How the Pakistani state has managed to clamp down on eyewitness accounts, online videos of the crash and initial ISPR flip flops — to obscure the fact that a PAF F-16 jet was shot down by an Indian Air Force MiG-21 Bison on 27 February 2019. Interestingly, after over a month post the aerial clash the narrative is being twisted significantly — with a distinguished foreign media house jumping in the fray and claiming that no F-16 was shot down by the IAF that day. Nothing could give more succour to the dirty tricks department at ISPR, led by the infamous Major General Asif Ghafoor of the Pakistan Army, who has been at the forefront of Pakistan’s hybrid war campaign to deny any manner of worthwhile information scrutiny on the matter since the day the PAF lost one of its most advanced platform to a bold and gritty IAF counterattack. While the evidence is right in front of us to sift through its worth; the first indication of a massive coverup by the Pakistani state on this intriguing subject was provided by none other than Major General Ghafoor himself — who it seems, was overwhelmed by the ‘truth of it’ all in those initial few hours post the aerial clash.
Tragically for the Pakistani nation, there is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact and somewhere in between this blatant game of lies and deception — is a F-16 tail number and a dedicated PAF pilot — both of whom having served Pakistan to the best of their ability; now have had their records unceremoniously wiped out from the face of the earth to serve a wider subterfuge of upholding the morale and image of the Pāk Fizāʾiyah, the pantheon of past glory and Pakistan’s best shot at hitting back at India in these times of turmoil.
IAF’s shoots down a PAF F-16
Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman, an Indian Air Force MiG-21 Bison pilot made history around 10 AM on 27 February 2019, when he targeted a formation of Pakistan Air Force F-16s who were engaging IAF Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters with their AIM-120 AMRAAM beyond visual range missiles; closing in undetected and shooting down one of them with a Vympel R-73 heat seeking air to air missile over the Lam valley in Nowshera sub sector of south western Jammu and Kashmir. Abhinandan became the first MiG-21 pilot in the world to shoot down a F-16 jet.
Unfortunately Abhinandan’s MiG-21 was also hit by an AMRAAM missile fired by another F-16 as he was heading back towards India, having crossed the LOC in pursuit of the F-16 only tens of seconds earlier. He ejected from the stricken aircraft and parachuted to safety, landing 4 km away from the LOC near Horan Kotla village in POK. He was brutally attacked by civilians, before being dramatically handed over to the Pakistan Army.
His ordeal made him a focal point of the developing crisis, when in gross violation of the Geneva convention, the footage of his battered face was intentionally released on Pakistani television and social media by Pakistan Army affiliates minutes later.
What was clear was that the Pakistan Armed Forces had activated the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) to get the narrative under control.
ISPR — Goebblism personified
The Inter-Services Public Relations, is the media wing of the Pakistan Armed Forces which broadcasts and coordinates military news and information to the country’s civilian media and the civic society. Under this innocuous looking mandate hides the the real mandate of the ISPR — where the Pakistan Army uses the ISPR as the misinformation medium to escalate and de- escalate a rapidly building information threat to suit its tactical and strategic aim. ISPR is at the tip of Pakistan’s hybrid war effort, embedded well with the complexities of military manoeuvres, political power play and deft disinformation, with sempiternal loyalty only to the Pakistan Army — and the nation it serves be damned!
While the ISPR is known for its notoriety in manipulating the ‘everything of anything’, history has proved on umpteen occasions that even for the smoothest of them operators — there is many a proverbial slip between the cup and the lip.
The ISPR narrative and the Flip Flops
Two interesting events took place post Abhinandan’s ejection on 27 February.
First the Indian Air Force reported through the ANI’s Twitter handle that they had shot down a F-16 over Laam valley. It also acknowledged the loss of one of its MiG-21.
Secondly, Major General Asif Ghafoor — the Director-General of Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) and chief spokesperson of Pakistan Armed Forces tweeted on the ISPR handle that two Indian jets had been shot down by the PAF in POK, with one pilot arrested by the Pak army and two still in the area. Even as facts were being ascertained and the before IAF could give any info, Pakistani handles on social media started talking about the shooting down of two IAF jets and the arrest of the Indian pilots.
While addressing a press conference at noon, a good hour after his first significant tweet, Maj Gen Ghafoor said that — another pilot has been arrested. “Our ground forces arrested two pilots; one of them was injured and has been shifted to CMH (Combined Military Hospital) and, God-willing, he will be taken care of,” said the army official and reiterated that “The other one is with us.” Maj Gen Ghafoor also assured all that no F-16 of the PAF had been shot down, since the F-16s were ‘not’ used in combat in that sector at all. Interestingly, the Pak PM Imran Khan also confirmed that Pakistan had two Indian pilots in custody.
Post that press conference, the ISPR chief informed all that the pilot in their custody in the military hospital had died.
At 6:19 PM in the evening, the last tweet on the subject from Maj Gen Ghafoor clarified that the Pak Army had just ‘one’ IAF pilot in its custody. He was Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman.
In the time between his first and last tweet, the social media, particularly on Twitter, spiked up with a virtual war between the Indian and Pakistani sympathisers posting a barrage of messages, videos and photos to bolster their claims. This was nudged by the ISPR’s dedicated campaign to showcase the travails of Abhinandan Varthaman as their POW, increasing in intensity as the day progressed — in a clear effort to shift the focus of attention away from the shooting down of the PAF F-16 and the fate of the other downed pilot.
But Why?
1# Because the loss of a top of the line F-16 aircraft would be counter productive to the morale and standing of the Pakistan Air Force, especially at the hands of an Indian MiG-21 Bison — considered by most experts to be a generation older than the F-16. It was already reeling under ignominy from the day before’s surgical strike by IAF Mirage 2000s on the Balakot JeM camp. Hence the PAF’s psyche would go to any length, including lying — to keep this information a closely guarded secret.
2# Because in an evil twist of fate — Pakistani civilians in the Sabzkot area of POK had assaulted an injured PAF pilot, who had ejected out of his F-16 — mistaking him for an Indian pilot. The pilot subsequently died at the CMH, probably due to the wounds received in this manhandling or post ejection. The ISPR lied at the end of the day that it had only one pilot to keep this tragedy under wrap.
3# Because Pakistan’s duplicity on the subject of covering up and not accepting its losses is well known. More than 1000 killed in actions (KIA) of the Pak Army were never officially acknowledged by Pakistan after the Kargil war with India in 1999. Since its partition from India, Pakistan continues to experience a security deficit vis-à-vis India, hence would go all out to hide losses suffered to maintain the so called martial dominance over the Indian military.
4# Because the PAF did not want to reveal to the world that an American made F-16 had been used as part of an offensive operation against India on 27 February, voilating end use agreement on many counts, including use of the AIM-120 C-5 AMRAAM air to air missile — which ostensibly had been given to Pakistan to be used against its war on terror. So Maj Gen Ghafoor resorted to lies, that no F-16s were used that day.
5# Because Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor’s trigger happy tweets and the presser in the first six hours post the aerial clash clearly points us towards the ‘truth’ in the information received by him — Who would believe that in today’s digital age with the Pak Army’s superbly networked communications, the head of ISPR would be battling the fog of war while collating reports about IAF POWs from various Pak formations in the Bhimber region of POK — one reported by a Mujahid Battalion near Horan Kotla and the second by a Northern Light Infantry (NLI) Battalion near Sabzkot.
The DG ISPR was lying all through the day — unfortunately himself becoming a victim of a half backed truth.
By the time the shenanigans at the ISPR realised their goof up and said they had only one IAF pilot in their custody, the cat was out of the bag — giving the first tangible lead to the Indian Air Force on the possible sequence of events post downing of the F-16 and the MiG-21.
Analysing the evidence available on the F-16 shooting
Lets take a look at the OSINT info and the evidence that the Indian Air Force has officially revealed on the shooting down of the PAF F-16.
That F-16s engaged with the IAF near Poonch — Naoshera sub sector on 27 February has been proven beyond doubt by the electronic signatures, as well as various video and visual sightings from both sides of the Line ofd Control.
Electromagnetic Evidence on the Air Situation
The IAF’s Phalcon AWACS, which while not on station and not controlling the IAF vs PAF air situation — had adequate radar pick up on the aerial engagement unfolding via its powerful airborne AESA radar. The Phalcon was able to map the large force engagement (LFE) from 10,000 to 40,000 feet, distinguishing and identifying the various PAF fighters taking part through their electromagnetic emissions (radars, navigational equipment and othet active sensors) — duly picked up, processed and analysed by the its powerful Electronic Intelligence (Elint) systems. It identified F-16, JF-17 and Mirage IIIs as part of the PAF package, spread out from north to south J&K on three main axes near the Line of Control in the POK.
The fused radar and Elint signatures accurately depicts the presence in time and space of the F-16’s APG-68 V9 radar signature over Lam valley, along with 4 different blips between 10–15,000 feet.
The data proves beyond doubt — that F-16s were operating against India that day — exposing the lies and contradictions of the DG ISPR, Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor — exposed further by the remains of the AMRAAM missile found in Naoshera sector by the Indian military. AMRAAM missiles can only be fired by F-16s in the PAF inventory.
The IAF’s Integrated Air Command & Control System (IACCS) had initially missed tracking the ingress of these 4 F-16s towards the LOC since they maintained below the radar horizon of the IAF’s ground based radars, picking them only once they approached north of Poonch; where they lay in wait to ambush IAF Su-30MKIs who were being ‘pushed’ towards them by another formation of 4 F-16s north west of Poonch at 40,000 feet. This formation had fired 4–5 AMRAAM missiles at IAF Su-30 MKIs as they approached south of Rajouri.
Having spotted the lower formation of F-16s and seeing that the Su-30MKIs were effectively being checked by the higher formation of F-16s — the IACCS vectored two MiG-21 Bisons to prevent these 4 F-16s from breaking through towards Srinagar — Awantipore. Abhinandan was the lead in this 2 aircraft MiG-21 pair. The approach of the 2 MiG-21s was missed by the F-16s who were busy scanning for the Su-30MKIs, but a Saab 2000 ERIEYE Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) operating in depth near Islamabad, spotted the MiG-21s over Naoshera, warning the F-16s. The IAF’s gound controller saw the defensive maneuvering of the F-16s, warning the MiGs in turn. While his No 2, who was lagging behind, turned ‘cold’ or away from the F-16s which were going ‘hot’ or facing the MiGs — –Abhinandan chose to ignore this threat and continued towards the F-16s.
Both the IACCS & The Phalcon AWACS registered the radar signature of one MiG-21 piloted by Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman cross the Line of Control and engage a F-16 with a R-73 missile. His call on R/T of a missile launch was monitored by the AWACS. Abhinandan was 8–10 km away from the F-16, which was turning towards him — aiming for a frontal aspect launch with high closing speed between the missile and the incoming F-16. The R-73 is a heat seeking air to air missile with a sensitive, dual band cryogenic cooled seeker with a substantial off-boresight capability. The seeker can see targets up to 40° off the missile’s centreline. Minimum engagement range is about 300 meters, with maximum aerodynamic range of nearly 30 km at altitude.
Abhinandan fired his R-73 well within the range and tracking capabilities of the R-73 missile, with a high closing speed of more than 3500 kmph between the missile and the F-16, which was at 15,000 feet. At those ranges, the missile would have closed into the target in less than 20 seconds, its proximity fuse activating the 7.4 kg warhead to explode and engulf the F-16 in frontal quarters with flame and high velocity shrapnel — in all probability grievously injuring the pilot. The ‘splashed’ F-16 fell towards the earth post that, with the pilot ejecting out of the stricken aircraft as reported by eyewitnesses.
The F-16 ‘kill’ was noticed by the Phalcon’s radar — with the said blip vanishing from the radar scope in the radar picture processed — 8 seconds after the previous one, which had shown the blip in place.
This is the first hard evidence on the F-16 kill based on a concrete electronic signature recordings.
The same is corroborated by a Thales GS-100 Low Level Targeting Radar (LLTR) deployed in that area and integrated into the IACCS, The GS-100 is an AESA radar with low-altitude search capability that can track targets up to 180 km range with high accuracy. The post event milking out of radar data from the GS-100 clearly has shown the MiG-21 closing into the F-16s, which were higher between 15–25,00 feet.
The overlapping time and place of the missile launch and the subsequent ‘splash’ with the blip vanishing is registered very accurately, matching with the Phalcon data. This is the second hard evidence on the F-16 kill.
The same LLTR had clearly registered a PAF F-16 maneuvering towards Abhinandan’s MiG-21, as he turned northwards post his missile launch. Guided by the Saab ERIEYE, it was a classic Type III converting into a Type IV interception by the F-16 — which fired and an AMRAAM to shoot down the IAF MiG-21. The LLTR noticed the MiG-21 blip vanishing after nearly a minute post the F-16 kill, matching with the account from Abhinandan’s debrief post his repatriation back to India.
Visual Sighting and Plotting by Indian Army
The air battle was visible in great details, on both sides of the Line of control, thanks to the contrails formed at the altitudes where the jets were operating on most occasions.
As the F-16 fell to the ground after being hit by the MiG-21, its downward trajectory with parachutes in proximity, was recorded by at least 2 different geographically apart Indian Army posts, which accurately estimated that the wreckage would have fallen 7–8 km in POK close to Sabzkot in Bhimber.
About 40–50 seconds later, the same army posts noticed and tracked Abhinandan’s MiG-21 going down and his ejection in general area Tandar 6–7 km in POK, which through OSINT is close to the village of Horan Kotla where the wreckage was seen vividly on social media.
The sightings and the time of the aircraft (and parachutes), match up with the electronic signatures from both the AWACS and the LLTR.
This is irrefutable proof of the F-16 being shot down by the MiG-21.
Post this, radio transmission picked up by the Indian military around 1145H shows Pakistan soldiers from Northern Light Infantry talking about two ‘parinda‘ (aircraft) and two ‘parinde wale‘ (pilots), having bagged one in their custody.
While the first parachute was seen in General Area Sabzkot, the second parachute was spotted in General Area Tandar. The distance between the two locations of the F-16 and MiG-21 wreckage is about 6–7 kms.
In a damning intercept at 1242H, a soldier of 7 Northern Light Infantry battalion, Tandar area, blatantly talks about soldiers from 658 Mujahid battalion having picked up a second pilot — which was Abhinandan as seen with the Mujahid soldiers in the various social media grabs. The NLI soldiers already had one pilot in custody at the time. At 1520 hours, another intercept says that while one pilot is in custody, another has been sent to the military hospital.
This clearly shows that a second pilot was also in the Pak Army custody as also being mentioned in the parralel narrative by the ISPR chief.
So if one was Abhinandan with the Mujahids, who was the second pilot with the NLI battalion — who can be none other than the F-16 pilot!
Besides the initial video of locals who said two pilots were caught, the sighting by the Indian army and videos showing two parachutes coming down — all indicate that a Pakistan jet was shot down.
A case of two wreckages and three parachutes: OSINT data analysis
After sifting through a large volume of social media videos, images and posts — some very interesting OSINT data emerges. With over 10 different videos of the aerial engagement and the subsequent aircraft crashing into the ground accessed, there are at least two videos which show two different aircraft falling towards the ground. These can be distinguished by their rapidly falling trajectories towards the ground and the vapour trails created in the skies.
Clearly two different aircraft have crashed in the Bhimber region, POK on the 27th of February.
A detailed analysis of Abhinandan’s crash site by geospatial experts and eyewitness accounts places it near the village of Horan Kotla in Tandar area. Working backwards from the location of the MiG-21 wreckage, one can plot the approximate area where the F-16 wreckage might have fallen.
After the tirade of videos on the MiG-21 wreckage surfacing on the social media, there was an initial rush to brand the Mig-21’s R-25 engine, as seen in the wreckage — as the F-16’s General Electric Engine. However, it petered down when experts stepped in to debunk these theories.
What is however noteworthy — is the hurry that the Pak Army showed in its attempt to transport and shift pieces of the MiG-21 wreckage from the crash site. This initiative took place around 1500H that and a Twitter video on same reveals a very vital clue.
While loading up the mangled parts at one of the location, Nothern Light Infantry (NLI) soldiers apprear with — what has been identified as a smooth finish panel. The IAF has confirmed that this panel is ‘not’ part of the MiG-21.
Referring back to the radio intercepts and the photos on social media, the presence of the NLI troops in loading this panel, as compared to the Mujahid troops at the MiG-21 crash site, confirms that, first it was a different location from the Abhinandan’s crash site; and second, the chances of this smooth finish panel being a part of the F-16 are very high.
Another photo was accessed the very same day through social media in the Bhimber region of POK, with the picture clearly showing what appears to be a part of a panel of a F-16 jet.
The grey/ light gray camouflage panel can only be a part of a PAF F-16 aircraft
These two photographs, which somehow escaped the Pak Army’s information clampdown on the F-16 wreckage site — provide ample proof that the PAF F-16 had disintegrated after the R-73 hit and its wreckage was strewn and scattered around the area in the same manner as that of the MiG-21.
Now lets examine the various versions of the videos floating around on the social media of eyewitnesses around the crash sites. Some of these witnesses interviewed — claim to have seen at least three different parachutes. This matches to the sightings by the Indian troops, who saw different parachutes from both the crashes, at different locations in the area. The following key aspects emerge from the comments of the various eyewitness. Lets analyse them for their worth-
1# There were more than one parachute in the sky — Cleary seen in the various video grabs, this adequately indicates that more than one pilot ejected.
2# Pak civilians had apprehended Abhinandan, who tried to escape, but was caught and handed over to the Pak Army — This is documented well with a flurry of ISPR and Pak media videos and images on the social media.
3# Ostensibly, one of the witness claimed that they had apprehended an IAF sikh pilot of the IAF — In all probability, the witness has confused Abhinandan, who was wearing a skull cap under his helmet, which resembles a sikh patka at times. His burly moustache with the patka would have given the impression of him being a Sikh to the eyewitnesses on ground.
4# Many witnesses claim to have seen a parachute with colours of the Indian flag — A very significant detail, which emerged in many videos on the social media. On closer analysis, a startling fact emerges — the colour of the C-9 parachute on the PAF F-16’s ACES ejection seat has four colours — white, orange, jungle green and sandy brown — eaily anyone taking a look at the same will assume it to be an Indian parachute due its uncanny resemblence to the Indian flag.
In all probability, just like they tried to lynch Abhinandan when he landed — the POK civilians have clearly mistaken the F-16 parachute to be an Indian and lynched the possibly injured PAF pilot. Due to extreme injuries, the PAF pillot would have been taken to the Pak Army CMH as briefed by the Maj Gen Ghafoor to all, where he would have passed away die to the wounds sustained. Eyewitness accounts from POK civilians also confirm that the second pilot was taken to a Pak army hospital.
A quick run of an image and size interpolation software comparing the reference C-9 image from above and the image taken from a Pakistani video grab of a parachute landing in the area throws up some interesting results — confirming the view that a F-16 parachute did land near the same time that Abhinandan ejected .
Image interpolation of the reference C-9 image with the screengrab image of a parachute landing suspected to be post the F-16 shoot down
So why didn’t the Pakistanis recognise their own pilot before lynching him?
For this we need to go back in air — at the exact moment when Abhinandan fired his R-73 against the PAF F-16. As per Abhinandan’s debrief after his return, the R-73 missile was fired when the PAF aircraft was turning towards the IAF MiG-21, about to roll out towards him in its frontal quarter. This means when the R-73 missile, based on the massive closing speed of over 3500 kmph, would have reached the calculated range for its proximity fuse to explode the warhead — the PAF jet would be still travelling be towards the explosion.
Let’s try to understand how the R-73 warhead would have exploded — The R-73 has a continuous rod warhead weighing 7.4 kg — which is activated by a proximity fuse when it senses an aircraft in close quarters. When detonated, the high explosive imparts momentum to the rods, thrusting them outward in an expanding circle. The pressure wave from the explosive acts evenly on the rods over their length. The rods are sufficiently soft to allow the expansion without breaking the rods or the welded joints, and the detonation velocity is limited to close to 1000 m/s, allowing the rods to bend at these locations instead. At some intermediate point the ring will have a zig-zag (alternating direction) appearance within a cylindrical envelope — Upon ultimate expansion the ring is circular and contained within a plane.
This rapidly expanding ring, when hitting the aircraft, is more effective than an equivalent fragmentation warhead — for the science inclined, the ring’s effectiveness decreasing as 1/R, rather than 1/R2 for fragments.
Portions of the aircraft intercepted by the expanding ring of the continuous rod warhead — will receive a continuous cut through the skin, light structure, underlying cables, hydraulic lines, and other plumbing if present — This may cause a structural failure, or, if not, can be sufficient for defeating the redundancy of aircraft systems. The effect is only pronounced as long as the ring is unbroken, so multiple layers of rods are employed in practical weapons to increase the effective radius.
Now when the R-73’s warhead would have exploded and expanded ‘outwards’ ‘towards’ the front at over 1000 m/s, the closing speed of over 3500 kmph would have ensured that the F-16 itself would be coming towards the explosion at 972 m/s.
So if we assume that the proximity fuse would have initiated the explosion in frontal quarters at around 300m — there would hardly be any time between the effect of the explosion taking shape, expanding the flame and shrapnel effect at high velocity outwards; and the closing in F-16 to absorb the explosion effectively. What that means is that most of the frontal section of the F-16 would have flown in through the expanding shockwave, with damage mostly limited due to shrapnel, rather than the explosive effect.
Hence it is clear that the pilot would have survived the heat and flame effects of the explosion, but would have in all probability been effected by the shrapnel effect of the explosion — grievously injuring his upper body — with the flying helmet preventing fatal injuries, but not able to prevent rampant injuries to the face, neck and chest level.
In contrast, the AMRAAM hit on Abhinandan’s MiG-21 was from right 7 ‘o’ clock position, mostly damaging the rear portion of the MiG-21, as is visible during the post crash analysis of the wreckage.
So when the PAF F-16 pilot would have ejected, he would in all probability have been injured in the upper torso and facial region. He may or may not have been concious due to his injuries. After his landing in Sabzkot — the POK civilians would not have found the classic traces of PAF flight overalls and livery/ patches, which would have in all probability been ripped off due the high velocity shrapnel — crucially may not have displayed any name indicating he was a Pakistani. They would not have recognised him as a PAF pilot and assesing from the Indian coloured parachute — would have have mobbed him like Abhinandan, before being handed over to the NLI Regiment soldiers, injured and battered.
Though circumstantial, this relevant evidence proves that a Pakistani pilot was apprehended and injured by a mob after landing and would later have been taken to a Military hospital, where he may have died due his injuries as claimed by the ISPR.
Who was the PAF pilot shot down by the IAF?
Interestingly, post the aerial melee over South Western J&K on 27 February, the Pakistani Foreign Minister on 6 March spoke in the parliament about — two PAF pilots who had shot down IAF aircraft. These pilots were Squadron Leader Hassan Siddiqui and Wing Commander Nauman Ali Khan.
His statement needs to be analysed objectively for the message it conveys — The FM said when interacting with the other members, “One clarification — Bilawal paid tribute to Hassan Siddiqui as he’s absolutely a national hero, But I would like to clarify that two Indian planes were shot down. The other one was shot down by Wg Cdr Nauman Ali Khan,” he added, asking that the second pilot also be given due credit.”
Why did Bilal Bhutto and other parliamentarians praise the younger Sqn Ldr Hassan Siddiqui? Why was his heroism more significant that Nauman Ali Khan?
Why in the first week of March 2019, did the PAF chiefurgently visit all PAF bases, particularly those housing the F-16 squadrons?
While Wing Commander Nauman Ali Khan was seen being congratulated by the PAF chief, Air Marshal Mujhaid Anwar Khan in a recent PAF propoganda video — why has there been no photo or video released of Sqn Ldr Hassan Siddiqui post the aerial engagement? Why is a fake video being circulated by ISPR affiliates on social media as that of Sqn Ldr Hassan Siddiqui after his return post shooting an IAF aircraft — the person being shown is not Hassan Siddiqui.
It is my suspicion that Squadron Leader Hassan Siddiqui may be the pilot who was shot down by Wing Commander Abhinandan on 27 February. The fact that his heroism is widely recognised by the Pak parliament and ISPR is covering his presence with fake information, strengthens my theory.
Even if I am wrong, the fact of the matter is that a nameless PAF F-16 fighter pilot has sacrificed his life for Pakistan.
Tragically for the Pakistani nation, with the Pak Army adept at hushing up the deaths of hundreds of its soldiers without as much as batting an eyelid — there is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact — and somewhere in between this blatant game of lies and deception by the ISPR — is a F-16 tail number and a dedicated PAF pilot — both of whom having served Pakistan to the best of their ability; now have had their records unceremoniously wiped out from the face of the earth to serve a wider subterfuge of upholding the morale and image of the Pāk Fizāʾiyah, the pantheon of past glory and Pakistan’s best shot at hitting back at India in these times of turmoil.
The show goes on….
Since the initial flip flops on the day of the F-16 shoot down, the ISPR and the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) have invested a good amount of effort on creating alternative evidence around the MiG-21 wreckage, as well as reaching out to its foreign affiliates and sleepers — to influence foreign publications in questioning the IAF claim of a F-16 shot down at an international level — much in line with its effort to embarrass the IAF’s Balakot strike by the recruiting geospatial domain specialists across the word in its deception.
While any independent viewpoint on the subject is a worth a discussion — The IAF will need to watch out for articles based on false claims and twisted data, such as the recent Foreign Policy media piece by Lara Seligman. Ms Seligman claimed in her post that two US government sources has confirmed to her that ‘no’ F-16s had been lost by the PAF. This was based on a head count of all Pakistani F-16s by the USG as part of the end user compiances post 27 February.
The FP piece created a furore in the Indian media circles due the damning information it contained. While the IAF countered this by showing crystal clear proof in the form of the electronic signatures and call intercepts in its possession on the subject — Indian agencies were clearly seeing the hand of ISPR in this unwarranted spin to the Mig-21 vs F-16 saga.
This was proven to be a lie — as the US Government categorically denied any such F-16 count having taken place at all.
And, lesser the said of Ms Seligman’s downward spiralling credibility post this, the better!
However Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor went ballistic on the subject, claiming that the ISPR and PAF’s denials had been vindicated. It was clear that the narrative besides influencing certain quarters of global information cells, was clearly aimed at placating a domestic audience — which had discreetly started to question the reality on the aerial engagement.
And things are not going well for the ISPR at all — with the DG ISPR having been forced to accept that the PAF had used F-16s in the aerial engagement on 27 February — another of his lies busted in earnest!
Bellowing his last hurrah on the subject — Maj Gen Ghafoor unrolled another tweet insinuating that — no missile was fired by the MiG-21 — with all being recovered at the site of the wreckage.
A closer inspection of the photograph has revealed that the extreme right R-73 missile has been fired — it being the remains of the R-73 used to shoot down the PAF F-16.
Bravo! Another lie exposed!!!
A very thoughtful tweet on the above does full justice to the ISPR’s protracted effort to keep up the disinformation campaign against India –
Lies will take the ISPR only as far; as mentioned earlier — the occassional slip between the cup and the lip, can cost a lot!
There is more than ample evidence that Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman piloting a MiG-21 jet — has shot down a PAF F-16.
The onus is on Pakistan to prove that they have not lost any aircraft.
As the well known Aviation historian Jagan Pillariseti states — ‘Pak Once Disproved Indian Kill Claims By Flaunting All Its Mirages, Why Not Now With F-16s?’
Let’s wait for the next move by ISPR on the subject……!!!
The author is an former fighter pilot with extensive experience on the Mirage 2000 and MiG 21 aircraft of the IAF. He has seen combat in the 1999 Indo Pak Kargil conflict. He writes on military subjects and his article on the Air War in Syria, won the best military aviation submission at the 2017 Paris Airshow.
This article was originally published on Medium. Read the original article here.
A rather longish explanation for a single incident.
Fact is India lost a plane shot down over Pakistan and an IAF helicopter was lost to friendly fire on the same day within Indian Occupied Kashmir. Rest is heresy.
But credit to the author who tried to build case to support his version of events. Full marks for effort, zero for accuracy.
There was one pilot that was captured and he flew the Mig21 Bison (Abhinandan) and was handed over several days later to India.
The second pilot that was taken to CMH, died hours later the same day. So now, if PAF had shot down a Sukhoi 30MKI, there would have been not ‘one’ but ‘two’ pilots in their custody as Sukhoi’s have tandem cockpits.
There was only one pilot that was taken to CMH and so therefore the pilot belongs to a fighter plane that was flown by a single pilot. The two fighter jets that was in the dog fight that day was a Mig21 and an F16 evidently as claimed by both sides.
It is now fair to accept that it was therefore not a Sukhoi 30MKI that was shot down.
Well, Pakistan can now say that it was indeed a Sukhoi that was shotdown but the plane and one pilot landed on the Indian side and the second pilot on POK. So if that was the case, assuming that the pilot that died in CMH was the same Indian who flew the Sukhoi and was one among the two pilots that flew the Sukhoi that day and unfortunately landed on the side of POK as claimed by Pakistan, why was the body not returned to India? That should have been the procedure and things would have been much clearer to world.
As for now, we have accounted for the pilot of the Mig but we have not accounted for the pilot that died in CMH.
Please acknowledge and provide the pilot a decent burial with full honour. You should know it’s a shame because that pilot died defending a country. Please own up and take responsibility of the dead at least when they have fought on your side.
If one has to believe this TRUTH revealed by this author, including the electromagnetic signature evidences, the one must believe the claim made by Pakistan as well, that, PAF shot SU30 as well which fell well inside India. And India is hiding this. In that case, scores are 3-1 (mig, suk30 and a helo). Professionalism of IAF is clear that it shot its own bird during all this. If you kick the ball inside your own goal, point goes to the opposite team. Thus making it 3-1 and in this SU30 is far more superior to the F16s. ? ? ? ? ?
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Im still ROFLing. I think this author has really been watching and producing too many Bollywood and Hollywood movies.
BTW the author claims that out of the 4 missiles (which ISPR displayed in a tweet), the one on the far right is already fired to destroy the F-16. Seriously, you must be up for an Oscar. So the missile was fired, but somehow the seeker-head remains intact… stupid idiot.
Why is ISPR scaring you so much?
The writer has proved the obvious shoot down of an f`16 by using ultra modern , sophisticated and expansive technologies of phantasy and assumptions.
thanks to the modern day dreaming approach introduced by Indians we know even the meticulous details about the incident like:
– the rear part of doomed jet was hit by missile warhead shock wave
– that thee unfortunate pilot was injured in the upper torso and facial region at the time of ejection
Using the same methodology soon they will easily prove that Pearl Harbor Raids were conducted by IAF and the event will be celebrated in whole of India with PRIDE. Didn’t know the cow urine had intoxicating effect as well.
India’s dad United States already said that none of the F16 are missing and all the missile of MIG 21 are held by Pakistan maybe Pakistan shove all those missile up India’s a*s than Indians might believe Pakistan didn’t lost any fighter jet. Indian terrorist want the world to believe the same shameless and lying Indian government who disowned their pilot and said none of the Indian airforce pilot are missing and only admitted after his pictures went viral being under Pakistan army’s custody and Indian terrorist should just admit the fact that Pakistan airforce shot down two Indian jet(MIG 21 and SU 30) and this absurd claim of shooting down F16 is to safe the face of Indian military who’ve been humiliated and defeated by Pakistan
haha pakistan’s grand father usa refused they never counted f16 it was a fake news by ispr
Indian terrorist state’s dad already said that none of the F16 are missing and all the missile of MIG 21 are held by Pakistan maybe Pakistan shove all those missile up India’s a*s than Indians might believe Pakistan didn’t lost any fighter jet. Indian terrorist want the world to believe the same shameless and lying Indian government who disowned their pilot and said none of the Indian airforce pilot are missing and only admitted after his pictures went viral being under Pakistan army’s custody and Indian terrorist should just admit the fact that Pakistan airforce shot down two Indian jet(MIG 21 and SU 30) and this absurd claim of shooting down F16 is to safe the face of Indian military who’ve been humiliated and defeated by Pakistan
I’m a former F-16 aerodynamicist/design engineer for General Dynamics Fort Worth Division. I worked on the F-16 project going back to the YF-16 prototype through the AFT-16 technology demonstrator..
No aviation professional would be surprised if a PAF fighter-bomber was lost during the recent incursion. Losses are expected during offensive actions over hostile territory, especially since PAF F-16s lack the support aircraft the US and Israel would field. The R-73 is a dangerous missile capable of bringing down any aircraft.
What is surprising, and has rocked IAF to the core, is how poorly its weaponry performed overall. PAF used its superior AMRAAMs to take control of the battle in its critical early seconds. That allowed ground attack group to complete its mission unmolested. The Sukhoi’s R-77s appear to have been of little use. India has recognized this in a surprisingly public manner, and is taking urgent measures to close this missile gap.
That said, the article lacks any primary references needed to authenticate its many claims. At one point it asserts that IAF provided “crystal clear evidence”, but the author fails to point us to that evidence. This leaves the reader is left with no path to verify the claimse. As such, it is just more hearsay, though written with a level of apparent detail that may lend it more authority than its actual content deserves.
One more thing… Orange is a common parachute color. The JF-17’s Martin-Baker parachute has orange panels. Plus, with no way to check the date the photo was taken, it provides no support for the author’s thesis.
Yes there is “crystal clear evidence” of Radar signature , Unless You want Something else You should mention it .Video Available on Yotube – Pak Army first declared Capture of “Two Pilots” & one admitted in hospital … in hurry because They did not realise Second one is from their Own F-16 .. due to communication jamming & Panic of time .
Mig-21 chased F-16 in enemy territory and Shot it down in Pak territory in that chase Mig-21 got hit by Another F-16 , Of-course so most Physical evidence will exists in Pak … not accessible to India .
Pakistan has history of denying Damages ,Its same state which hid Osama Laden for decade , rejected dead bodies of its own soldiers in Kargil war with India. Pakistani text book teaches that It has Won all Wars with India 🙂 . Infarct Richard Clarke Who had lot of experience with Pakistanis & Army …said “Pakistanis are Pathological Liars” , Army has to maintain Image in Pakistan . Its military controlled state .
Contrary – Attacker Side always have advantage of surprise , But PAF failed miserably lost Advance F-16 to Mig-21 . could not Achieve Any object . While Day before India Planes Striked Deep Inside Pakistan without getting detected by PAF . Truth if India had done similar Operation Like Pak as in 24 Fighter Planes …. It would have been apocalyptic day for PAF.
Missiles – India does not have any gap …. It was 24 PAF Planes against 8 Indian fighters . PAF fired multiple AMRAAMs out of Range which could not hit Su-30 … while Indian Pilot hv training of shooting missiles only if its in “effective” range . Firing missiles out of range is useless . But India realised it needs ultra long range missiles such situations .
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Rip sidiqui, the unsung martyr of paf, will always remain hidden bcoz of pak propaganda, and wonder anyone in his family will ever joined the armed forces and for the Foreign Policy journal however you tried to hide the facts i am quite sure your country chance in mmrca2 is over and better asked trump admin. to try to sell f21 to pak instead
great effort its a very good bedtime story i am convinced that sometimes even the smarter ones can be nothing but a monkey that avoids facts and try to come up with lame explanation and you should dig into the matter of the second IAF plane shot down.
Witing essays won’t prove anything. If we leave Pakistani and Indian national media aside and see what rest of the world is saying; it is loud and clear that best we can say is that IAF has not given irrefutable evidence of downing F16 and similarly other circumstantial evidence also deny Indian claims.
It is sheer disapointment to listen such a senior IAF officer with such a weak, unaunthetic and childish evidences with no concreet proofs. His only cry is that PAF used F16s. U ppl need to understand fol:-
1 F16 is our aircraft and no one can stop us from using it.
2 AMRAAM is our missile which is for aireal tgts. U need u accept it that terrorists dont have airforce.
3 Our every bullet, every aircraft and every missile is for u and only u. We will use anything ay our disposal to humble u and teach u a befitting lesson.
4 Dont bring tsunami in a cup. Ur lies wont help u. Accept it that PAF is as professional as any other main line airforce. Its not more than a joke that mig 21 can hit a high tech aircraft like F16. Our pilots are well trained and much professional and any professional pilot knows this thing. U may clearify it from IAF officers.
5 Ask ur airforce why they used mig 21 against more sophisticated Pakistani aircrafts… isnt it a basic logical question?
6 Do u think in a present era of information where every individual is carrying android phone, we can hide 300 dead bodies? If yes… give us a credit for having such a competent institutions and agencies… how can u even think like this that so far no video of mass killings leaked.
7 As per ur govt, they have isolated Pakistan internationally. But european satellites are showing no damage to buildings in Balakot. We have shown u the places where the bombs landed. U think we dug it in the foothills?
8 US saying we have counted F16s and no aircraft has been lost but u are not ready to accept their statements. Hats off to ur understanding of basic things. Btw who got isolated internationally?
9 Proofs looks like wng comd Abhi talking like a parrot cursing his country’s media.
10 Proof looks like debris of aircraft with pak army officer standing next to it with boots on indian flaged tail of aircraft.
11 Proof looks like showing those destroyed pine trees and the broken ground in balakot where ur bombs landed with no house near it. Not like a senior IAF officer and talk like kids.
12 Very soon u will come to know about “the other pilot” also. Let us get over with some back door diplimacy. Just wait and see.
IAF got ambushed. Simple as that. Despite India’s posse of Sukhoi’s, Mirages in the background and Mig’s ahead, PAF formation’s radio jamming led abhi going astray into Pak side (abhi’s wingman chickened out?)
MI-17 is a bigger mystery. Was it taken down for deflection from the kill of Su30 MKI?
IAF has not managed to convince anybody with their Awac drawings- issued 38 days later after getting trumped in broad daylight and that too after the magazine claimed the count of F16’s tallying up. Was IAF content in keeping quiet all these days if they really (really) got a kill shot of an F-16?
PAF locking onto 6 targets in India side, taking down 2 jets and 3 pilots, India claiming they lost 6 IAF personnel in a MI-6 chopper as fratricide (really India?), India missing Balakot targets, Western command reading the situation terribly wrong and getting trumped in broad day light and last but not the least, all of PAFs claim’s adding up that too with evidence provided shows IAF estimated the PAF strategy of ambush + stun and conquer.
And all of this for one megalomaniacs victory. What a tragedy of India and Indians.
It is quite established by credible media and talk show reports that other pilot held by Pakistani authorities is an Israeli pilot who was flying SU 30 aircraft of IAF and was shot down by Wing Comdr. Nauman of PAF. Due to obvious reasons Pakistani and Indian authorities are not making any claims about it. Instead of accepting downing of its other fighter aircraft Indian government and IAF have fabricated a story of lies claiming downing of F 16 of PAF. Lies will always be lies. Indian media and Indian government have already become a laughing stock world over for their lies.
In your dreams …..or your Hindi movie crap
Bangladesh is not Bangladesh it is East Pakistan even today. Earth is flat and hence tread carefully as you approach the edges lest you fall – that’s a typical Paki for you born and reared in denial, given drops of denial instead of Polio Drops.
Correct..!!
These pakis are habitual, perpetual liars..!!!
The whole world knows.
USA has also dissociated with them as discarded garbage..even Iran, Afghan want no ties with them.
Failed state as they have nothing todo except crying…INDIA…INDIA… INDIA…
They r not worthy to even merit a reaction to their anti India rants…..
Why not you Mr.Bird Brain Journalist of India ask permission from your Government to send you along with your Country American Ambassador, with of course a Primary School Slate & a chock in your shivering hands to count down the PAF F-16 Jets at one of our Air Force Base? May this be enough to satisfy your Stupid Media Sherlock Holme’s game of Investigations?
So the author admits that one of the Pakistani F-16 formations engaged Indian Sukhoi Su-30MKI jets (first paragraph after the intro). This vindicates Pakistani claim of having shot down two Indian jets, other being a Su-30. 🙂
This also explains more than one parachutes in the air at the end of the dogfight. In fact, one of the videos, available on social media, shows three parachutes and we know Su-30 is piloted by two personnel.
Also, the author claims that missile impact left the pilot injured “only” on the upper torso and facial region and not on the lower body. How could this possibly happen that shrapnel target only one part of the body and not others. And if he remained in the aircraft until after the impact, how did he manage to eject from an aircraft with a damaged canopy/cockpit afterwards — ejection system must have been damaged by now.
And yes, as has already been mentioned, the ninth photograph in this article was released by ANI on 27 Feb with the caption, “J&K: Pictures of craters formed from Pakistani bombs dropped near Indian Army post in Rajouri sector. Pic courtesy: Army sources)”. How come those Pakistani bombs metamorphosed into aircraft parts and managed to travel across the LOC?
THIS ARTICLE HAS NO SOURCE, NO PICTURES, NO VIDEOS, NOR ANY OTHER FORM OF EVIDENCE. IT IS HATE SPEECH, THE MAIN THING THAT DISRUPTS PEACE. IT IS BASED ON PURE SPECULATION, “It is my suspicion that Squadron Leader…”. MOST OF IT IS MAKING FALSE NONSENSE CONNECTIONS TO PAST EVENTS THAT *MAY* HAVE OCCURRED. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PICKED FROM AN IMAGINARY WORLD WHERE EVERYTHING THIS WRITER THINKS IS THE BIBLE N WE ALL SHOULD PREACH HIS/HER WORDS. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH BIAS. THIS ARTICLE REAKS OF IT. THE TITLE ALONE PROVES THIS AUTHOR’S BIAS.
HAVE ALL INDIAN MEDIA OUTLETS FALLEN SO LOW, AS TO SPREAD LIES, CONSPIRACY, HATE SPEECH, ETC.
IF ANYONE WHO READS THIS KNOWS HOW TO REPORT AN ARTICLE HERE, THEN PLEASE LET ME KNOW, I THINK ANY SANE MANAGER OR DIRECTOR WOULD KNOW THAT THIS IS COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE AND IS DEGRADING THE TRUST AND VALUE OF THE OUTPUT OF THIS MEDIA OUTLET.
THANKS
Apna dil khush kar lo jitna karna h yehi reh gaya h krnay kay liyay??
Bin Laden was not in Pakistan … Pakistan won 1971 war … U guys can stay happy with your lies …. No one believes you … Every country condemned Pakistan after Pulwama attack and every one appreciated India for its action … And Foreign Policy news is being provided fake as US state department has clarified that no count has been made yet .
How can u fight a wsr 1000s of miles away with locals brainwashed by India . What happened to u 1965, 1948 , Kargil and most recently at Kashmir . The whole world knows the truth but u guys day dreaming .
Hahahahahhhhhh. Samer Joshi
LMAO…..Indians are heros only in BW movies… Otherwise they have to take support of such Envelope Journalists
If Pak is hiding it then what about US reports. Let’s stop it. Let’s stop fighting.
Pakistan is always busy lying for everything. Let it be the wars they fought with India, let it be their own crumbling economy or a country full of shitty mujahid terrorists. Secondly you people talking about USA reports of no casualties of F-16 fighter by a Mig 21. Wake up idiots…it’s a USA built fighter jet and news of it getting killed by almost an Era old Mig 21 will kill it’s market and morale of their F-16 pilots as well because now they regret of giving their jets to idiotic Pakistani pilots who didn’t knew how to fly F-16 and got it killed.
And everyone knows the game of good and bad publicity.
Where is your evidence…….only radar signatures……hhhhh……what a childish thought
Your question was asked by many when the US report was released. But, please check your facts again. Pakistan also bought some second hand F-16s from Jordan when the arms embargo was imposed by USA soon after 9/11.
Thus, Pakistan can be in possession of an F-16 not sold by USA directly. Secondly, AIM 120 AMRAAM can only be launched on F-16 fighters that Pakistan possesses. Pakistan does not have F-18. No other country has F-22 or F-35 since USA has never sold them to other countries since they are stealth & fifth generation fighters.
I am somewhat of a military buff. Yes, it is a surprise that a MIG-21 shot down an F-16. They are 20 years apart in their development. Even the missiles have different ranges and capabilities.
Once the Indian pilot had the element of surprise, it was easy to close into a comfortable range for his own missile. This mistake here was that if the PAF pilot had continued his retreat, he would have easily outsped the MIG 21 and out of its missile range.
But, the PAF pilot might have been confident since he had the more advanced fighter as well as a longer range missile with active radar tracking (thus making AMRAAM a fire & forget missile). Hence, when he turned to face the MIG-21, he made a mistake because he invariably started reducing the distance between them. Thus, both missiles found their target and both planes went down as a result.
If you remove the element of surprise achieved by the IAF pilot and the decision by the PAF pilot to face him, it would have been impossible for the MIG-21 to down an F-16 at a long range since RF 73 has a range of 30 km while AMRAAM has a BVR (Beyond Visual Range) of 190 km.
U ppl r full of shitt like ur country y u trying so hard to make ppl believe that u r not a lier every time it coming up with something n next moment Ur down n even worst from b4 really ppl like u r the responsible for spreading hatred u ppl r such a loser every time u have been caught from the neck then u cry to Ur Papa USA come n help us u such a disgrace to the nation n to the humanity what u do is bark on couple of buks shame on u at least do have a courage to accept the truth n to tell the truth but y would u if ur not sincere to Ur motherland n to ur ppl then y u care for others Indian media is kinda joke what I hear n see is all barking…
It is very good sign for regional peace and stability that the you Indians remain in a state of denial and celebration and continue efforts to proof something which never happened. If IAF had even 1% proof of an F16 kill, they would not have fired their AOC on the very next morning. Imagine the circumstances (03 aircraft and 08 lives lost)where the top person incharge of the battle zone had to remove his ranks immediately…do you really think that the poor chap deserve this treatment on such a heroic of getting a F16 kill? Beside this, your PM admitting”desh ka bara nuqsaan” is a big testament to the events of 27/2. Please dig in more and continue to fool around…you deserve a pat on back and bigget pay check for your efforts…Bravo
Till today, pak is not acknowledging surgical strike, not acknowledging Balcot terrorist camp demolition. In past too, didn’t acknowledged shelter to Osama. So not surprised, if pak is denying martyerhood to its own pilot.
Abhy nandan is only eye witness of dogfighting, he is with you it’s mean Pakistan has given you the chance to come up with his interview, claiming destruction of F-16. Can you ask your Govt to witness the area across IOK ,where Pakistan claims to have surgical strike. One, Sku,1 MIG 21 and one helicopter destruction is enough damage to be buried.
Pakis are always spoke lies particularly on battlefield. In 1971, before 90,000 POWs were taken by Indian tps, they chest thumbing just 24 hours before that they are in advantage. Also what happened in Kargil? They refused to take the all dead bodies of their soldiers but selectively taken some. So it is not new that Pak is totally destroyed nation. My advise to the common people of pak that put pressure on your govt to shun the terrorism doctrine and join the hands with us to eradicate poverty. We both got indep on same day and see how we progressed economically.
Full masalha story for upcoming bollywood movie…lol….you can get a job in bollywood. We challenge you…dobara aao…or apney Baazu aazmao… Baato se bachey paida nhi hotey…
Dil ko khush rakhne ka ye khayal acha hai???
For sure it takes more than month to fabricate such a story coz all you have shown are images from Pakistan.
Come up with something more convincing. Ask nandoo to hold a press briefing.
Now I know it takes more than a month to Fabricate such writeup…. while truth is instantly visible.
All that you have to publish and Show is the images from Pakistan. Come up with something more credible.
Saari duniya main khilli ud gai tum logon ki.. Bus ab yeh hi Kar saktay ho.. Koi nai khush ho jao khud hi hamary khilaaf article likh k??????????Zara US ka article b parh Lena Bari tareefain hain us main tum sachon ki
Typical bollywood style twisty mirch masala story with lame excuses in order to cover the humiliation faced by IAF. You should rather accept your defeat. IAF lost 2 jets and 1 helicopter with several IAF jawan died on 27 Feb. Plus PAF also targetted on ground. Its a complete failure of Indian arm forces. Pakistan warned a day before and proved it on next day in a day light. If you have a doubt that Sqd Leader Hassan Siddique died that you better watch his video on his return and listen to his leaked phone call on youtube. Please improve the competency of your pilots before sending them on any Modi-venture.
I am surprised by the response received from various contributions received from Pakistan. If Pakistan has suffered no loss, why this vehemence and anger? These fellows are so disturbed by articles written in an Indian online magazine that they venture to cross international barriers and start protesting in an uncivil, abusive and pestilent language. What is the motive? Who in India is bothered about how you respond? . India knows how to handle Pakistan. We have beaten you thrice in the past. This T-20 mini version of air battle has again rattled Pakistanis as their nuclear bluff is called. The Pakistani generals, in spite of their bravado, , will no go near to the nuclear button. This is the reason Pakistanis are angry and write trash in Indian magazines.
People from India do the same on Dawn news Pakistan pages on Facebook. Nothing new bro ?
Who was that unlucky guy who was hospitalised in CMH, whether he in Indian or Pakistan. Where he is now? If PAF has all F-16 intact. The US could match their serial number with the inventory and clarify that whether the plane was given by Jordanian force or US and if it has been shot down? Why ISPR had to change their statement within hours after their claim of shooting down two Indian pilot?
Deep inside all the Pakistanis know that their F-16 was shot down by our MIG-21 Bison, just trying to defend themselves with a set of lies.
Reading this I remembered a famous quote:
“Never debate with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level of mind and then he will defeat you.”
Stop ranting Indians please, the face your army concealed and your Govt. shows is now in front of the world.
USA confirmed no F16 was used to shot down Indian mig21. Grow up please, live in reality, accept your flaws.
Regards,
SBH Jafri
What Pakistan stated was confirmed by pentagon as well as all international media whether it was fake claim of bombing balakot or shoot down of F16. Pakistan even showed all the firearms of Abhinandon’s Mig21 which could not get fired. Last and most important NO CONFIRMATION FROM ABHINANDON TOO and is out of picture. Is Abhinandon on leave or HOUSE ARREST?
I really read article to learn and know if ispr lied to us but in the end i realized the writer knows shit about whole insidend and is just throwing around theories hoping one would. Stick…..damn guyz u r miserable….there is a greatness in accepting when you have lost …we lost in 1971 in kargil but this time you did ….the army of those times is gone…and you should too stop seeing us through that old monocular of yours…and i would like to tell tye writer to see a psychologist coz he/she is in a oblivious state of mind…