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looks collisions of figures of illusions . one side appears to paid by pharma lobby eyeing financial windfalls from testing , other want GHAR bandi to ease to start business
You see, immunity is a function of exposure. Exposure both to pathogens and a reasonably unhygienic environment. The infectious disease especially of the respiratory system and lungs also have a lot to do with cold climate and lack of sunshine, a big role also being played by vitamin D one gets from sun exposure which poor and middle class in India have in plenty. So, conditions in India are not conducive to widespread respiratory disease expansion in India.
So the lockdown decision as hasty as it was has been a faulty decision destroying our economy in the process without any disease containment benefits. To embellish my viewpoint, I will like to draw attention to the previous outbreaks like bird flu,, swine flu, SARS I, Nipah, Ebola, camel flu, etc. All of which failed to take off much in India.
Even if new patients data can be hidden by state governments, over ell deaths can’t be hidden
It is a fact that our burial grounds and cemetries are not overloaded
No extra deaths have been reported from these places and this can’t be hidden by any govt
The reduction in noncovid deaths also may be a contribting factor. Less accidents, less alcohol related deaths, less homicides
Etc
It’s time for cautious optimism
Not pessimist approach
Just as every thing in life is not black and white
People or govts aren’t all right or left oriented
Left oriented govt in Kerala did well not because of its ideology but because of the people on the ground who are educated, disciplined and listening to the govt apparatus, not essentially Their CM
WB is doing not very well despite having no ideology govt
Similarly right ideology govt in MP is unable to cope up as well as it’s counterpart in karnataka or Goa
But doomsayers and people which seem to long for the old lost state of “left or centre left parties governance ” Will be disappointed with overall resilience of this country
The seed if this feeling lies in discreet covert feeling of amusememnt about why the country isn’t crumbling in toto and why the state govts aren’t caught pants down in their intention and resolve to fight unitedly with the center and then they can say”” Ser we told you
It was 45% voters mistake if not bringing back the old cooterie state to power
I am very sorry to say that our writers are always try to highlight the negative side and not the positive side. They try to find faults, loopholes to satisfy themselves and their masters. It has become the tradition of our writers to write the things as their masters wishes. Tragedy of India.
Government data cannot be used in any reliable way to build any models. Not in normal times (take under weight kids or malnutrition figures from central India) and in times of a crisis with huge political ramifications, quite certainly not. Left, right and the middle path (like this article) will all add up to zero predictability due to the nature of data, and to some extent, the simplistic models deployed.
This article shows that it is very easy to get lost in statistics. As a lay person I consider thatthe pandemic is under control in India for the simple reason that for a populous country with 136 crore people,total positives is well below Rs.30K and dealths still below 800. That is vastly superior position compared to European countries and USA who fell for WHO’s “test, test, test” mantra and are still losing several hundred lives every day. Give it a thought and put politcs aside for a while.
For a country of our size actions taken have been quick and effective. It is not fair to degrade the efforts put in just because you don’t like the PM.
Website figures updated quite often and the figures around 5 to 10% higher side. It shows government not transparent. Especially they don’t analyse the PM state figures in open. Gujarat recovery /death figures are really astonishing.
PM post not permanent for anybody. His performance judged by people in different aspects. Truth always bitter.
By harping on left and right, perhaps the Print is overlooking its own tendency of looking at every issue as bipolar. By doing so, it perhaps wants to establish itself as more objective amongst all. There is no such thing as objectivity anymore and all the pillars it reclined on have fallen to dust. Polarities if they do exist are not left or right but whether we must relax or err on the side of caution. When facing a pandemic there is a need to be ready for the worst. That alone can reassure people under a lockdown.
Obviously any government would like not to set off alarm bells and thus moderate the actual numbers. Similarly, any opposition will like to contest ans ask for proof. In the present road-roller majority of the ruling party, they will never care for the questions of the opposition. Hence as far as are concerned, better to read these and forget. No point in putting our mind. The most important and oldest question is yet to be answered by the rulers on “Why and who delayed the lock-down till March-24th for those crucial 46 days (allowing 6 days for people to go back to their natives and families, after W HO warned of the pandemic question on January-30th. Ultimately this is the root cause and as a country we have to blame only ourselves and curse our fate
Left , Congress and the media mostly mouthpieces in English want desperately India to fail in the fight against Covid 19; more Indians die better it is for them. They see no other way of them coming back to power. So what if millions of Indians were to die! This gang is led by vociferous Siddharth Varadarajan, N. Ram, Shekar Gupta, Sardesai…..they think an article in NyT will topple the government and Modi will be swept away by their might pen. What a bunch of cynical fools!
According to the international expert opinion as well as WHO, India has managed the crises very well, by preventing the spread of the infection. Nowhere was doubt expressed of false or suppressed figures coming from India, unlike China. pessimists take a hike, as your opinion is always biased against the present government. Rukmini should check her facts before claiming . The use of hydroxychloroquine was recommended by ICMR with many conditions.
Isn’t it funny . First you divide them into the right and the left. Then you expect them to think identically. The old clever trick of Hindu haters. who have reduced secular to mean being pro-Muslim.
Common sense tells us that number of deaths so far are not at all alarming and hence, irrespective of number of infected persons, this is a reassuring position. Rest of discussion is all about measurement and statistical analysis and is open to different interpretations. Some well established facts are – 1- Lock down has slowed the spread of infection definitely though that it self is not the cure of the virus at present. 2- preventive measures like wearing mask, distancing, etc help a lot 3- older people and people with co-morbidity are at much higher of death 4- it is difficult to enforce preventive measures particularly in a crowded place and hence, risk of spreading the infection after lock down is high 5- we are now well prepared to treat people and our indigenous capacity for manufacturing test kits, ventilators, PPEs etc is quite up to the mark.
With this background, the rest of the article is a good read to understand politics behind corona!
For an article written on 25 April you have used test data as on 7 April. Is there some scientific reason or were those the worst possible numbers you could find ? Please use latest data yours is 3 weeks old !!! and you guys are a digital only media house.
As of today the data tells a different story
US: Tests: 5,037,473 Confirmed cases: 925758
Japan: Tests: 141,600 Confirmed Cases: 12,829
India: Tests: 579,957 Confirmed Cases: 24,530
looks collisions of figures of illusions . one side appears to paid by pharma lobby eyeing financial windfalls from testing , other want GHAR bandi to ease to start business
You see, immunity is a function of exposure. Exposure both to pathogens and a reasonably unhygienic environment. The infectious disease especially of the respiratory system and lungs also have a lot to do with cold climate and lack of sunshine, a big role also being played by vitamin D one gets from sun exposure which poor and middle class in India have in plenty. So, conditions in India are not conducive to widespread respiratory disease expansion in India.
So the lockdown decision as hasty as it was has been a faulty decision destroying our economy in the process without any disease containment benefits. To embellish my viewpoint, I will like to draw attention to the previous outbreaks like bird flu,, swine flu, SARS I, Nipah, Ebola, camel flu, etc. All of which failed to take off much in India.
Even if new patients data can be hidden by state governments, over ell deaths can’t be hidden
It is a fact that our burial grounds and cemetries are not overloaded
No extra deaths have been reported from these places and this can’t be hidden by any govt
The reduction in noncovid deaths also may be a contribting factor. Less accidents, less alcohol related deaths, less homicides
Etc
It’s time for cautious optimism
Not pessimist approach
Just as every thing in life is not black and white
People or govts aren’t all right or left oriented
Left oriented govt in Kerala did well not because of its ideology but because of the people on the ground who are educated, disciplined and listening to the govt apparatus, not essentially Their CM
WB is doing not very well despite having no ideology govt
Similarly right ideology govt in MP is unable to cope up as well as it’s counterpart in karnataka or Goa
But doomsayers and people which seem to long for the old lost state of “left or centre left parties governance ” Will be disappointed with overall resilience of this country
The seed if this feeling lies in discreet covert feeling of amusememnt about why the country isn’t crumbling in toto and why the state govts aren’t caught pants down in their intention and resolve to fight unitedly with the center and then they can say”” Ser we told you
It was 45% voters mistake if not bringing back the old cooterie state to power
I am very sorry to say that our writers are always try to highlight the negative side and not the positive side. They try to find faults, loopholes to satisfy themselves and their masters. It has become the tradition of our writers to write the things as their masters wishes. Tragedy of India.
Government data cannot be used in any reliable way to build any models. Not in normal times (take under weight kids or malnutrition figures from central India) and in times of a crisis with huge political ramifications, quite certainly not. Left, right and the middle path (like this article) will all add up to zero predictability due to the nature of data, and to some extent, the simplistic models deployed.
The alternate day rise in numbers is either two different starins replicating at different rates or a bit statistical wizardry in reporting tests.
This article shows that it is very easy to get lost in statistics. As a lay person I consider thatthe pandemic is under control in India for the simple reason that for a populous country with 136 crore people,total positives is well below Rs.30K and dealths still below 800. That is vastly superior position compared to European countries and USA who fell for WHO’s “test, test, test” mantra and are still losing several hundred lives every day. Give it a thought and put politcs aside for a while.
For a country of our size actions taken have been quick and effective. It is not fair to degrade the efforts put in just because you don’t like the PM.
Website figures updated quite often and the figures around 5 to 10% higher side. It shows government not transparent. Especially they don’t analyse the PM state figures in open. Gujarat recovery /death figures are really astonishing.
PM post not permanent for anybody. His performance judged by people in different aspects. Truth always bitter.
By harping on left and right, perhaps the Print is overlooking its own tendency of looking at every issue as bipolar. By doing so, it perhaps wants to establish itself as more objective amongst all. There is no such thing as objectivity anymore and all the pillars it reclined on have fallen to dust. Polarities if they do exist are not left or right but whether we must relax or err on the side of caution. When facing a pandemic there is a need to be ready for the worst. That alone can reassure people under a lockdown.
Obviously any government would like not to set off alarm bells and thus moderate the actual numbers. Similarly, any opposition will like to contest ans ask for proof. In the present road-roller majority of the ruling party, they will never care for the questions of the opposition. Hence as far as are concerned, better to read these and forget. No point in putting our mind. The most important and oldest question is yet to be answered by the rulers on “Why and who delayed the lock-down till March-24th for those crucial 46 days (allowing 6 days for people to go back to their natives and families, after W HO warned of the pandemic question on January-30th. Ultimately this is the root cause and as a country we have to blame only ourselves and curse our fate
Left , Congress and the media mostly mouthpieces in English want desperately India to fail in the fight against Covid 19; more Indians die better it is for them. They see no other way of them coming back to power. So what if millions of Indians were to die! This gang is led by vociferous Siddharth Varadarajan, N. Ram, Shekar Gupta, Sardesai…..they think an article in NyT will topple the government and Modi will be swept away by their might pen. What a bunch of cynical fools!
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According to the international expert opinion as well as WHO, India has managed the crises very well, by preventing the spread of the infection. Nowhere was doubt expressed of false or suppressed figures coming from India, unlike China. pessimists take a hike, as your opinion is always biased against the present government. Rukmini should check her facts before claiming . The use of hydroxychloroquine was recommended by ICMR with many conditions.
Is West Bengal a Left or Right state? Please answer that.
Isn’t it funny . First you divide them into the right and the left. Then you expect them to think identically. The old clever trick of Hindu haters. who have reduced secular to mean being pro-Muslim.
Common sense tells us that number of deaths so far are not at all alarming and hence, irrespective of number of infected persons, this is a reassuring position. Rest of discussion is all about measurement and statistical analysis and is open to different interpretations. Some well established facts are – 1- Lock down has slowed the spread of infection definitely though that it self is not the cure of the virus at present. 2- preventive measures like wearing mask, distancing, etc help a lot 3- older people and people with co-morbidity are at much higher of death 4- it is difficult to enforce preventive measures particularly in a crowded place and hence, risk of spreading the infection after lock down is high 5- we are now well prepared to treat people and our indigenous capacity for manufacturing test kits, ventilators, PPEs etc is quite up to the mark.
With this background, the rest of the article is a good read to understand politics behind corona!
For an article written on 25 April you have used test data as on 7 April. Is there some scientific reason or were those the worst possible numbers you could find ? Please use latest data yours is 3 weeks old !!! and you guys are a digital only media house.
As of today the data tells a different story
US: Tests: 5,037,473 Confirmed cases: 925758
Japan: Tests: 141,600 Confirmed Cases: 12,829
India: Tests: 579,957 Confirmed Cases: 24,530