A corrosive strain of American Left-wing identity politics has taken root among the progressive sections of the young, urban elite in India. But it won’t defeat RSS.
Family members of those arrested for Friday’s anti-citizenship law violence in Bijnor allege that police barged into their homes, thrashed women with sticks.
President Kovind is slated to attend the university's convocation ceremony Monday. Students said the boycott is to protest the 'state repression' against students' protests.
Facing massive backlash in India & abroad, Modi says his govt doesn’t do politics of discrimination, tells protesters to burn his effigy but not public property.
The Rutgers professor’s tweet kicked up a storm, with some questioning the veracity of her claims, and others putting up press articles ‘corroborating’ her claims.
Sadaf Jafar was the only woman out of 150 persons arrested for the 19 December violence in Lucknow. Her sister has alleged she was beaten up mercilessly.
For the last 11 years, Nehru has been constantly blocking my efforts and causing the fiascos that are my many yojanas and abhiyans. He is the reason most of my initiatives turn into disasters.
India’s industrial output growth saw a 10-month low in June, with Index of Industrial Production (IIP) growing by mere 1.5% as against 1.9% in May 2025.
Standing up to America is usually not a personal risk for a leader in India. Any suggestions of foreign pressure unites India behind who they see as leading them in that fight.
Why do you promote those who pen down such bombast? They are concealing the mendacity of their ideas with obscure low grade prose, only to impress the semi lettered readers with high sounding phrases that convey so little of the reality.
I identify as liberal and rationalist. I think some people (liberals) question religion but only majority Hinduism in India and Christianity in West. But they won’t question practices of Islam. This is true even Richard Dawkins said the same thing. I am Hindu and don’t have any problem questioning some aspects of faith or culture . Everyone has to move in right direction in modern way and be rational and develop critical thinking.
I think writer is objective and maybe correct . Here in comments some people dismisses, although he said some view are problematic and just said how to deal with them.
In Twitter some people cancel the print “can’t expect better from them” . Even though The print is liberal and progressive.
The right and BJP people also has cancel culture. They say ThePrint is congressi and propaganda … And so on
Qz.com-india 4th largest religious violent place on earth,is Hinduism a violent faith-vedkabhedwordpress.com.hinduism and terror by Paul marston-hudson.org.hmm followers of this cults are spewing venom.
I am a recovering liberal, an academic, in the US, of Indian origin. I read with amusement some of your statements. In regards to identity politics in the US, many white liberal Americans (and right leaning suburbanites) suffer from guilt because of what has been done to non-white populations, specifically African-Americans. We HIndus will never feel this guilt, which is a necessary component of modern “liberalism”. It is the Muslims who have invaded the country, looted it , raped Hindu women and dare to attempt to wipe out our culture and religion from our homeland. It is the Muslims, who have adopted foreign cultural norms attached to their foreign religions, who now have a farcical hope of changing the majority. In other words, the majority Hindus feel they have been wronged by the very people claiming victim hood. The essential ingredient of guilt is missing. There is a saying, you must have clean hands when you claim to fight for the “truth.” Muslims do not. The case is lost until the reform their own religion. Start by apologizing for their crimes. For many, CAA is the absolute right thing to do and it makes perfect sense to not increase the numbers of those who have invaded the land with no respect or love for it. You can hear the truth or you can argue against it. This is, in fact, how most Hindus and Hindu Indians in the US feel.
trite ? this country has been under islamic persecution for 1000 years under which immense damage was done to our culture, temples desecrated and hindus suffered under genocidal maniacs like aurangzebs and khiljis. the worst impact of islamic ideology was partition of india , for which hindus are still suffering from terrorism . hindus were driven out of kashmir, and you call this persecution complex ? what makes you so sure india would not be partitioned or suffer seperatist movements by muslims again once they achieve majority in some other part of india ?
CAA or NPR are no issues at all. The two are being used by unscrupulous elements with an illusory view of furthering their prospects. Indian muslims are in no way discriminated by the two. They are being mislead through disinformation. By anti Modi forces. In this process, 27 people have died. The mischief mongers are responsible for this, not the government. Freedom of expression does not mean a licence to make irresponsible statements.
The comment that CAA & NPR is not any problem is diverting the main agenda . U can’t see it bcz u do not want others to know it.
Your hatred for Modi is such that you cannot see anything logical
Even kashmir muslim says kashmir pandit are misleading by RSS. Which side is true.
Against a systematic reduction of the minorities’ leadership in the anti-NRC-CAA movement
In the fight against the NRC-CAA, it is of course well intentioned to assert that a strong alliance among various groups such as upper-caste educated Hindus, elite liberals, women, ethnic communities, etc., needs to be forged. However, to assert, as this recent article does, that who all take up the mantle of change in leading the movement is irrelevant, is to blatantly forget that this fight is about defending the rights of the minorities.
The logic in sidestepping the Muslim, Dalit and minorities’ leadership in what is the greatest challenge to the ruling party thus far, and in its place a desire for a generic representation to the movement, is simply a manifestation of the majoritarian intellect. It negates a reflection of discrimination that exists in India precisely along caste and religious lines. The force of the movement is eroded in pushing these arguments that reductively secularize and produce impotent abstractions and ultimately reduce this hard-fought battle to just another movement. In fact, if there has ever been a greater need to recognize why the minority leaders must helm the movement, it is now. Needless to mention, everyone who is against the corruption of the constitution must jointly act.
The anti NRC-CAA movement has not come to the point of deciding on any individual(s) to carry its force forward. The storm has been gathering for a while now. With it, the need for a leadership to take the movement forward has been growing. If the great majority cannot recognize why the people of minority must be allowed to take the lead, we are once again back to the question – can the Subaltern Speak? The word ‘allowed’ in this context is hardly misplaced. There is an active machinery that decides who gets to speak out loud, that fiddles with the reach of minority leaders. In other words, the co-option of minority movements is constantly at work. For instance, one of the most popular minority movements fighting against racist violence and police brutality towards black people, the Black Lives Matter (BLM) activism was not immune from it. No sooner did the movement gather momentum that an All Lives Matter sprung out of thin air, which really was a euphemism to a majority White privilege. Soon enough, corporations saw the perfect opportunity to capitalize on the sociality of the movement (Pepsi even released an advertisement on the BLM theme). The particularity, immediacy and relevance of BLM for black people was staked in fashionably neutralizing the suffering by suppressing their voices and their leadership.
There is strong opposition from the majority in placing belief in the agency, leadership and consciousness of minorities to lead the nation-wide protest. It is of course an intellectual challenge, but one that cannot be simply written off as a liberal-left agenda or casually bucketed under identity politics. The appeal to recognize the need for minority leadership is a humanistic approach above all. Further, it is not difficult to see that a Muslim leader may better speak on behalf of the Dalit people, and vice-versa, than a Hindu upper caste person speaking for the two minority groups. It is in such a context that the ‘lived experience’ of who speaks and addresses the people of the country, especially its minorities, matters. In a country where minorities have been perennially oppressed, it in fact behooves the privileged to allow for the voices of the minority to express, clarify and lead.
Is it not a good thing then that the young, urban progressives seek the leadership of their counterparts from minority communities? It signals that a positive change may be on its way when intellect in the public sphere does not foremost become a reason to compete as if they were limited seats in the IITs. The medium of the protest is proof that people willingly engage with those who are opposed ideologically to the movement, or those who are misinformed, or even those who ardently believe in the BJP leadership. This engagement has been in the form of songs, poetry, slogans, posters, among others, of Ambedkar as well as Gandhi. However, seeking minority leadership ought not be confused with failing to appease the pro-BJP supporters. Arguing so is tantamount to saying that somehow an upper caste Hindu elite may be able to appease them better than a minority leader. Such an argument falls to the trappings of identity politics it seeks to intervene against in the first place.
Much of the police violence has been directed against the Muslim protestors. We cannot brush it away as some coincidence. Many of the 23 people (per the latest figures as of 23 December 2019) who were killed in the police backlash are Muslims. Comments insinuating hatred against the Muslims were made by the Prime Minister Narendra Modi on the basis of their appearance. Homes and businesses in Muslim majority areas such as in UP’s Muzaffarnagar were vandalized by cops. A Muslim student at Jamia University expressed much apprehension about her future owing to her religion which the state has discriminated against in enacting the CAA. She said that Muslims are becoming “second-class citizens who must learn to live in fear”. A Muslim social activist and a single mother Sadar Jafar was arrested in Lucknow as she filmed police violence and was later beaten up in prison. This is the kind of anxiety the marginalized and the discriminated have been experiencing in the aftermath of CAA. The Dalits too have been meted out with violence. The Dalit leader Chandrashekar Azad, for instance, was arrested a few days after evading detention outside Jama Masjid in Delhi. Just before the arrest when a journalist asked him if Dalits and Muslims are a united front on this issue, he showed immense understanding as he said “Not just Dalits and Muslims – the entire country is together”.
Such a unifying language of leadership is needed to sustain the movement. Returning to the question on subalterns considered earlier, one must instead think of the question – can the minority voices ‘be heard’? This is not a question of “purity” of who leads the movement, as some have deemed, but of the majority’s own recognition of the need to fight, driven by the conviction of leaders from the minority, i.e., to put faith, much needed in these times, in their intellect and dynamism to carry forward the movement.
RSS is not bothered about winning, not are they any single organization, it is just a front to put forth opinions arising from discussions between a wide range of people and organizations. They are relevant because they change according to times and are not dogmatic.
So called left liberals on the other hand are having a difficult time with their dead wood ideology which no longer sells and the people who use it are unable to change or understand the times and people. For eg they are in cahoots with Islamists who preach : “But when these months, prohibited (for fighting), are over, slay the idolaters wheresoever you find them, and take them captive or besiege them, and lie in wait for them at every likely place. But if they repent and fulfil their devotional obligations and pay the zakat, then let them go their way, for God is forgiving and kind.”
What is all this crap being written. You want to establish Muslim dictator ship in India and marginalize all Hindu. Plus you are bent on exploiting upper caste / lower caste divide for furthering your cause .
While I agree with some of your points I fail to see a summary of what you intend to convey here. But prior to that I would like to point out that you are connecting far too many dots a little too early; I think there is much wait required,. especially if you are writing this to align with the ongoing protests against CAB/NRC.
On the other hand, about forging alliances, I think you presume too early. It is not like people aren’t trying everything thing they can in our country. I know this for a fact. We are not as echo-chambered as in the West. Look at the recent protests as a hand-shake moment.
There is also the Indian culture. When has an Indian parent come back and said “Hey I am sorry, I understand your point of view now” to their children. Usually they all just “move on”. 🙂 I see the momentum as that breakaway moment. But yes it needs more work. Lost of it. That I get.
Lol.. why blame hindutva. They are just a reaction to Muslim brother hood. Hindutva is nowhere seen raping , force converting , promoting sex slave , jihad .. why does orange strick terror in mind of green. Think again and decided why it’s only muslim.who wants to have separate nation Nd sharia without any logic and sense
Your analysis is straight out of Jordan Peterson video, and you pass it on as some woke idea. You are just proving the point of the writer that left just go after others and not do compromise and listen to any dissent almost as bad as BJP.
IQ is not a standard for development, only Americans use it and that based on way it is administered and so on. In last fifty years India was ruled by a party solely surviving on identity politics and not interested in proper education and development. They left a gap which BJP filled and we see the results. If you want people to support you go after the basic issues. Jobs law and order which affect everyone only that can defeat BJP, not religious or caste based issues, as writer said RSS is way more powerful and influential.
Unfortunately you are yet another one who has problems of comprehension.
Here is the last para from Mirza’s post:
“The government must concentrate on healthcare and education first, this Hindu Muslim problem is nothing compared to the scale of the the first two.”
Isn’t he saying the same thing as you? Why do you BJP supporters go straightaway on the attack before even reading fully what someone has written?
If the BJP had not been so communal, ignorant and dishonest, then perhaps it would have attracted more people with a scientific temper, who would have helped it to gain credibility. But communal hatred for the other is the oxygen that keeps it going and attracts votes.
IQ testing is frowned on as not politically correct, with connotations of eugenics and race Nevertheless it’s science and is a useful and proved tool in HR.
India really needs a dictator of calibre Like the former Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore, even the modern Chinese communist party post Deng does a good job in governance, it promotes generally on merit Thats how Xi Jinping rose through the ranks.
The IAS cadre and IPS needs to be dismantled and local democracy needs to be empowered, the IAS has suffocated development, its an archaic colonial setup. People need to be held accountable and promoting must be on merit and by results.
As for the plight of Muslims, I am not bothered because the poor Hindu have the same problems. Remember the caste system is alive and kicking and nothing can be more oppressive than caste.
Take care of caste make India a more egalitarian society than communalism will disappear.
The Hindu rabid hatred for the Muslim is there in the upper castes only,.
Communalism comes from the Brahmin who imposes the tyranny of caste, he wishes islam would come under the umbrella of the myriad of Hindu beliefs and that all Muslims fetter themselves into the caste system.
You must have meant the Brahmins from RSS who are our President and Priminister!
Stop your harted against brahmin, they are many viewspoint against muslim and maulvi who started terror against minorities, hindus,women or homosexual. We are not against all muslim. Listen if you read kancha illaah, somebody will listen tasleema nasreen. So stop your hinduphobia. I am obc, brahmin is not my enemy, I don’t want be your enemy.
ASIM ALI – AN ACADEMIC IN HIS OWN ECHO CHAMBER. TRYING TO FIT THE POLITICS OF GB AND USA INTO THE HAPPENINGS IN INDIA.
You have it totally wrong take it from me, a ‘proletariat’, a Muslim from a poor background, educated in a madrasa in a small village.
ASIM Ali it’s like this…
Firstly a third of all children have stunted growth, more than half our women are anaemic, this malnutrition has resulted in an average IQ amongst the lowest in the world of 82 in India,
Now you cannot do much with IQ of 82 and lower, the US army does not recruit below 82 IQ, they are experts, as they have over a hundred years trained millions of men.
Below IQ 82 the ability of self learning is not possible. These people are counter productive in the workplace, they have to be constantly supervised and productivity is negative.
These people are fodder for the politicians, they are easily manipulated, democracy does not work with people of IQ 82 and below.
You academics and lefties sitting in your Ivory towers are part of the chattering classes.
There has to be an alliance between the Muslim of the Brahmin, the well fed Brahmins have ruled the roost in India, it’s not going to change. It was so even under the Mughals in our village economies.
Because of our IQ problem governance is done under the pretence of democracy…it’s Brahmins all the way down from the PMs office to the district level.
China had an educated healthy population and it was able to take advantage of Dengs reforms, the average IQ there because of a healthy population is around 100.
The government must concentrate on healthcare and education first, this Hindu Muslim problem is nothing compared to the scale of the the first two
Your analysis is spot-on. But substitute Brahmuns with Upper-caste Hindus.
Moreover, think of what the pollution is doing to the already low average IQ of 82. For a country that knows the value of breathing (Pranayama), it should be obvious that if oxygen can help the brain, lack of oxygen can damage it.
Please send me any proof for your comment on IQ
IQ and Global Inequality
By Richard Lynn, Tatu Vanhane, Washington Summit Publishers, 200.
About IQ and poverty in India
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Also Google Jordon Peterson IQ and US army
Majority brahmins are poor, stop your propaganda against brahmin
Are they? I don’t think so. Atleast the ones that I’ve met, always had more assets than I could muster in my entire life doing surgeries.
The proof is your question itself. This is a well known fact, and you couldn’t even Google it? Hey Ram!
I am probably one of those having that IQ Of 82 because i could not make any head and tail of it. Are you suggesting high IQ muslims should make an alliance with high IQ hindus( brahmins) and install a dictator to take care of education , healthcare etc etc?
He means it’s no use, with an IQ of 82 most people are destined forever to be the underdog.
Brahmins with higher nutrition and IQ regardless from the left or the right will always come up on top like they have for thousands of years
Mughuls were Muslims but the Brahmins did not fight them, joined with them and still ruled.
If tomorrow a Dalit Is on the throne the Brahmin will be there whispering in his ear.
Unless there is good healthcare for all and education, this inequality will continue
Zafar,
You scored a Self goal hahahaha… Anyone dares speak up against ‘puritanical activist’ mindset of liberals, and how hard that voice is curbed. You proved that with your comment. This is the live evidence of what Asim Ali wrote. Thanks for proving !
The author wants the prosecutors of the persecuted to be offered asylum too. Madness. The protests are fast losing momentum. When you peel all the fancy pansy logic here you realize that majority of the Indians cannot be guilt-tripped into supporting bigotry against the minorities in the region. This too shall pass.
Why do you promote those who pen down such bombast? They are concealing the mendacity of their ideas with obscure low grade prose, only to impress the semi lettered readers with high sounding phrases that convey so little of the reality.
I identify as liberal and rationalist. I think some people (liberals) question religion but only majority Hinduism in India and Christianity in West. But they won’t question practices of Islam. This is true even Richard Dawkins said the same thing. I am Hindu and don’t have any problem questioning some aspects of faith or culture . Everyone has to move in right direction in modern way and be rational and develop critical thinking.
I think writer is objective and maybe correct . Here in comments some people dismisses, although he said some view are problematic and just said how to deal with them.
In Twitter some people cancel the print “can’t expect better from them” . Even though The print is liberal and progressive.
The right and BJP people also has cancel culture. They say ThePrint is congressi and propaganda … And so on
Qz.com-india 4th largest religious violent place on earth,is Hinduism a violent faith-vedkabhedwordpress.com.hinduism and terror by Paul marston-hudson.org.hmm followers of this cults are spewing venom.
I am a recovering liberal, an academic, in the US, of Indian origin. I read with amusement some of your statements. In regards to identity politics in the US, many white liberal Americans (and right leaning suburbanites) suffer from guilt because of what has been done to non-white populations, specifically African-Americans. We HIndus will never feel this guilt, which is a necessary component of modern “liberalism”. It is the Muslims who have invaded the country, looted it , raped Hindu women and dare to attempt to wipe out our culture and religion from our homeland. It is the Muslims, who have adopted foreign cultural norms attached to their foreign religions, who now have a farcical hope of changing the majority. In other words, the majority Hindus feel they have been wronged by the very people claiming victim hood. The essential ingredient of guilt is missing. There is a saying, you must have clean hands when you claim to fight for the “truth.” Muslims do not. The case is lost until the reform their own religion. Start by apologizing for their crimes. For many, CAA is the absolute right thing to do and it makes perfect sense to not increase the numbers of those who have invaded the land with no respect or love for it. You can hear the truth or you can argue against it. This is, in fact, how most Hindus and Hindu Indians in the US feel.
Same old trite majority persecution complex.
trite ? this country has been under islamic persecution for 1000 years under which immense damage was done to our culture, temples desecrated and hindus suffered under genocidal maniacs like aurangzebs and khiljis. the worst impact of islamic ideology was partition of india , for which hindus are still suffering from terrorism . hindus were driven out of kashmir, and you call this persecution complex ? what makes you so sure india would not be partitioned or suffer seperatist movements by muslims again once they achieve majority in some other part of india ?
CAA or NPR are no issues at all. The two are being used by unscrupulous elements with an illusory view of furthering their prospects. Indian muslims are in no way discriminated by the two. They are being mislead through disinformation. By anti Modi forces. In this process, 27 people have died. The mischief mongers are responsible for this, not the government. Freedom of expression does not mean a licence to make irresponsible statements.
The comment that CAA & NPR is not any problem is diverting the main agenda . U can’t see it bcz u do not want others to know it.
Your hatred for Modi is such that you cannot see anything logical
Even kashmir muslim says kashmir pandit are misleading by RSS. Which side is true.
Against a systematic reduction of the minorities’ leadership in the anti-NRC-CAA movement
In the fight against the NRC-CAA, it is of course well intentioned to assert that a strong alliance among various groups such as upper-caste educated Hindus, elite liberals, women, ethnic communities, etc., needs to be forged. However, to assert, as this recent article does, that who all take up the mantle of change in leading the movement is irrelevant, is to blatantly forget that this fight is about defending the rights of the minorities.
The logic in sidestepping the Muslim, Dalit and minorities’ leadership in what is the greatest challenge to the ruling party thus far, and in its place a desire for a generic representation to the movement, is simply a manifestation of the majoritarian intellect. It negates a reflection of discrimination that exists in India precisely along caste and religious lines. The force of the movement is eroded in pushing these arguments that reductively secularize and produce impotent abstractions and ultimately reduce this hard-fought battle to just another movement. In fact, if there has ever been a greater need to recognize why the minority leaders must helm the movement, it is now. Needless to mention, everyone who is against the corruption of the constitution must jointly act.
The anti NRC-CAA movement has not come to the point of deciding on any individual(s) to carry its force forward. The storm has been gathering for a while now. With it, the need for a leadership to take the movement forward has been growing. If the great majority cannot recognize why the people of minority must be allowed to take the lead, we are once again back to the question – can the Subaltern Speak? The word ‘allowed’ in this context is hardly misplaced. There is an active machinery that decides who gets to speak out loud, that fiddles with the reach of minority leaders. In other words, the co-option of minority movements is constantly at work. For instance, one of the most popular minority movements fighting against racist violence and police brutality towards black people, the Black Lives Matter (BLM) activism was not immune from it. No sooner did the movement gather momentum that an All Lives Matter sprung out of thin air, which really was a euphemism to a majority White privilege. Soon enough, corporations saw the perfect opportunity to capitalize on the sociality of the movement (Pepsi even released an advertisement on the BLM theme). The particularity, immediacy and relevance of BLM for black people was staked in fashionably neutralizing the suffering by suppressing their voices and their leadership.
There is strong opposition from the majority in placing belief in the agency, leadership and consciousness of minorities to lead the nation-wide protest. It is of course an intellectual challenge, but one that cannot be simply written off as a liberal-left agenda or casually bucketed under identity politics. The appeal to recognize the need for minority leadership is a humanistic approach above all. Further, it is not difficult to see that a Muslim leader may better speak on behalf of the Dalit people, and vice-versa, than a Hindu upper caste person speaking for the two minority groups. It is in such a context that the ‘lived experience’ of who speaks and addresses the people of the country, especially its minorities, matters. In a country where minorities have been perennially oppressed, it in fact behooves the privileged to allow for the voices of the minority to express, clarify and lead.
Is it not a good thing then that the young, urban progressives seek the leadership of their counterparts from minority communities? It signals that a positive change may be on its way when intellect in the public sphere does not foremost become a reason to compete as if they were limited seats in the IITs. The medium of the protest is proof that people willingly engage with those who are opposed ideologically to the movement, or those who are misinformed, or even those who ardently believe in the BJP leadership. This engagement has been in the form of songs, poetry, slogans, posters, among others, of Ambedkar as well as Gandhi. However, seeking minority leadership ought not be confused with failing to appease the pro-BJP supporters. Arguing so is tantamount to saying that somehow an upper caste Hindu elite may be able to appease them better than a minority leader. Such an argument falls to the trappings of identity politics it seeks to intervene against in the first place.
Much of the police violence has been directed against the Muslim protestors. We cannot brush it away as some coincidence. Many of the 23 people (per the latest figures as of 23 December 2019) who were killed in the police backlash are Muslims. Comments insinuating hatred against the Muslims were made by the Prime Minister Narendra Modi on the basis of their appearance. Homes and businesses in Muslim majority areas such as in UP’s Muzaffarnagar were vandalized by cops. A Muslim student at Jamia University expressed much apprehension about her future owing to her religion which the state has discriminated against in enacting the CAA. She said that Muslims are becoming “second-class citizens who must learn to live in fear”. A Muslim social activist and a single mother Sadar Jafar was arrested in Lucknow as she filmed police violence and was later beaten up in prison. This is the kind of anxiety the marginalized and the discriminated have been experiencing in the aftermath of CAA. The Dalits too have been meted out with violence. The Dalit leader Chandrashekar Azad, for instance, was arrested a few days after evading detention outside Jama Masjid in Delhi. Just before the arrest when a journalist asked him if Dalits and Muslims are a united front on this issue, he showed immense understanding as he said “Not just Dalits and Muslims – the entire country is together”.
Such a unifying language of leadership is needed to sustain the movement. Returning to the question on subalterns considered earlier, one must instead think of the question – can the minority voices ‘be heard’? This is not a question of “purity” of who leads the movement, as some have deemed, but of the majority’s own recognition of the need to fight, driven by the conviction of leaders from the minority, i.e., to put faith, much needed in these times, in their intellect and dynamism to carry forward the movement.
Well analyzed.
RSS is not bothered about winning, not are they any single organization, it is just a front to put forth opinions arising from discussions between a wide range of people and organizations. They are relevant because they change according to times and are not dogmatic.
So called left liberals on the other hand are having a difficult time with their dead wood ideology which no longer sells and the people who use it are unable to change or understand the times and people. For eg they are in cahoots with Islamists who preach : “But when these months, prohibited (for fighting), are over, slay the idolaters wheresoever you find them, and take them captive or besiege them, and lie in wait for them at every likely place. But if they repent and fulfil their devotional obligations and pay the zakat, then let them go their way, for God is forgiving and kind.”
What is all this crap being written. You want to establish Muslim dictator ship in India and marginalize all Hindu. Plus you are bent on exploiting upper caste / lower caste divide for furthering your cause .
Dear Asim Ali,
While I agree with some of your points I fail to see a summary of what you intend to convey here. But prior to that I would like to point out that you are connecting far too many dots a little too early; I think there is much wait required,. especially if you are writing this to align with the ongoing protests against CAB/NRC.
On the other hand, about forging alliances, I think you presume too early. It is not like people aren’t trying everything thing they can in our country. I know this for a fact. We are not as echo-chambered as in the West. Look at the recent protests as a hand-shake moment.
There is also the Indian culture. When has an Indian parent come back and said “Hey I am sorry, I understand your point of view now” to their children. Usually they all just “move on”. 🙂 I see the momentum as that breakaway moment. But yes it needs more work. Lost of it. That I get.
Warmly,
Lol.. why blame hindutva. They are just a reaction to Muslim brother hood. Hindutva is nowhere seen raping , force converting , promoting sex slave , jihad .. why does orange strick terror in mind of green. Think again and decided why it’s only muslim.who wants to have separate nation Nd sharia without any logic and sense
Zafar Mohammed Mirza
Your analysis is straight out of Jordan Peterson video, and you pass it on as some woke idea. You are just proving the point of the writer that left just go after others and not do compromise and listen to any dissent almost as bad as BJP.
IQ is not a standard for development, only Americans use it and that based on way it is administered and so on. In last fifty years India was ruled by a party solely surviving on identity politics and not interested in proper education and development. They left a gap which BJP filled and we see the results. If you want people to support you go after the basic issues. Jobs law and order which affect everyone only that can defeat BJP, not religious or caste based issues, as writer said RSS is way more powerful and influential.
Unfortunately you are yet another one who has problems of comprehension.
Here is the last para from Mirza’s post:
“The government must concentrate on healthcare and education first, this Hindu Muslim problem is nothing compared to the scale of the the first two.”
Isn’t he saying the same thing as you? Why do you BJP supporters go straightaway on the attack before even reading fully what someone has written?
If the BJP had not been so communal, ignorant and dishonest, then perhaps it would have attracted more people with a scientific temper, who would have helped it to gain credibility. But communal hatred for the other is the oxygen that keeps it going and attracts votes.
IQ testing is frowned on as not politically correct, with connotations of eugenics and race Nevertheless it’s science and is a useful and proved tool in HR.
India really needs a dictator of calibre Like the former Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore, even the modern Chinese communist party post Deng does a good job in governance, it promotes generally on merit Thats how Xi Jinping rose through the ranks.
The IAS cadre and IPS needs to be dismantled and local democracy needs to be empowered, the IAS has suffocated development, its an archaic colonial setup. People need to be held accountable and promoting must be on merit and by results.
As for the plight of Muslims, I am not bothered because the poor Hindu have the same problems. Remember the caste system is alive and kicking and nothing can be more oppressive than caste.
Take care of caste make India a more egalitarian society than communalism will disappear.
The Hindu rabid hatred for the Muslim is there in the upper castes only,.
Communalism comes from the Brahmin who imposes the tyranny of caste, he wishes islam would come under the umbrella of the myriad of Hindu beliefs and that all Muslims fetter themselves into the caste system.
You must have meant the Brahmins from RSS who are our President and Priminister!
Stop your harted against brahmin, they are many viewspoint against muslim and maulvi who started terror against minorities, hindus,women or homosexual. We are not against all muslim. Listen if you read kancha illaah, somebody will listen tasleema nasreen. So stop your hinduphobia. I am obc, brahmin is not my enemy, I don’t want be your enemy.
ASIM ALI – AN ACADEMIC IN HIS OWN ECHO CHAMBER. TRYING TO FIT THE POLITICS OF GB AND USA INTO THE HAPPENINGS IN INDIA.
You have it totally wrong take it from me, a ‘proletariat’, a Muslim from a poor background, educated in a madrasa in a small village.
ASIM Ali it’s like this…
Firstly a third of all children have stunted growth, more than half our women are anaemic, this malnutrition has resulted in an average IQ amongst the lowest in the world of 82 in India,
Now you cannot do much with IQ of 82 and lower, the US army does not recruit below 82 IQ, they are experts, as they have over a hundred years trained millions of men.
Below IQ 82 the ability of self learning is not possible. These people are counter productive in the workplace, they have to be constantly supervised and productivity is negative.
These people are fodder for the politicians, they are easily manipulated, democracy does not work with people of IQ 82 and below.
You academics and lefties sitting in your Ivory towers are part of the chattering classes.
There has to be an alliance between the Muslim of the Brahmin, the well fed Brahmins have ruled the roost in India, it’s not going to change. It was so even under the Mughals in our village economies.
Because of our IQ problem governance is done under the pretence of democracy…it’s Brahmins all the way down from the PMs office to the district level.
China had an educated healthy population and it was able to take advantage of Dengs reforms, the average IQ there because of a healthy population is around 100.
The government must concentrate on healthcare and education first, this Hindu Muslim problem is nothing compared to the scale of the the first two
Your analysis is spot-on. But substitute Brahmuns with Upper-caste Hindus.
Moreover, think of what the pollution is doing to the already low average IQ of 82. For a country that knows the value of breathing (Pranayama), it should be obvious that if oxygen can help the brain, lack of oxygen can damage it.
Please send me any proof for your comment on IQ
IQ and Global Inequality
By Richard Lynn, Tatu Vanhane, Washington Summit Publishers, 200.
About IQ and poverty in India
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Also Google Jordon Peterson IQ and US army
Majority brahmins are poor, stop your propaganda against brahmin
Are they? I don’t think so. Atleast the ones that I’ve met, always had more assets than I could muster in my entire life doing surgeries.
The proof is your question itself. This is a well known fact, and you couldn’t even Google it? Hey Ram!
I am probably one of those having that IQ Of 82 because i could not make any head and tail of it. Are you suggesting high IQ muslims should make an alliance with high IQ hindus( brahmins) and install a dictator to take care of education , healthcare etc etc?
He means it’s no use, with an IQ of 82 most people are destined forever to be the underdog.
Brahmins with higher nutrition and IQ regardless from the left or the right will always come up on top like they have for thousands of years
Mughuls were Muslims but the Brahmins did not fight them, joined with them and still ruled.
If tomorrow a Dalit Is on the throne the Brahmin will be there whispering in his ear.
Unless there is good healthcare for all and education, this inequality will continue
Zafar,
You scored a Self goal hahahaha… Anyone dares speak up against ‘puritanical activist’ mindset of liberals, and how hard that voice is curbed. You proved that with your comment. This is the live evidence of what Asim Ali wrote. Thanks for proving !
The author wants the prosecutors of the persecuted to be offered asylum too. Madness. The protests are fast losing momentum. When you peel all the fancy pansy logic here you realize that majority of the Indians cannot be guilt-tripped into supporting bigotry against the minorities in the region. This too shall pass.
He did not say that, he said those views are problematic but you should not cancel or patronise them . Rather you should engage in conversation.