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Socrates of south India! Ridiculous. UNESCO never gave such a title to anyone. These leftist media are spreading false information all through the years. Shame on you print!!
Calling Periyar Socrates in this article is unintelligible and feels more like a “clickbait”. Whereas people arguing about how reservation brought in equality and abolished “Brahminical patriarchy “,it started another era of casteist chauvinism. Equality is not opposing a set of people to establish authority and calling it a movement.Little did Ee Ve Ra or his devotees wanted to establish this sense into people and rationalise them. All he wanted was patronise his communist, polygamous and anti-Hindu ideologies, he was not an atheist, he didn’t bend an ear about discrimination in other major religions. This man is a sexist , chauvinist and an influential con man. Though the Brahmins are a minority in the state, they are doing far better than all the so called rationalists in social strata, adding fuel to the fire. Keep opposing and make bigotry statements, after all that’s the only thing you can do!
I see that economic progress is being mistaken for social progress. No doubt TN is a progressive state doing well in the Economic parameters, but the article was about social emancipation of the Downtrodden and Women. What is the status of Dalits in Tamil Nadu. What is the representation of minorities in the state politics. How many Dalit CMs or Minority Community Chief Secretaries have been there. The Dalits are as under represented in Tamil Nadu as in the rest of the country.
As for Mr Docherla’s comment about Brahmins holding most of the important posts and political positions in TN, where has he got these ‘facts’ from. Surprised. Most of the power in TN is wielded and held by the Forward caste leaders.
Periyar’s legacy has been forgotten. Until Dalits get emancipated the dream would remain work in progress. I leave the post on this positive note.
I agree with the other commentators. There is nothing in this article that proves what the title says. I did not get what was common between Periyar or Socrates. Socrates was a philosopher but not a reformist. Periyar was predominantly a reformist not a philosopher. Socrates delved into the unknown whereas Periyar tried correcting the existing dogma. Socrates was not a chauvinist or a nationalist or a casteist while Periyar encouraged Tamil racial & linguistic chauvinism which we can still see today (they refuse to speak in other languages or watch movies or books in other languages even if they know them when they encounter outsiders), and also caste chauvinism rather than caste eradication as a result of which Tamil polity is so fractured that politically, they can neither unite with even their own neighbouring states (let alone rest of India) nor can any of the castes actually rule the state. Most of the power in the state is still held by Brahmins in various positions despite forming only 4% of the population.
The title is misleading. Patriarchy is not only prevalent but flourishing in all communities and religions in India. Lot of the per-independence Tamil Leaders encouraged women’s emancipation but 10 decades down the line the status of women remains subservient.
As regards Brahminism, to portray all ills that the society inherits and propagates till this day is a result of Brahmincal tyranny is far fetched. The Brahmins in Tamil Nadu do not wield any influence in matters of state or the society. If they did or continue to do so what has the Dravidian movement achieved in more than 7 decades.
The society has moved on. All communities including the forward ones are clamouring to be classified as ‘backward’. In effect the only community that cannot claim any share in the social or governmental benefits is the Brahmin community. Even if a Brahmin is destitute and poor he cannot be given any state benefits. That’s the new reservation equation.
what has the Dravidian movement achieved in more than 7 decades ??? It brought social justice and representation of under privileged by bringing in 65 % reservation first time in India. Brahmins did not stop from gaining influence, even present chief secretary is Brahmin Janta Party stooge and literally ruling the state. They are trying hook or crook, but it wont work. TN busted the myth that reservation is not seen here as regressive like brahminical north India, here it is seen as social empowerment. The result is TN is in NO 2 in GDP in whole of INDIA. TN was less developed than gujarat before 25 years, now even after modi took gujarat it is in No5. We achieved it without brahmins and we ll always keep them out of our sight
Jayalalitha is a Brahmin Iyengar.
Rajaji and Bharathiyar are Brahmins too
Dravidians should stop being Dumb Idiotic fools.
Dalit cannot be a CM in Tamilnadu.
Periyar’s madness is a result of ur stupidity
Socrates of south India! Ridiculous. UNESCO never gave such a title to anyone. These leftist media are spreading false information all through the years. Shame on you print!!
Calling Periyar Socrates in this article is unintelligible and feels more like a “clickbait”. Whereas people arguing about how reservation brought in equality and abolished “Brahminical patriarchy “,it started another era of casteist chauvinism. Equality is not opposing a set of people to establish authority and calling it a movement.Little did Ee Ve Ra or his devotees wanted to establish this sense into people and rationalise them. All he wanted was patronise his communist, polygamous and anti-Hindu ideologies, he was not an atheist, he didn’t bend an ear about discrimination in other major religions. This man is a sexist , chauvinist and an influential con man. Though the Brahmins are a minority in the state, they are doing far better than all the so called rationalists in social strata, adding fuel to the fire. Keep opposing and make bigotry statements, after all that’s the only thing you can do!
I see that economic progress is being mistaken for social progress. No doubt TN is a progressive state doing well in the Economic parameters, but the article was about social emancipation of the Downtrodden and Women. What is the status of Dalits in Tamil Nadu. What is the representation of minorities in the state politics. How many Dalit CMs or Minority Community Chief Secretaries have been there. The Dalits are as under represented in Tamil Nadu as in the rest of the country.
As for Mr Docherla’s comment about Brahmins holding most of the important posts and political positions in TN, where has he got these ‘facts’ from. Surprised. Most of the power in TN is wielded and held by the Forward caste leaders.
Periyar’s legacy has been forgotten. Until Dalits get emancipated the dream would remain work in progress. I leave the post on this positive note.
I agree with the other commentators. There is nothing in this article that proves what the title says. I did not get what was common between Periyar or Socrates. Socrates was a philosopher but not a reformist. Periyar was predominantly a reformist not a philosopher. Socrates delved into the unknown whereas Periyar tried correcting the existing dogma. Socrates was not a chauvinist or a nationalist or a casteist while Periyar encouraged Tamil racial & linguistic chauvinism which we can still see today (they refuse to speak in other languages or watch movies or books in other languages even if they know them when they encounter outsiders), and also caste chauvinism rather than caste eradication as a result of which Tamil polity is so fractured that politically, they can neither unite with even their own neighbouring states (let alone rest of India) nor can any of the castes actually rule the state. Most of the power in the state is still held by Brahmins in various positions despite forming only 4% of the population.
The title is misleading. Patriarchy is not only prevalent but flourishing in all communities and religions in India. Lot of the per-independence Tamil Leaders encouraged women’s emancipation but 10 decades down the line the status of women remains subservient.
As regards Brahminism, to portray all ills that the society inherits and propagates till this day is a result of Brahmincal tyranny is far fetched. The Brahmins in Tamil Nadu do not wield any influence in matters of state or the society. If they did or continue to do so what has the Dravidian movement achieved in more than 7 decades.
The society has moved on. All communities including the forward ones are clamouring to be classified as ‘backward’. In effect the only community that cannot claim any share in the social or governmental benefits is the Brahmin community. Even if a Brahmin is destitute and poor he cannot be given any state benefits. That’s the new reservation equation.
what has the Dravidian movement achieved in more than 7 decades ??? It brought social justice and representation of under privileged by bringing in 65 % reservation first time in India. Brahmins did not stop from gaining influence, even present chief secretary is Brahmin Janta Party stooge and literally ruling the state. They are trying hook or crook, but it wont work. TN busted the myth that reservation is not seen here as regressive like brahminical north India, here it is seen as social empowerment. The result is TN is in NO 2 in GDP in whole of INDIA. TN was less developed than gujarat before 25 years, now even after modi took gujarat it is in No5. We achieved it without brahmins and we ll always keep them out of our sight
Jayalalitha is a Brahmin Iyengar.
Rajaji and Bharathiyar are Brahmins too
Dravidians should stop being Dumb Idiotic fools.
Dalit cannot be a CM in Tamilnadu.
Periyar’s madness is a result of ur stupidity