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In Episode 1544 of CutTheClutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta looks at some top economists pointing to the pitfalls of ‘currency nationalism’ with data from 1991 to 2004.
Troops patrolled up to Patrolling Point (PP) 10 on Monday. Though there are PP 10, 11, 12, 12A & 13 in Depsang Plains, it was decided that only one or two PPs would be patrolled.
While we talk much about our military, we don’t put our national wallet where our mouth is. Nobody is saying we should double our defence spending, but current declining trend must be reversed.
INDIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HINDU MAJORITARIAN COUNTRY , WHERE EVEN DRAVIDIANS( REMOTE HINDUS) ARE TREATED IN A MOST SCURVY MANNER AND CONTEMPTUOUSLY TOO . IF A SHAMI OR A SHABANA AZMI OR A PATAUDI OR A KALAM MAKE A MARK IN INDIAN SOCIETY IT IS INSPITE OF THE ATMOSPHERICS , WHICH IS LOADED AGAINST HIM/HER . ONE RECALLS AS TO HOW MOHAMMED RAFI- THERE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN A GENTLER SOUL ON THE EARTH- WAS BEING GANGED UP AGAINST TO FINISH OFF HIS SINGING CAREER . ONE ALSO RECALLS AS TO HOW THE FORCES FINISHED OFF THE CAREER OF NAWAB OF PATAUDI AND REASONS WERE NOT EXACTLY CRICKET RELATED. SINCE THE BOGEY OF MUSLIM CREATES A SENSE OF FEAR AND POLARIZES IT IS BEING RUTHLESSLY EXPLOITED IN A MANNER BEFITTING PRIMORDIAL OF MEN RATHER THAN LEARNED ONES . TODAY’S “WINNING” POLITICAL CREDO IS GENERATE FEAR OF MUSLIMS AND ENGENDER HATRED OF MUSLIMS . OF COURSE, HATE AGAINST CHRISTIANS IS MORE MUTED AND NUANCED
All “thinking” Muslims are Muslims first before they are Indian, leftist, Congressi, etc. I want to give 2 examples that are pertinent here :
1) Umar Khalid in public statements has said that Kashmiri Pandits were not driven out of Kashmir valley by mass terrorism, but because the governor wanted the emigration to justify President rule. Ask any refugee Pandit if that’s the case. These Muslims want to create a smoke screen wherever truth is uncomfortable.
2) Islam is a bigoted cult and mass manufacturer of terrorism, consider this example :
Islam says that Allah revealed that a man is allowed 4 wives – how can this be logical or fair ? why not 3 or 5 ? It was a convenient fact to appease the Prophet’s (pbuh) followers who had conquered many slaves from the defeated tribes and were fighting over the fair ones. Remember he also himself took wives out of conquered tribes, that is not the act of a reformer. Why would a religious person need to have sex with conquered women, why not just grant asylum like any humanitarian would do ? Which God or Prophet can prescribe such an underlying discrimination that in the sub-conscious makes a woman = 25% of a man ?
Muslims , who flock to comment here , are most biased
” A Muslim is always expected to distance himself or herself from the faith, if he or she wants to be considered a ‘Good Muslim’ and a progressive citizen.” What a fantastic comment ! Does this truly reflect the thinking of educated Muslims of India ?
A sensible article by the young actvist Umar Khalid on the topic that he handled. Such a rebuttal/explanation was essential not only from the point of view of representing Muslims but also to speak on behalf of all those who follow other religions ( barring the majority religion) or no religion. This could well include people even from the majority community who do not feel that they belong to the majority religion as much as some privileged ones feel. Self-determination and self- independence, without affecting the existence of others, is everybody’s birthright which should be protected at any cost.
Very instrutive comments. I have the feeling that bjp trolls are trolling among themselves, often giving themselves names that sound “muslim” and the moment any one says anything sensible, the hoard of (payed?) trolls jump on them. why? what is the point?
haha.. even omar khalid know that he is exposed completely..his fake ethiest,liberal burkha etc teared by rightwing with fact .. using his own previous tweets.. so to make monkey balance this si just another article..
Umar Khalid is very good at playing Cricket and Kabbadi at the same time – one hour he is Communist, next hour he is Muslim secularist. He stands with the Islamic terrorists who attacked Parliament while at the same time doing sit-in in sympathy with Naxal causes!
This double game is now so well reheresed that even the “forever students” of JNU have so thoroughly confused themselves that even they don’t know if they are communists or theists or theist communists.!
While Umar Khalid has spent 500 words moaning about how horrible Hindu trolls are and how pitiful it is to be him – he has not said ONE WORD about the horrific murder of a man in his own home by what is plainly a large scale conspiracy of Muslim fanatics across India.
With self-promotion and self glorification as his only interests, Umar Khalid has shown who his real God is – his own ego!
As he clearly noted in the beginning, the investigation is underway. The preliminary official-accounts sound glaringly dubious, to convey as much as I can in “PC-SJW” terms.
Or shall I stop doing the charade dubbed niceties and clearly lay it all out, without mincing words? ?
Since you are publicly calling yourself a Leftist – it is reasonable to ask what it means. Are you an atheist? We know that you praised the Prophet. That is perfectly reasonable. Have you ever praised any other religion? Note that these are all appropriate questions once you raise the issue yourself. The most troubling part of this article is the selectivity of what you want to speak about. That doesn’t work if the purpose of your article is to get support for your cause; otherwise, it is just a narcissistic bit of writing.
Reply only open to you and ‘course, reply only if radically-honest.
Its time we should aslo include the teaching of Deobandh Madrasa in UP. They are exporting terrorism in the name of Islam. Aslo its time to have a open platform to discuss Quran and reform it. Insah-allah.
You guys think you’re playing it smart, aren’t you?playing victim card now? Prestitues like you and NDTV call this departed soul a “HINDU FRINGE” and call a scum Hijbul Mujahideen terrorist a “HIJBUL MUJAHIDEEN WORKER”…..waaaah…kya baat hai…claps on this secularism, SHAME ON YOU
A) I’ve already responded to this predictably now-cliché TP over at social-media.
B) So in an ideal-world, I should literally “call it a BS” for what it is and move the eff on.
C) But still: I’m deigning to regurgitate — first of all, NDTV®( the only one you’ve named) always calls Kashmiri secession-fighters as “terrorists”, so does every single mainstream outlet of the Indian press.
Second: The mere tweet which has got your knickers-in-a-twist, haven’t been substantiated by URL of the same or similar language in the article. Snaps can be easily forged, specially by those with full-time jobs of spin-doctoring.
Third: Even if it were true by all independently-reliable methods and it wasn’t a syndicated feed — how’s “workers” a positive connotation, exactly? That would’ve been the acceptable phrasing in Old School Journalism. But alas, there’s no reasonable that it is all but dead that early in 21st Century. And I often encounter news reports with ‘ Vahini’ or ‘ Vahini’, never ever I encounter any furore over not referring to them as even ‘militants’, let alone ‘extremists’ or ‘course, “T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-T-S”.
Did you care for the “departed soul” of Osama? When he was targeted in a military encounter? ?
Irfan Husain in his article “Demons from the Past” observes: “While historical events should be judged in the context of their times, it cannot be denied that even in that bloody period of history, no mercy was shown to the Hindus unfortunate enough to be in the path of either the Arab conquerors of Sindh and south Punjab, or the Central Asians who swept in from Afghanistan…The Muslim heroes who figure larger than life in our history books committed some dreadful crimes. Mahmud of Ghazni, Qutb-ud-Din Aibak, Balban, Mohammed bin Qasim, and Sultan Mohammad Tughlak, all have blood-stained hands that the passage of years has not cleansed..Seen through Hindu eyes, the Muslim invasion of their homeland was an unmitigated disaster.
“Their temples were razed, their idols smashed, their women raped, their men killed or taken slaves. When Mahmud of Ghazni entered Somnath on one of his annual raids, he slaughtered all 50,000 inhabitants. Aibak killed and enslaved hundreds of thousands. The list of horrors is long and painful. These conquerors justified their deeds by claiming it was their religious duty to smite non-believers. Cloaking themselves in the banner of Islam, they claimed they were fighting for their faith when, in reality, they were indulging in straightforward slaughter and pillage…”
Before positing my response: I do have a response on this one.
Although, you’re not gonna like it.
Even though I’ve learned it by taking a leaf outta the playbook of your ideological-compatriots.
If the whole Muslim population is placed under a restive “judgement” of mistrust, it is not the fault of the “other” but our own “private bomber” who believes that they are going to “paradise” if they blow up a cathedral or an opera house full of people. Nation dated 29/11/15
And certainly, an ‘Anonymous Coward #_____’ is the only one to be agenda-less, i.e. lack any agenda whatsoever.
A strategy of Islamists like you is to play the victim card. This strategy has been quite successful and the Left has embraced it. Win win for Islamists and Left. And the reason why Left is losing! You can fool once not always.
The ultimate victim is the faith Islam itself.
You most likely have lost the capability to comprehend that you’re merely doubling-down on substantiating his pointers without any effort from his side — beyond salvation.
Person who garlands the murderers are considered saint and Bhagwan in our country .All must join such a political party. The next every body will be safe
zakir naik openly insulted hindu gods several times.. he was awarded by so called leftists.. and still supports him.. mf hussain done so many pervert pictueres of hidnu gods.. still these leftist supports him and calls it freed om of expression.. and still those trened i am gauri lankesh after her death and her insult to hindu beliefe as her freedom of expression. are not crying foul ? strange.. these are the same umar khalid..when he was studying in jnu as their leader.. he and team made fun of hindu beliefs.. ..so tis clear now that.. he want other releigus believes to be insulted but they cry victim card to hide the sin like behading of kamlesh tivari..
Haha..!
Slayer! ?????? ????????
Well Said Maloy, they say nonsense because they all are stupid bhakth. A person who is not open can’t think positively & keep talking unlogical in hatred language. Let them go to hell
i got it now.. what gauri lankesh insulted to hindu gods are her freedom .. thats y umar khalid supported her freedom of expression.. what mf hussain draw pervert picture of hindu gods is his freedom of exression.. that y still these leftist burkha wearing people support him.. what zakir naik insulted hindu god are his freedom of expression.. umar khalid and his co leftist students insulting hidnu god durga in jnu campus is also freedom of expression.. but if any thing happens in oppsoite direction.. then we are victim.. so that is the logic you explained here..
Well written Mr.Khalid,May Allaah Bless this country and every one living here. Aameen
Well written ! During these times when vile vitriol against Muslims, along with malicious judgements given in the Lynching cases, this article of yours comes as a breather.
Those who are filled with the Hate for Islam, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will keep hating no matter what, your duty is to spread the message of peace as taught by it, no matter what.
Some of the verses in your holy texts make us very uncomfortable. You call us kaffirs and infidels and still you wonder why we do not hug you.
You come to Tamilnadu and Kerala.Day in day out they criticize the Hindu gods with impunity.Can you find any so-called secularists condemn them.The self acclaimed atheists mock Hindu Gods and the faith,they dare not touch non Hindu faiths.
Firstly no where in the article he defended the religion. He defended peoples’ right to practice their religion. And secondly he never made any derogatory or otherwise, any comment on Durga or any other Hindu gods. If you have please provide verifiable evidence.
Laage Raho Malay bhai. But do you just troll or have something original to say?
you realised it now.. same way hidnus also have right to defend their faith from insult by mf hussain or zakir naik or gauri lankesh..but surprisingly same umar khalid support gauri lankesh and mf hussain…. thats exactly..he want to insult hindu beleifs and enjoy it as freedom of exression..but if it happens in other way he plays vicitm card.. in short.. he use ethiest burkah to attack hindu beliefs and then some time burkha goes and come as his own identity..
Muslims are Muslims first before anything else. To speak otherwise, is a big lie.
Sounds like the OP has made a ‘drunken-comment’.
That’s the only possible justification, assuming he’s pretending to be existing in the offline-universe.
Umar Khalid ! Very well written…….Islam is a religion of Peace and Love. As a practicing Muslim I support your views.
इस्लाम का असली मकसद ही अमन है…
सारे जहाँ से अच्छा हिंदुस्तान हमारा
हम बुलबुलें हैं उसकी वो गुलसिताँ हमारा।
मज़हब नहीं सिखाता आपस में बैर रखना
हिंदी हैं हम वतन है हिंदुस्तान हमारा।
Really? Religion of peace? The proof is in the pudding.
Duh…!
Which standard??? ?
So finally, the Leftist “tadpole” metamorphs into a “Islamist” frog. It was inevitable, can’t bury ur true intentions for too long , and it also runs in the family. Guys like him and shehla Rashid are Islamist apologists at best if not Latent Jihadist.
You have taken up a Bengali Hindu name but you are an ISIS fundoo.
Haha..! ??????
Understatement, but still powerful. ????????
How’s talking about a religious-icon “Islamist”???
Duh…! You “pros” function so mechanically..
….That you most likely have lost the capability to comprehend that you’re merely doubling-down on substantiating his pointers without any effort from his side — beyond salvation
This guy khalid is a potential jihadi, even in this article he could not condemn gruesome Kamlesh Killing. Absolute farce written piece
I dunno whether you can even salvage the capability to comprehend or not: But you’re just doubling-down in substantiating his pointers.
And “condemn” how? He clearly spelled out at the beginning of this article that how the investigation of this flagrantly-dubious case is still under play. For instance, the case of those Pakistani artisans who worked and paid taxes in India — when they were bullied to condemn “T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-M”, they did. But even that wasn’t enough, as most of their phraseology wasn’t to liking of your ideological-compatriots. So you wanna get to the point or conveniently, say that you wanna script a condemnation to be amplified by him? ?
The comments here itself speak of the type of mindset people have. The comments have itself justified the article.
Boundary is drawn. Jinnah’s legacy is coming back.
Haha..!
Finally the most-succinct and yet most-articulate comment I’ve chronologically come across, so far. ?????? ????????
Thise islamic countries are exactly that…islamic… India however, is supposd to be secular.. (supposed,lol)
Till yet, at least on paper, its not a hindu rashtra. So go on n compare India to islamic countries, whoch are dictotorial. But remember, when the RSS’s supposed proposal aint a unified hindu rashtra which is inclusive to even ALL hindus….its just upper caste male dominant rashtra…so most people who are right now defending it, lol, when the time comes….even you guys will inevitably be at the receiving end….phir rehna china jaise…with fuckol rights.
(Wow… You’re allowed to use “F-bombs” on The Print®?!? For a website such as that: Didn’t knew it was a possibility. Or maybe your frequent typos mistaking ‘[sweet ]fuck all’ as “fuckol[sic]”, and therefore confusing auto-filters. But then, I hardly see that much unfiltered junk on commenting-boards/forums here unlike group-of-news-websites[ almost all of them belonging to legacy press corporations] which rely on a certain (ahem) self-styled “audience-engagement platform” of a commenting-platform which in turn relies on Google®’s Project Jigsaw® to auto-“moderate” comments based on mere strings — leading to the very same problem as “Scunthorpe” . If you don’t get it, you just have to ‘look around’. No need to go as far as finding somebody to talk to, who happens to work for the same platform and yet, is somehow radically-honest. I find the vilest of trash there because the ‘pros’ are proficient in a cheat dubbed ‘1337’. Something which beats the so-called “AI” like a knife cutting through the butter. And hence, only being successful in stifling totally well-intentioned comments almost totally. And I also don’t see the point of pretend “manual-moderation” if they genuinely don’t employ moderators and yet, withhold comments for hours just to give this impression that comments aren’t auto-moderated.
I just felt it odd given that I’ve noticed absolutely none of their authors beyond allowed to directly convey that word, even if journalistic principles will obligate its unsanitised usage to avoid confusion by the means of unambiguous reporting.
Regardless, if that’s genuinely the case: I’m elated.)
To the point: I understand what you’re going for, however: In terms of factuality, unless you narrow-down, your analogy with so-called “Islamic countries”( not all countries self-identify as “Islamic”, unlike-yet-somewhat-like DPRK and PRC: both of which call themselves “democratic republics”, cf. “National Socialism”, for instance) is factually half-baked.
About half of countries in the “Muslim world” don’t have any state-religion, at least on paper.
Giving communal color started by Congress, Leftist JNU Liberals jeans originally appeasement logic
Now reverse though unjustified if we can reorient old habits and uproot New the antidotes Indian Nationalism may grie
Mr Khanna – Do YOU have the guts to denigrate your ownGods? Please don’t post absurd questions without any logic. If you have seen the absolutely filthy garbage that is posted about the Prophet, you should not ask such questions!
bonga manush same goes for abuses hurled at Hindu god n goddess. it takes two to tango.. what goes around comes around so don’t be one sided both camp are wrong should be equally condemned. but bonga mukharjee i know you don’t have neutral conscience
@”persona non grata”: Huh…
Are you a sock-puppet, “dearie”? Or you a duly-appointed representative of first-commenter Mr “Rajiv Khanna”?
And above all: How does an individual criticising her/his/their own religious sacraments is vis-à-vis to criticising somebody else’s religious-sacraments?
And I can barely contain your concept of “conscience being neutral”, Mr Latin-loving ‘Anonymous Coward #_____’. ???
Why you didn’t reply to him directly?
this same question hindus asked to mf hussain, zakir naik , gauri lankesh etc etc..and aamir kahn in PK.. but at that time leftist including umar khalid blamed hindus as communal and zakir naiks ,mf hussan view as freedom of expression.. he is the same umar khalid who went with hashtag “i am gouri” .. y .? if he cant readly to critisism ..then y he is enjoying the insult to others beliefs ? so basically he is proving here. that.. only his releigus beleives are not to be questioned but he will insult other relegious believes .. thsi is called hypocracy..
Title and content don’t converge. None of the questions raised were addressed.
allegations* There! FTFY ☺️
I find the question fallacious itself!
Not to mention: I did find the article insufficient. In that, whether OWING to word-restrictions imposed by the relevant Editor or owing to the author’s own shortcomings, it didn’t even once delve into the academic dichotomy over the neo-invocation that “Leftism=Atheism”. [Which ]Sounds as pseudo-intellectual as prefixing ‘hyper’ to the noun ‘Nationalism’ and its derivatives. Now, given that it might be the case in certain, or almost all of bubble-universes[ located in innumerable nooks-&-corners of ‘pop-Interweb’] — but this blogging is not aimed for so-called “keyboard-warring” standards, its scope is severely restricted to the realm of offline-/real-universe.
Besides: If you stopped reading before the para[graph] 8, that’s on you. If you had difficulty comprehending something and didn’t retry, certainly even that’s on you.
Author has written an article as a sort of riposte to insinuation that how can a person who claims to be a leftist in social media patticularly twitter. But his arguments fall flat because not only islamophobes even liberals have problem with islamic extremism. I dont want to go into the gory details of isis or al qaeda or taliban, but fact is whole world including liberal muslims are scared of religious extremism particularly concerned with islam. While one can argue terrorism does not have religion but maximum impact of religious extremism has been inflicted by islamic terrorism. It is not only the terrorism but also the fact that not a single muslim majority country is secular with minorities free from religious persecution also plays a major role.unless the trust deficit is bridged world will continue to face clash of civilisation.
This comment is written as a sort of riposte to insinuation that how a certain religion the is consistently targeted in glaring animus against against a common-link of insurgency and..
…[Forget about ]Then immediately verging towards an oh-so-ingenious° essay on buzzword “T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-M” with hodgepodge understanding of miscellaneous abstracts and ideologies..
But fails to even gets its phraseology and typography right. ??????
Perhaps you better go back condomless to ‘make babies’, nothing long-lasting to gain out of “making sins” anyways.°
You come out because you are a islamists jihadi who clebrates beheading of kafir, you trying to say those rallies of thousands giving threat of beheading was out of compassion, there is no atheist Muslim or secular muslim, Muslim are of just two type one who behead kafir and other group like you come out to support and mainstreaming that beheading with good fake stories..
Assuming you’re far-reaching merely by religious-affiliation: Have you counted each one of them? Checked the birth-certificates of each one of them?
And above all, I think you can’t even exhaustively define “Muslim” — let alone your commentary on “types”.
the fact that you are able to voice your views in this mag says a lot about the ghosts in your head !!
This magazine is run by alleged “Coupta Ji” so I dunno whatcha getting at?!!
Oh, wait.. Is this an admission that private press outlets are beholden to the regime-of-the-day or at the very least, the said regime holds adequate power to control the editorial-slant of such publications??? In a so-called “World’s Largest Democracy”? ????
Umar Khalid. Very well written…….Islam is a religion of Peace and Love. As a practicing Muslim I support your views.
If you can’t shun the tag of ‘Anonymous Coward #_____’ to just fill everywhere with hot-air.
Simple question and a simple answer can suffice. Muslims like Owaisi openly denigrate Hindu Gods; can any non Muslim scoff at Mohammed even in a Hindu dominant India? How much freedom do Muslim countries give to non Muslims? Don’t know whom you are trying to convince with your warped logic except for twisted minds like yours
Another lie straight from Nagpur factory. Owaisi never berated hindu gods, at least in public. If he did it privately to you or anybody else, I don’t know.
Search on Google. You will find YouTube videos.
Whom is this addressed to…? ?
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Not only owaisi did , all mullas do it brazenly
A) How many “Muslim countries” have you visited, precisely? And what are your observations about each one of them? Because I don’t even have to move to see that “non-Moslems” from locations tagged like “Dubai”, “Jeddah” and “Muscat” not shying away from “scoffing”. I assume you won’t shy away from attaching the “Muslim” tag to these metropolises now, will ya? ?
B) I second what Mr @Malay Deb asserted. I’m yet-to-come-across any such evidence, and sadly for ya: I’ve stopped admit TPs as “evidences” for substantiation since long. But to save you the trouble, if you’re referring to that meat-production remarks made by MLA Akbaruddin Owaisi, I’m Sorry but I’ve no choice but to dispose-off your grievance as not every single ? can be equated to “Kamadhenu”. If that sounds cold, you ought to chin-up as I didn’t falsified your whole-argument through classifying it as “False Equivalence” given ‘Mohammedans’ revere only one Prophet even though all Islam-followers are generalised by outsiders like you, whereas there’s not even a sizable consensus as to why many “Gods” are in Sanaatana Dharma( read “Hinduism”). Let alone the point of reverence towards each.
C) “Warped logic”: As-cliché-as-funnily-idiosyncratic-phraseology. ???
How’s it “warped”, precisely? Did supporters of whichever “Owaisi” trended “Boycott Sanaatanis Totally” or something to such degree in your bubble-universe[ located in some nook-&-corner of ‘pop-Interweb’]?
INDIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HINDU MAJORITARIAN COUNTRY , WHERE EVEN DRAVIDIANS( REMOTE HINDUS) ARE TREATED IN A MOST SCURVY MANNER AND CONTEMPTUOUSLY TOO . IF A SHAMI OR A SHABANA AZMI OR A PATAUDI OR A KALAM MAKE A MARK IN INDIAN SOCIETY IT IS INSPITE OF THE ATMOSPHERICS , WHICH IS LOADED AGAINST HIM/HER . ONE RECALLS AS TO HOW MOHAMMED RAFI- THERE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN A GENTLER SOUL ON THE EARTH- WAS BEING GANGED UP AGAINST TO FINISH OFF HIS SINGING CAREER . ONE ALSO RECALLS AS TO HOW THE FORCES FINISHED OFF THE CAREER OF NAWAB OF PATAUDI AND REASONS WERE NOT EXACTLY CRICKET RELATED. SINCE THE BOGEY OF MUSLIM CREATES A SENSE OF FEAR AND POLARIZES IT IS BEING RUTHLESSLY EXPLOITED IN A MANNER BEFITTING PRIMORDIAL OF MEN RATHER THAN LEARNED ONES . TODAY’S “WINNING” POLITICAL CREDO IS GENERATE FEAR OF MUSLIMS AND ENGENDER HATRED OF MUSLIMS . OF COURSE, HATE AGAINST CHRISTIANS IS MORE MUTED AND NUANCED
All “thinking” Muslims are Muslims first before they are Indian, leftist, Congressi, etc. I want to give 2 examples that are pertinent here :
1) Umar Khalid in public statements has said that Kashmiri Pandits were not driven out of Kashmir valley by mass terrorism, but because the governor wanted the emigration to justify President rule. Ask any refugee Pandit if that’s the case. These Muslims want to create a smoke screen wherever truth is uncomfortable.
2) Islam is a bigoted cult and mass manufacturer of terrorism, consider this example :
Islam says that Allah revealed that a man is allowed 4 wives – how can this be logical or fair ? why not 3 or 5 ? It was a convenient fact to appease the Prophet’s (pbuh) followers who had conquered many slaves from the defeated tribes and were fighting over the fair ones. Remember he also himself took wives out of conquered tribes, that is not the act of a reformer. Why would a religious person need to have sex with conquered women, why not just grant asylum like any humanitarian would do ? Which God or Prophet can prescribe such an underlying discrimination that in the sub-conscious makes a woman = 25% of a man ?
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They will obfuscate the truth forever
Muslims , who flock to comment here , are most biased
” A Muslim is always expected to distance himself or herself from the faith, if he or she wants to be considered a ‘Good Muslim’ and a progressive citizen.” What a fantastic comment ! Does this truly reflect the thinking of educated Muslims of India ?
A sensible article by the young actvist Umar Khalid on the topic that he handled. Such a rebuttal/explanation was essential not only from the point of view of representing Muslims but also to speak on behalf of all those who follow other religions ( barring the majority religion) or no religion. This could well include people even from the majority community who do not feel that they belong to the majority religion as much as some privileged ones feel. Self-determination and self- independence, without affecting the existence of others, is everybody’s birthright which should be protected at any cost.
Very instrutive comments. I have the feeling that bjp trolls are trolling among themselves, often giving themselves names that sound “muslim” and the moment any one says anything sensible, the hoard of (payed?) trolls jump on them. why? what is the point?
haha.. even omar khalid know that he is exposed completely..his fake ethiest,liberal burkha etc teared by rightwing with fact .. using his own previous tweets.. so to make monkey balance this si just another article..
Umar Khalid is very good at playing Cricket and Kabbadi at the same time – one hour he is Communist, next hour he is Muslim secularist. He stands with the Islamic terrorists who attacked Parliament while at the same time doing sit-in in sympathy with Naxal causes!
This double game is now so well reheresed that even the “forever students” of JNU have so thoroughly confused themselves that even they don’t know if they are communists or theists or theist communists.!
While Umar Khalid has spent 500 words moaning about how horrible Hindu trolls are and how pitiful it is to be him – he has not said ONE WORD about the horrific murder of a man in his own home by what is plainly a large scale conspiracy of Muslim fanatics across India.
With self-promotion and self glorification as his only interests, Umar Khalid has shown who his real God is – his own ego!
Your rest of the template BS aside: Nope, bull!
As he clearly noted in the beginning, the investigation is underway. The preliminary official-accounts sound glaringly dubious, to convey as much as I can in “PC-SJW” terms.
Or shall I stop doing the charade dubbed niceties and clearly lay it all out, without mincing words? ?
Since you are publicly calling yourself a Leftist – it is reasonable to ask what it means. Are you an atheist? We know that you praised the Prophet. That is perfectly reasonable. Have you ever praised any other religion? Note that these are all appropriate questions once you raise the issue yourself. The most troubling part of this article is the selectivity of what you want to speak about. That doesn’t work if the purpose of your article is to get support for your cause; otherwise, it is just a narcissistic bit of writing.
Are you and Mr “Gopal” one-and-same?
Reply only open to you and ‘course, reply only if radically-honest.
Its time we should aslo include the teaching of Deobandh Madrasa in UP. They are exporting terrorism in the name of Islam. Aslo its time to have a open platform to discuss Quran and reform it. Insah-allah.
You guys think you’re playing it smart, aren’t you?playing victim card now? Prestitues like you and NDTV call this departed soul a “HINDU FRINGE” and call a scum Hijbul Mujahideen terrorist a “HIJBUL MUJAHIDEEN WORKER”…..waaaah…kya baat hai…claps on this secularism, SHAME ON YOU
A) I’ve already responded to this predictably now-cliché TP over at social-media.
B) So in an ideal-world, I should literally “call it a BS” for what it is and move the eff on.
C) But still: I’m deigning to regurgitate — first of all, NDTV®( the only one you’ve named) always calls Kashmiri secession-fighters as “terrorists”, so does every single mainstream outlet of the Indian press.
Second: The mere tweet which has got your knickers-in-a-twist, haven’t been substantiated by URL of the same or similar language in the article. Snaps can be easily forged, specially by those with full-time jobs of spin-doctoring.
Third: Even if it were true by all independently-reliable methods and it wasn’t a syndicated feed — how’s “workers” a positive connotation, exactly? That would’ve been the acceptable phrasing in Old School Journalism. But alas, there’s no reasonable that it is all but dead that early in 21st Century. And I often encounter news reports with ‘ Vahini’ or ‘ Vahini’, never ever I encounter any furore over not referring to them as even ‘militants’, let alone ‘extremists’ or ‘course, “T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-T-S”.
Did you care for the “departed soul” of Osama? When he was targeted in a military encounter? ?
Irfan Husain in his article “Demons from the Past” observes: “While historical events should be judged in the context of their times, it cannot be denied that even in that bloody period of history, no mercy was shown to the Hindus unfortunate enough to be in the path of either the Arab conquerors of Sindh and south Punjab, or the Central Asians who swept in from Afghanistan…The Muslim heroes who figure larger than life in our history books committed some dreadful crimes. Mahmud of Ghazni, Qutb-ud-Din Aibak, Balban, Mohammed bin Qasim, and Sultan Mohammad Tughlak, all have blood-stained hands that the passage of years has not cleansed..Seen through Hindu eyes, the Muslim invasion of their homeland was an unmitigated disaster.
“Their temples were razed, their idols smashed, their women raped, their men killed or taken slaves. When Mahmud of Ghazni entered Somnath on one of his annual raids, he slaughtered all 50,000 inhabitants. Aibak killed and enslaved hundreds of thousands. The list of horrors is long and painful. These conquerors justified their deeds by claiming it was their religious duty to smite non-believers. Cloaking themselves in the banner of Islam, they claimed they were fighting for their faith when, in reality, they were indulging in straightforward slaughter and pillage…”
Before positing my response: I do have a response on this one.
Although, you’re not gonna like it.
Even though I’ve learned it by taking a leaf outta the playbook of your ideological-compatriots.
If the whole Muslim population is placed under a restive “judgement” of mistrust, it is not the fault of the “other” but our own “private bomber” who believes that they are going to “paradise” if they blow up a cathedral or an opera house full of people. Nation dated 29/11/15
Loose citation.
Muslims are using leftist to get their real agenda thats why leftist are in declined
And certainly, an ‘Anonymous Coward #_____’ is the only one to be agenda-less, i.e. lack any agenda whatsoever.
A strategy of Islamists like you is to play the victim card. This strategy has been quite successful and the Left has embraced it. Win win for Islamists and Left. And the reason why Left is losing! You can fool once not always.
The ultimate victim is the faith Islam itself.
You most likely have lost the capability to comprehend that you’re merely doubling-down on substantiating his pointers without any effort from his side — beyond salvation.
Person who garlands the murderers are considered saint and Bhagwan in our country .All must join such a political party. The next every body will be safe
zakir naik openly insulted hindu gods several times.. he was awarded by so called leftists.. and still supports him.. mf hussain done so many pervert pictueres of hidnu gods.. still these leftist supports him and calls it freed om of expression.. and still those trened i am gauri lankesh after her death and her insult to hindu beliefe as her freedom of expression. are not crying foul ? strange.. these are the same umar khalid..when he was studying in jnu as their leader.. he and team made fun of hindu beliefs.. ..so tis clear now that.. he want other releigus believes to be insulted but they cry victim card to hide the sin like behading of kamlesh tivari..
Haha..!
Slayer! ?????? ????????
Well Said Maloy, they say nonsense because they all are stupid bhakth. A person who is not open can’t think positively & keep talking unlogical in hatred language. Let them go to hell
i got it now.. what gauri lankesh insulted to hindu gods are her freedom .. thats y umar khalid supported her freedom of expression.. what mf hussain draw pervert picture of hindu gods is his freedom of exression.. that y still these leftist burkha wearing people support him.. what zakir naik insulted hindu god are his freedom of expression.. umar khalid and his co leftist students insulting hidnu god durga in jnu campus is also freedom of expression.. but if any thing happens in oppsoite direction.. then we are victim.. so that is the logic you explained here..
Well written Mr.Khalid,May Allaah Bless this country and every one living here. Aameen
Well written ! During these times when vile vitriol against Muslims, along with malicious judgements given in the Lynching cases, this article of yours comes as a breather.
Those who are filled with the Hate for Islam, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will keep hating no matter what, your duty is to spread the message of peace as taught by it, no matter what.
Some of the verses in your holy texts make us very uncomfortable. You call us kaffirs and infidels and still you wonder why we do not hug you.
You come to Tamilnadu and Kerala.Day in day out they criticize the Hindu gods with impunity.Can you find any so-called secularists condemn them.The self acclaimed atheists mock Hindu Gods and the faith,they dare not touch non Hindu faiths.
Whataboutism.
Sheer whataboutism.
And that’s only the beginning.
What intrigues me is your dedication to your religion while propagating left philosophy. What happened to comments about durga and other hindu gods.
Firstly no where in the article he defended the religion. He defended peoples’ right to practice their religion. And secondly he never made any derogatory or otherwise, any comment on Durga or any other Hindu gods. If you have please provide verifiable evidence.
Laage Raho Malay bhai. But do you just troll or have something original to say?
you realised it now.. same way hidnus also have right to defend their faith from insult by mf hussain or zakir naik or gauri lankesh..but surprisingly same umar khalid support gauri lankesh and mf hussain…. thats exactly..he want to insult hindu beleifs and enjoy it as freedom of exression..but if it happens in other way he plays vicitm card.. in short.. he use ethiest burkah to attack hindu beliefs and then some time burkha goes and come as his own identity..
Muslims are Muslims first before anything else. To speak otherwise, is a big lie.
Sounds like the OP has made a ‘drunken-comment’.
That’s the only possible justification, assuming he’s pretending to be existing in the offline-universe.
Umar Khalid ! Very well written…….Islam is a religion of Peace and Love. As a practicing Muslim I support your views.
इस्लाम का असली मकसद ही अमन है…
सारे जहाँ से अच्छा हिंदुस्तान हमारा
हम बुलबुलें हैं उसकी वो गुलसिताँ हमारा।
मज़हब नहीं सिखाता आपस में बैर रखना
हिंदी हैं हम वतन है हिंदुस्तान हमारा।
Really? Religion of peace? The proof is in the pudding.
Duh…!
Which standard??? ?
So finally, the Leftist “tadpole” metamorphs into a “Islamist” frog. It was inevitable, can’t bury ur true intentions for too long , and it also runs in the family. Guys like him and shehla Rashid are Islamist apologists at best if not Latent Jihadist.
Just as you are a prospective Nathuram Godse!
You have taken up a Bengali Hindu name but you are an ISIS fundoo.
Haha..! ??????
Understatement, but still powerful. ????????
How’s talking about a religious-icon “Islamist”???
Duh…! You “pros” function so mechanically..
….That you most likely have lost the capability to comprehend that you’re merely doubling-down on substantiating his pointers without any effort from his side — beyond salvation
This guy khalid is a potential jihadi, even in this article he could not condemn gruesome Kamlesh Killing. Absolute farce written piece
Bwahahahahaha!
I dunno whether you can even salvage the capability to comprehend or not: But you’re just doubling-down in substantiating his pointers.
And “condemn” how? He clearly spelled out at the beginning of this article that how the investigation of this flagrantly-dubious case is still under play. For instance, the case of those Pakistani artisans who worked and paid taxes in India — when they were bullied to condemn “T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-M”, they did. But even that wasn’t enough, as most of their phraseology wasn’t to liking of your ideological-compatriots. So you wanna get to the point or conveniently, say that you wanna script a condemnation to be amplified by him? ?
The comments here itself speak of the type of mindset people have. The comments have itself justified the article.
Very well put.
Boundary is drawn. Jinnah’s legacy is coming back.
Haha..!
Finally the most-succinct and yet most-articulate comment I’ve chronologically come across, so far. ?????? ????????
Thise islamic countries are exactly that…islamic… India however, is supposd to be secular.. (supposed,lol)
Till yet, at least on paper, its not a hindu rashtra. So go on n compare India to islamic countries, whoch are dictotorial. But remember, when the RSS’s supposed proposal aint a unified hindu rashtra which is inclusive to even ALL hindus….its just upper caste male dominant rashtra…so most people who are right now defending it, lol, when the time comes….even you guys will inevitably be at the receiving end….phir rehna china jaise…with fuckol rights.
(Wow… You’re allowed to use “F-bombs” on The Print®?!? For a website such as that: Didn’t knew it was a possibility. Or maybe your frequent typos mistaking ‘[sweet ]fuck all’ as “fuckol[sic]”, and therefore confusing auto-filters. But then, I hardly see that much unfiltered junk on commenting-boards/forums here unlike group-of-news-websites[ almost all of them belonging to legacy press corporations] which rely on a certain (ahem) self-styled “audience-engagement platform” of a commenting-platform which in turn relies on Google®’s Project Jigsaw® to auto-“moderate” comments based on mere strings — leading to the very same problem as “Scunthorpe” . If you don’t get it, you just have to ‘look around’. No need to go as far as finding somebody to talk to, who happens to work for the same platform and yet, is somehow radically-honest. I find the vilest of trash there because the ‘pros’ are proficient in a cheat dubbed ‘1337’. Something which beats the so-called “AI” like a knife cutting through the butter. And hence, only being successful in stifling totally well-intentioned comments almost totally. And I also don’t see the point of pretend “manual-moderation” if they genuinely don’t employ moderators and yet, withhold comments for hours just to give this impression that comments aren’t auto-moderated.
I just felt it odd given that I’ve noticed absolutely none of their authors beyond allowed to directly convey that word, even if journalistic principles will obligate its unsanitised usage to avoid confusion by the means of unambiguous reporting.
Regardless, if that’s genuinely the case: I’m elated.)
To the point: I understand what you’re going for, however: In terms of factuality, unless you narrow-down, your analogy with so-called “Islamic countries”( not all countries self-identify as “Islamic”, unlike-yet-somewhat-like DPRK and PRC: both of which call themselves “democratic republics”, cf. “National Socialism”, for instance) is factually half-baked.
About half of countries in the “Muslim world” don’t have any state-religion, at least on paper.
Giving communal color started by Congress, Leftist JNU Liberals jeans originally appeasement logic
Now reverse though unjustified if we can reorient old habits and uproot New the antidotes Indian Nationalism may grie
Come again???
Try rephrasing, perhaps?
Mr Khanna – Do YOU have the guts to denigrate your ownGods? Please don’t post absurd questions without any logic. If you have seen the absolutely filthy garbage that is posted about the Prophet, you should not ask such questions!
bonga manush same goes for abuses hurled at Hindu god n goddess. it takes two to tango.. what goes around comes around so don’t be one sided both camp are wrong should be equally condemned. but bonga mukharjee i know you don’t have neutral conscience
@”persona non grata”: Huh…
Are you a sock-puppet, “dearie”? Or you a duly-appointed representative of first-commenter Mr “Rajiv Khanna”?
And above all: How does an individual criticising her/his/their own religious sacraments is vis-à-vis to criticising somebody else’s religious-sacraments?
And I can barely contain your concept of “conscience being neutral”, Mr Latin-loving ‘Anonymous Coward #_____’. ???
Why you didn’t reply to him directly?
this same question hindus asked to mf hussain, zakir naik , gauri lankesh etc etc..and aamir kahn in PK.. but at that time leftist including umar khalid blamed hindus as communal and zakir naiks ,mf hussan view as freedom of expression.. he is the same umar khalid who went with hashtag “i am gouri” .. y .? if he cant readly to critisism ..then y he is enjoying the insult to others beliefs ? so basically he is proving here. that.. only his releigus beleives are not to be questioned but he will insult other relegious believes .. thsi is called hypocracy..
Title and content don’t converge. None of the questions raised were addressed.
allegations* There! FTFY ☺️
I find the question fallacious itself!
Not to mention: I did find the article insufficient. In that, whether OWING to word-restrictions imposed by the relevant Editor or owing to the author’s own shortcomings, it didn’t even once delve into the academic dichotomy over the neo-invocation that “Leftism=Atheism”. [Which ]Sounds as pseudo-intellectual as prefixing ‘hyper’ to the noun ‘Nationalism’ and its derivatives. Now, given that it might be the case in certain, or almost all of bubble-universes[ located in innumerable nooks-&-corners of ‘pop-Interweb’] — but this blogging is not aimed for so-called “keyboard-warring” standards, its scope is severely restricted to the realm of offline-/real-universe.
Besides: If you stopped reading before the para[graph] 8, that’s on you. If you had difficulty comprehending something and didn’t retry, certainly even that’s on you.
Author has written an article as a sort of riposte to insinuation that how can a person who claims to be a leftist in social media patticularly twitter. But his arguments fall flat because not only islamophobes even liberals have problem with islamic extremism. I dont want to go into the gory details of isis or al qaeda or taliban, but fact is whole world including liberal muslims are scared of religious extremism particularly concerned with islam. While one can argue terrorism does not have religion but maximum impact of religious extremism has been inflicted by islamic terrorism. It is not only the terrorism but also the fact that not a single muslim majority country is secular with minorities free from religious persecution also plays a major role.unless the trust deficit is bridged world will continue to face clash of civilisation.
This comment is written as a sort of riposte to insinuation that how a certain religion the is consistently targeted in glaring animus against against a common-link of insurgency and..
…[Forget about ]Then immediately verging towards an oh-so-ingenious° essay on buzzword “T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-M” with hodgepodge understanding of miscellaneous abstracts and ideologies..
But fails to even gets its phraseology and typography right. ??????
Spoke exactly what Imran Khan said in the UNGA.
Assuming if that’s even true: …And?
Your point being?
Or is that merely a dog-whistle? Something which turns into an actual possibility if you’re relying on a pseudonym for commenting.
I made a sin by reading print .all my hindu brothers boycott print and jihadi papers
Yeah..!
Mr”Iyerwal” is one heck of a sinner.
Perhaps you better go back condomless to ‘make babies’, nothing long-lasting to gain out of “making sins” anyways.°
You come out because you are a islamists jihadi who clebrates beheading of kafir, you trying to say those rallies of thousands giving threat of beheading was out of compassion, there is no atheist Muslim or secular muslim, Muslim are of just two type one who behead kafir and other group like you come out to support and mainstreaming that beheading with good fake stories..
Bwahahahaha!
Which random video?
Assuming you’re far-reaching merely by religious-affiliation: Have you counted each one of them? Checked the birth-certificates of each one of them?
And above all, I think you can’t even exhaustively define “Muslim” — let alone your commentary on “types”.
the fact that you are able to voice your views in this mag says a lot about the ghosts in your head !!
Say what???
This magazine is run by alleged “Coupta Ji” so I dunno whatcha getting at?!!
Oh, wait.. Is this an admission that private press outlets are beholden to the regime-of-the-day or at the very least, the said regime holds adequate power to control the editorial-slant of such publications??? In a so-called “World’s Largest Democracy”? ????
Umar Khalid. Very well written…….Islam is a religion of Peace and Love. As a practicing Muslim I support your views.
oh you meant piece not peace right?
Duh…!
Get original — at the very least.
If you can’t shun the tag of ‘Anonymous Coward #_____’ to just fill everywhere with hot-air.
Simple question and a simple answer can suffice. Muslims like Owaisi openly denigrate Hindu Gods; can any non Muslim scoff at Mohammed even in a Hindu dominant India? How much freedom do Muslim countries give to non Muslims? Don’t know whom you are trying to convince with your warped logic except for twisted minds like yours
Another lie straight from Nagpur factory. Owaisi never berated hindu gods, at least in public. If he did it privately to you or anybody else, I don’t know.
Search on Google. You will find YouTube videos.
Whom is this addressed to…? ?
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Not only owaisi did , all mullas do it brazenly
A) How many “Muslim countries” have you visited, precisely? And what are your observations about each one of them? Because I don’t even have to move to see that “non-Moslems” from locations tagged like “Dubai”, “Jeddah” and “Muscat” not shying away from “scoffing”. I assume you won’t shy away from attaching the “Muslim” tag to these metropolises now, will ya? ?
B) I second what Mr @Malay Deb asserted. I’m yet-to-come-across any such evidence, and sadly for ya: I’ve stopped admit TPs as “evidences” for substantiation since long. But to save you the trouble, if you’re referring to that meat-production remarks made by MLA Akbaruddin Owaisi, I’m Sorry but I’ve no choice but to dispose-off your grievance as not every single ? can be equated to “Kamadhenu”. If that sounds cold, you ought to chin-up as I didn’t falsified your whole-argument through classifying it as “False Equivalence” given ‘Mohammedans’ revere only one Prophet even though all Islam-followers are generalised by outsiders like you, whereas there’s not even a sizable consensus as to why many “Gods” are in Sanaatana Dharma( read “Hinduism”). Let alone the point of reverence towards each.
C) “Warped logic”: As-cliché-as-funnily-idiosyncratic-phraseology. ???
How’s it “warped”, precisely? Did supporters of whichever “Owaisi” trended “Boycott Sanaatanis Totally” or something to such degree in your bubble-universe[ located in some nook-&-corner of ‘pop-Interweb’]?