New Delhi: The Chinese troops have “come in” about 3 km into Indian territory South East of the Galwan Valley, largely known as Hot Springs area in eastern Ladakh.
Sources in the know told ThePrint that Beijing has also moved in men at the “finger areas” of Pangong Lake while increasing build up on its side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC). The Pangong Lake’s northern bank juts forward like a palm, and the various protrusions are identified as “fingers” to demarcate territory.
Sources said that contrary to inputs of a large Chinese troop presence at Galwan Valley, the build-up is within the Chinese Claim Line (CCL), which is also considered as the LAC at local level.
Sources say that in Galwan, the CCL and the LAC are the same though no maps have been exchanged. They said that the understanding is at local level and Chinese objections to construction activities well within Indian territory was a surprise.
India has done “mirror deployment” on its side, in that it has matched every Chinese move.
However, the Chinese have come in near Patrol Point 14, 15 and the Gogra Post, which is 80 km South East of Galwan Valley, as crow flies, and is between the valley and Pangong Lake.
Sources told ThePrint that the Chinese have not crossed their CCL in these areas but they did accept that these areas are about 3 km within India’s perception of the LAC.
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‘No maps in the area’
The patrol points in these areas are named by numbers and Indian troops, a mix of Army and the ITBP personnel, patrol these points from time to time.
“No maps have been exchanged in this area between India and China demarcating what is the LAC,” a source explained. “Whatever understanding that is there is between the two Army at local level.”
Sources also underlined that there has not been any build-up in these areas besides the ones done earlier this month.
As reported by ThePrint, Chinese have brought in a large number of Border Defence Regiment (BDR) troops at various positions along the LAC. About 1,200-1,300 troops have come in at multiple locations even though the figures have varied.
ThePrint had also reported that Indian soldiers kept in reserve areas are being used to match up and reserves are being filled in. Sources said that India too has moved troops in these areas along with logistics set up which includes tents.
Acclimatisation is essential for deployment in these areas, which are above 14,000 feet.
Finger area domination is worrisome
While India asserts that the LAC starts at Finger 8, the Chinese claim it starts at Finger 2.
During the Kargil battle when troops were diverted from the area to fight Pakistan, China had stepped in and built a motorable road at Finger 4.
Sources said India, which “dominates” Finger 2, has been trying to construct a road further over the past few years that would have provided soldiers with the capability to move in vehicles and faster.
“The Chinese have built roads. So let us say that while Chinese troops would take about 15 minutes to reach a point, we would take about two and half hours. The road construction was happening between Finger 2-3,” a source said.
Following the clash on 5 February, the Chinese have moved in larger numbers of soldiers and vehicles to cut off Indian patrol capability.
While India claims the LAC is at Finger 8, the patrol used to take place up until about Finger 5 and anything beyond was always challenged.
Sources said that the importance of the finger area to the Chinese is that if they come west of Finger 4, they will have direct observation of Lukung, where Indian patrol boats are kept.
Moreover, they will be able to observe all of India’s movement in the Northern Bank and towards Marsmikla among others.
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This is my worst nightmare..The Chinese are doing just what the British did..As of now the princely states don’t exist to be manipulated..But China is manipulating both Pakistan and India to fight one another..Don’t forget we were one country known as Akhand Bharat / Hindustan ( literally One during Gupta Period and then in theory all the way through Mamluk,Tuglaq,Khilji,Lodi,Mughal,Nawabi and Maratha era) Then the British came and pitted all princely states among themselves like Rajputs against Mughals,Mughals against Marathas ,Sikh against Afghans etc..after literally Buying Bengal by bribing the Bengali Wazir(Prime minister) and in the process most of their army .. in the end they annexed all of Bharat..
Today only 2 major states exist in Bharat I.e India and Pakistan and China is going through the same process..Bought out Nepal getting them to Manipulate Indian territory to divide Indian army on 3 fronts (Nepal, China and Pakistan) , Now they will Cause war / Terrorism between India and Pakistan and once it gets a weak void to attack from will attack Both of them..this tim not for total annexation but to cut them both down to size and prove its supremacy..and Annexing North of Vietnam , All of Hongkong and Taiwan and parts of Kashmir and Ladakh states of India and Parts of Pakistan (China is stabbing everyone in the back so we cannot say when they will betray Pakistan) to its advantage..So my point is that we must think rationally..Both India and Pakistan..China is doing it as such as it knows.. If India and Pakistan attack as one..it won’t win..war may end in stalemate but not Chinese Victory…I would recommend all Bharatiyas(Both Indians and Pakistanis) to think over this..
Why can’t we get along? Put religious beliefs aside and join together against an imperialist China who has total disregard and disrespect for others life, liberties and possessions!
Nice trick
Only slapping and punching Chinese here will not help, Indian forces must give a stern warning to pla to get out of Indian territory. We must not take this lightly. Options of capturing these Chinese soldiers must also be open. These Chinese have gone crazy because of bashing from all over the world and now bullying every country as much as possible. We must kill this Chinese dogs before it bites
Only slapping and punching Chinese here will not help, Indian forces must give a stern warning to pla to get out of Indian territory. We must not take this lightly. Options of capturing these Chinese soldiers must also be open. These Chinese have gone crazy because of bashing from all over the world and now bullying every country as much as possible. We must kill this Chinese dogs before it bites.
They have already bitten us
Don’t worry chinks will run back after few more punches to their flat noses. They have been doing this historically . It’s time to repeat 1967. Chinks are helpless as India intervenes in Taiwan and POK. CPEC is in danger. This is just Chinese frustration. Good work India building up roads along LAC . AirDrop more and more troops and vehicles , these little chinks will run away it’s in their blood.
India the rape capital of the world…first these toiletless ppl were raping eachother..now they have started enjoying it and want china and pakistan to g…g bang them
Great Chinese Army?
Can you imagine how Chinese Army will beat Indians, that’s amazing really impressive..!!
Why didn’t Modi-Shah welcome Chinese troops with Garland when they are in already India’s territory. 3 to 5 km. Just imagine if Pakistan were in their place.
What’s going on in India against Muslims and don’t forget Kashmiries have their right suppressed by the indians. No one has the right in this world to stop anyone from living freely. The cruelty in IOK everyone knows. I personally saw with my eyes what happened to Indian jets on 27th Feb. Indian media was all liars made me laugh really. Only time will tell who’s where but India can never stand against china or win against Pakistan any war. Modi has made India a disgraceful country further.
Pakistanis have completely and utterly failed to advance the Kashmir agenda on the international stage, which is why Khan is barking like a mad dog on Twitter in recent days, to vent his frustration. You can keep brining up 27 Feb all you want, to us it is but one small data point, we know how meekly you have accepted the change to Kashmir’s special status, and we know what your own little dirty secrets in Balochistan and KP are.
Tell that to your Chinese friends who usurped the freedom of Tibet and Sinkiang …..and you terrorized East Pakistan , forgot 1971? You lost heavily and 98000 surrendered to only 17000! Ask Niazi what happened ?
You are beggars of the world , asking money from everyone and paying terrorists to attack everyone’s freedom .
You can hardly talk about freedom ! Ask China about freedoms ! You could not manage East Pakistan ! You want Kashmir ?aha ha ha ha h ah, keep on dreaming! India is about the attack you and seize Pak occupied Kashmir ! Better think about that !
Your own land is Indian , your own Muslim people still pray to Hindu Gods in hiding , as they know that their fore fathers were Hindus …..ah ah ah ah ha ha ha …
Well friends it’s sad how much we hate each other, have you all thought all our comments and feelings are meant just for here.
Okay Pakistan, China great nations, India very bad nation BUT FRIENDS THE TRUTH IS THAT TH CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG AT LADAKH, WHO WILL BACK OFF WE WILL ALL SEE FOR OURSELVES.
Matter of common sense just sit back and think this time we will have a result for sure just imagine if China moves back, then every country it’s own neighbour’s will start wars with China and for India it has nothing to loose AS WITH THERE CHEST AND HEADS HIGH THE INDIAN ARMY IS JUST WAITING FOR THE MUSIC TO START AND PLEASE READ HISTORY HERE THE PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA MR MODI HAS A BACKING OF 100 PERCENT INDIANS.
So bottom line things will not be so easy for the Chinese Army as they are facing an ARMY WHICH IS BATTLE HARDENED.
So friends I wish The great people of Pakistan and China good luck as for Indians its there own Karma and if India is right in there cause not that Chinese will back off but eventually will lead to freedom of Tibet, Entire POK and Hong Kong not to miss Baluchistan.
So friends, Cheers the best one will win, its a social platform and even the soldiers want us us to maintain a proper decorum as a respect to them, they fight for the there respective nations and we should make our discussions without giving any dis respect to those soldiers at the war front.
Right.Well said.
Ur daddy told u lie India beat pak four time and we never fear against china…
Lol. U pakis are a joke. Go get a life losers
And that’s when you woke up…..
Broo India won many wars against Pakistan .if China announces the war then Russia and usa surely gives support to India . Russia more than enough for that covidchina .
Broo India won many wars against Pakistan .if China announces the war then Russia and usa surely gives support to India . Russia more than enough for that covidchina .
Low level muslim filth
Shut up the nonsense …will you… for heaven sake.
Nisar Khan..Are you stupid? Or perhaps deceiving your own intellect.
India beat Pakistan and within weeks, would have won the war with China, had Nehru kept his nerve.
Ever head of a country called Bangladesh?
No country should start a war until all its citizens have flush toilets.
So that leaves both countries on hiatus for war
White people should stop preaching others,when all thier wealth is looted , especially india, you people are the reason they don’t have flush at home, your people robbed them of everything.
U Muslims are terrorist
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After kargil intrusion and a low scale confrontation between Pakistan and indian forces this conflict is of high significance.. Delhi and beijing must adopt political mean rather then inclining towards traditional military option… Because a confrontation between two giants will result into catastrophe…
I would say ‘Soch samajh ke punch kerna chahiye tha’ because on average a Bollywood movie ends in 3 hours but in reality one’s actions have their short-term and long-term reprecussions, especially when dealing with a bigger and powerful country. :).
You indians have a big mouth. Talk is cheap, we’ve seen that when you call abhinandan a hero for failing the mission and then the faking the f16 when the US had confirmed that there’s no pakistani f16 missing. You’re being manipulated by your government. Your history books are full of lies. We here want only peace, but if you push us you know what we can do specially now when you’ve got abhinandan to tell you tales about how pakistan army was generous to him.
The crash was fantastic
Which country mouth are you carrying , small (chinky ) or terrorist (paki)?
Let’s not forget abhinandan and what a disaster it was. Us pakistanis don’t want any war, but if you indians keep pushing us we will strike hard. Pakistani army is well trained and well prepared for anything. Talking about numbers, america couldn’t nail any results in Afghanistan despite being super power so the numbers don’t matter much as long as the troops are well trained. You indians have a big mouth and you never use facts in your arguments. Your history books are filled with lies and your government manipulates you at every level. Still no hard feelings from here. Our religion teaches to live in harmony.
Madrassachap illiterate your frustration with your coward,stupid pak army is visible as you are ranting your fake ispr propaganda here without any head & tail.We have defeated & HUMILIATED your army in all 4 wars & fed biryani to your 90,000+ coward soldiers who surrendered to us to save their own miserable lives.You stupid pakis are celebrating as if you won WW-3 ,whereas your PAF Chief Mehdi during 99-kargil war was himself shot down & beaten up by our soldiers in a dogfight in 71.Dont worry about us you chinaal pimp,we will take care of your chinki father too.
Just wait and watch you filthy indian, you will all be burned soon, your meat will crack like chicken when your cities will be nuked, you indians have a great deal of filth in your minds and hearts, but the curses from the opressed kashmiris will soon bring you all to an end. Your army is worse than any army in the world they can only opress the poor kashmiris, your army does have guts to fight any army of today’s world.
Sasha..Your talking out of your backside.
That’s putting it politely.
Pakistan can easily win India as it did in the past wars!! Ha…ha….ha
War will destroy the economy and poverty will engulf the developing countries. Pakistan should try to improve their country without comparing India!
We are with you army, in case of war, we’ll die proudly for BHARAT.
Gand pe goli pare to bhagna mat
Pakistani samjha hai kya,jinke 90,000+ ne gand pai goli lagne se bachane ke liye humare samne surrender kiya tha??
India was helping China when it was battling covid. China meanwhile released the virus and is now taking over land instead of helping.
Make up your mind, first it was the Thablkhis that were spreading the Virus now the Chinese, you Indians are full of cow piss
Fighting a movie in Bollywood is different than in real world.
I would Indians to reduce watching movies and spend more time on physical training… not to forget … feed your soldiers… they look like starving and malnourished…
Wars are not won by boasting around… times have changed .. especially in last 10 years or so
At least we don’t Beg To Other For Simple Food.. U have sold of Half of ur Country.. Right from Port to Defence.. Now Even Ur Highway.. I can Earn lots By Making ur Women Stand on Chinese Highway.. And now we Are seeing that ur Women are being Sold off to Chinese Buyers.. After That’s The Last thing That’s left, that Chinese must be Interested in buying..
As always, these short heighted Chinese will try to occupy Indian land illegally, and then move back.
India illegally occupy kashmir, not respecting wish of people.
Let’s not Pakistani resolve to Nuke New Delhi in case of Indian misadventure. It’s not just threat rather Standing operating procedure of Pakistan army.
All good because India is gaining a vast amount of business right now as big corps jump ship in China because of Covid . On that end of things I’m happy India can expand with some of the new things brewing up in their economy. China needs to be blacklisted as we do with North Korea. Time we shut them out of it all.
India is way backward , no infrastructure, no bench marking, no option. China is toying knowingly. Humiliation,.
Changez K before the war could start Pakistanis will die of starvation and I’m planning my next holiday in baltistan!
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Celebration Holidays in Baltistan a Bulshit Dream f Toilet Less Nation.
Come On ?Ian’s We r Fully Prepared fr Banging Ur Ass. ????
Indian Generals dare not react to this massive intrusion……in a two front war with China & Pakistan IAF knows its existence would be at stake !!!
I’m planning my next holiday in baltistan!
Nice joke
We have enough troops to first take over pakistan and deal with this chinese stuff together our troops are strong mentally and physically unline the 4.5ft pygmi chineese or that bearded pakistani imbicile with a beard that blends with his chest hair who uses women and children as human shields and trains terrorists
And as many people have said we would be going to baluchistan for holidays
Subah ka khaana amritsar mein dopeher ko lahore mein khaana khayenge
China is very strong now.Their missiles will wipe you out so be very careful.
China missiles are your size, no chance …..we also have long range missiles and have humiliated yiu in 1987 when you got a bloody nose! Remember , fortune favours the brave , not the chinks …or the slit eyes….
Endian forces are only forces in the world which regularly arrested by the neighbours and drink tea and thappars and then returned.???☕☕☕???
Nice wet dream. First take care of your invaded territory. Cinese soldiers are pooping 3 km inside.
What else can China do ? Pooping and taking virus all the time , all virus and undersized men come from one place ….you can only bring bad , not good ….
Its very good strategy like inda done against Pakistan by using Afghanistan Iran and Bangladesh. Now Pakistan use same policy against India. India want to dominate small neibours like Nepal, bhuton, Bangladesh, srilanka and Pakistan. Now these countries understand this, and start speaking against this. Nepal and China now doing the right thing and Bangladesh also thinks about this.
India is not a signal country. There was different independent states which was captured by India forcefully, and also use the British comisiion to capture some pakistan area during I dependance. So we never forget that.we will take our areas back. And also different states also want to live independently, will live as they want.
Take Back Bangladesh first.. They Are More Stable and Bigger Economy than Pakistan… Rather That talking Shit try to Save for Women Form Chinese Buyer.. And Get Some Dignity and Respect.. Everything U have is On Lease Or Begged For.. Even If u take Kashmir What will u feed them.. U Get Discounted Foods From India..
Indians are very happy in modi lies, Indian army propaganda and their fake Bollywood movies.
We regret IAF loss of your 2 fighter jets and one helicopter unfortunately.
Go and check, Gandustan is more liable to pay US than Pakistan ?. Indian baggers don’t have sufficient food to eat and Indian people eating crushed dead dogs and rats on the road, check in Internet.
Keep stay in dreams and Bollywood shit movies made by RAW.
Time and things are very changed. Piss drinker can’t defeats any one in this region, even to Nepal.
Ah yes, to balkanise India has been every Pakistanis dream, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, after failing to capture Kashmir in 1965, declared a 1000 year war against India in which he envisioned the capture of Kashmir, integration of West Bengal into East Pakistan, and the creation of “Khalistan”, we all know whG happened 6 years later…
The proof of Good mental and physical condition is that every week a indian soldier is committing suicide and crying for lack of food on LOC. THEY say all healthy and good food is eaten by their commanders and they feed them pulses boiled in water
Aap ke abhi nandan ku lahore me nashta kerwaya ta. Kuch yad bhi hai… Tea is fantastic ??? i think the most illeterate people are indians… The comments of induans shows u knows only abuse and ur parents teaches u abuses and bad language… Shame on u. Its social media….
“Chengez K”? Another Pakistani pretending to be something his people are not? Imagine my shock…
China in reality sees India as a huge market, this is why it’s support for Pakistan on Kashmir has been mediocre at best. It is only a Pakistani fantasy that China would help them in pursuing their purely ideological goals, as Pakistan has failed 4 times to take back Kashmir, very sad and tragic for Pakistanis, but your generals keep this issue alive for personal reasons.
Well friends it’s sad how much we hate each other, have you all thought all our comments and feelings are meant just for here.
Okay Pakistan, China great nations, India very bad nation BUT FRIENDS THE TRUTH IS THAT TH CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG AT LADAKH, WHO WILL BACK OFF WE WILL ALL SEE FOR OURSELVES.
Matter of common sense just sit back and think this time we will have a result for sure just imagine if China moves back, then every country it’s own neighbour’s will start wars with China and for India it has nothing to loose AS WITH THERE CHEST AND HEADS HIGH THE INDIAN ARMY IS JUST WAITING FOR THE MUSIC TO START AND PLEASE READ HISTORY HERE THE PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA MR MODI HAS A BACKING OF 100 PERCENT INDIANS.
So bottom line things will not be so easy for the Chinese Army as they are facing an ARMY WHICH IS BATTLE HARDENED.
So friends I wish The great people of Pakistan and China good luck as for Indians its there own Karma and if India is right in there cause not that Chinese will back off but eventually will lead to freedom of Tibet, Entire POK and Hong Kong not to miss Baluchistan.
So friends, Cheers the best one will win, its a social platform and even the soldiers want us us to maintain a proper decorum as a respect to them, they fight for the there respective nations and we should make our discussions without giving any dis respect to those soldiers at the war front.
Ur weapons r not even tested.Just like masks and PPE kits,quantatively u r ahead but quality is pathetic.
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2 front ? Aha ha ha hah , you guys lost half your country in 1971 ! Aha ha ha , you don’t know how to fight …
We will fight a war with. China , yes , with you , we will just shove you back , remember 98000 surrendered to only 17000? Already forgot Niazi ? Ah ha h ah ah ah ah ah
China is daydreaming its hegemony is cemented and needling India will only expose its insecurity and give the Western powers another window for virus dragon’s troubles. Xi Ping needs a check-up on the balance of mind as pressure has made him delusory
That’s because dreaming is free
No nuclear armed country is going to loose a war/territory
It only depends on whether threshold to trigger nuclear weapons is crossed or not
Only small skirmishes can be won or lost. Anything bigger, no country will dare against nuclear power