India’s home ministry has suspended licenses of four Christian groups under Foreign Contribution Regulation Act, or FCRA. According to a report in The Hindu, these organisations won’t be eligible for foreign funding for the next six months, post which their license will be either cancelled or reinstated based on their response. In 2017, US Christian group Compassion International was asked to stop its operations in India. Earlier this year, a Chennai-based NGO Caruna Bal Vikas was booked by the CBI. The FIR claims that the NGO was getting huge finances from abroad to convert people to Christianity. There is a long list of Christian groups that have lost their FCRA license during the NDA rule.
This tells us two things: 1) International Christian donor organisations think that by pumping money into India, they can succeed in their alleged aim of converting people to Christianity. 2) The government of India and organisations like the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and its offshoots like the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) also think that with the help of foreign money, Christian organisations can convert Hindus. And so, they spread narratives like Indians need to be saved from missionary mafia because “the evangelical army has multi-billion dollar resources.”
Both these suppositions are wrong. In India, Christianity has no future and there is no reason for the RSS or the VHP to spread false alarm or panic about proselytising capacity of Christian missionaries.
Threat to India’s integrity today is from Christian missionary organisations who use induced conversion to Christian faith to subvert the nation. Islamic terror is a more manageable threat and is mainly from within India. Amending security & foreign policy is accordingly needed.
— Subramanian Swamy (@Swamy39) January 25, 2019
Also read: Why Ambedkar chose Buddhism over Hinduism, Islam, Christianity
Missionaries’ aim
Christian missionaries coming to India and trying to convert people is a historical fact. There is no central registry that tracks foreign missionaries and evangelists, so it’s not possible to know their exact numbers. But it’s a commonly held belief that thousands of nuns and fathers arrived in India, remained unmarried, and worked to convert people. Similarly, Christian donors invest a lot of money, allegedly in the garb of social work, for their proselytisation projects. But all these are suppositions. Available data, meanwhile, gives us a clear picture.
The simple fact is that making India Christian is a failed project. The Census data shows that the Christian population in India is either static or dwindling since 1951. In the 2001 Census, Christians’ share in Indian population was 2.34 per cent; in 2011, it fell to 2.30 per cent. The decadal growth of Hindus during the same period was 16.8 per cent, higher than the increase in Christian population, which was 15.5 per cent.
If the Christian missionaries have any system of KRA, then they should be either dismissed from the job or given warnings about their bad performance, especially because the gender ratio of Christians (1,023) is far better than Hindus (939). It will not be easy for them to explain the decreasing proportion of Christians in Indian population.
For several decades, it is alleged that Christian evangelists are hyperactive in the tribal belt of central India. This is the area where many people were killed (Graham Stuart Staines was one of them) and many churches were burnt by fanatics who accused them of luring tribals to covert.
Even if one accepts the assumption that Christian missionaries in India lure people to convert them, looking at their success rate after more than three centuries of allegedly indulging in such activities should make clear.
Also read: Cultural artillery, Christianity, education: How the British & missionaries Westernised Khasis
The conversion claim
Let’s start with the Christian population in some tribal-dominated states in central India, keeping in mind that conversion does not change the legal-constitutional status of members belonging to Scheduled Tribes (STs). Muslims or Christians can still be STs, but not Scheduled Castes (SCs). Constitutional order of 1950 applies only to SCs. Hindutva forces and various social media influencers use the term crypto-Christian for converted SCs, who register themselves as Hindus to continue getting reservation benefits.
From Thomas Christians to Crypto Christians – John Dayal. Conversion at all time high!official figures of 3% too low:could be 5.8-9%,May be 71m against 30m
@NupurSharmaBJP @TimesNow Article by John Dayal! @TheJaggi https://t.co/KaedQaxshr
— Mohandas Pai (@TVMohandasPai) June 11, 2019
For almost three centuries, Christian missions are active in the state of Bengal, Kolkata was the seat of power of British colonialists until 1911, and yet there are only 5.15 lakh people in West Bengal who profess Christianity, as per 2011 Census.
People say if the nuns and fathers had decided to marry and have children, the number of Christians in West Bengal would have been higher than this.
Even in other power centres during British rule, Christian population, according to the 2011 Census, are quite meagre — Delhi (0.87 per cent), Mumbai (3.27 per cent) and Chennai (7.72 per cent). In larger states, only Kerala has more than 10 per cent Christian population.
This raises two questions. First, why has Christianity failed in India, despite Christians ruling it for nearly two centuries, lakhs of missionaries putting all their efforts, and organisations spending billions of rupees into the proselytisation project? Second, why does Christianity have no future in India? Here are five reasons that answer Christianity’s failure in the past and why it will continue to be a filature in the future too.
Also read: Why I converted to Islam and buried my Hindu identity: Dalit Camera founder
Christianity’s social failure
First, in India, Christianity has never been a liberation theology. Spending money or doing social work or helping people in need to proselytise them is in itself an immoral act and no god will perhaps approve of this act. Even the book of law agrees with me. The first anti-conversion law was enacted in Odisha and under the Act, “inducement” includes “the offer of any gift or gratification, either in cash or in kind, and shall also include the grant of any benefit, either pecuniary or otherwise.” So, seeking to convert people in need of financial help or aid is immoral but not the other way round. People can accept money or other means of help and revert or cling to the religion of their choice. This is not at all unethical.
Second, Christianity in India never played any role similar to the one Black Church played in the Civil Rights Movement or as in the case of Latin American Church and priests who became part of the anti-colonial struggle there. In its early days, Christianity was seen as the religion of the colonialists and the oppressors. It never played the role as argued by Karl Marx – “Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification….Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions….”
Third, Christianity failed to transcend the barrier of caste. Becoming Christian does not absolve an Indian from the shackles of caste. Though this is true for all religions in South Asia. Religion can be changed but caste identity remains. In that sense, becoming a Christian has never been any incentive for people of lower caste Hindus. Just like upper caste Hindus treat those ‘lower’ in the caste hierarchy, upper caste Christians have similar apathy and hatred for lower caste Christians. As the leadership of Churches in India remains in the hands of upper caste Christians, and they also claim the caste ancestry, situation for the lower caste remains the same with caste subjugation continuing for them even after conversion from Hinduism to Christianity. Arundhati Roy says that her mother was a Syrian Christian (Kerala Brahmins, who converted to Christianity) and her father was a Bengali Brahmin who took the membership of Brahmo Samaj and later converted to Christianity. According to her, this ancestry makes her casteless. This argument is entirely bogus. Even making this claim is a privilege that only a Brahmin can exercise.
Also read: Hindu society’s real enemy is a pseudo-Hindu — not those branded ‘sickulars’ or ‘libtards’
Becoming a tool for Brahmins, elites
Fourth, early Christian preachers took the wrong path in India. Upon arriving here, they first tried to convert the Brahmins. The idea was that since Brahmins are the intellectual leaders of Hindus, if they convert, others will automatically follow. This never happened. It’s a fact that in Kerala, West Bengal and also in Maharashtra, early converts to Christianity were mostly urban educated Brahmins. They were early entrants in the English medium schools mostly run by the missionaries and came in touch with the British and other Europeans. In Hinduism, the lower castes accept the leadership of Brahmins because in Hinduism, Brahmins have been ordained the higher position. But upper caste Christians don’t have this superiority sanctioned by their religion.
Fifth, English-medium Christian schools symbolise the problem Christianity in India faced. The Bible says: “It is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich person to enter into the Kingdom of God.” Serving the poor is the religious ethos of Christianity. But in India, the most important Christian institutions — the English-medium schools and colleges — hardly practised this. They largely became the hub of social and economic elites of the country. In most of these schools, located mainly in urban areas, poor kids can’t enter. This is true for such schools in metropolitan and big cities.
The worst sin these Christian schools have committed, and continue to do so, is that some of them have a system where rich kids are taught in English medium with a separate shift for poor kids for whom the medium of teaching turns vernacular. It wouldn’t be wrong to say these schools have made the upper caste-upper class elite more powerful and dominant, helping make the caste system more hegemonic. Just imagine what difference it would have made if thousands of such Christian schools had decided to follow the diktat of the Bible 300 hundred years ago and taught English to millions of Dalits, Tribals and poor kids. Instead, the fathers and nuns in these schools taught the likes of Lal Krishna Advani, J.P. Nadda, Arun Jaitley, Piyush Goyal, Vasundhara Raje and such personalities.
A government led by a party whose president J.P. Nadda had his education at St. Xaviers School, clamping down on the financial sources of Christian missionary activities is the poetic justice happening to Indian Christianity.
Dilip Mandal is the former managing editor of India Today Hindi Magazine, and has authored books on media and sociology. Views are personal.
The conversion gangs have two agendas
1. Comvert them
2. Retain the names and use reservations as usual
They are deep dived wwapons to malign and abuse Indianess making money by fradulent ways and spread hate.
Sir ,these converting etc are done by some Evangelical groups.. & are not done my community of thomas christains..
Stop this kind of rubbish things you have no right to raise hand on any other person, organisation or religion. How can you judge whole religion with only one’s act?
If it is so then you have to write an article on other persons who are killing or harassing the minorities and tribes.
In North side nearly 600+murders took place in this year why it is soo…?
The writer is on a regular payroll of Christian missionaries. Today around 2 percent Indian are Christian I.e. 3cr. It means one England is already converted here. The population and area of undivided India is bigger than whole Europe. Hence this ungrateful converted Author is unhappy that the Christian failed to create an another Europe here.
If the pope and whole Christian machineries can save the Europe in coming 50 years, then that will be their great achievement. Because the Islamic population is rising in such a high rate that Europe will become Islamicsthan in next 20 to 40 years.
There fore o intelligent Hindus be ready to defend your supreme way of life and kick out such converted hypocrites.
3 cr = 30Million.. thts it.. ? Dont know dont write or opinion.
This is a perfect bullshit report if I ever read one… Plz don’t degrade your paper with su h nonsense ….
First of christians don’t believe in converting. First and foremost thing is to serve needy. Even Jesus does not force one to accept that he is God and follow him. It is left to free will of people. They are free to choose. Secondly, Christianity is not project. Failure and success are not the focus. Focus is to love people as they are. Serve people. For example Stephens Hospital in Delhi. It serves the community in its surrounding mostly Hindus. Is it able to convert Hindus? “no”. If prayers are said they are for healing, they should not be misunderstood. Christianity does not fight for supremacy over others. Like in all other religions kings and rulers might have for political reasons used Christianity and beneftted from it. If anyone wants to write about Christianity they should read and understand the Bible and Christ’s teaching.
Everybody knows you are saying pure lie and bullshit. No need to pretend because those organizations didn’t get FCRA cancelled for nothing. Christianity believes in conversion.
You are just another propaganda news media like CCTV, Global Times, Al Jazeera. I’ve been following you guys and I’ve come to know that you guys are being paid for this. Please don’t even think of yourselves as journalists, you are a disgrace to journalists
70 Per Cent Christian Pastors Given Honorarium By Jagan Govt In AP Hold Fake Hindu Caste Certificates – Legal Rights Protection Forum. If this investigation by the NGO is correct, than Shri Dilip Mandal is wrong. Many Christian and Muslim hold fake caste certificates. Hence while they are counted as Hindus, they are not.
Do you even know why Christians (the true ones and not the liberal and heretics) reach out to people which you allege is a trap to convert people?? It is only for Jesus Christ who is the only living God (now don’t ask me if your god is dead, because i would say that it is indeed dead, as your greatest god couldn’t even attach back the severed head of ganesha, so you can understand why i say your god is dead) Anyways, i would pray for you that you at least for even once try to know about Jesus Christ our Lord for not the many wonders and miracles and healings that He has done, but to know only one thing and that is to understand why He died for our sins and rose again victorously defeating the sin in the flesh
If you dont know about other religion dont try to comment on it. You people are religious but not human at all. Your are just lije pre-programmed robots.
Note that I don’t believe in religion. Now to be impartial, Christianity is better then Hinduism and far better than Islam becoz Christians are non violent. Secondly, what’s wrong if missionaries are helping poor people, does Hindus help?
Yes very non-violent and so colonialism, slavery and slave trade, racism, Inquisition, Reconquista, Goan Inquisition, Witch hunting, Covert conversions etc. is bane of Hinduism and Islam. Very nice, delusional.
Before saying such things , please get your facts right. Please don’t entirely downgrade a complete community. Please understand that most of you guys have studied in a Christian institute atleast once in your life. Please also understand that when someone is trying to do something good please don’t degrade it in the basis of religion. This is a diverse country and each have their own beliefs and we do respect them. Christians try to help others as much as they can, people devote their lives to become celibate and serve people based on the teaching of our lord and it has got nothing to do with conversion. Just try to understand that, when you trying to stop a good effort just based on some wrong facts, you are causing much harm to poor people who benefits from the work of missionaries. But if you still want to do that,to spread rumours, then I am no one to stop you, I just have one request, please make a provision to look after these people , since we are being scrutinized and not being able to carry out the work. Please try to see the big picture and understand that true Christians just follow Christ blindly and we help because we love and care for others and not to gain something from it.
The author of this article does not know anything.
The truth is that not all missionaries are here to convert, most of them just help people to make the world a better place,in order to grow spiritually. HIndus of the rss and bajrang dal are terrified as they have seen a lot of Hindus attend church services. It can hardly be called a failed religion since a majority of the world is Christian.
Lower castes are not Hindus. Only the Brahmins are Hindus. The vast majority of others entered into Brahmins domains and took over almost all Brahminical possessions only around the 1900s.
The lower castes do have their right to decide their spiritual address. Check what happened in Travancore kingdom. The records are the in Native Life in Travancore. A vast section of the population who were literally kept as domestic cattle in the higher caste households were saved by the work of the London Missionary Society and others.
Christianity is peace And caretaking
Absolutely
Absolutely.. Hater’s everywhere but can’t deny that Love is thought even in the Bible.
The so called Ibrahimic religions failure in their oun countries and communities led them to seek on another areas to try their luck, India is a fertile land for those inhuman religions which flourishes through death an blood shed, a hard times awaiting for poor Indians
The author failed to get admission ion a Christian school I guess.
This is the most non sense article aimed at whitewashing the crime of christian missionaries. Conversion has happened and there is grandiose plans to convert the poor hindus. Plain and simple.
If you are so dumb please go to villages of AP, Bihar and such states. Please do not publish after taking bribe.
This is the most non sense article aimed at whitewashing the crime of christian missionaries. Conversion has happened and there is grandiose plans to convert the poor hindus. Plain and simple.
If you are so dumb please go to villages of AP, Bihar and such states.
Stop writing this kind of baseless article, which creates just negativity in peaceful India. Britishers ruled India for more than 200 year with doing dive and rule, you soled media is doing same thing. How dare you can this kind of articles without a knowing ground level fact and spreading it. In the name of freedom of speech you can’t allowed to do bull sit.
What u r saying….. christianity is a very precious and most respectful community….. we will never fail in our faith…. it will grow day by day….. we christians r leading a faithful life..we never harm others like other religious people….
This article is full of hatred and venom against Christian’s in India It’s a shame that Dilip Mandal being a journalist could write such nonsense about Christianity in India. Christians have been at the forefront in education and health sectors. Christianity is called a religion but in fact it is not, it is a movement against injustice, equality., oppression, persecution, a fight for truth, repentanc, forgiveness, conversion of heart, honesty and equality. Christian movement’s roots started from the poor and underpriviledged in the society. Christianity went through severe persecution the world had ever seen for 350 years. The Roman Empire used everything in its power to crush and destroy the Christians but the Roman Empire got destroyed in the end. The Jewish authorities persecuted the early Christian’s and they too failed and later they were persecuted by others. Christianity is growing inwardly all over the world because it is a revolution, not a blind faith and superstition. You can try suppressing it, but you will be defeated in the end. It is true there are some people who try to spoil the work of the Church by inducing and converting for their nefarious gains but they are a negligible lot. There are hardly any priests and nuns coming to India to convert or proseltize, infact it is the other way round. Just do a fact check and you will see thousand of Indian priests and nuns have gone to Europe and America as there is a big drop in religious vocations there. It is sad that the writer Dilip is trying to get TRP for his article like Arnab Guusami. Christian’s may be a small minority but they have a big influence in the society. Spreading rumours and inciting hatred against Christian’s in the name of conversion and inducement will only make the movement strong. We have seen what happened to Graham Staines and his two sons, how they were burned by a mob of Hindus due to incitement and rumours, how more than 50,000 Christian’s had to run for their lives in Khandanmal Orissa, houses burned, orphanage inmates burned to death due to a rumour that Swami Saraswati was killed by Christian’s but the Police said it was by Moaists. That is the kind of rumour and hatred you have spread, Dilip Mandal. God forgive you.
Completely false article. The Hindu fanatics and the BP and RSS is always trying their best to distroy the Christians. Dont worry, the Truth will prevail. You don’t know and don’t have the figure, you will never have how many millions of brahmins and good Hindus have come out darkness to light.
This article is full of hatred and venom against Christians in India It’s a shame that Dilip Mandal being a journalist could write such nonsense about Christianity in India. Christians have been at the forefront in education and health sectors. Christianity is called a religion but in fact it is not, it is a movement against injustice, equality., oppression, persecution, a fight for truth, repentanc, forgiveness, conversion of heart, honesty and equality. Christian movement’s roots started from the poor and underpriviledged in the society. Christianity went through severe persecution the world had ever seen for 350 years. The Roman Empire used everything in its power to crush and destroy the Christians but the Roman Empire got destroyed in the end. The Jewish authorities persecuted the early Christian’s and they too failed and later they were persecuted by others. Christianity is growing inwardly all over the world because it is a revolution, not a blind faith and superstition. You can try suppressing it, but you will be defeated in the end. It is true there are some people who try to spoil the work of the Church by inducing and converting for their nefarious gains but they are a negligible lot. There are hardly any priests and nuns coming to India to convert or proseltize, infact it is the other way round. Just do a fact check and you will see thousand of Indian priests and nuns have gone to Europe and America as there is a big drop in religious vocations there. It is sad that the writer Dilip is trying to get TRP for his article like Arnab Guusami. Christian’s may be a small minority but they have a big influence in the society. Spreading rumours and inciting hatred against Christian’s in the name of conversion and inducement will only make the movement strong. We have seen what happened to Graham Staines and his two sons, how they were burned by a mob of Hindus due to incitement and rumours, how more than 50,000 Christian’s had to run for their lives in Khandanmal Orissa, houses burned, orphanage inmates burned to death due to a rumour that Swami Saraswati was killed by Christian’s but the Police said it was by Moaists. That is the kind of rumour and hatred you have spread, Dilip Mandal. God forgive you.
What about saffron terrorism and
I mean wat about terrorists group like RSS ?
Saffron terrorism?? Haha you know what? It does exist and I won’t deny that but Radical Islamic terrorists have been destroying the world peace for a long time. Turkey just converted a meant to be church into a mosque and claims that they’re secular. They’ve been transporting
From where you got this? RSS is not a terrorist organisation. Read about them Mohammad then you eill come to know about their ethos, organisational behaviour. Better not to make generalised statement.
This article is about the menace of conversion. Don’t give wrong interpretation to what the author is explaining. Missionaries are supposed help poor underprivileged societies for improving their health & for education without luring them to change their faith.
I have always seen the Print as being a secular media outlet. But the assumption given here by the writer seems to show Christians in India in a negative light and stating that Christianity has no future in India by merely pointing out only the negatives aspect of Christians without even trying to look at the contribution of Christians in India. What about the schools, colleges and hospitals? I suggest you even just take CMC Vellore alone and just see their contribution to society where doctors who are service minded and not money minded are helping the society. Kindly share a balanced view in future. Taking sides especially on a media front will ensure that the Print becomes just like any other media house. The aim is to be neutral, truthful and yet present a balanced view.
Agreed
Northeast Christian population is 90%, Kerala Christian population is 27% and Tamilnadu it is 12%, Andhra Pradesh it is 12%, Please do not whitewash Christian conversion success.
Rightly said. This article is fully biased
Correct.. this report is false.. in Andhra Pradesh the conversation rate is very high.. I my self witnessed entire villages turn Christianity.
Absolutely. Look at South Korea and Phillipines too. The local culture has been totally annihilated. It is ok for one to embrace a religion of their choice but to systematically attack a religion masking their religious identity by carrying a hindu name is cunningness of the highest degree. They also foster anti-national feelings among Tamils in TN. They are trying to decouple Hinduism from Tamil Identity.
This is bullshit of a report .Step into AP and see how the missionaries are working on large scale to covert people .just see how may acres of land is being occupied in name of building churches .My village never had a church .today there are 12 churches in my surrounding 3 villages .Most of the lower level government employeesin Revenue,Village offices are Christians and they always deny the permission for pujas. this ganesh chaturthi we are not even given permission to just keep urthy og lord ganesh .we just wanted to install the murhty ,not want to go on doing all pujas .the same village gave perission to conduct church mass gatherings on both friday and sundays .this is prevelant in all villages.
People convert becuase they want to convert for a better life. A life with dignity and religion where you not only need to go to Church but also to go to school,collage and higher studies at the fraction of the cost. This is why the south is more educated than North.
In south even otherwise education was there. And castism as in hinduizm is very well prevail in christiyanity
This article does not cover the reality. The reality is that these missionaries have changed their approach, while the conversions continue. The converted are encouraged to keep the Hindu names. Hence, these census are conducted the true numbers never are reported. I agree with Swamy’s tweet. These missionaries are more dangerous than jihad.
All the Andra people want to immigrate to Christian countries and going to a Christian country is their only aim in life. So may be they are practicing for their future. Haha
@Dilip,
It does seem to be a failed project considering population statistics.!
In any case, all religions are dying and go through their ebbs and flows.
Does not mean, we shouldn’t be vigilant!
Lately, it has become a business opportunity for Indian interlocutors of such funding organizations from outside.
They are just getting rich pocketing the funds and not using it as intended.
The great Indian corruption (habitual by now) will kill conversion efforts (if any)
Some PEOPLE pose as journalist but are actually anti HINDU activist.
1) They themselves are converted but keep HINDU NAME AND caste identity to bad mouth HINDUS.
2) They will bad mouth HINDUS but will never discuss how there is still racism fascism and slavery practiced in their religion.
3) How all over the world their religious leaders are found to be involved in sex and embezzlement scandals. But in INDIA the community is dissuaded or abandoned if they speak or protest.
4) Hence we see these converted journalist raving and ranting about HINDUS. But knows that if they point out what’s wrong in their community he will be an outcast.
5) HINDUS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN CONVERSIONS. But will not accept proselytizers with fake propaganda either.
These guys at The Print are the same guys who go around with a begging bowl to support this kind of pseudo secularism . Talk shit about Hindus and go Scott free in the name of freedom of speech. Like a lot of others who expressed their views here the author has completely kept quiet about north eastern states where Christians whose population was 10 % has gone upto almost 90% and most converts to christianity have held on to their actual Hindu names and have not said that they have converted to christianity should they lose their dalit or obc/tribal benefits. And seriously the kind of the hate this guy is spreading and divide he is creating by slandering the Hindu community should you be even having this guy write articles for you .
Chritianity project failed because of only one reason: it wasn’t forced brutally. Brutally converting is the only way large scale conversion can work. And history of human civilisations has a lot of stuff about invasions and conversions. However good or bad a religion is it cannot spread on its own. It had to be forced. Only Atheism is a religion that needs no bullshit like these. It has science and human reason as its messenger. It truly makes you powerful and no stupid jackass.
Before writing anything just make your facts correct. If Christianity was not there in India then you won’t be writing this article in English. If you say Christianity has failed in India then your development and education has also failed. The so called education system has its foundation from Christian missionary therefore today lot of Indians can to fly to the Christian countries. Even they want to have citizenship of the so called Christian country and want to wait for 2 decade for the process to complete. Do you know how many denomination of Christian are there in India? When you are referring nuns and father which denomination are you addressing and what are the principles or law it follows? When you are quoting bible verses don’t quote in out of context you need to educate yourself. Don’t be like Fargo. Go back to history and see foundations laid by the Christian missionary. If Christianity failed in India then India won’t have evolved today because the foundation are strong therefore India still has a place in world map. Did you even know that our constitution is based on Christian principles and values. Can even tell the basis of our constitution….
Please dont mis lead sir.
Because of British India has gone backwards by thousand years.britishers took away all wealth from india. Our education system was much more effective than english.now we produce more clerks
From your reply, it’s clear you have zero knowledge about Indian history and education in general. Pure ignorance, must be bliss!
Ha.. ha.. ha.. what a joke.. foundation built with what?
If Britain and Christianity wouldn’t have colonized half of Earth, annihilated local cultures and languages in their civilizing motive then one wouldn’t need to write in English because English would be the language of no more than the tiny island in Atlantic Ocean.
Sir,
You didn’t discuss the north east where they have christianised almost whole population. They have been hand in gloves with the naxalites of India. They have been instrumental in fomenting insurgency in several parts of the country. There schools slowly and steadily de-hinduising the pupils also.
That’s why North East states of India have been living in peace,dignity for women n caste ,no dowry for marriage,no murder on the basis of covertrousness etc…
Pseudo secularist media…You will fail!
Looks like this guy out of touch with the current. Not sure why print allow this dummy guy. In south most of sc caste converted to Christianity out of hate. Most of the converts are worse than than actual/original.
The census is scam. Actual figures are like Muslims 20% Christians 10%. Hindus are around 65% .In usa white Christians won’t let in black Christians in their churches. There are separate churches for each race.
Exactly
The writer seems to be an advocate for missionaries in India. Though I like Shekhar Gupta’s balanced articles, this Liberal drivel and apologist of minority articles of this kind are sickening. unnecessary waste of time to read.
Missionaries have converted dalits and poor people, but asked them stay hindu in papers due to SC ST benefits, So dont think that they have not been successful.
The census cannot be relied on if people lie about their religion. If folks do not change their name and retain their Hindu caste affiliations for appropriate benefits. At the end of the day, Missionary conversions should essentially be banned not just in India but all over the world. This is cultural genocide.
As much as serving the poor is Christian Ethow, so are the Crusades that were carried in the lord’s name. Let us not speak falsely and mislead. Intellectual honesty please!!!!
Pl see what happened to north east India. Those states were not Christian majority . In few decades now they are Christian mejority states.
Most normal people dont panic about Christianity these days (2% most being casual).
People panic about Islam (Isis, Al-qaeda, Pakistan, bangladesh etc). There is a reason to be phobic about Islam
The author has no idea what Bible teaches, his views are biased.
Teach what your Bible teaches to your missionaries.
Mandal or like him should ask himself / herself .. why is that missionaries are more prevalent in Forest area n tribal region . Because they are luring n fooling poor . They are stealing their identity n culture and making them a abrahamic demonic cult . One should learn about project Joshua n how 40000 missionaries are still in India converting poor . Joshuaproject.net/
Would you like to edify me about Joshua project?
You cannot convert people with money…it’s all about who you believe in your heart…you know why many Hindu’s convert…..it’s because of yours Vedhas and Puranas…when people read them..they do not find a true God in it… seriously check for yourselves..just see how these so called God’s were born…see how they dealt with women, how many did they marry or had relationship…sorry to say it’s all about sex…check history of Brahma , Vishnu , Shiva , Rama, etc..check how they were born , how they dealt with women , how did they die, what we’re their deeds…do they all revolve around women ? Whom did they curse and who cursed them in previous lifes..etc What did they do for you that you should worship him ? Before anyone comment back check the above and seek the truth….I don’t mean offending my hindu friends..but just see the facts…
People should learn about a bhagoda Joginder nath mandal . This mandal is following profecy of the same Mandal .
The author himself is a converted Christian, like other converts he uses Hindu name and uses his caste to get reservations and financial benefits and at the same time uses his position to spur poison on Hindus , in south India , unofficial estimates suggests at least 25% population converted in to Christianity as of 2020, I am from south and o could see thousands of churches coming every year , yet Mandal trying to whitewash the conversion figures.
So you accept that conversion was a project.
A good article. But I think the author needs an in-depth research on the missionaries work in India. I am not disagreeing the fact the “some” lure the poor to convert. But one cannot generalize the whole missionaries. There are certain groups practice the luring business. And also I cannot agree with generalizing of the schools run by missionaries. I also do not agree the leadership of Churches in India remain in the hands of upper caste Christians is a notion far from thruth. Just to give “a” few examples the parents of the Archbishop of Trivandrum who wields enormous power in the church are from the fishing community and their income source was fishing. Even the Major Archbishop of the Sero Malabar Christians George Allenchery also cannot claim an upper caste hereditary and as far as I personally know the fact that his father was a farmer turned merchant. So the article has lot of flops which I think resulted from poor research. In my humble opinion why the hinduthwadis objection to the missionary work is the education they give to all irrespective of caste and creed and by doing so enabling the poor and marginalized to wake up and question their oppressors. Why sister Rania Maria was killed? Why Graham Stain and kids were killed? Why the Kandamal massacre happened? Its not just they indulging in conversion. The perpetrators worry is the empowerment of those adivasis..How an upper caste society can tolerate an adivasi or a lower caste Indian becoming their DC? Though I can absolve Keraal in general from that kind of sentiments, such sentiments are deeply entrenched in most Indian states..
Arch Bishop of Trivandrum fom Latin Church, which generally frm fishermen community. Ofcourse Bishop Allencherry from uppercast. Why 85 year old sanyasi killed in Kandamal, who was working amoungtribals. You are giving education to tribals isnot out of charity. Best examples areNagaland, Muzoram, Manipur etc
Please notbe thatinnocent
We have not sowed the roots of education in North East. India’s best Management University Christ University, students from different states. Its all about providing quality education and spreading love and mankind
So venom against elected party without any base. How is The Print publishing this onesided view?
A vile ant-Christian article, barely readable in its construction and facile in intent.
EVEN HINDUISM IS A FAILURE.SUPREME COURT OF INDIA IN ITS JUDGEMENT REPORTED IN AIR 1995 SUPREME COURT PAGE 2089 CATEGORICALLY SAYS HINDUISM IS NOT A RELIGON.IT IS AN ASSORTMENT OF BELIEFS WITHOUT A HEAVENLY BOOK AND WITHOUT A PROPHET OF GOD TO EXPLAIN THE WILL OF GOD TO THE MANKIND.SUCH A SYSTEM CAN BE A CULT AND NOTHING MORE.FURTHER SUPREME COURT SAYS HINDUISM ALLOWS HINDUS TO WORSHIP ANY GOD OF THEIR CHOICE.AS CAN BE SEEN HINDUISM IS NOT THE NAME OF RELIGON BUT IT MEANS ADHERENTS OF INDUS RIVER OR ALSO IT IS CALLED BY TERRORITIORIAL NAME OF HIND.IN SO FAR WHY CHRISTIANITY IS FAILING EVERWHERE IS BECAUSE CHRISTIANS ALSO TOOK TO IDOL WORSHIP INSTEAD OF GOD WORSHIP.IDOLS OF CHRIST AND MARY ARE EVERYWHERE IN CHURCHES,CHRISTIANS HOMES, AND SO THEY HAVE FORSOOK TRUE GOD AND BOUND TO FAIL.THE GLORY IS TEMPERORY.ONLY ISLAM IS THE CORRECT AND TRUE HEAVENLY RELIGON WITH A HEAVENLY SINGLE GOD, A HEAVENLY SCRIPTURE ,THE HOLY QURAN AS DIVINE REVELATION CONTAINING THE WILL OF THE UNIVERSAL GOD/ GREAT ALLAH,AND A PROPHET TO ALL MANKIND, PROPHET MUHAMMAD TO COMMUNICATE THE WILL OF GOD TO ALL MANKIND IN THE HOLY QURAN.EVENTUALLY ISLAM WILL SUCCEEED,IF NOT HERE IN THE NEXT WORLD BEFORE GOD.
But then how does the true god not know that Earth is not flat, but round.
Fools home Hinduism is a myth…
The Holy Bible never says Earth is flat. Rectify your knowledge on God of the Bible. You seems to have wrong information about The God of Bible
Indians are fed with wrong notion that the missionaries induce, and proselytize poor and dalits. Infact they only do the social service. Christians believes and the Holy Bible says that man cannot convert any one, it is the work of God. Man can only tell the Good news that the there is only one living God. Only fortunates and the blessed can trust and those who are doomed for destruction cannot trust.
British rule never supported Christian Missionaries. Missionaries came to show and share the love of God to the poor and needy Indians. They served the sick, the dying, lepers, TB patients risking their life. They started schools, medicals and served the people of India for nothing.
Christianity never came with British, it came to India in 1st century AD through one of the disciples Jesus Christ- St.Thomas.
You cannot be Christian if you cannot give. Dont expects anything in return for becoming Christian.
In the end of 1st century AD India had 3% Christians and now it is 2.4%.
First rule of any religion taught to you is respect. I see you have already failed on that account.
Look at ground reality. Not numbers from a census
Nisaruddin Ahmed Jeddy: So what caste do you belong to ?
Mr Nisaruddin Ahmed Jeddy : There is more violence, bloodshed, misogyny and human rights violations in Muslim countries that swear by the Holy Qur’an than in countries that do not use the Holy Qur’an. Indeed, most Muslims prefer to flee Muslim countries to settle down in Christian countries or places like India. After all, how many Muslim refugees want to go to Saudi Arabia? Most Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian and other refugees in Islamic Turkey want to leave that country to enter Europe. Many even wish to leave Islam to live in Europe.
In fact, one of the worst incidents of genocide was seen in 1971 when the Punjabi Muslims of West Pakistan brutally murdered the Bengali Muslims of erstwhile East Pakistan. How do you justify that genocide Mr Jeddy? Permitted in the Holy Qur’an perhaps ?
Indeed, Muslim minorities such as the Shia, Ismailias, Bohras, Ahmadiyas etc. are safer in non-Islamic India or in Europe than in any Islamic country. The Holy Qur’an does not actually protect these Islamic minorities, leave alone infidels like Hindus, Buddhists, Christians etc. doesn’t it Mr Jeddy?
This author is either paid or too naive.
Why don’t you comment with reference so that people can verify themselves. This is the problem of Hinduism they followed different stories and each era had developed myths evolving which were not the words of one true God. Hence 33 crores diety.
Nope you are as right as bogus theories of islam. The aggrevise misogyny n oppressive fundamentals of islam n christianity is pushing people back to hinduism. Hate mongering n homophobic speeches n inhuman deeds of muslim uma n church priest keep presenting them as biggest hypocritics. Keep believeing in flatearth n pious rapist muhmaid n supercorrupt kerela rapist bishop
Even Christianity is myth that Jesus was/ is god Jesus Christ is a person who saved Israelites from seviour punishments from old testament he opposed old testament punishments that lead to death of Jesus
It is in old testament those who oppose my rule kill him
Author just didn’t know the reality. missionaries targets are poor scheduled caste(SC) people, even they convert and follow christianity, they won’t make it on government papers due to the seats they’re getting by SC quota. But innocently they’re naming the child’s pure Christian names, which will be a problem to getting SC quota in future.
This whole conversation is for Converted Christian to come and abuse Hindus. And irony is this they called Hindus stories as myth and gosip but his own son of God rises after death and born by a vergin mother…. Yeah this is very scientific