Topic: caste system

Kangana Ranaut was born in an Indian upper class family and brought up with all comforts. It is fact that she never come across the real castiest society except metro based second and subsequent generation scheduled caste families. In addition, she might have come across some drawing room discussions on casteless society and came to the conclusion of so-called castless modern society. But she doesn’t know anything about feudal rural India, whose roots are based on casteism through the ages.
Before, we talk about caste, let’s have a look at untouchablity.
There are different forms of discrimination in different societies across the world. For instance, slavery in the west, more particularly in US.
But untouchablity existed nowhere in the world except
India.
An untouchable was never allowed to live in the main stream society. They were forced to reside outside the village .
Even after the independence, the untouchables/Dalit students were never allowed to sit in the classroom and specific place was earmarked to them near entrance of the class room in primary sections and a separate bench on the backend of class room. They were Otherwise singledout, physically, mentally, humiliated in all walks of life and deprived off all the social comforts.
She also uttered about the competence of reservation candidates in higher echelons of administration.
Here I wanted to make it very clear on this. Competence is neither inherent character of any class or community. Competence depends on the understanding of the facts and ground realities.
A person good at studies may not be a best administrator, which was proved number of times in the past and there is no record of incompetence of any officers hailed from reservations. Instead there are officers with great track record, when compared to their counterparts.
It is very pertinent to mention that the threshold level of marks/ or grades stipulated for promotion to next higher class is same for everyone and no concessions were given to anyone. Then there is no point in saying anything under performance and higher performance. Because the level of support and training is different for an upper class and a dalit and they are not equally placed.
I can confidently say that there good number of people in every field, who are continuing with the system with the name of #Caste tag and with support of Godfathers.
But the officers from reservations don’t have neither of the them.
There is no field in India,which is free from caste discrimination including government offices. And I don’t deny the contribution of legendary personalities like BD Sharma IAS, SR Shankaran IAS and PS Krishnan IAS, who contributed much for uplifting downtrodden
Therefore the statement of Miss Ranaut is not fact based.

A question should be asked as to why other communities do not support the Dalit movement or for that matter, any movement by any ‘other’ community. Why do so many ‘whites’ support the ‘black lives matter’ movement? The reason why the Dalit’s or so called backward castes have not been able to achieve the support of the ‘other’ communities over the last 70+ years is that most of their struggle has not been for equality. It has been mostly focused on reservation and more specifically reservation in the name of caste. The demand has been to be identified with their caste and to claim benefits associated with the caste. This persistently reiterates disability to compete, to challenge, to be considered at par with the so called ‘upper caste’. This creates a divide of ‘us’ versus ‘them’. It can never promote a casteless society. If the same amount of struggle had been focused to draw the attention of the larger public on specific instances of atrocities eg. Social boycotts of Dalits like not giving access to community water or roads in specific areas, physical torture or intimidation or police brutality (as has been done in the black lives matter movement) the whole country would have stood beside the affected Dalit population. If the community could have acknowledged their backwardness, but at the same time acknowledged that certain people in other communities may also face handicaps, then the entire structure of reservation can be modified towards addressing each socio economic handicap eg. by giving additional points based on underprivileged education, location such as rural, tribal etc, family background, parents education, financial aid etc and after giving such points have all students compete at par with enhanced marks based on individual handicap. This could have ensured that the truly underprivileged get benefits while at the same time remove reference to particular castes i.e. continuing to acknowledge the handicap suffered by the individual. This would force the ‘others’ to acknowledge the ‘merit’ of the individual. Unfortunately today, even the competent among the ‘reserved’ class struggle to prove their merit as it is assumed that they reached their position only because of reservation and therefore, they must not be as competent as the’upper caste’. Further, those among the community who have achieved a certain level of success should publicly declare themselves as equal as forego the rights to reservation for themselves and their future generations. This will encourage the entire country to stand with the community. It is the educated among the community who must take this step forward for change. Equality and respect should be asserted by oneself and not demanded from others.

Yes, because she challenged the reservation system of actors relative only rule in bollywood. Anyone want talk about merit, they are branded as upper caste. It is just mindset of people like this author that make these people poor. Not the caste.

Any time someone dares to talk Merit and income level to be the basis of reservation, if at all, these so called brokers jump into maligning and painting these brave voices as castiest.

There is a small anomaly in Dilip Mandal’s article. He mentions that Kangana Ranaut, Amitabh Bachchan, and Shashi Tharoor are all upper caste. I would like to point out that Shashi Tharoor belongs to the Nair community which makes him a Shudra.

In America they had slavery that was recognised by the Democratic elected govt and slavery was removed 100 years after formation of United States in fact the blacks got right to vote after 1948 but still in us the y don’t have 85 percent reservation as in India . Other fact is that in India brahmins never ruled even when India got it freedom most of princely stats we’re ruled by king from the classes that have reservations today .or by muslims

Lol… With such kind of articles I don’t think people would even give you a chavanni!

Lol, who is debating on CAST? A Mandal, hardcore castist member of a hate mongering CULT created by vermins like EVR and Ambedkar, who again were specially groomed by Rothschild’s ‘Divide and Rule’ agenda.

Varna system does exist in this country. Although in pre vedic period it was intercovertable. Over period of time it got fixed. Dynasty politics. And when a system get into mediocre thinkers it gets adultrated. But the truth is neither govt promotes it, neither buddha promoted it, neither sai baba promoted, neither adi shankara promoted it, neither nanak promoted it poeple were holding on to it. Neither anybody killed buddha or basavanna or Kabir for speaking against. Unlike other country if anyone speaks against they will issue killing. Neither our scriptures speak about it orbpromote discrimination. Yes definitely one person king akbar did not allow his son to marry anarkali based on discrimination. Probably he promoted it. In India amrapali heard of, disciple of buddha. Tathagat.

It’s complicated. Some dishonesty is on both sides, but more on the so called upper-caste side. Yes, there is exploitation of the reservation system by most well off “Dalit” families, no doubt, but majority of Dalit families are still struggling to find respect and dignity.
India is a filthy place, definitely the filthiest G20 country, only because most, if not all, “upper caste” Indians believe that cleanliness is NOT their responsibility. They don’t even want to clean their own house and take out their own garbage. WHY? Because someone from the lower caste will come and do it. Caste system is the most evil thing ever designed by any human society, and the results are right in front of you.