
5. Persecution complex: Claims to be persecuted, usually perpetrated by the government, “Big Pharma”, or the entire worldwide scientific community (see Galileo gambit). Usually accompanied by a claim that the public and/or scientists are blind to the discovery, despite attempts to alert them.
6. A hypothesis that remains virtually unchanged for years or decades, despite changes in the evidence for the woo. This is sometimes presented as a strength. (homeo “laws”)
Good work done by the Print science writers. Thanks to the Print management team for sponsoring science articles and keeping science journalists on it’s payroll.
Please keep educating the Indian public on the scientific method. most of our country men do not know how science arrives at conclusions.
So true.
Nobody in our Indian public knows what science is.
But everybody is ready to start a clueless lecture on limitations on science.
For them, all blind beliefs are true, it’s science that is not smart enough to understand how their crazy beliefs are actually true. Just give it unlimited time.
Our terrible press loves writing stories about how some questionable study proved some indirect benefit of an old belief, but does not write how a thousand beliefs were debunked or more importantly, h-o-w they were debunked.
One answer to all the nonsense about your homeopathy is that if the homeopathic treatment is wrong:
How are millions of people in the world still being healed by homeopathic remedies?
You should only be a part of this mafia which is making money by fooling the people
There are exactly Z-E-R-O people that were ever healed by homeopathy. Exactly z-e-r-o. Not even o-n-e.
The millions who took homeopathy were healed by their own body over time, with no help whatsoever from homeopathy.
This is the conclusion after a *few thousand studies* that proved that homeopathy had no effect over a placebo.
If it is a self-healing disease, most are, you will be healed with or without homeopathy, purely because of your natural healing abilities. Homeopathy does not assist them in any way.
Learn science or be fooled by quacks!
Homoeopathy cures , and cures completely. Modern medicine never cures, it only suppresses .This is the difference .The founder of homoeopathy,Samuel Hahnemann left Allopathic practice ( he was also the father of Allopathy )as he was disgusted with its unscientific ,unethical and ineffective results.He was driven out a no. of times due to the opposition of allopathic doctors ( for their business interest ).But finally ,the whole world accepted him .Homoeopathy is based on a natural law of cure unlike the so called modern medicine .
Homeopathy does not do anything. There is no medicine of any kind in those sugar pills. It is total fake. It was scientifically proven to do nothing.
Both homeopathy and allopathy exist only according to Homeopaths. Samuel Hahnemann was using primitive, non-scientific medicine at first. He was unhappy and made his own non-scientific medicine.
Medicine today has no relation to the completely stupid medicine that Hahnemann learned and labeled as Allopathy.
Suppresses, suppresses is stupid parrot talk by homeopaths to mislabel scientific management of diseases. If you think you can “cure” diabetes “completely” with sugar pills, you are a fool.
Whole world is calling homeopathy bullshit, except India. But India literally thinks even bullshit is medicine. See all the scientist findings I presented below. Every reputable scientific organization finds homeopathy to be total fake.
Just type into Google – homeopathy bullshit
Learn!
There is no natural law in homeopathy, not even one. No one outside homeopathy accepts any of those idiot laws. Homeopathy only has imaginary laws that only education-less idiots can believe because they don’t have a concept of proof. Problem is in India, even post-graduates can be fools because all they learned is to repeat things, not actually understand anything.
Since your education completely failed you, at least read some Wikipedia. These are facts, not anyone’s opinion.
Homeopathy or homoeopathy is a pseudoscientific system of alternative medicine.
All relevant scientific knowledge about physics, chemistry, biochemistry and biology gained since at least the mid-19th century confirms that homeopathic remedies have no active content. They are biochemically inert, and have no effect on any known disease. Hahnemann’s theory of disease, centered around principles he termed miasms, is inconsistent with subsequent identification of viruses and bacteria as causes of disease. Clinical trials have been conducted, and generally demonstrated no objective effect from homeopathic preparations. The fundamental implausibility of homeopathy as well as a lack of demonstrable effectiveness has led to it being characterized within the scientific and medical communities as quackery and nonsense.
After assessments of homeopathy, national and international bodies have recommended the withdrawal of government funding. Australia, the United Kingdom, Switzerland and France, as well as the European Academies’ Science Advisory Council, and the Commission on Pseudoscience and Research Fraud of Russian Academy of Sciences each concluded that homeopathy is ineffective, and recommended against the practice receiving any further funding. Notably, France and England, where homeopathy was formerly prevalent, are in the process of removing all public funding. The National Health Service in England ceased funding homeopathic remedies in November 2017 and asked the Department of Health in the UK to add homeopathic remedies to the blacklist of forbidden prescription items, and France will remove funding by 2021. In November 2018, Spain also announced moves to ban homeopathy and other pseudotherapies.
Outside of the alternative medicine community, scientists have long considered homeopathy a sham or a pseudoscience, and the mainstream medical community regards it as quackery. There is an overall absence of sound statistical evidence of therapeutic efficacy, which is consistent with the lack of any biologically plausible pharmacological agent or mechanism.
Dear un-educatable homeo believers, Homeopathy is ok if your senile uncle prescribes it and you buy some sugar pills for Rs. 10 or Rs. 20 for things that never really needed any medicine in the first place because the body can take care of it mostly.
But to consider these stupid quacks doctors is embarrassing. Most of them don’t have 12th class level intelligence.
And neither do you. Learn statistics. Learn why it is not so simple to say if something worked, especially if it is supposed to be working 2 months from starting to use it. The primitiveness of your thinking is just pathetic. Learn why research is done this way. You don’t become modern by buying a Rs. 20,000 smart phone. At least use it to get some basic education.
Don’t just come up with stupid excuses for why you don’t have to study science or math. Think for a while why every scientist in the world says this is fake. Learn why they are saying the proof against it is so strong that it is a waste to even to 1 more study on it. Learn what proof is, it isn’t what you think it is. Homeopathy’s proving is really dumb nonsense, not proof.
Everyone likes to think they are smart. No one likes to think of themselves as below average intelligence because it is difficult to imagine that. But all of you are definitely well below average intelligence. In 2020, if you walking around with no basic understanding of biology, physics, chemistry, statistics, why a study is done, what did they teach you in all those years? You are an embarrassment to yourself, the schools and silly colleges that passed you and even the country.
Don’t think like an 18th century fellow who thinks body is operated by vital energy or prana. Read about cells, how they work and what happens in diseases. Read reputable science sources, not whatever mindless junk that pops up on your phone from some facebook post or whatsapp message.
Learn how not to think like an uneducated fellow. Learn how the brain makes us believe in stupid things.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/11012900/Why-do-we-believe-in-homeopathy-Ten-tricks-the-brain-plays-on-us.html
By Psychology Professor Ben Ambridge, University of Liverpool
The first is the failure to take into account a phenomenon known as “regression to the mean” (which simply means “going back to the average”). Suppose you throw darts at a dartboard blindfolded. If you get a very low score with your first dart (say a 2), it is almost certain that the score on your next throw will be higher, simply because 18 of the 20 slices (and the bull’s-eye) give a score that is greater than two. Similarly, because most illnesses come and go of their own accord, then if you feel at your absolute worst on Monday, you’ll almost certainly feel a lot better by Friday, whether or not you take a homeopathic remedy on Tuesday. But if you do, you’ll probably credit the improvement to the pill.
Now go learn how research studies counter these thought defects.
Hai frnds…and my dear homeopathic friends….
Just leave and ignore the bloody shits and false perception of homoepathy by unprofessional uneducated and mindless fellows….
Lets treat the patient wholely and let them gi e cure through our homeo medicines…
They were just saying its a placebo..and asking about the proofs ..but where is the proof that they were sugar pills…does any one prooved that they r only sugar pills..
If anyone came to proove then give them cantharis in high potency or many we had right..so lets see what happen….as they were sugar pills ..i think they shouldn’t get prooved by the remedies….
Just chill and lets be a true homeopath
“where is the proof that they were sugar pills…does any one prooved that they r only sugar pills?”
Yes, fake doctor. Researchers proved it a FEW THOUSAND times that it is nothing but a placebo. But you education-less quacks obviously are incapable in understanding scientific proof, when you can’t even spell “proved”. The article above that you didn’t read provided links to some of that research.
This is why every scientific organization, not just doctors, but all scientists and every major health department has declared that Homeopathy is total fake. There is absolutely nothing medical in it. That is the ONLY REASON why it has no side effects, because it is not a medicine in the first place. You just do drama with patients and wait until things normally get better (regression to mean, which none of you understand). You lie to them it is slow acting when it is non-acting.
When I was 17 , developed 5 corns under my right foot. Those were so painful and doctor advised me to remove them by surgery. I got afraid of sugery and the doctor told me, then you go for a good Homoeopath. I visited one Homoeopath and he prescribed me Calcarea fuorica 6x . 2 tablets twice daily for 3 months. Even after 2 months, there was no signs of improvement. One day when I got up in morning, suddenly I discovered that there was not a single corn under my foot and the healing was from inside to out side.
I can challenge anybody, who claims that Homoeopathy doesn’t work…. Come to me…. I will show you how it works.
Corns/warts are one of the things quacks easily trick science-uneducated people like you with placebos because they go away on their own. You can’t understand statistics. Your surgeon probably knew homeopathy is just a placebo. If you are willing to wait for 2 months or some long time like that, they will eventually drop off, even with no treatment. Surgery is only if you don’t want to wait. He should have given you salicylic acid pads though. He probably tried that and in some cases, it might not work. In that case, just wait.
If you wait, most simple diseases will go away on their own. This is what is meant by “Regression to Mean”. You can bring the horse to the water, but you can’t make it drink. You are impossible to educate.
What will you do if anybody “comes to you”? You don’t have any intelligence. You will just say, it works… it works. That is called ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. Look it up. Also look up why it is not considered as proof.
Google this: Wishing Away Warts
I already posted it at 12 June, 2020 at 3:10 am
Let’s have a practical experiment for those who have not believe in homeopathy.The real knowledge is comes after experiencing something,if you says mango and honey is sweet how you differentiate it ,just by taste them not by reading some literature.
So my dear just experience anything than come to any opinion.
Let’s buy medicine LACHESIS 200 and swallow those 4 tiny little pills daily for a week if you got any animal dream then go through Lachesis literature may god break your prejudice gogles.
What you are saying is they basically don’t teach even the tiniest bit of what research is before telling you to use a “doctor” title in your quack homeo colleges.
Anyone who knows the slightest bit of research will laugh at the sheer ignorance in your proposal. Homeopaths are ill-educated fools.
I will give you even better and equally silly proposals.
Sneak into a homeo medicine shop and change labels on all homeo bottles. No one will ever know the difference. Or replace them sugar pills wet with simple tap water. No one can tell the difference between them.
Or give you 29 tap water sugar pill bottles and 1 with LACHESIS 200, without telling you which one is LACHESIS 200. Take a different one every day and tell me by your animal dreams, which day was LACHESIS 200 day, after a month.
Homeopaths are so dumb that they did not do this obvious test that anyone who is even slightly educated would have suggested. So they think proving is real.
OK Homeopaths, doctor-actors, school time for you.
If I tell you that this special pill (LACHESIS 200) causes snake dreams and tell you to take it, there will be increased chance that you will actually have snake dreams. This is because of the way our mind works. You great master, Samuel Hahnemann, did not really understand this and no one after him as well.
Did the pill cause snake dreams? Did you prove it that it did? No, not until you tested against a fake special pill that looks, smells exactly like your special pill.
Next, the important part is randomization. You must collect some people and randomly divide them into 2 groups. You cannot take homeo-believers in one group, who may be more prone to imagining whatever they are told and put others in the second group. You have to randomly divide them. Use a computer or a coin.
Next, they should not know which group they are in. And the person who gives them the pills must also not know which group they are in and whether he is giving them special pill or fake special pill. This is called double-blinding. Otherwise, they will pick up slight clues and behave accordingly.
Now you will always find that maybe 5 out of 20 people say yes, they had a snake dream in test group. But the control group will also around 5 or so people saying the same thing. So your special pill is not special at all. But what if 6 people in test and 4 in control do, then did you prove it. No. You have to show a bigger difference. To understand how much, you must learn statistics and without that, explaining is useless. All this is very basic knowledge.
All homeo proving is fake and stupid. They don’t randomize, they don’t double-blind. They don’t use statistics. So nobody with a brain cares. Only uneducated and dumb homeopaths think it means proof.
Not even one homeopathy proving was ever proven scientifically. Nothing in homeopathy was ever proven. It is all fake. It is ignorant to not know this. But it is very foolish to not understand even after all this is explained. There seem to not be even average intelligence people in homeopathy, or they just act like they don’t understand.