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The language chauvinists in the comments clearly have no understanding of how the discipline of linguistics works. Arguing against Proto-Dravidian is like showing up to a physics lecture and shouting that atoms don’t exist. It’s not opinion – it’s linguistic reconstruction based on phonology, grammar, and cognate comparison. Your disbelief doesn’t undo a century of historical linguistics.
Claiming that every Dravidian language comes from Old Tamil is like claiming all Romance languages came directly from modern French – charming, but absurd.
As many people pointed out This article seems to have been written in biased way to confuse People to mislead them. My simple question: What is “proto-dravidian language”? Where is the proof of such a language except that you have found in your dreams ? 😂
Listened! Yet to be more scientific. Arguments were not rationally grounded nor empirically sound. Surely celebrities cant be heeded to. But yet real scientists are in want.
Shetty , the name itself shown he is kanada, people shoes understand, the concept behind is how old is tamil , in tamil tholkappiyam written in old tamil , written more than 3500 years before, might be even more old, than 3500 yrs, is there any proven literature available?
This girl yapped out of this content 😂 full of sanskrit propoganda and zero logic , first of all there is no pro Dravidian s#it this is kunnadigas propaganda they will say anything to not be a mother tamil 🤣
This article written by a school kid not even a grown up guy, he studied 6-10 class outdated useless syllabus and writing up this article,
Still talking about sangam, much much much older human traces and Tamili script on much developed civilization is found in keeladi tamilnadu (much earlier than harappa etc etc which you read in school book) live in present updated content, has been proven using carbon dating method by multiple advance laboratories across the world.
He has extensively used “ This doesn’t mean” which basically indicates an inconclusive article. North Karnataka area indicates kannada is the oldest. Kannadigas first kingdom and many other kingdoms originated in North Karnataka. Kannadigas ruled more than half of India many times during their 1500 years of rule, no other language boasts of such lengthy duration. Tamil is half around 700 years.
What a crap article what is Porto Dravida language, even though the word was neverever used in south India before migrants came into india, they ised to mention Dravida for mentioning south indian temple workers as dravidian, even still now
One have to understand that the script of Tamil and Sanskrit are different. Because language Tamil’s existence was before Sanskrit. When Sanskrit grew up in North some of the Tamil scholars were introduced by Aryan Sanskrit scholars who came from north and started propagating. Sanskrit. That way Tamil got infected with few Sanskrit letters and was growing up with Tamil language, but Sanskrit was not able to live up to the expectations of Tamil.
It was the people who accepted the growth of a language, even though propagation work was on.
It is wrong to mention that Sanskrit was the oldest languages and all other Indian languages were born out of Sanskrit.
You guys (most of the Indians) won’t even think about recent discoveries. You just want to show that tamil is not great. Keezhadi even had a iron related manufacturing facility around 500 bce. You will just ignore won’t even try to reveal the truth. All lies!
Yes after aryans come to India they try to speak
People so they sanskrit+ add local language
Convert to state language
But main picture all state same where need sanskrit other wise they can’t speak but TAMIL only one of the India language without sanskrit you can speak write
So you’re trying to say all the Indian languages came from Sanskrit?! How dumb is to say or even think like that! You should know about Khezadi evacuations. One of the dumbest Article I have ever read. Waste of time!
🤣 waste of time in reading this article. The points mentioned are just keeping the truth in dim light. I have no idea why author of this article is having no knowledge.
Ok Scientist. Is the facts you Scientist mentioned is correct? When is the first account of written Kannada? It is 450 CE not BC. What made you think you are a Scientist?
Banal statements aren’t right only with individuals or wrong even if from news articles in The Print? No indications of burrying in urns in Tamil or the way you call as early Proto Dravidian language, what resrarch is that based on? Can we get references. Because even a non linguist knows references to ‘Thazhi’, urn in Tamil literature. I mean anyone who studied Tamil in school knows this. Where then is the author making this inference from is a curious question. pls gives us an explanation as we say in Tamil, one pot of boiled rice is checked with one rice. if the banal reference to no reference to urns in ancient Tamil is the one rice, then the article is entirely wrong.
Either you should read the history properly with evidences ,you don’t talk about keezhadi excavations , or don’t project your baseless projections into the minds of people. You really don’t know anything about Tamil or its fame , go search the internet thoroughly before posting such stupid articles.
The language chauvinists in the comments clearly have no understanding of how the discipline of linguistics works. Arguing against Proto-Dravidian is like showing up to a physics lecture and shouting that atoms don’t exist. It’s not opinion – it’s linguistic reconstruction based on phonology, grammar, and cognate comparison. Your disbelief doesn’t undo a century of historical linguistics.
Claiming that every Dravidian language comes from Old Tamil is like claiming all Romance languages came directly from modern French – charming, but absurd.
“we can assemble a hypothetical Proto-Dravidian”
And the article written by Setti
These are very well enough to confirm this is a rubbish article! Also The Print has lost the credibility allowing such rubbish articles.
As many people pointed out This article seems to have been written in biased way to confuse People to mislead them. My simple question: What is “proto-dravidian language”? Where is the proof of such a language except that you have found in your dreams ? 😂
Listened! Yet to be more scientific. Arguments were not rationally grounded nor empirically sound. Surely celebrities cant be heeded to. But yet real scientists are in want.
Shetty , the name itself shown he is kanada, people shoes understand, the concept behind is how old is tamil , in tamil tholkappiyam written in old tamil , written more than 3500 years before, might be even more old, than 3500 yrs, is there any proven literature available?
This girl yapped out of this content 😂 full of sanskrit propoganda and zero logic , first of all there is no pro Dravidian s#it this is kunnadigas propaganda they will say anything to not be a mother tamil 🤣
The title asks to ‘listen to the scientist’. But where is the scientist? Full of rubbish…
Why the article been written and published by kids who doesn’t know the history.
This article written by a school kid not even a grown up guy, he studied 6-10 class outdated useless syllabus and writing up this article,
Still talking about sangam, much much much older human traces and Tamili script on much developed civilization is found in keeladi tamilnadu (much earlier than harappa etc etc which you read in school book) live in present updated content, has been proven using carbon dating method by multiple advance laboratories across the world.
He has extensively used “ This doesn’t mean” which basically indicates an inconclusive article. North Karnataka area indicates kannada is the oldest. Kannadigas first kingdom and many other kingdoms originated in North Karnataka. Kannadigas ruled more than half of India many times during their 1500 years of rule, no other language boasts of such lengthy duration. Tamil is half around 700 years.
What a crap article what is Porto Dravida language, even though the word was neverever used in south India before migrants came into india, they ised to mention Dravida for mentioning south indian temple workers as dravidian, even still now
Just a hogwash to support one language and appease so.e people.. such a vomit of an article..
One have to understand that the script of Tamil and Sanskrit are different. Because language Tamil’s existence was before Sanskrit. When Sanskrit grew up in North some of the Tamil scholars were introduced by Aryan Sanskrit scholars who came from north and started propagating. Sanskrit. That way Tamil got infected with few Sanskrit letters and was growing up with Tamil language, but Sanskrit was not able to live up to the expectations of Tamil.
It was the people who accepted the growth of a language, even though propagation work was on.
It is wrong to mention that Sanskrit was the oldest languages and all other Indian languages were born out of Sanskrit.
You guys (most of the Indians) won’t even think about recent discoveries. You just want to show that tamil is not great. Keezhadi even had a iron related manufacturing facility around 500 bce. You will just ignore won’t even try to reveal the truth. All lies!
Every historian or so called ones gets affected by the Sanskrit bias. I think it’s difficult to expect a professional historical approach from Indians
Yes after aryans come to India they try to speak
People so they sanskrit+ add local language
Convert to state language
But main picture all state same where need sanskrit other wise they can’t speak but TAMIL only one of the India language without sanskrit you can speak write
That much affect happening after aryans come.
What do scientists know about languages any way!
So you’re trying to say all the Indian languages came from Sanskrit?! How dumb is to say or even think like that! You should know about Khezadi evacuations. One of the dumbest Article I have ever read. Waste of time!
🤣 waste of time in reading this article. The points mentioned are just keeping the truth in dim light. I have no idea why author of this article is having no knowledge.
urn burials has no word is it.. check this out in tamil.. mudhumakkal thazhi.. burying old people in terracotta urns..
There is no any archaeology evidence Aryans theory…. How you are all telling stories that is only theory it is not really happened….
Dravidian is s misnomer, stand corrected, it’s tamil language family
Ok Scientist. Is the facts you Scientist mentioned is correct? When is the first account of written Kannada? It is 450 CE not BC. What made you think you are a Scientist?
No word about Tulu, the language which first separated from Proto-south dravida. Looks like it doesn’t fit into the narrative
Banal statements aren’t right only with individuals or wrong even if from news articles in The Print? No indications of burrying in urns in Tamil or the way you call as early Proto Dravidian language, what resrarch is that based on? Can we get references. Because even a non linguist knows references to ‘Thazhi’, urn in Tamil literature. I mean anyone who studied Tamil in school knows this. Where then is the author making this inference from is a curious question. pls gives us an explanation as we say in Tamil, one pot of boiled rice is checked with one rice. if the banal reference to no reference to urns in ancient Tamil is the one rice, then the article is entirely wrong.
Either you should read the history properly with evidences ,you don’t talk about keezhadi excavations , or don’t project your baseless projections into the minds of people. You really don’t know anything about Tamil or its fame , go search the internet thoroughly before posting such stupid articles.
What are you hallucinating? I wonder how these stupid baseless articles are allowed to be written
So where is this porto dravidian? That is tamil, you people are ignorant hypocrites. This is purely presstitute.