New Delhi: More than a month after the Union Cabinet approved better pay benefits to Central Armed Police Forces (CAPF), the process has been mired in alleged ‘foul play’ by Indian Police Service (IPS) officers.
At loggerheads with their counterparts from the IPS, two separate CAPF delegations met BJP General Secretary Ram Madhav and Lok Sabha Speaker Om Birla to apprise the leaders of their grievances, ThePrint has learnt.
According to sources in the CAPF, one delegation met Birla last week and another saw Madhav Monday.
“The tussle is really blowing up now. It has started manifesting in routine work and interactions between cadre and IPS officers, so we are trying to apprise the political leadership of our concerns because we want the issue to be resolved soon,” said a senior officer from the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) who did not wish to be named.
The meetings with Madhav and Birla came in the backdrop of several letters that were written to Home Minister Amit Shah by some CAPF officers. The letters alleged that IPS officers were deliberately thwarting release of the Non-Functional Financial Upgradation (NFFU) grant to CAPFs despite a Supreme Court ruling in February ordering the same.
According to several retired and serving CAPF officers who ThePrint spoke to, Madhav is principally in agreement with them and has assured that he will talk to Shah after 15 August.
The grievances
The SC had in February extended the status of organised group ‘A’ services (OGAS) to the CAPF officers and granted them NFFU — putting an end to a decade-old battle to attain pay parity and promotion at par with their counterparts in the IPS.
NFFU refers to the process by which whenever an IAS officer gets empanelled at a particular rank at the Centre, all their Group-A service counterparts also get upgraded to the same rank on a non-functional basis after two years, irrespective of whether they are actually promoted or not.
While CAPF officers insist that the grant of OGAS to them necessitates an upgradation of their Recruitment Rules (RRs), the IPS top brass argues that such a change is not necessary – and this disagreement lies at the heart of the ongoing tussle.
According to CAPF officers, the revision of RRs will ensure that promotions and arrears are decided in sync with their newly attained OGAS. Without doing so, the grant of NFFU will be “meaningless,” they insist.
The CRPF officer quoted above also said that upgradation of the RRs will ensure that IPS officers stop coming on deputation to their forces at top positions.
According to the Department of Personnel and Training (DoPT) rules, in ‘Group A’ organised services, appointments up to the position of additional director general (ADG) can take place only through promotion from the cadre. Lateral entry or appointment through deputation is only permissible if the former is not possible.
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The letters
In one of the letters written to Shah on 5 August, a serving CRPF officer has said: “As per norms of OGAS all the posts up to the rank of ADG must be filled by cadre officers. But as per Recruitment R – 2010 of CRPF officers, which is in vogue, 20 per cent posts of DIG and 50 per cent post of IG are being filled through deputation, i.e., by IPS officers.
“Out of four posts of ADG and four posts of SDG, only 1 post of ADG is being filled up by cadre officer. The only post of DG is being filled up by IPS officer on deputation. Unless fresh cadre review is undertaken by amending the RR at par with RRs of other OGAS…the cadre officers of CAPF are not going to get the benefits and the intention of your Government as well as the spirit of the orders of the Hon’ble Supreme Court and the Hon’ble High Court of Delhi would remain unfilled,” the letter said.
Additionally, letters have been written by serving officers to their respective director generals in the CRPF and BSF.
“CAPF officers would never even write letters to their IGs earlier…Now they are being forced to write to the Home Minister, their DGs, run from court to court,” said a BSF officer. “What does it do to the morale of the forces?”
“There is a visible revolt in all the forces…If IPS officers keep blocking our promotions and pay, the matter will explode,” he said.
‘Unnecessary sensationalism’
A senior IPS officer, however, who was a member of the IPS Association said the CAPFs are indulging in “unnecessary sensationalism”.
“It is nowhere stipulated that being granted OGAS means you will become a closed cadre, and IPS officers cannot come on deputation in your force anymore,” the IPS officer said. “Even the SC order does not say that. That is why we have filed a clarificatory petition in the court and are awaiting its response.”
The IPS officer also said they are not opposed to granting NFFU to CAPFs. “We obviously want to give them their due…But just want to protect the central deputation of IPS officers as well since that is important for the overall health of these forces,” he said.
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Non IPS officers Unionism causing dangerous effect in Internal Security of Nation concerned with civil Administration.. Hence it seems the DGP is not ditiful or strict to deal such dishonest NonIPS officers in his Police Organization. Shameless DGPs..
Comment and Message
To
Shameless DGPs
CAPF
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Hon’ble sir,
Don’t forget, CAPF is purely a Armed Police Force of union working in between civil public.
It must be Administrated with Police administrative. It can’t be a Military or different then Police department in any manner.
Without IPS cadre you can’t imagine any Police Department.
This is not Seria or Pak to prevail General Shashan of forces. It is a perfect India but with few greedy people looking for Non functional benefits and to destroy Policing Policies of nation against Internal(civilians) Security of Nation till we had.
Non IPS officers misleading Political Leaders and Courts etc and leading to “Apne pair par kud kulhadi maarna”
Govt. can’t be foolish ever..
Govt. Never buy “gadhey” on the price of “ghodey”.
If Non IPS price is higher then IPS then no way to continue with Non IPS anymore.
Also Unionism of NonIPS is in observation. “Shikaar kud bha kud fastha Chala ja Raha hai Bhai..”
You are requested to kindly be logical, technical and reasonable about Central Police Department..
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IPS banney ka shouk ho tho kabiliyath ke bal par bano.. Yun Political or Courts ko mislead karkey math bano..
Ground level performance of Non-IPS officers are truly worst causing too much loses no one give you”Non functional” benefits..
No DGP will undertake all such orders against “Administration Policy” of Nation.
Courts or Politics can’t interface Administration and Constitution of nation.
So stop dreaming ??
Anymore.. ha.. ha..
Jai Hind.. Jai Jawan.. Jai Ho BHOLEY SHANKAR BABA..
Om Nanah Shivaya..
Your’s ever
Om Sipahi
There is no need of IPS presence in CAPFs is based on Following arguments. First, that IPS officers have no experience of cutting-edge leadership in these organisations at the company and battalion level. Second, the cadres of these CAPFs are now capable of leading them on their own. Third, these organisations have a primarily military character and, therefore, a civil service like the IPS has no useful role to play in them.
Another fact is that these forces have a large home-grown cadre of leaders, only a fraction of who is able to reach the supervisory levels. The rich operational experience of these officers gets wasted as most supervisory and all policy level positions are reserved for the IPS officers. Ab initio lack of avenues and further curtailment through constitutionally untenable reservation of higher posts for IPS is making these officers restive. Resentment and dissatisfaction is manifested in large number of voluntary retirements, and plethora of court cases relating to personnel matters.
The Officers who Have been served for 30–35 years in the CAPFs at various levels,They can vouch that the leadership provided by cadre officers is much better than Army, or IPS officers, given the intimate knowledge of men they command, ethos and operational philosophy of the CAPFs
IPS officers, who join not below the level of DIG, have no clue of what these forces are, what are their ethos and operational philosophy. Some of them are so ignorant that they seem to think that the difference between a 60mm mortar and an 81mm mortar is just that of 21mm. In fact, it took a lot of effort to dissuade an IPS inspector-general from recommending manpower reduction of 81mm mortar detachment while preparing restructuring proposals. Another officer, who is presently commanding one of the two theatres of the BSF, while on familiarisation visit prior to induction is said to have exclaimed where the Army was because he thought that it was the Army which was deployed ahead of BSF on borders.
One vacancy each in the BSF and the CRPF at level of additional DG is for the cadre officers, and at least 10 more officers are eligible at any given time to be promoted to that rank despite rules which impede rather than help their progression.
These additional DGs are ready to take over command any day and they will do a much better job of guiding these forces to face up to any challenge than the present IPS lot.
Lack of vision and depth of knowledge about these forces leads them to look for quick-fix solutions and populist orders which are detrimental to the discipline. So we had a DG of BSF who would issue on-the-spot orders for posting of whosoever stood up in his “sainik sammelan” and asked for a home posting.
There have been several instances of CAPF officers going to the court over issues of stagnation, discrimination and deprivation of financial and promotional benefits.
The contention of these officers had been that most of the promotional benefits at the highest level of the organisation are reserved for the IPS cadre even when the majority of them do not have field experience.
This also happens when the commissioned officers of the CAPFs are selected by the Union Public Service Commission despite the fact that most these IPS officers lack field experience.
It is found that most of them simply are one-exam wonders who happened to be lucky. Not all of them have the ability to lead and guide these forces and give value addition. The only saving grace is the dedication of cadre officers which keeps the momentum going.
IPS officers lack expertise in their own domain of policing and are unable to guide subordinates even in basic functions of policing and investigation. Numerous instances can be quoted starting from handling of the episode, , , murder,2G spectrum case. The public at large is given no importance with the focus mainly on political masters.
Their aim of coming to these armed forces is simply to avoid a political arrangement detrimental to their interests in states. Deputation to the Central Armed Forces under such circumstances provides them with opportunity to work in their home state with vast resources of these armed forces at their beck and call.
The argument that only about 50 IPS officers are on deputation to these forces is aimed at obfuscating the fact that these posts are all held at higher levels, thus depriving the cadre officers even of the limited avenues of progression.
As far as corruption is concerned, the less said the better. The case of an IPS officer utilising large number of personnel withdrawn from borders and other resources for the is of recent vintage. This must be granted that they operate with exceptional show of unity to protect their own in such cases even if they have personal differences.
Any Rule cannot override the constitutional right of cadre officers to be considered for the posts that the IPS have usurped in these specialised forces. That besides continued induction of IPS officers, who do not have training or domain knowledge of the functioning of these forces, is leading to serious compromise of national security and also dilution of policing standards.
It’s high time that the government reviews its policy of deputation of IPS to these forces as its continuation is a serious compromise with national security. The IPS officers are neither trained for specialised functions that these forces perform nor their short tenures of few years enables them to get an insight into their functioning.
Truly foolish comment..
CAPF is purely a Armed Police Force of union working in between civil public.
It must be Administrated with Police administrative. It can’t be a Military or different then Police department in any manner.
Without IPS cadre you can’t imagine any Police Department.
This is not Seria or Pak to prevail General Shashan of forces. It is a perfect India but with few greedy people looking for Non functional benefits and to destroy Policing Policies of nation against Internal(civilians) Security of Nation till we had.
Non IPS officers misleading Political Leaders and Courts etc and leading to “Apne pair par kud kulhadi maarna”
Govt. can’t be foolish ever..
Govt. Never buy “gadhey” on the price of “ghodey”.
If Non IPS price is higher then IPS then no way to continue with Non IPS anymore.
Also Unionism of NonIPS is in observation. “Shikaar kud bha kud fastha Chala ja Raha hai Bhai..”
You are requested to kindly be logical, technical and reasonable about Central Police Department..
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IPS banney ka shouk ho tho kabiliyath ke bal par bano.. Yun Political or Courts ko mislead karkey math bano..
Ground level performance of Non-IPS officers are truly worst causing too much loses no one give you”Non functional” benefits..
No DGP will undertake all such orders against “Administration Policy” of Nation.
Courts or Politics can’t interface Administration and Constitution of nation.
So stop dreaming ??
Anymore.. ha.. ha.. ha..
‘s high time that the government reviews its policy of deputation of IPS to these forces as its continuation is a serious compromise with national security. The IPS officers are neither trained for specialised functions that these forces perform nor their short tenures of few years enables them to get an insight into their functioning.
Do you mean that the All India Services, Civils officers assigned for Indian Police Services are not meant for Central Police Organizations..
Truly funny comment.
All who commented here are from the two teams of which each party speak as if for the benefit of the society, which in fact is only for their own benefits in the hirarchy. No public is interested in your blame games and all.
I donot agree Mr G R Pillai, Majority of Indian, who love the country and always want to contribute in the building the nation have always shown their interest in Forces. Very few Public, i repeat ur word “Public” are interested in their small world, who dont have guts to raise a voice against the smallest crime happening in their small society. no more words and energy is required here…
The health of force will be better if it is headed by officer of same forces. IPS doesn’t have any experience of CAPF and come to enjoy pay,perks. We are ready for IPS to continue in CAPF on deputation provided equal number of CAPF Officers will join IPS cadre in state. This way both benefits. The secret agenda of IPS to deny benefits to CAPF and deny same is unacceptable. We CAPF officers are well trained to lead our force compared to IPS.
Jab poochney Wala hi na ho tho health kaisey banega Bhai..
Truly silly comment hai aapka..
who is preventing you from taking the IPS exam and qualifying.
CAPS officers cannot be allowed to reach the top of the forces since they do not have the perspective and knowledge of the IPS officers. It will be like promoting central govt clerks or secretariat service to become secretaries of govt.
Without proper knowledge of law enforcement , the CAPS officers need the guidance of IPS.
This is the need of the hour . These ias babus shiuld be taught clearly that they belong to desk and chair jobs not any profession with arms. They are putting up themselves just to usurp the adm powers of the cadre officers . Those who actually toil hard throughout their service are marginalised due to this stupid system. They should understand by themselves and leave the way. All armed forces who take official training in arms and are putting their life to danger should be treated a class apart. Their induction administration and promotion should be entirely different and segregated from theirs. If this problem of picking and making unprofessional and untrained persons don’t stop here . Such more problems may appear in future.
IPS and nonIPS matter relevant to Central Police Organizations mein IAS ko Kahan fassa rahey ho Bhai..
Noughty comment..
Look achievement history of IPS cadre officers..
Veerappan jaise najaaney kithne hazaaro bloody criminals, offenders, terrorists, naxals ko Interpol agencies, RAW, CBI, SOGs, Greyhounds, Octopus, STFs operating by IPS cadres with solo troops of states tikhaane lagathe Hain.. ussey jaano.. pahachano.. fir baath karo.. Bhai..
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Without joint operations CRPF ke non IPS officers simple se Gali ke kutthey ko bhi nahi kaabu paa sakthey.. that’s the fact.. analys byself.. my aim is strictly to inform fact not demoraliz or discourage greedy non IPS. They have their own perimeter.. as going on they are lucky to being promoted up to ADG in CRPF..
In state Forces even the civil Constables or Armed consbals r more able den non IPS Officers.
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IPS Officers are upper shield of CAPF
and Jawans are All round shields of CAPF..
NON IPS are just “Laad Dhulaarey” getting all safeties and huge monetary benefits par with all India “Civils services Cadre” highly qualified people’s benefits due to above mentioned shields..
“Laalach ka bhi koi Seema hona chahiye”
Aaj IPS ka dharja maang rahe ho..
Kal President ka dharja maang kar “Parvez Mussaraf”/General Shashan karoge Kya..
Ground level ka kaam thumse hotha nahi.. 75 ke thadhhath mein jawano ko hazaaro baar marwa chukey ho..
AB Kya poorey desh ko marwaoge Kya..
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AB Kya units and coys ke troops ko haath pakadkar banduk chalana ka jimma bhi IPS ka hai Kya..
Nikkammo CCS(Conduct) ke thahath criticizing Govt. Administrative policy ke thahath such propoganda and non effective performance ke base par inn moork non-ips officers ko heinous offence ke liye jail me daal kar.. pichvada kootna chahiye.. shukar maano sab chal Raha hai.. Moorkon.. sudhar jao plz.. mein app logon ke pair padtha hun.. Bhai .. laalach math karo.. selfless services karo.. nisvaarth Seva with 1 rupees salery.. even 1 rupees are also too much for ur greedy services.. Jai Hind..
Comment and Message to all up
To
Shri. Amit Shah
Hon’ble Home Minister
MHA, Union of India
&
All concerned up to
PMO, MHA, NHRC, CIC
HODs of CAPF Organizations
At location.
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Through :- Proper Channel
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Subject :- Constabulary Posts of Central Police Organization are discriminated with “quasi judicial system” of incompetent and greedy (for non functional benefits and OGAS type)Non-IPS Police authorities..
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Hon’ble Sir,
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I Namely K. Prasanna Kumar suffering victimization and unfair Termination from CRPF want to state about above subject matter with my case sample in legally analyzed manner.
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CAPF are Central Police Organizations but we the Constabulary level employees are not provided with IPS officers in Units, Ranges, Sectors and Zones. Only DGP and below then 1 % officers are IPS remaining officers holding quasi judicial powers are as hereby in Attachment proven Reckless, Irresponsible, Neglegent, Dishonest officers with lack of Legal knowledge, Lack of Integrity, Lack of Intelligence and dishonest Non IPS officers etc due to which we the Constabulary lower level public servants are facing huge illegalities and irregularities. Subsequently loss of trust/hopes on system, losses of lives and unfair Terminations of carrier are at the peak level in CAPF especially in Central Reserve Police Force. Even the state POLICE departments are inbuilt with IPS Officers as “quasi judicial” authorities but we the Constabulary and lower rank Police personnel are not provided with All India Service’s IPS cadre officers for Units, Range, Sectors, Zone’s etc. just for your level dealings you are appointed DGPs of IPS cadre intelligent Officers. Hence we the more then 10 lacs people working on ground are been discriminated even if campared with state’s Police counter parts.
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Hence, before to be this litigations filed at Supreme Court, I request kindly go through entire lines of attachment files and resolve such discrimination causing to lower level public servants of Central Police Organizations. Thanking you. ..
Reply with resolutions may highly appreciated..
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Your’s ever
Om Sipahi(K. Prasanna Kumar)
The IAS,IPS,IFS and so on are the real culprits to block the basic needs of forces in terms pay, promotion and cadre. The much has been commented above. They have their chairs close to politicians and as such they take undue advantages. There is not a single retired officer/OR in the MOD who can rightly represent the forces. Inexperienced senior officers placed on deputation for the sake of promotions will bear no fruits than to degrade the morale of force. This British era should end. As announced by PM for CDS, this has been lingering since long and so called bureaucrats have been placing hurdles for their interest. By approaching to politicians to apprise them of the real facts is no crime. After all the final decision rests with them. It’s time that we rise above the personal interests for a New India.
Wow.. IAS IPS IFS se ithna nafrath..
Keep it up.. but it’s looks like jealous comment against truth we all know..
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Non IPS ke palley padoge thab aapko IPS ka value patha chalega..
Though their concerns are genuine , it is wrong on their part to meet political leaders to voice the concerns. This diminishes non-political nature of the armed forces
There is hardly anything which IPS officers can teach CAPF officers as their training is altogether different than the later.Their mandate ethos,work culture,conventions & heritage all are so different to the functioning of CAPFs.
IPS officers are recruited to enforce law of the land and maintain tranquillity in the states so that all sections of the society carry out their economic activities without any fear or pressure.
Unfortunately this task is also very rarely accomplished by them. Hence they make requisition for central forces.
If at all they want to come to the central forces they should have separate cadre of ips who are keen to serve in the CAPFs. They should begin their career in the rank of ACP and climb the ladder after passing through the mill. Present arrangements of paradropping at the rank of DIG and above keep them away from the grass roots. They fail to associate themselves with the forces culture and seldom in a position to inspire rank and file which they command. This cannot be considered a healthy arrangement for any organisation.
IPS deputationist continue to be member of ips Association where as CAPF officers cantt have any such Association.
Earlier IPS leadership was also very cautious to the sensitivity of force officers. Not more than three to four years junior in service were inducted but in the recent past this good practice has been done away with and officers far junior in service to the extent of seventeen to twenty years have been inducted in forces. These officers obviously lack in knowledge, experience and maturity but rank ego fully inflated causes mismatch.
All the states are facing acute shortage of IPS officers. These officers are considered to be experts in law and order matters. Their services can be gainfully utilised by the states. But unfortunately they are shirking away from their responsibility and always at the lookout to grab first available opportunity of deputation . Some enlightened IPS officers are available who understand requirements of the forces and are ready to transfer baton to the cadre officers acknowledging spirit of the judgement recently announced by the apex court but their numbers are very few.
Hence intervention of the HM is necessary in the larger interests of the nation as well as the forces who are continuously striving hard to maintain and strengthen National security.
These CAPF officers earlier asked for OGAS & NFU despite having not fulfilled the laid down criteria.Once they got it, now they try to oust the IPS officers from CAPF on the pretext of amending RR at par with other OGAS which is completely unethical and incorrect.If they really aggrieved,hey should have challenged their own RR and deputation policy of MHA and get it quashed.
Most of the IAS and IPS officers and even the IFS & IRD, etc. are criminals in some way or the other. Because of these so called Indian Bureaucrats, India is always facing a lot of issues such as corruption, hatred, etc.
For too long these parasites from the IAS have been exploiting the CAPF for postings at the senior level, all the top posts in an organisation Like the CRPF are creamed off by the IPS for their boys, these officers sent on deputation contribute nil to the CRPF rather, they have a negative effect as IPS officers are inexperienced in counter insurgency duties etc. The have been blocking the career advance of the CAPF Officer for years creating a grave injustice to the determinant if CAPF.
I agree that there should be deputations, but instead of at a senior level it should take place at a junior level, at Dy SP rank and SP rank. These young IPS officers must be made to go into the jungle and endure harsh conditions and learn the trade Of the CRPF.
There should be a one to one exchange – one IPS on deputation and one CAPF Officer the other way in deputation to the IPS.
The CAPF officers have had enough of this sh#&it, I am surprised nothing was done about it years ago and intervention of the Supreme Court had to happen before justice was done.
If the CRPF had its own officers promoted to its highest levels including DG it would have been a far better organisation today.
IPS join CAPF only to exploit resource and little value in any sense.