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‘April status quo’ discussed as India, China generals hold 7-hour meeting over Ladakh

The formal meeting between the top military officers of India and China started around 11.30 am and is believed to have lasted until the evening.

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New Delhi: In a high-level meeting of nearly seven hours with Chinese counterparts, the Indian Army delegation, led by 14 Corps Commander Lt Gen. Harinder Singh, sought a return to the “status quo as of April” in eastern Ladakh and a pull back of Chinese build-up at the Line of Actual Control (LAC), ThePrint has learnt.  

The Chinese delegation to the meeting was led by Maj. Gen. Lin Liu, the commander of the South Xinjiang Military District.

The meeting follows a month-long standoff between the two nations in Ladakh along the western sector of their border.

The final outcome of the meeting, which started 11.30 am and lasted until the evening, was not immediately known. The meeting point at Chushul-Moldo, on the Chinese side of the LAC.

However, sources in the security establishment said no one should expect the situation to calm down with just one meeting, indicating that more parleys wold take place at various levels, including diplomatic.


Also Read: Top India, China officers talk border row, agree to manage ‘differences through discussion’


A long meeting

According to sources, the Indian delegation of nearly a dozen officers reached the meeting point at about 10 am, and was received by the Chinese side, headed by Maj. Gen. Lin Liu. This was followed by certain discussions and greetings, in keeping with protocol, the sources added.

The formal meeting started at about 11.30 and the delegation left the meeting point in the evening. There was also lunch,” a source told ThePrint.

Sources said, the meeting eventually ended after 6.30 pm. There were multiple rounds of meetings, including sessions on point of contention in the Pangong Lake where the Chinese have built a bunker and moat-like structure between Finger 3 and 4 to prevent Indian patrol teams from moving ahead.

A second source added that India’s demands during the meeting included a return to the status quo as of April. There were certain issues that India wanted to raise during the meeting. The foremost being that status quo as of April needs to be maintained by China, which means they need to pull back from areas of troop build-up as well as the transgression points,” the source said.

ThePrint had reported Friday evening that the agenda for talks was likely to include a return to status quo.

Asked about the final outcome of the meeting, a third source said Lt Gen. Singh will debrief Northern Army Commander Lt Gen. Y.K. Joshi and Army chief Gen. M.M. Naravane about the meeting.

‘Armed with peace agreements’

Sources said the Indian delegation at the meeting was armed with copies of agreements signed between the two countries in 1993, 1996, 2005, 2012 and 2013 for maintenance of peace at the LAC and for confidence-building measures.

The Ministry of External Affairs had stated last week that the two countries will resolve their differences in keeping with the five frameworks. As reported by ThePrint earlier, troop build-up by China along the LAC goes against the 1993 agreement.

Article III of the 1993 Agreement on the Maintenance of Peace and Tranquility along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areas says, “Each side will keep its military forces in the areas along the line of actual control to a minimum level compatible with the friendly and good neighbourly 66 relations between the two countries.”

But no numbers were mentioned in the agreement and what constitutes the “minimum level” had remained undefined, as outlined in a paper published by the Delhi-based think-tank Observer Research Foundation.

Article V of the 1996 Agreement between India and China on Confidence-Building Measures in the Military Field along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areas says aircraft cannot fly within 10 km of the LAC. It only allows “unarmed transport aircraft, survey aircraft and helicopters” to fly up to one km of the LAC. 

The military meeting came after senior officers of the Indian and Chinese foreign ministries held a video meeting and decided to resolve their differences “through peaceful discussion”.


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  3. I’m sorry, what was the conclusion at the end of the meeting?! This article gives zero info on what happened during the meeting, what progress was made, and what remains.

    If the takeaway from this article is, “there was a meeting but nothing can be expected to be resolved in one meeting only”, I think a tweet would’ve been enough, and you could’ve not wasted time with making people read an entire article.

  4. I’m sorry, what was the conclusion st the ens if the meeting?! This article gloves zero info on what happened during the meeting, what progress was made, and what remains.

    If the takeaway from this article is, “there was a meeting but nothing can he expected to be resolved in one meeting only”, I think a tweet would’ve been enough, and you could’ve not wasted time with making people read an entire article.

  5. what is April status quo have Chinese captured /encroache dfew thousand km of territory .. call tRUMP for help like US did in Kargil and India had to turn to ISrael

  6. The Pakistani commentators come here with their constipated anti-Hindu mindset because they are not taught anything else in their schools. By looking at everything from a religious angle they degrade the standard of the discussion. The article discusses the Sino-India face-off how and two mature countries are discussing the ways and means to resolve the issue; the Pakistani commentators without having any understanding of the issue just write their delirious blabber with no rhyme or reason. The Print should have a more stringent moderation policy where such comments can be filtered and the standard of the discussion can have a semblance of decency.

  7. War is not a solution. It is only last resort. So we have to see alternatives to the problems and misunderstandings.

  8. According to news reports , Chinese PLA has amassed a huge arms build-up across Ladakh border of India. The situation in eastern Ladakh is reported to have deteriorated when about 250 Chinese and Indian troops were engaged in a violent face –off at Pangong Tso on the evening of 5 May , 2020 which spilled over to the next day , that is , 6 May before the two sides agreed to “ disengage”. However , the stand-off continued. The worrisome concern for India is said to be located at three different locations in Ladakh and Sikkim having connectivity or proximity to Himachal Pradesh , J&K , and Uttarakhand. The talks held to defuse or resolve the situation at some military level did not yield results when it was upgraded to Lt General level for 6 June 2020. News reports said that talks between military commanders of India led by Lt. General and Chinese army team led by Major General held in Moldo on the Chinese side of LAC in Eastern Ladakh lasted for 5 hours on 6 June, 2020. The Indian army team has sought April status quo along LAC , and stopping of military build-up in Ladakh , which suggests that worrisome concern in Ladakh has come up in May 2020 coinciding with the implied alert of this writer published last year 2019 on 10 October , referred to hereinafter.
    In this context , it may be apt to refer readers to this Vedic astrology writer’s one of predictions for India in article – “ Predictions for coming year 2020 by kushal kumar” – published last year 2019 on 10 October at theindiapost.com/articles/predictions-for-coming-year-2020-by-kushal-kumar/. There was an implied but precise predictive alert in the following text of the said article :-
    “ The next three months from April to June 2020 appears to be a period of time testing ‘patience’ and ‘perseverance’ , introducing several parts of the country to worrisome concerns……………………………..In addition , it may be appropriate for some of States/UT in the north of India , against likely earthquake jolts during May-June , 2020 , particularly on the aforesaid dates. Such States as H.P. , J&K , Uttarakhand …….. …can be mentioned for taking precautions. Further , while dealing with or handling ……………fire-sensitive stuff , more care may be exercised”. Now , as regards dates , the text reads as :- “ Such dates of the month of May as 6 , 7 …………..may be watched with care”. Since the row involves territory which is land , alert of quake there could reasonably also imply some violent or worrisome development in the border which has some connectivity or nearness to H.P. , J&K and Uttarakhand.

  9. China and Pakistan are separate countries and issues. China invaded Tibet, we gave asylum to Dalai Lama and are very much able to defend our eastern front in all circumstances. 1967 war with China clarified any doubts Chinese had about Indian Armed forces capabilities. Pakistan invaded Kashmir in October 1947 and the then Maharaja of Kashmir aceeded Kashmir to India. But Pakistan kept on interfering in Kashmir by sending terrorists in India. Pakistan government keeps dead mum over Chinese brutalities on Ugihar Muslims that’s what called waging a dog’s tail in front of the master moreover the world doesn’t need to take lessons of wisdom from the country which harbours and give safe heaven to the world’s most wanted terrorists OSAMA BIN LADEN, Masood Azhar, Zhaveri….the list is endless..

  10. According to past experience specially pre 1962 agression by Chia these people cannot be trusted on any reason.

  11. The last moment changing the leader of its delegation , a much junior officer ,has again proved the Chinese mindset. So do not expect any positive results from the so called meeting . It was to show her (Chinese) ascendency over us. . A point to ponder.

  12. This is a good sign. More talks would dissipate energy for any action on the ground. In the context of a writer’s endeavours, D. H. Lawrence had called talking as “verbal masturbation”, meaning thereby that a writer who is all the time talking about his novel seldom gets down to actually writing it.

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  14. Chinese Huge Arms Build-Up Across Ladakh Border Of India With Incursions Into Indian Territorial There In May 2020 AND STRATEGIES TO DESCALATE THE TENSION.
    According to news reports , Chinese PLA has amassed a huge arms build-up across Ladakh border of India. The situation in eastern Ladakh is reported to have deteriorated when about 250 Chinese and Indian troops were engaged in a violent face –off at Pangong Tso on the evening of 5 May , 2020 which spilled over to the next day , that is , 6 May before the two sides agreed to “ disengage”. However , the stand-off continued. The worrisome concern for India is said to be located at three different locations in Ladakh and Sikkim having connectivity or proximity to Himachal Pradesh , J&K , and Uttarakhand. The talks held to defuse or resolve the situation at some military level did not yield results when it was upgraded to Lt General level for 6 June 2020. News reports said that talks between military commanders of India led by Lt. General and Chinese army team led by Major General held in Moldo on the Chinese side of LAC in Eastern Ladakh lasted for 5 hours on 6 June, 2020. The Indian army team has sought April status quo along LAC , and stopping of military build-up in Ladakh , which suggests that worrisome concern in Ladakh has come up in May 2020 coinciding with the implied alert of this writer published last year 2019 on 10 October , referred to hereinafter.
    In this context , it may be apt to refer readers to this Vedic astrology writer’s one of predictions for India in article – “ Predictions for coming year 2020 by kushal kumar” – published last year 2019 on 10 October at theindiapost.com/articles/predictions-for-coming-year-2020-by-kushal-kumar/. There was an implied but precise predictive alert in the following text of the said article :-
    “ The next three months from April to June 2020 appears to be a period of time testing ‘patience’ and ‘perseverance’ , introducing several parts of the country to worrisome concerns……………………………..In addition , it may be appropriate for some of States/UT in the north of India , against likely earthquake jolts during May-June , 2020 , particularly on the aforesaid dates. Such States as H.P. , J&K , Uttarakhand …….. …can be mentioned for taking precautions. Further , while dealing with or handling ……………fire-sensitive stuff , more care may be exercised”. Now , as regards dates , the text reads as :- “ Such dates of the month of May as 6 , 7 …………..may be watched with care”. Since the row involves territory which is land , alert of quake there could reasonably also imply some violent or worrisome development in the border which has some connectivity or nearness to H.P. , J&K and Uttarakhand.

  15. You foolish people, you murdered your own people, no food for you country full of debts taken from IMF, world bank, china from Europe to gulf to us . You fool paks , donot have brains.

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  17. India sent a Lt General and China sent a Maj General for talks on the issue. Indian envoy waited for one and a half hours for meeting with the Chinese counterpart, which is sufficient for Indians if they would like to understand.

  18. Hi, I don’t know is I am right or wrong but your media print is silent on the failure of modi govt over covid and economy so I request you to lay some more focus on what Moody’s told Indian economy was in bad situation before covid and is now because of bad governance and lack of reforms .

  19. Hi, I don’t know is I am right or wrong but your media print is silent on the failure of modi govt over covid and economy so I request you to lay some more focus on what Moody’s told Indian economy was in bad situation before covid and is now because of bad governance and lack of reforms .

  20. Jingoist, aggressive, nuclear-bluff, cold-start, ghus-k, surgical-strikes, and threatening language only reserved for a small neighbouring country Pakistan? Meanwhile China not only trespasses into area but also injures soldiers of India and occupy 35 sq km of land in Ladakh.

  21. How does it feel begging for status-quo to April? Now imagine the same feelings and helplessness of the people of Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir, whose status quo was revoked by BIackie Hindus from BJPig party, whose autonomy was revoked on August 05, 2019. Karma in which Hindus believe, is teaching you what you have forgotten about your own ideology. .

    • India should have grabbed some land of China so that India could bargain with..
      In the backyard Bromhose should be aimed at Peching..
      War is a game of loss and gain..India would start a all out war..not engaged himself in a mere border conflict..
      Now paper ? must realise Indian zeal..

    • There is no radical islamic terrorism in the India China equation. So talks are possible. Pakistan should first give up its useless policy of terrorism before thinking of talks.

      • Kashmir under curfew since months and months and months. Talking about terrorism now who is playing the terror tactics on unarmed kashmiri people. India’s Guts dont go far beyond terrorising, Depriving kashmiri people of basic human rights. The tyranny is pretty clear. I call it huge cowardness. China has effortlessly exposed that cowardness of indian armed militia on the LAC by not even firing one bullet but by kicking. Punching. Detaining and intimidating the already good for nothing indian army like a big boss. Back deep 60 km into their own freakin area. Now this is called a brutal humiliation. Why is modi silent. where the slogan kashmir is our atut Ang. What goes around comes around. India could not even defend their own land they were pushed back like a sweeper mop.

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