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Dude, get high less often and maybe you’ll get some facts right
BSF is amongst the best border guarding forces. One or two successful infiltrations cannot take away the credit from BSF of preventing 100s of infiltrations. Regarding Army for border duty. We know what happened in Kargil two decades back. Army was caught sleeping. It would never have happened if BSF was guarding the border
Good highlights of the issues involved. Has the MSM reported this aspect. It’s real stuff like this which should be focus of social media users instead of discussion of fake propoganda of parties. Solidarity & good wishes to all fighting forces and hope the political master’s support properly.
When they say that BSF should be put under the command of Army …it can be done…..so that intrusion like Kargil happens again, as it happened in command and control area of Army…..or failures like Pathankot, Uri etc gets repeated.
BSF has a lot of achievements in its account, specially during peak of militancy in Kashmir, Punjab, Assam etc, succesful foiling of attacks at Srinagar airport, Baramulla fidayeen attack. Also, posts occupied by BSF didn’t get intruded during Kargil intrusion in Kashmir.
BSF only needs to be commanded by its cadre officers, devoid of IPS cadre. However, some highly decorated officers of Army may be inducted into it at selected posts of Training and at the level of policy making. Further it needs to be equipped with better equipments, in consonance with suggestions from Intelligence agencies.
Well said Rohit. People forget that everyone does best in what they are trained to. When it comes to guarding the borders the BSF knows best. Army may have more firepower and is equipped to take on invading forces but it lacks the intelligence and expertise of the BSF in guarding borders from smugglers and terrorists. I agree BSF needs to be commanded by its cadre officers
Defending the indefensible after 30 odd brazen infiltration attempts and later carnage in the rear. Not acceptable.
All Armed forces of union need to be placed under single command structure. These BGFs can not be allowed to cook thier own broth at the cost of National security. Can BGFs fight thier wars at thier own sweet will. Govt needs to place these BGFs under CDS for synegy and coordination.
The CDS is too busy showering rose petals on corona warriors and launching Chinese-origin cars to also take the BFS under his wing. He might be better advised instead to reflect why we were caught with our proverbial trousers down by the PLA a second time in history; and whether he proposes to get them off our territory. Fulminating against Pakistan is all too easy … the real threat is from the other direction.
The culture of our Army, unfortunately, is highly parochial and turf-minded. Not just toward the police and paramilitary forces, but also towards the air force. The army brass loses no opportunity to make a case for showing that they ought to be the top dogs, never mind common sense and logic. It is particularly galling to see such an attitude at this time, when the Indian army was caught totally by surprise by the PLA in Ladakh, leading to the loss of hundreds of square miles of territory and the current stalemate which is costing us the lives of soldiers and thousands of crores of rupees of expenditure. Sadly, however, the army is a ‘holy cow’ and has gotten used to the adulation of the masses, which makes its leadership blind to their own shortcomings. Frankly, it is pathetic to see generals walking timidly behind politicians these days as the latter engage in PR stunts with army units as the backdrop.
There is a reason why most countries do not place their armies directly on the border in peacetime, and have a separate chain of command for the border guards: borders need policing to check criminal activity and terrorism based on intelligence, with cooperation from the local populace and care for civil law; putting soldiers trained to shoot first and ask questions later leads to all sorts of abuses, as has been the case in Kashmir and the North East for decades. Frankly, successful cases in India where terrorism was defeated – such as in Punjab in the 1990s – are classic examples of the army operating under command of the local police. At that time we had exemplary police leaders like KPS Gill and sensible army leaders like Gen. Sundarji. The present lot are of the ilk of V K Singh, bogged down in petty squabbling.
BSF under IPS command is a disaster, they don’t have temperament to handle borders nor are they hands on! I would suggest it has its own cadre but under MOD so that they work for the same objective
India does not need this kind of petty squabble about the turf, att a critical time when India is facing security threats both external from two hostile countries, and internal threats from sundry insurgents. This kind of turf dispute can be highly damaging to the country’s security. When something seriously goes wrong, everyone from PM to chaprasi takes security seriously and blames intelligence agencies for intelligence failure. Soon these lessons are forgotten and the turf squabbles rear their ugly heads. It is this kind of internicine quarrel which has helped our enemies dominate our country for one thousand years in the past.
THEN Why not army manning Jammu and Kashmir LOC.
BSF doing better than army that to without pension, ex servicemen status. Without equal pays and allowances.
Tenure policy of army is hard for 2 years and 4 yeras peace but whereas bsf always on borders.
Dude, get high less often and maybe you’ll get some facts right
BSF is amongst the best border guarding forces. One or two successful infiltrations cannot take away the credit from BSF of preventing 100s of infiltrations. Regarding Army for border duty. We know what happened in Kargil two decades back. Army was caught sleeping. It would never have happened if BSF was guarding the border
Good highlights of the issues involved. Has the MSM reported this aspect. It’s real stuff like this which should be focus of social media users instead of discussion of fake propoganda of parties. Solidarity & good wishes to all fighting forces and hope the political master’s support properly.
When they say that BSF should be put under the command of Army …it can be done…..so that intrusion like Kargil happens again, as it happened in command and control area of Army…..or failures like Pathankot, Uri etc gets repeated.
BSF has a lot of achievements in its account, specially during peak of militancy in Kashmir, Punjab, Assam etc, succesful foiling of attacks at Srinagar airport, Baramulla fidayeen attack. Also, posts occupied by BSF didn’t get intruded during Kargil intrusion in Kashmir.
BSF only needs to be commanded by its cadre officers, devoid of IPS cadre. However, some highly decorated officers of Army may be inducted into it at selected posts of Training and at the level of policy making. Further it needs to be equipped with better equipments, in consonance with suggestions from Intelligence agencies.
Well said Rohit. People forget that everyone does best in what they are trained to. When it comes to guarding the borders the BSF knows best. Army may have more firepower and is equipped to take on invading forces but it lacks the intelligence and expertise of the BSF in guarding borders from smugglers and terrorists. I agree BSF needs to be commanded by its cadre officers
Defending the indefensible after 30 odd brazen infiltration attempts and later carnage in the rear. Not acceptable.
All Armed forces of union need to be placed under single command structure. These BGFs can not be allowed to cook thier own broth at the cost of National security. Can BGFs fight thier wars at thier own sweet will. Govt needs to place these BGFs under CDS for synegy and coordination.
The CDS is too busy showering rose petals on corona warriors and launching Chinese-origin cars to also take the BFS under his wing. He might be better advised instead to reflect why we were caught with our proverbial trousers down by the PLA a second time in history; and whether he proposes to get them off our territory. Fulminating against Pakistan is all too easy … the real threat is from the other direction.
The culture of our Army, unfortunately, is highly parochial and turf-minded. Not just toward the police and paramilitary forces, but also towards the air force. The army brass loses no opportunity to make a case for showing that they ought to be the top dogs, never mind common sense and logic. It is particularly galling to see such an attitude at this time, when the Indian army was caught totally by surprise by the PLA in Ladakh, leading to the loss of hundreds of square miles of territory and the current stalemate which is costing us the lives of soldiers and thousands of crores of rupees of expenditure. Sadly, however, the army is a ‘holy cow’ and has gotten used to the adulation of the masses, which makes its leadership blind to their own shortcomings. Frankly, it is pathetic to see generals walking timidly behind politicians these days as the latter engage in PR stunts with army units as the backdrop.
There is a reason why most countries do not place their armies directly on the border in peacetime, and have a separate chain of command for the border guards: borders need policing to check criminal activity and terrorism based on intelligence, with cooperation from the local populace and care for civil law; putting soldiers trained to shoot first and ask questions later leads to all sorts of abuses, as has been the case in Kashmir and the North East for decades. Frankly, successful cases in India where terrorism was defeated – such as in Punjab in the 1990s – are classic examples of the army operating under command of the local police. At that time we had exemplary police leaders like KPS Gill and sensible army leaders like Gen. Sundarji. The present lot are of the ilk of V K Singh, bogged down in petty squabbling.
BSF under IPS command is a disaster, they don’t have temperament to handle borders nor are they hands on! I would suggest it has its own cadre but under MOD so that they work for the same objective
India does not need this kind of petty squabble about the turf, att a critical time when India is facing security threats both external from two hostile countries, and internal threats from sundry insurgents. This kind of turf dispute can be highly damaging to the country’s security. When something seriously goes wrong, everyone from PM to chaprasi takes security seriously and blames intelligence agencies for intelligence failure. Soon these lessons are forgotten and the turf squabbles rear their ugly heads. It is this kind of internicine quarrel which has helped our enemies dominate our country for one thousand years in the past.