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Why distrust-but-verify is a prudent response to Pakistan Gen Bajwa’s call to bury the past

If India thinks it's caught in an awful two-front situation, the picture is more challenging for Pakistan. It can continue fighting India and become a colony of China.

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The first reaction among informed Indians to Pakistan Army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa’s 13-minute speech at the Islamabad Security Dialogue last Thursday would be a yawn. All he’s saying is, India and Pakistan should bury the past, make a new beginning, they have a shared stake in peace so they can focus on their economies, and so on. Isn’t this what every Pakistani leader, elected or not, has said at some point of time? Then they stab you in the back. So, what’s new?

To borrow and twist that phrase from the disclaimers in mutual fund advertisements, if the past is the only guide to future performance, there is no point talking about Pakistan. Just buy more sniper rifles and sit on the LoC. So, how do we break the deadlock?

Bombing them to the Stone Age isn’t the answer. We know that after Kargil, Op Parakram and Pulwama/Balakot. Even tough-talking US security-diplomat Richard Armitage, who famously used this threat to make Pakistan fall in line after 9/11, knew it was just hyperbole. In the 20 years since, the US has bombed large parts of Afghanistan to the Stone Age several times over. But it is the Americans who are retreating in defeat.

Militarily, diplomatically, politically or economically, achieving anything by force is out of the question. As former Army chief General V.P. Malik said in a conversation with me earlier this month on ThePrint’s ‘Off The Cuff’, it isn’t possible today to achieve any of our territorial objectives, PoK or Aksai Chin, by military force. Besides the capability question, any such adventure would immediately run into global disapproval and force a ceasefire earlier than you can advance a few miles. For clarity, these are my words, not his.

Where do we go from here then? And how did we get here in the first place?

Suddenly, one morning last month, we saw coordinated statements by the directors general of military operations (DGMOs) on both sides that they had solemnly agreed to once again abide by the 2003 agreement on maintaining peace on the Line of Control. What that means is a stop to those madcap, aimless spells of firing heavy ordnance at each other’s posts and villages. It achieved nothing, except take out some bhadaas (frustration).

Besides, it made great pictures and TV for commando comic channels on either side, which could then, with the help of angry grey moustaches, declare victory for their respective armies. But the armies know the truth. As do their governments. At some point, they knew they needed to move on.

Anybody who thinks that both DGMOs woke up one morning with the same thought of peacemaking has to be drinking something very potent, maybe gifted Maotai from the Chinese, and too much of it. Similarly, anybody who believes Gen. Bajwa’s speech came serendipitously has to be drinking on the next bar stool. Something has gone on between the two sides for several weeks, if not months, behind the scenes.


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Strong words of caution have come from the rugged old intelligence/strategic/military establishment.

What does one more Pakistani general mean when he says bury the past and move on? It means India should bury the past and move on while Pakistan subverts us. For people who’ve dedicated their lives to fighting the same adversary, this sentiment is easy to appreciate.

But then, as we argued earlier, it isn’t possible in 2021 for one nation to pulverise another to achieve anything. Especially when we live in a neighbourhood with strong, competing nationalism and robust, nuclear-armed militaries. Nobody is ever going to be like Armenia to Azerbaijan or Ukraine to Russia here. We need to think creatively.

In negotiations to end the Cold War, Ronald Reagan had famously used a line with Mikhail Gorbachev: ‘Trust, but verify’. While dealing with Pakistan, we could turn it inside out: ‘Distrust, but verify’. What that means is, while you view every new move coming from Rawalpindi (my preferring this over Islamabad is deliberate) with the highest degree of suspicion, you check it out nevertheless.

That’s why, while we hold our deep scepticism close to our hearts, we apply our minds to read between the general’s lines, spoken as these were in the most delightful, pucca Punjabi pronunciation familiar on both sides of the border.

Two things stand out in that written speech. One, a commitment of non-interference in the internal affairs of any country in the neighbourhood or the region. You might say it’s a mere platitude. But be cautious and verify. Nobody’s in a rush to invite the Pakistani Northern Areas commander to a game of golf in Srinagar’s Badami Bagh cantonment.

Second, he did not leave out the mention of Kashmir. But there was a nuance. He said progress in relations of course depends on India creating a ‘conducive environment’ on its side of Kashmir. The customary mention would’ve reminded India of the need to restore the pre-5 August 2019 status to Jammu and Kashmir forthwith, and prepare for self-determination as laid down in the UN Security Council Resolutions, blah blah blah.

Does it mean the Pakistani Army has given up its insistence on the restoration of the pre-5 August 2019 status quo ante? Don’t jump to that conclusion. But check it out. Because, if we think we are caught in this awful two-front situation, the picture only looks worse from where Bajwa sits.


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He sees a domineering India to the east, an unravelling Afghanistan and a complex Iran to the west, an overbearing China to the north and a US which is no longer an ally. We are at that juncture of history where US and India are allies and their embrace is getting tighter in the Quad. Like all the most important members of the Pakistani elite, Bajwa has to make a call.

Either make peace with India, or continue fighting it and become a military protectorate and economic colony of China.

Remember, that all of the Pakistani elite have their children, money and assets in the West. If they weren’t driven by such hatred of India, they would see little in common with China. Further, this comes at a time when the Gulf countries are alienated from Pakistan and are recalling their loans. Peace with India is a way ahead.

Within India, we have to admit that the Modi government is much too successful in keeping its mind to itself. Anybody except a few in the government, who claims to have an insight into its thinking, is lying. But, we have enough evidence by now to know that this is not a dispensation that looks forward to any conflict.

In seven years, and across eight budgets, the allocation for defence has remained the same or marginally declined. They are not preparing for war. Similarly, Pathankot, Uri, Pulwama, Galwan all tell us they are also not about to be knee-jerked into a conflict.

Let’s conclude this with a view that will provoke, even trigger (since that’s the word millennials prefer), many. The Modi government can build on a no-war policy because it is strong enough to do so. A weaker government would’ve been under much greater pressure in east Ladakh, and earlier with Pakistan, to do something more adventurous. Many taunted Modi for not going to war with China, unlike Nehru who “at least fought, even if he lost”. Nehru’s was a much weaker government in 1962 than Modi’s now. He had no choice but to go down fighting, Modi is too strong to fall in that trap. He would prefer peace, not war.


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127 COMMENTS

  1. Being An Indian ( kashmiri ) , I am very delight And captivated by a speech of Bajwa saying , bury the past, make a new beginning , although Pakistani Army has given up its insistence on the restoration of the pre-5 August 2019 status is stout . Being from a conflict zone my heart is drenched in wine . Although most kashmiris have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) (for teens)- feel they can’t stop thinking about worries like these: someone might get sick, hurt, or die. things might be germy or dirty. something isn’t straight, even, or exactly right . Finally and decisively we want to get rid of this blame game , edge out the false Hope , moreover Essentially, the right to self-determination is the right of a people to determine its own destiny. In particular, the principle allows a people to choose its own political status and to determine its own form of economic, cultural and social development promise, by saying this
    Ham Ko Mili Hain Aaj Ye, Ghadiyaan Nasib Se
    Ji Bhar Ke Dekh Lijiye, Ham Ko Qarib Se
    Phir Aap Ke Nasib Men, Ye Baat Ho Na Ho
    Shaayad Phir Is Janam Men Mulaaqaat Ho Na Ho
    Lag Ja Gale Ki Phir Ye Hasin Raat Ho Na Ho

  2. Open the border so two nation people can travel in both countries freely i want to travel in lahore cuisine and hospitality is same of both countries

  3. Pakistan definitely is serious at this time. Pakistan is facing economic crunch and lot of other internal and external problems. The only way to fix them is to have cordial relations with india. Yes you can’t trust them. But they may want peace for 10 years or so. Ultimately they will do what they have to. I’m from indian occupies kashmir and huge fan of Pakistan. So you have to believe my words. I follow them more closely than you people do. Peace between India and Pakistan means peaceful life for us kashmiris too.

    • What is Indian occupied Kashmir? Something similar to Indian occupied Kerala, or India occupied Haryana, is it? Nice way of putting, “you have to believe me”. Who is you people? So many people here: Bihari people, and (hundred of type of Biharis) then Bundelkhandis, and Malwa, and Gujarati and Kashmiri, and Ladakhi and, and Dogras and Bakalwals and 1000’s more all over. what are you talking about? Really a nasty rotten to the core piece of writing. I know where your love lies with some Pakistani Bachhe baaz. You love that.

    • The day we believe in Pakistan we are done in…1947 , 1965, 1971, 1999 are proofs. Since 1989 they are fighting the war of the thousand cuts.. Drugs and guns are being smuggled. All sorts of jihadis are coming through LoC Bangladesh, Nepal and other places. One statement doesn’t change anything. Is Hafiz Saheed still collecting money and training people- yes. Pakistani Army and Rangers still firing -yes. Preparing and improving defences. -yes. What verifiables have changed -zilch…We have our Jaichands, ever too eager to co tow line of outsiders. Walk softly but carry a big stick…

  4. The ditching of the past offered by Pakistan Army general is a very positive move but we Indians must take in to consideration that this is an excuse for Pakistan to get time to consolidate their military and to accumulated more unconventional weapons from China. They know very well that India can never win a war with Pakistan since both countries are nuclear powered. Due to financial crisis in Middle east Saudi Arabia and other Middle East countries are asking for the return of financial aid given to Pakistan.
    I think it will be better that India says a big NO to Pakistan that right now we are not ready to ditch the past. If you send cross border terrorists to India then we will retaliat deep in to Pakistan. If you fire in to our border we will retaliate with Lava. So let us remain vigil and never fall in to this type of silly traps.

  5. Basically Pakistan extends a hand only when they feel vulnerable and soon after that they attack
    Remember 1999, The Vajpayee Sharif meet
    India should never reciprocate but work feverishly to destroy Pakistan and exterminate all Muslims living in Pakistan to make the entire subcontinent safe for Hindus for the next thousand years.

  6. I always why the print and some other spread hatred towards India by making fake propaganda, half baked truths

  7. India is a big country.. we should just move on with countries that we have good ties with. And leave poor countries like Pakistan they are no match for us they already have enough problems internally Imran Khan is a monkey among the donkies.. when his own countrymen are not supporting him to settle issues with india.. what can we expect out of them? Jai hind.. jai bharat..

  8. Reading the comments in this article gives one a true picture of the level of raw hatred Indians have for their Pakistani neighbors. There is an old Hindi saying “taali do haath say bajh ti hai”. The differences between Indian and Pakistanis are not Pakistans fault alone.

    Indians need to look at the mirror and have an honest self assessment rather than piling on the blame at others. Every chance at peace, no matter how remote, needs to be followed up on and encouraged. We cannot give up in a neighborhood where hundreds of millions of lives can improved by the cooling down of rhetoric and bombast.

  9. Well said,but it a one sided story you people are in the notion that pakistan is too weak to concede anything for peace.The statement of Bajwa is very important keeping. In view the changing political dynamics around pakistan.As there is a new block in offering comparing pakistan,china,Russia,Iran. And turkey which will surely affect the political environment of sub continent.
    The importance of CPEC is known to all even Russia has shown it’s intrest to join this mega project the people who are claiming that it is failure should open there ears and eyes and see how it is developing day by day so it is inn Indias intrest to join this economic highway so that they should also reap the economic benefits.
    It is also a truth as far as kashmir dispute is there peace will Elude in sub continent,india by doing Unconstitutional act to abrogate the speacial status of j&k has done a strategic and legal blunder by inviting China into this dispute.
    I will conclude by only saying few words that it is in the best intrest of India to solve long standing dispute of Kashmir in its best interest and as far as pakistan is considered not think even a iota that it is a weak country the best instance is the operation Swift retreat shown by the in Feb 2019 so as they say seeing is believing..

  10. It’s a set up under US guidance to create a pretext for the resumption of massive US arms aid to Pakistan by its supporters in Biden govt.

  11. Dear sir,
    After defeating Pakistan in 1971 n capturing 83000 soldiers we could not level the issue of kashmir in a return deal. This time 19 march 2021 we can take in writting from pakistan that we have nothing to do with kashmir n our efforts to create a chaotic n terrorist activity is our blunder mistake. We accept in presence of UNO that fron 21 march 2021 we want make war n terrorist activity against india for any cause n speciaaly for kashmir.
    Gurugovind singh had said that they can swear as many times in front of Quran but DONT TRUST THEM. THEY ARE NOT WELCOMED IN ANY CORNER OF THE WORLD.
    THANKS MAYANK

  12. Pakistan government is puppet to pakistani army & pakistani army is puppet to china, now whom will you trust.

  13. I call this Lumpen Element – Bhadwa Bajwa. Why Bhadwa? Because this punk is on a self extension for 3 years as pukestani army chief. Not that I care. The guy who will take over from him could be Worse. He certainly won’t be better than this Bhadwa. It’s their DNA. Indra blundered at Simla.
    How many more times does India bury the Past?
    We want that Pig hafiz Saeed & Azar Mahmood. Dawood?
    Otherwise – Just Lay Off- bhadwa bajwa. He too will emigrate once his tenure is over.

  14. Pakistan is China’s military colony at the expense of pakistan people money.pakistan became a bankrupt country with huge military spending. Bejwa s words may be right as of now.
    But this country politicians , military, terror outfits lifeline is ,india hate, attitude. Each one compete s in Blame india game.
    Will they control themselves in future elections, economic crisis

    War is not solution ,peace is a failure without sincere realistic efforts ny all stake holders

  15. The history is repeating itself. They are talking peace so that India downgrades their defences and they get chance to strike.

    Peace talk will also bring them in International limelight which they are losing.

    They want to India’s support to come to world’s center stage.

    We should not fall in trap again. While there is no alternative but this is also not a option.

  16. 1. China is fed up with Pak as all the money thrown at CPEC has gone down the drain.
    2. Saudis and UAE have thrown out Pak workers. Very serious issue. Each expat supports a large family back in Pak.
    3. The Pak elite have given up on the country.
    4. Non-Muslims have emigrated. Industries have flaundered.
    4. India has become massively strong militarily.
    5. THE WORLD IS FED UP WITH JEHADI TERRORISM.

  17. I think pakistan has understood the Chinese policy that’s what’s why they are leaned towards india. But we should check check and check it properly because pakistani government is nothing without military..

  18. I agree with Mr Gupta’s assessment that hardly much comes out of the present government, unless it is leaked deliberately, so not many know of its thought process. Also, the present government does not do anything in a knee-jerk manner, it chooses its time. Certainly, government tries to give peace a chance and war is never an option of first choice. Unlike most commentariat that is steeped on cause and effect analysis, I think Modi government thinks deeply on many issues, they may have as much chance of getting things wrong, but it is certain this government thinks differently and not averse to risk taking if cost benefit is favorable.

  19. I agree with Mr Gupta’s assessment that hardly much comes out of the present government, unless it is leaked deliberately, so not many know of its thought process. Also, the present government does not do anything in a knee-jerk manner, it chooses its time. Certainly, government tries to give peace a chance and war is never an option of first choice. Unlike most commentariat that is steeped on cause and effect analysis, I think Modi government thinks deeply on many issues, they may have as much chance of getting things wrong, but it is certain this government thinks differently and not averse to risk taking if cost benefit is favorable.

  20. India doesn’t have time to waste on a failed country which has proved itself a living fossil of history. We need to focus only on Beijing.
    Pakistan was created just for Punjabi Sunni muslims, jamindars, their army officers and thug politicians.

    • Focus only on Beijing means ignore Islamabad?
      We must not make serious mistake by underestimating the Pakistani army. Pakistani now must have learnt from their defeats I guess.. wiping out the first enemy before the second enemy strikes is a better way to keep both of the warfrontlines safe.

  21. I agree with Mr Gupta’s assessment that hardly much comes out of the present government, unless it is leaked deliberately, so not many know of its thought process. Also, the present government does not do anything in a knee-jerk manner, it chooses its time. Certainly, government tries to give peace a chance and war is never an option of first choice. Unlike most commentariat that is steeped on cause and effect analysis, I think Modi government thinks deeply on many issues, they may have as much chance of getting things wrong, but it is certain this government thinks differently and not averse to risk taking if cost benefit is favorable.

  22. Without past there is no future. If they are really sincere for peace, first let them vacate all the Indian lands occupied after independence and handover them to India.

  23. Until Pakistan shelters people like dawood and the Mumbai attack terrorist leaders , this talk of peace is just eyewash. Pakistan is in a precarious place financially, with its western sponsors not ready to foot the bill any longer. China must be getting tired of pumping loans and aid into the bottomless pit that is Pakistan. The Chinese virus has added to the fatigue all over the world. Make no mistake, this is just a hiatus, the Chinese and porkies will attack once they again feel settled. What the Pakistani PM is saying is not that good relations with India should be pursued as a matter of policy, but that the Pakistanis are not in a position financially at the moment to pursue hostilities. Once they get another sponsor, the terrorist factories will be back in operation.

  24. “Militarily, diplomatically, politically or economically, achieving anything by force is out of the question.”

    My goodness. Such profundity. For incisive analysis like above, readers are so keen to support Print’s journalism!

    Shekhar Gupta’s fetish with Pakistan is a mystery. Maybe it’s got to do with trauma — when he and Chiddu were hiding in their closets during 26/11. Only to surface weeks later and start lighting candles at Wagah. Only utter cowards (like SG and MMS) and gullible (like Vajpayee) will take the treacherous Pakis for their word. Is it too hard to ignore Pakistan? A failed, malevolent state. Let it become China’s colony. Pakis: enjoy your bat soup.

  25. The state of Pakistan is inches away from being declared a failed state. This is what happens when you have people of immense brilliance, bravery, courage and resourcefulness taken advantage of by its own armed forces. The state is a broken shell and soon the steel spine that is the military will crumble too. No matter what G.Bajwa says, he is just a valve for his nation that needs to release some of the pressure that will cause it to implode in the near future.
    He is from a long line of previous Generals and elite who hide behind words when they are convinced it would be foolhardy to carry on with the same policies. The concept of peace when outnumbered is a very old technique among the elite in power. I’m not at all surprised to see the armed forces to now practice it so openly.
    I very much doubt G.B. is sincere. And I doubt very much that he has that breathing space. You see, in Pakistan, it is very much the ISI’s way or the highway. To London and onwards.

    But that is his problem. Our problem is that we don’t really benefit from any war, protracted or brief. We can win the war, no doubt about that. Right now, but 12 years down the line would be even better. We can deal with the nuclear fallout and loss of lives if we fail to intercept even one of those pesky tactical nuclear missiles.
    We don’t have to be so barbarous as to bomb this nation to the stone age. That only happens when you are projecting power from a far off continent and we are right next door.

    The achievement of giving independence to Baluchistan and Sindh will be sufficient to significantly reduce the potency of the neighbour’s armed forces. The country will break into West Punjab, North West Frontier Province, Baluchistan and Sindh. And that is sufficient for the sacrifice to be worth it.

    However, the sacrifice of defence personnel, civilians, materiel and money will be a monstrous tar pit that will need continued feeding perhaps for generations and generations, just like Kashmir, except on a national level.
    History teaches you that defeated nations will be your greatest enemies if you don’t quickly help them rise up again and teach them the right values along the way. And this is the crux of our problem.

    As S. rightly pointed out, G.B has a few nightmares at his border keeping him awake at nights. They may very well become our problems if his spine crumbles. Are we ready to become the steel spine of the West Punjab, Baluch and Sind Nations, is it worth our while to make war and assimilate the problems of this already failed nation?

  26. Never believe Pakistan better to try and merge it with India as no such state existed before partition. These are bunch of traitors

  27. See who are preaching to whom….😃😃 Pakistan and peace never coincides ….What Pakistan preached never follow….A state of “good for nothing” is talking of peace…..Pak ke napaak harkat .

  28. Paki and RSS both pathologic Liers. So Indian common people suffer. Time Indians keep at least this side of Border in Truth and Honesty.

    • Pakistan is down on the ground now follow the rule: NEVER HIT AMAN WHEN HE IS DOWN. KICK HIM.

    • There had been a great history to our neighbouring country where the military captured the government when the latter took decisions that would complex or badly affect the former. But it has been these many year i think since 2017 there had been capture of their government by military. So either the government would have taken hold of their military or vice versa.
      The former would be a good thing for india(but at the same time pak citizens were made more interested towards indian media esp republic channels,etc. You could find comments in youtube by pak citizens. Making them feel indian media is full of conspiracy, propoganda and every news is false. Some of them were made in such a way that even if republic tv says Pakistan pm is imran khan. The pak viewers were made to conform that imran is not pm of pak. Using it as a fact check ). The criticism of indian media by foreign agencies were highlighted. Pigeon capture story which many Indians dont know that it happend it was a breaking news in pak and criticism of news coverage is another big breaking news.
      If similiar incident happens in pak a pigeon tied with a ring on which phone number was written and then pigeon was released and lost its route went to Pakistan landed in a village what would they do they would hand it over to their army and news wouldnt have been covered but this was not sure as everyone have gadgets in their hands just take a video and share it in social media platforms. And their channels woulf have also telecasted the news giving descriptive about the pigeon. Had the foreign media which criticize indian media criticize the Pakistani one.??

      Are you sure that air balloons containing air were released into territory of india without any bacterial spores???

      Are you sure the empty envelopes that government offices get everyday are free of spores of bacteria??

      Dont say me i am an overthinker.

      It happend in USA and bacterial spores can be collected easily.

      The pak media highlighted the news where their minister wished for success of kejriwal in elections and did it highlight the news where kejriwal gave a wise slamming reply to that minister and pm of pak??

      So is pak media following the principles of true journalism and is not under hands of government??

      Is every anti- biased media or journalism a true journalism??

      If so yes, the american leaders of world war 2 condemned germans act of jewish genocide. So it must be very caring for life of humans. LOL the same leaders ordered to drop not one two nuclear bombs on japan.(anti genocidal = human caring😂😂).

    • Absolutely correct brother. Otherwise they don’t write this one-sided story. The print is not qualified for giving news. It is just a marketer of zihadi terrorists.

  29. Any body, who has heard current Pakistani NSA, Moeed Yusuf, since last so many years on Pakistani TV shows, knew that, as he has been inducted in the slot of NSA, Pakistani will change their stance. Things were falling in their places, for discerning eyes. China stopped CPEC loans, Pakistan stopped taking those loans on high interest. Chinese workers’ belligerence on the streets of Pakistan , was very uncomforting. Sky rocketing inflation and paucity of everything of daily necessity, the way Qamar Cheema and Arzoo Kazmi were allowed to criticize their own people, were indications enough to direct towards changed Pakistani thinking.

  30. It is very easy to criticise and disagree with views presented in the article. Those who criticise prefer the status quo to continue. In the meanwhile, the consequences of such status quoism can impinge upon India too. Pakistan becomes a vassal of China, an outcome that would be secretly or openly rejoiced by many Indians. But after Pakistan is finished who could be China’s next target? In the fag end of 18th century, the British defeated Tipu Sultan. Nizam and Marathas rejoiced and collaborated with the British. In the next decade both Nizam and Marathas were subjugated by the British. So, while distrusting Pakistan, we shouldn’t reject everything that it says. If we can develop a divide between Pakistan and China, we can use it to our advantage. There is no harm in trying. If nothing happens, status quo continues. Our attitude towards Pakistan is torn between two extremes: ‘ Khandani Dushman’ or ‘ Brother lost in Mela’. Hope that we show some maturity and deftly handle the situation. Obviously, no matter what we stand we take, caution and skepticism shouldn’t be discarded at any point of time. It is a tight rope walking, but India also has very limited options.

  31. Bombard LOC, send some of our Deobandis to cause havoc there. Let us see if they still want peace in 30 years!!!! You do not have to Bomb them to Stone age, you can ensure they do not economically develop to stone age!!!! All we need to do is block their economic development, ensure there is chaos by funding forces inimical to their interests. Give it a few decades they will just disintegrate into their parts!!! You do not get away with 7 decades of terrorism so easily. There ought to be tough lessons taught and learnt.

    • Pakis needed to be watched first past says that that they should not be trusted .they have history of back stabbing.they should be brought to knees economically then broken into parts before agreeing to their proposal of fake peace.

    • Dream on – Pakistan is not going to disintegrate! The % of Baluch population is very small even in Baluchistan and even among them the people who are making trouble is very small. The Sindhi movement- even if you can all it that – is even smaller. As far as economy is concerned – while the government is not good at managing it, the private sector in Pakistan is vibrant. Peace or not – we will be fine and you are NOT getting POK back.

  32. Well, we should also bury the past and create a new beginning. War and rivalry just gives birth to darkness and death. If India and Pakistan makes peace. Then, the future will be better. But, if Modi ji keeps the past alive. It will not make anything better no worse. What I think is something’s better than nothing. And 2 nations can help themselves hand in hand. Apparently, China made some bad decisions and made situations with India that no one appreciates. If Pakistan joins allies with us. Maybe, China will be suppressed for a good amount of time and in that time we can develop ourselves. No offense, but Modi ji is a bit of an arrogant figue.

    • It is sad that years and years of history haven’t taught us Indians our lessons. Despite all that they have done to us, there are armchair intellectuals in India pining to embrace Pakistan. Of course, they’ll react quite differently if someone were to accidentally even step on their toe. It’s true…. literacy doesn’t mean education.

  33. I too agree with many not to trust Pakistan. Only way to move forward is for Pakistan to take action against all the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks against India because it will show other future terrorists that terrorism is not worthwhile. It is also in a way Pakistan is admitting that they were wrong and future generations of Pakistanis and Pakistani politician won’t have anti-India rant and in turn hopefully making peace lasting. So for true peace Pakistan has to act strongly against Hafiz Sayeed, Massod Azar, Dawood Ibrahim, Sayed Salahudhin, Sajid Amir, Lakhvi, Chotta Shakeel, Annes Ibrahim. It would be even better if they handover few or all of them to us. But i would prefer instead of handing over the terrorists i would rather they first return to us Kulbhushan Jadhav. It would be a great boost to our forces and importantly India protected our great braves.

  34. I too agree with many not to trust Pakistan. Only way to move forward is for Pakistan to take action against all the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks against India because it will show other future terrorists that terrorism is not worthwhile. It is also in a way Pakistan is admitting that they were wrong and future generations of Pakistanis and Pakistani politician won’t have anti-India rant and in turn hopefully making peace lasting. So for true peace Pakistan has to act strongly against Hafiz Sayeed, Massod Azar, Dawood Ibrahim, Sayed Salahudhin, Sajid Amir, Lakhvi, Chotta Shakeel, Annes Ibrahim. It would be even better if they handover few or all of them to us. But i would prefer instead of handing over the terrorists i would rather they first return to us Kulbhushan Jadhav. It would be a great boost to our forces and importantly India protected our great braves.

  35. Dear Shekharji, like you said Distrust but verify, I think we (India) should be ok to play this charade for as long as it lasts, but at the same time not stop doing what we need to do, that is strengthen defence, LOC, counter infiltration ops and most importantly our economy. Every now and then leadership in Pakistan whether it is Rawalpindi or Islamabad depending on who has more leverage on whom, have an epiphany and realize that it is in the best interest of Pakistan (I mean the Pakistani people) to have peace with India. As you rightly pointed out, Bajwa sees the troubles on all fronts in Pakistan and realizes the need for some breathing space. While all governments in India even the BJP governments have initiated/tried to have peace, it has never worked and never will. I am not a skeptic and against peace but we have to be realistic. As I have said in my earlier comment, peace is possible only when some form of true democracy rises in Pakistan. As long it is run by Miltablishment it cannot be achieved. You see, it is not in hands of Bajwa, every time a General has tried to do same, he will eventually get sidelined. Core commanders will never allow it. They can allow a term extension, but how can they allow the core philosophy to be subverted, which is the basis of their entire power and control? Everyone in Rawalpindi wants their kids to be in west, why only few elites should get what they want, so the organization that is Pak Military will continue to strive, it has become an Conglomerate, a behemoth, and why will the people who run it ever dismantle it. India is just a bogey. If Bajwa continues on this path, don’t be surprised that in next few months Mitalblishment will find a way to scuttle it through some action in India and then we will respond and everything will be back to square.
    I give North Korea a better chance of turning a new leaf because atleast it is controlled by one family, you can deal with one family. With Pakistan, it is an Institution that you are up against, which has strived and only grown stronger in last 70 years, why will they allow it’s weakening from within? As for peace, jab tak chalna hai chalne doh!! No harm in that, but it will be stupidity on our part to believe in any long term normalcy or restore trade or aman ki asha!!

  36. Indian history remind us about peàce happened in past in this region only under true Muslim rulers and remember history repeat itself. No country surrenders it’s strategic area on just dialogue s. Did China captured ladhak by making peace dialogues? It’s never be the case in this real world. Bajwa spoke out Biden administration statement. Peace will only prevail under true Muslim rulers for this reason its nature’s will for the final battle between two nuclear powers. Whatever statement by current Pak administration about peàce dialogue with current Indian rulers will only for their own satisfaction it is nothing to do with nature’s will. All true Muslims belonging to any country are standing with Allah and Muhammad ﷺ Will for Ghazwa e Hind specially people of Pakistan and people of Turkey. No matter what force they big powers use, they can never have the ability to stand against Allah and Muhammad ﷺ Will.

    • That looks offensive. Please respect journalists.
      It is an opinion article so this may not be acceptable to someone some may feel it good. But please dont use such kind of words sir.

  37. Narrative in both directions need to change which is responsible for creating a hostel relations. Pakistan is more responsible for this than India.

  38. And sir who cares about your opinion and advise. Realise this and please stop preaching more cowardly behaviour

  39. With population of 40 crore Islamist Jehadis with little or no skills except interpretation of Islam and most of west tightly regulating borders general is playing smart trick, they cannot fight India using military on borders once inside india using soft borders politics will save them..Every time these Indian oldies start looking for emotional bonds with Pakis no wonder you have so many stabs on your ass, plz move on and ignore them till they bury Islam in Arabian sea..

    • You need to know that ruling class is never religious, Pakistan’s elite are atheists and agnostics,
      Ruling class always uses religion to fulfill their political agendas, just like BJP is doing in India..

  40. True if two India and Pakistan come to terms with each other; the region will prosper for better.

    • Why repeat what you day-dreamed three times? I am sure you have been one of the victims of those email scams promising money for nothing! Loser.

  41. It’s not in anybody’s interest, to go to war. True if two India and Pakistan come to terms with each other; the region will prosper for better.

  42. War won’t serve any purpose. It’s not in anybody’s interest, to go to war. True if two India and Pakistan come to terms with each other; the region will prosper for better.

  43. War won’t serve any ‘fruitful’ purpose. It’s not in anybody’s interest, to go to war. (Read India, China and Pakistan). True if two India and Pakistan come to terms with each other; the region will prosper for better. Pakistan should stop ISI activities in India. It has bleeded India far too long. This intention and action on ground will serve the purpose of peaceful coexistence. Any kind of rhetoric from both sides will prolong the process…

  44. A bankrupt Pakistan will automatically fall in line. Indians don’t need to waste time on these idiots.

  45. Read the history of previous peace initiatives offered by India. These were internally sabotaged by Pakistani Army previously. They can do it now even. They are after, lifting loan sanctions and getting out of FATF grey list. Peace with India us not in Pakistani mind. So do not take the Pakistani word seriously.

  46. 𝙼𝚛.𝚂𝙶.𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚘𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚎 𝚋𝚢 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚙𝚊𝚔 𝚐𝚎𝚗𝚎𝚛𝚊𝚕 𝚒𝚜 𝚍𝚒𝚌𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚎𝚍 𝚋𝚢 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚒𝚛 𝚖𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛- 𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚊,𝚝𝚘 𝚓𝚊𝚋𝚋𝚎𝚛 𝚊𝚋𝚘𝚞𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚒𝚗 𝚒𝚗𝚝’.
    𝚙𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚞𝚖 𝚝𝚘 𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚗 𝚋𝚛𝚘𝚠𝚗𝚢 𝚙𝚘𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚜.𝚃𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚌𝚘𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚢 𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚕 𝚋𝚎 𝚞𝚜𝚎𝚍 𝚝𝚘 𝚙𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚞𝚛𝚒𝚣𝚎 𝙸𝚗𝚍𝚒𝚊 𝚝𝚒𝚖𝚎 𝚝𝚘 𝚝𝚒𝚖𝚎 𝚒𝚗 𝚏𝚞𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚎.𝚙𝚊𝚔𝚒𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚗 𝚖𝚊𝚢 𝚋𝚎 𝚒𝚗𝚌𝚕𝚒𝚗𝚎𝚍 𝚝𝚘 𝚐𝚎𝚝 𝚊𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚐 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝙸𝚗𝚍𝚒𝚊 𝚜𝚘𝚖𝚎 𝚑𝚘𝚠 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚗 𝚊𝚐𝚊𝚒𝚗𝚜𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚘𝚜𝚎 𝚑𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚌𝚘𝚛𝚎 𝚏𝚞𝚗𝚍𝚊𝚖𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚜𝚝𝚜’ 𝚊𝚐𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚊𝚜. 𝙱𝚞𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚒𝚛𝚘𝚗 𝚋𝚛𝚘𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝚘𝚗’𝚝 𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚘𝚠 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚜𝚎
    𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙𝚜 𝚝𝚘 𝚖𝚊𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚒𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚣𝚎.𝚙𝚊𝚔 𝚒𝚜 𝚊 𝚙𝚊𝚠𝚗 𝚒𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚑𝚊𝚗𝚍𝚜 𝚘𝚏 𝙷𝚊𝚗.𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚊 𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚕 𝚗𝚘𝚝 𝚋𝚕𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚝𝚠𝚒𝚌𝚎,𝚝𝚘 𝚙𝚞𝚝 𝚙𝚊𝚔 𝚒𝚗 𝚊 𝚐𝚕𝚘𝚛𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚎𝚍 𝚟𝚒𝚌𝚎 𝚝𝚘 𝚔𝚎𝚎𝚙 𝚒𝚝𝚜 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚝𝚜 𝚞𝚙 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚟𝚎.
    𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚊 𝚒𝚜 𝚏𝚊𝚝
    𝚎𝚗𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚙𝚊𝚔 𝚊𝚜 𝚊 𝚏𝚞𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚎 𝚜𝚊𝚌𝚛𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚒𝚊𝚕 𝚕𝚊𝚖𝚋,𝚃𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚎𝚖𝚏𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚗𝚎𝚍 𝚕𝚊𝚖𝚋 𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚕 𝚋𝚕𝚎𝚊𝚝 𝚒𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚝𝚞𝚗𝚎 𝚘𝚏 𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚊 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚋𝚢 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚝𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚒𝚌𝚜 𝚘𝚏 𝚕𝚘𝚊𝚗 𝚝𝚛𝚊𝚙𝚜 𝚎𝚝𝚌. 𝚔𝚎𝚎𝚙 𝚙𝚊𝚔 𝚖𝚞𝚖 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚋𝚕𝚒𝚗𝚍 𝚜𝚘 𝚒𝚝 𝚠𝚘𝚗’𝚝 𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚜𝚎 𝚒𝚝’𝚜 𝚟𝚘𝚒𝚌𝚎 𝚊𝚋𝚘𝚞𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚖𝚊𝚕𝚝𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚖𝚎𝚝 𝚘𝚏 𝚄𝚖𝚖𝚊𝚜 𝚒𝚗 𝚇𝚒𝚗𝚓𝚒𝚊𝚗𝚐 𝚙𝚛𝚘𝚟𝚒𝚗𝚌𝚎,𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚋𝚢 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚐𝚛𝚊𝚌𝚎 𝚘𝚏 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚋𝚕𝚞𝚎 𝚎𝚢𝚎𝚍 𝚋𝚘𝚢 𝚘𝚏 𝚄𝚖𝚖𝚊𝚜 𝚜𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚌𝚎 𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚕 𝚔𝚎𝚎𝚙 𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚝 𝚘𝚏 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚄𝚖𝚖𝚊𝚜 𝚒𝚗 𝚊𝚗
    𝚒𝚗𝚎𝚛𝚝 𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚎 .𝚃𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚒𝚜 𝚠𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚊 𝚠𝚊𝚗𝚝𝚜.𝚙𝚊𝚔’𝚜 𝚎𝚌𝚘𝚗𝚘𝚖𝚢,𝚍𝚎𝚏𝚎𝚗𝚌𝚎,𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚏𝚘𝚛𝚎𝚒𝚐𝚗 𝚙𝚘𝚕𝚒𝚌𝚢 𝚎𝚝𝚌.𝚊𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚗 𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚊’𝚜 𝚌𝚘𝚗𝚝𝚛𝚘𝚕.𝙸𝚗𝚍𝚒𝚊 𝚗𝚎𝚎𝚍𝚜 𝚝𝚘 𝚌𝚘𝚗𝚝𝚊𝚒𝚗 𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚊 𝚒𝚗 𝚒𝚝𝚜 𝚘𝚠𝚗 𝚐𝚊𝚖𝚎 𝚋𝚢 𝚖𝚒𝚖𝚒𝚌𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚒𝚝𝚜 𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚜𝚘𝚖𝚎 𝚏𝚞𝚗𝚍𝚊𝚖𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚊𝚕 𝚌𝚑𝚊𝚗𝚐𝚎𝚜 𝚝𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚝𝚝𝚕𝚎 𝚙𝚊𝚔 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚎𝚎 𝚒𝚝𝚜 𝚘𝚠𝚗 𝚐𝚘𝚘𝚍 𝚒𝚗 𝚊 𝚍𝚒𝚏𝚏𝚎𝚛𝚎𝚗𝚝 𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚜𝚎.𝙰𝚜 𝚙𝚊𝚔 𝚒𝚜 𝚍𝚛𝚞𝚐𝚐𝚎𝚍 𝚋𝚢 𝚃𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚜 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚒𝚛 𝚟𝚒𝚜𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚒𝚜 𝚏𝚘𝚐𝚐𝚎𝚍 ,𝚜𝚘 𝙸𝚗𝚍𝚒𝚊 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚞𝚕𝚍 𝚝𝚛𝚢 𝚝𝚘 𝚌𝚕𝚎𝚊𝚛 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚍𝚛𝚞𝚐 𝚒𝚗𝚍𝚞𝚌𝚎𝚍 𝚟𝚒𝚜𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚘𝚏 𝚙𝚊𝚔 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚎𝚎 𝚒𝚝𝚜 𝚏𝚞𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚗 𝚊 𝚌𝚕𝚎𝚊𝚗 𝚜𝚕𝚊𝚝𝚎.𝙱𝚞𝚝
    𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚍𝚎𝚙𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚜 𝚘𝚗 𝚌𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚊’𝚜 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚛𝚝𝚎𝚗𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚘𝚏 𝚕𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝 𝚢𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚜 𝚙𝚕𝚊𝚗𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚊𝚋𝚘𝚞𝚝 𝚙𝚊𝚔.

  47. When I like the dish, do not enter the kitchen to check how it was rustled up. 2. Peace – not friendship, perhaps not in our lifetimes – between India and Pakistan is something both countries desperately need. Covid has pushed 75 million Indians into poverty, shrunk the middle class – much smaller than McKinsey reports routinely extol – by 32 million people. Before the pandemic, household consumption had begun to contract, a decades old trend of falling poverty had begun to reverse ominously. Children are stunted, government schools lack toilets and drinking water. Pakistan, once ahead of India, has joined us in trailing Bangladesh. 3. One does not have to be the statesman – soldier General V P Malik is to recognise that no change in the borders can be effected by force. Or how a conventional conflict could spiral into something far worse. Recall the nuclear mobilisation to speed up the release of a captured pilot. 4. This entire war like mood that was rustled up for political advantage will have to be tempered. Gaurav Sawant could trade in his flak jacket for a chef’s apron, do a cookery show, the first episode featuring spicy Kolhapuri mutton curry. 5. One is not sure where China figures in this changed situation. Ladakh too was a watershed moment that could have gone either way. 6. With so many startling initiatives not having worked out well – Demonetisation at the top of the list – unclear if opacity in decision making should any longer be seen as a great virtue. All Indians have a stake in war and peace. So maybe next time I should enter the kitchen and check with senior maid Lalita how the chicken turned out so divine.

    • I will sue for peace if that will save me from your moronic blabberings! You are prime candidate for those email scams promising a fortune from a deceased African dictator.
      Naive, stupid and always craving for taalis — that’s how your comments are always.

      • Thank you. This makes it Comment # 100, the only century I can hope to score, not having held a cricket bat in my life.

  48. Pakistan is desperate to talk due to FATF and it’s economic condition . They know there are enough pseudoliberals in Bharat with a soft corner towards Pakistan . It’s always better to negotiate with us than China or any other country in world because of Mir Jaffers of our country . We Sud never talk to them unless some concrete actions are taken by them . For example – dismantling the Jihadi infrastructure , handing over the accused of Mumbai,Uri,Pathankot and Pulwama attacks .

  49. Pre partition muslim league ask British just give us land to balance out feet Rest we will snatch from Hindustan . After pakistan their slogan was Hans Hans ke liye he pakistan laad laad ke lenghe Hindustan . Pakistani PM after signing Shimla Agreement , where he promised to solve all disputes peacefully we t back to pakistan & declared 1000 yrs war with India. In pakistan parliament it’s leaders declared we will eat grass but will build nuclear weapons.

    • Thanks to British stooges congress & MK Gandhi that their dream is coming true!! They along with voters of Pakistan were the brown British slaves par excellence!!

  50. This article could have written in any time in the last 25 years with the names changed to the relevant generals. Nothing is going to come out of it. SG is really confused whether to sound too optimistic or realistic. He starts with the disclaimer about these sorts of utterances having come before but suddenly goes on (at length) about Modi’s thought process about Pakistan and war in general. Why should Modi change his opinion that Pakistan is not a state to be trusted and India gains almost nothing from Pakistan. We will go about our business as a country while handling terrorism sponsored by Pakistan. Why would Modi rock the boat? Why would he want take the risk of talking with Pakistan, only to get another terrorist attack? Why would he want to hear from the same SG types who would blame the government, “intelligence failure”, “naivete” , “being unprepared” while this no-war, no-peace stance is working perfectly well for him. I want to see for once an article in the mainstream media that discusses foreign policy without psycho-analyzing the leadership. Every article talks with absolute certitude about “Modi has realized this”, “Modi has realized that” without offering evidence. It is all in the authors’ mind.

  51. In this case the past is a guide to the future. There is no point in wasting tax payers money on talking to Pakistan. Just because the author can think only binaries, doesn’t mean there are no other choices. India doesn’t have to either be talking or bombing Pakistan. There is an option of indifference whilst guarding our borders. No need to talk but no need for snipers or artillery firing as well. More important to beef up our intelligence and not get caught unawares like ,26/11 or Uri, Pathankot, Pulwama, Kargil etc. Let Pakistan stew in it’s own juice as it makes it’s own choices. No need for enemity or bonhomie. Just guard India’s borders and internal security.

  52. You are a stupid moronic shit sg you fool pakistan ass licker pseudo secular trash. We Indians hate the print and bbc

    • SG, 90% of Indian media like congressi @The Print are really sick pseudo seculars inspired by the moron MK Gandhi!! They have been spilling Hindu blood since decades & created a terrorist nation next door while keeping Paki voters/traitors in India!! Their moronic,, unsustainable secularism has to end!!

  53. We all know how the peace process ended for Vajpayee and MMS. They were rewarded with a parliament attack and 26/11. Also, it’s not like Modi did try to attempt peace. Modi had a cordial relationship with Nawaz Sharif but the Pak Army got rid of him. Pak Army uses the “India” boogeyman to collect extortion money from its citizen. They would never give up their feud with India esp now that they think they have Afghanistan back in their control.

  54. First thing Print is supporting Pakistan and everyone knows that.

    Print hates BJP and hindu everyone knows thats the thing is someday you will be shut and i pray for that

    • Absolutely correct!! All Anti Hindu & anti India sold out congressi media must be shown the door to their mother land Pakistan!!

  55. The devastated Germany rebuilding after the WWII realised that was the peace with neighbours was the only way forward despite being beaten into submission. Once the USSR control started diminishing the East German also fell in line.
    Pakistan is a different story with the Islamisation and Chinese support. Even so the population pressure must be more to get out of this mess in the name of India, is something that the rulers cannot ignore the fatigue in the population must be very obvious.
    The 5th Aug is not selling anymore in Pakistan. Any logic will supports peace between the two neighbours. But how much we can trust PAkistan will always remain the question.

  56. New Generations in both Pakistan and India – do not like wars.
    Ultimately in another fifty years, the peace loving citizens on both sides would end wars and create new friendship and cooperation.
    That is sure to happen.
    The elders only hanging on religions.
    For youngesters – the religion is not so important when compared with their jobs, professional groeth,and mental peace.
    Next generations would realize the truth that religions are not created to fight one another. It is created TO UNITE AND SHOW LOVE TO FELLOW HUMANS.

    • The leaders are making sure to inject venom into younger generations, so its a slippery slope, in the urban youth religion is on a decline so its a good sign…
      We’ll see what the future will hold in next 20 years,
      I think India is walking on the same trajectory as that of US,
      Religious Extremism in India will automatically decrease when the population literacy improves…

    • The leaders are making sure to inject venom into younger generations, so its a slippery slope, in the urban youth religion is on a decline so its a good sign…
      We’ll see what the future will hold in next 20 years,
      I think India is walking on the same trajectory as that of US,
      Religious Extremism in India will automatically decrease when the population literacy improves…

  57. Pakistan doesn’t want peace with India.

    Best course of action for India –
    1. Don’t talk to Pakistan, not now not ever.
    2. Let their actors visit India and work in Indian movies.
    3. Don’t reinstate cricketing ties (as playing cricket with them helps PCB economically).
    4. Keep our boots on their neck – meaning any shenanigan from their part and make sure they pay heavy price militarily.
    5. Make sure they remain economically weak.
    6. Try to see that Sindhustan/Sindhudesh, Balochistan, and Pakhtunistan are getting independence from Punjabistan.

  58. the only possible solution is to accept the status quo as final settlement and legalize LOC. this may be more acceptable to indians. we must try to build a consensus around this solution. but the problem is congress will veto it if bjp proposes it and vice versa. at the same time giving up kashmir after 75 years is not a luxury that we can afford .
    as far as pakistanis are concerned, they are fed on the slogan”kashmir banega pakistan” for so many years. so for them to accept the status quo may be a huge climbdown. moreover pakistani army has thrived on anti india sentiments. do they have a statesman like leadership to give up its pre eminent role in the country? very unlikely.
    so, back to square one.

    • We ahould consider the offer only if he returns Kulbhushan Jadhav,hands over Dawood,Saeed to prove his sincerity.

  59. Compering Nehru’s action at that time and Modi’s inaction is like compering apple to oranges. Wars were common in those days and there were little learnings about the outcome of a war. But author has rightly said war can’t solve problems now and substantiated it well with example.

  60. Shekhar was feeling out of sorts as for last one year, we sidelined Pakistan and primarily dealt with China. He is back in his sickular avatar as soon as that Bajwa ‘bajaoed’ peace tunes!

    Let us be clear -1 – Art 370 is done and dusted. Is Pakistan ready to recognize J&K and Ladakh as Indian UTs? 2- Next, what offer Pakistan has about POK including GB where we can discuss something? 3- Will Pakistan stop sending terrorist in India? 4- Will Pakistan Parliament as well as current and future Army chiefs are ready to endorse the deals with India?

    If these four questions are not answered, we can have any sweet dialogue with Pakistan but will achieve anything. But on and off, we will tactical peace between two DGMOs!

    Perhaps Bajwa’s days are numbered or China asked them to cool a bit or Pakistan realized that it is getting trapped into China tentacles, Perhaps wisdom has dawned on Pakis that economic development is possible only when it achieves peace with India- how does it matter to us?

    We have dealt firmly with China and rightly, Pakistan is now no more an issue for us, except for terrorism and ISI activities. We are ready to deal on fronts, even if it costs us a lot. In days ahead, our capability and capacity will only increase faster than Pakistan or China. If India cannot take back Aksai Chin by force, so also China cannot move an inch ahead by force. With S-400 coming in and new weapons we have and being developed, PAF and Pak Navy will be immobilized. We will have complete dominance over Pakistan.

    Shekhar and Barkhas or the likes can keep talking Pakistan endlessly but he may find there are simply no takers ( as audience or financiers) any more!

  61. PAK ARMY terror infrastructure in Pakistan is intact. Terror organisations like LET N JAISH E MOHAMMED are a mask PAK ARMY wears while carrying out terror attacks in INDIA so that the PAK ARMY cannot be blamed.

    THE education system in pakistan which is geared towards producing jihadist instead of scientific thoughtful individuals is basically a anti HINDU jihadist factory.

    If PAK ARMY is serious than the population has to be re-educated in modern scienctific education and pakistan must abandon religious education from madrassas. Perhaps after this education system is implemented we can discuss peace with pakistan 20 years down the line.

    After the BJP GOVERNMENT under MODIJI decided to retaliate against terrorism emanating from pakistan, PAK ARMY has realised that terrorist attacks inside INDIA is no longer a option. So has china.

    They have realised it’s better to rely on jihadist and ultra left wing radicals and church supported naxalites to create chaos and bloodshed in INDIA.

    With a radicalized minority opposing modern scienctific education and population control measures INDIA is facing a threat to it’s urge to become a modern scientifically educated and prosperous nation.

  62. In essence, what you are saying is “Pakistan is stretching hits hand of friendship and peace. Take it, even if cautiously”. Do you know, Hand Shake arose out of showing to the new friend that the person carries no weapons in his hands? A reassurance to the other party. But, Pakistan’s weapons are already inside India, such as subverters, ideological supporters, communalists masquarading as intellectuals. Even if Pakistan stops exporting terrorists to India, their breed is already here in India.

    Ultimate solution to Kashmir problem will be “Finder keeps”. Pakistan keeps PoK and India keeps “IHK” as Pakistanis put it. Notwithstanding Amit Shah’s famous proclamation to give life to get back PoK and Axai Chin, it is not going to happen. With China also, it is better to concede Axai Chin to China so that India can consolidate its hold on Arunachal Pradesh.

  63. Very boring gibberish. Few sensible lines worthy of a child’s school essay. SG needs to declutter his mind — check into a Punjabi spa. Using Modi in headline is desperately craving for eyeballs. Pathetic.

  64. Till Pakistan returns PoK back to India and treats it’s minorities fairly particularly Sindh, there is no chance of peace.

  65. Modi is winning election after election in the name of Pakistan. It is a bounty that keeps giving – nothing unites BJP supporters more than to point out how “tough” Modi is on Pakistan (and Muslims by extension) He ain’t gonna give up on it unless something big comes his way like recognition of LOC as border.
    We have heard generals in power from Pakistan say all this before – wait till one of the ambitious junior generals deposes this one or sends some fidayeen sleeper cells across – all this talk will vanish like smoke.
    Only thing which will work in my opinion is to educate, assimilate and ensure that Muslims in India prosper – economically and more importantly socially. Muslims seen to be doing well in a Hindu majority country will put immense pressure on Pakistan and the Middle-East to reform and march to modernity together.

    • What’s wrong with pok or local aksai chin com ming into India’s territory it was ours they forcefully grabbed it and no conversation of returning back don’t be Pakistan’s or chinas puppet

    • Lol!! Who voted for & created Pakistan?? Did these traitor voters stay back in India to drink Gaumutra & bolster India’s national strength or was it the same sick Islamic mindset at play??

    • Ha!! Ha!! What about Pakistan killing & converting Hindus & Sikhs 24/7?? When will they leave their dirty & evil communal desert mindset?? Same goes for Bangladesh and Indians who voted for Pakistan but stayed in India!!

  66. No one is kid enough to understand Pakistan drama. Unless Pak dismental it’s terror infrastructure, how come it comes out of grey list and have peaceful relationship with India? Do one think pak is willing to do it now? As per recent information by indian govt, there is increase in infiltration and border shelling incidents in last few years. Clearly, pak is still trying to push terrorists in India.It means is terror infra is well in place, as a part of Pak’s policy. How come India ignore this fundamental fact and fall in line with statement by fauji generals of rogue nation, who are master minding the whole policy ? By dismantling the terror infra, by complying with FATF’s instructios and by coming out of grey list, Pak first walk the talk , which requires policy shift, not an easy task as talk.

  67. A logical conclusion. A very important and pertinent subject, which the Nation needs to debate. Nobody can win a war any longer anywhere in the World. But let us not be under any illusion. To be in a commanding position, looking West, East or North, we do need a strong military. If we are forced to take overt military protection in any way from anybody, we will only grow weaker and suffer in the long run – Germany and japan did it decades ago. It was then. The environment is different now. And you may have realised India is not Germany or Japan in size and character.

    Tail piece: Building a Nation is more than just about “ripped jeans” nor about the similar comment (on a dress) of a “million dollar suit”. Let the Nation (and the media) not lose sleep on such frivolous issues.

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