Indian govt officials last month skipped Turkish National Day celebrations in Delhi, in a message to Ankara following its support for Islamabad, particularly during Operation Sindoor.
Bihar is blessed with a land more fertile for revolutions than any in India. Why has it fallen so far behind then? Constant obsession with politics is at the root of its destruction.
Subham Tiwari is candid in his write-up which is more important to understand the context.
Whether a Muslim can teach Sanskrit ?
Yes, he can and he has the right to teach .
The question is teaching Sanskrit is one thing and to be a part of that worldview is another .
Here lies the problem .
Subham’s objection is whether the professor appointed can abide by Guru Shishya Parampara ? It does not boils down to simply doing a job perfectly , but it is all about living out a knowledge system which is considered sacred.
It is more than an academic discipline . A worldview wherein both the students and the professors may not find themselves compatible with each other.
Subham says the professor appointed may teach in Arts .
It shows it is still a Gurukul .
That is the point .
Subham may not be right , but he is very much candid . He is speaking reality and practicality.
Understand the context .
Yes, we do agree with Prof Apoorvanand that many Western scholars have done laudable works on Sanskrit .
Nobody denies that .
But , just think of a westerner teaching Sanskrit at BHU and his personal life style does not reflect what he teaches in the class.
It will definitely hurt the students .
Let us understand the context from which Subham is speaking .
That’s it.
Knowledge is like gold, which is picked up even from shit. If you can learn and read Sanskrit literature written by MAHARISHI Balmiki hi, and Bed Vyas ki, both non-Brahmins; what is the problem in learning from a Muslim Sanskrit scholar. He has to be too good as compared to many of us who can remember the name of Vedas. Shows poverty in thought.
If the professor has the skill and the knowledge, he must be allowed to teach, no ifs and buts. Just because the Muslims do not allow any Hindu in their madrassah, Hindus should never go by that route.
We should appreciate a person who has mastered the language of Sanskrit & attained the stature to teach.It should not be linked to religion.Hinduism never discriminates a person for his belief in God in different form, we had my scholars in history who never had faith in Hindism but we’re respected for their knowledge in their field.We should rather encourage such people who would help in spreading the language.
Shameful, primitive, ignorant …. is all that can be said about these people who are protesting at the appointment of Prof. Feroze Khan. It does not matter what his religion is, he should be appointed on the basis of his scholarship and nothing else. This buffoon Tiwari ought to be expelled … looks like he is not yet mature enough to go to university, his upbringing is deficient …. he needs to be taught to show respect to his teachers.
I DON’T AGREE WITH U AJAY SINGH BECAUSE DHARMA IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER THINGS DHARAM SE CHED CHAD NHI HO SAKTI ,SANSKRIT APNE AAPME EK DHARAM H SANSKRIT AANE SE KOI GURU NHI BANTA H OR NAHI KISI SARKAAR DWARA NIYUKT KARNE SE SO BHU IS NOT MORE A VEDIC UNIVERSITY IT IS A UNIVERSITY WHICH IS RULED BY GOVT NOT BY THE TRUSTEE ,SCHOLARSHIP IS WRONG THING THIS IS AMBEDKARS LAW AND SANTAN DHARM DOESN’T ALLOW ANYTHING WRONG
One question for BHU’ students, Had the lecturer been someone from English/Irish/German/Spanish…. origin, or even chinese origin ? Students should be students, no barrier to learn from any race/religion! BHU students should learn to learn.
I realize comment was wrong. Even in this climate selection board selected him and authorities appointed him. Clearly someone who was not selected is behind this.
Vasudeva Kurumbam !!! is the motto our unique tradition. This simple narrow ways. frog in the well. Introspect, yoga is taught across world in various forms which is not traditional Indian. Should we protect? Many americans are teaching Samskruth. Why did not we raise concern?
THE CASTE SYSTEM AT WORK
BHU Sanskrit department is not a religious seminary for Brahmins.
it is well known the students of the school at BHU follows caste justification practices, a lower caste will not be allowed in either, according to some students at BHU.
They think At this department that Sanskrit language Is part of Hinduism and Hinduism is the caste system, they touch the feet of the Guru and in this department, there are predominantly Brahmin and a few upper caste and that is the culture, the are fully entrenched in their customs and will not change.
A Muslim or lower caste person will never be allowed to defile the place. Or defile the language.
Why is religion being brought into education institution funded by the government ? Nobody asks this question.
We has become a Hindu Rashtra, the Brahmin rules openly.
This is the fallout, when a institution or country stops being secular, look out in future for more of these funny practices from a primitive and religious mindset.
THIS MUSLIM SHOULD APPLY AT A FOREIGN UNIVERSITY WHERE THE SCHOLARSHIP IN SANSKRIT IS SO MUCH BETTER. NON HINDU FOREIGNERS KNOW MORE ABOUT SANSKRIT THAN ANY BRAHMIN
India was divided on religion and your forefathers said Muslims cannot live with Hindus. Pakistan has become an Islamic state and so there are no problems with India becoming a Hindu state. But that does not justify why a scholar should not get the post he deserves. It does not matter which religion he belongs to. This is the fallout of too much religiosity among the Muslims and the terror culture.
My father – like several Punjabis of his generation – wrote and spoke elegant Urdu. Traditionally a language associated with Muslims, which has been used extensively by the Hindi film industry as well. Gives us a composite language that is more pleasing to the ears than stilted Doordarshan Hindi. It seems very small hearted to deny a Muslim the privilege to study or teach Sanskrit. 2. Had Pandit Shubham Tiwaeri been born in a house in Afghanistan, he would have grown up and joined the Taleban. There is a universal brotherhood of the devout / austere.
Subham Tiwari is candid in his write-up which is more important to understand the context.
Whether a Muslim can teach Sanskrit ?
Yes, he can and he has the right to teach .
The question is teaching Sanskrit is one thing and to be a part of that worldview is another .
Here lies the problem .
Subham’s objection is whether the professor appointed can abide by Guru Shishya Parampara ? It does not boils down to simply doing a job perfectly , but it is all about living out a knowledge system which is considered sacred.
It is more than an academic discipline . A worldview wherein both the students and the professors may not find themselves compatible with each other.
Subham says the professor appointed may teach in Arts .
It shows it is still a Gurukul .
That is the point .
Subham may not be right , but he is very much candid . He is speaking reality and practicality.
Understand the context .
Yes, we do agree with Prof Apoorvanand that many Western scholars have done laudable works on Sanskrit .
Nobody denies that .
But , just think of a westerner teaching Sanskrit at BHU and his personal life style does not reflect what he teaches in the class.
It will definitely hurt the students .
Let us understand the context from which Subham is speaking .
That’s it.
Majority pf Indians talk but do walk the talk.
There students don’t have common sense. What knowledge are they acquiring over there. We should be proud of Shri Feroz Khan.
Let’s have another opinion.
https://www.opindia.com/2019/11/bhu-muslim-sanskrit-professor-firoz-khan-appointment-ground-report/
Knowledge is like gold, which is picked up even from shit. If you can learn and read Sanskrit literature written by MAHARISHI Balmiki hi, and Bed Vyas ki, both non-Brahmins; what is the problem in learning from a Muslim Sanskrit scholar. He has to be too good as compared to many of us who can remember the name of Vedas. Shows poverty in thought.
If the professor has the skill and the knowledge, he must be allowed to teach, no ifs and buts. Just because the Muslims do not allow any Hindu in their madrassah, Hindus should never go by that route.
We should appreciate a person who has mastered the language of Sanskrit & attained the stature to teach.It should not be linked to religion.Hinduism never discriminates a person for his belief in God in different form, we had my scholars in history who never had faith in Hindism but we’re respected for their knowledge in their field.We should rather encourage such people who would help in spreading the language.
Shameful, primitive, ignorant …. is all that can be said about these people who are protesting at the appointment of Prof. Feroze Khan. It does not matter what his religion is, he should be appointed on the basis of his scholarship and nothing else. This buffoon Tiwari ought to be expelled … looks like he is not yet mature enough to go to university, his upbringing is deficient …. he needs to be taught to show respect to his teachers.
I DON’T AGREE WITH U AJAY SINGH BECAUSE DHARMA IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER THINGS DHARAM SE CHED CHAD NHI HO SAKTI ,SANSKRIT APNE AAPME EK DHARAM H SANSKRIT AANE SE KOI GURU NHI BANTA H OR NAHI KISI SARKAAR DWARA NIYUKT KARNE SE SO BHU IS NOT MORE A VEDIC UNIVERSITY IT IS A UNIVERSITY WHICH IS RULED BY GOVT NOT BY THE TRUSTEE ,SCHOLARSHIP IS WRONG THING THIS IS AMBEDKARS LAW AND SANTAN DHARM DOESN’T ALLOW ANYTHING WRONG
One question for BHU’ students, Had the lecturer been someone from English/Irish/German/Spanish…. origin, or even chinese origin ? Students should be students, no barrier to learn from any race/religion! BHU students should learn to learn.
We are in dark age.
I realize comment was wrong. Even in this climate selection board selected him and authorities appointed him. Clearly someone who was not selected is behind this.
Vasudeva Kurumbam !!! is the motto our unique tradition. This simple narrow ways. frog in the well. Introspect, yoga is taught across world in various forms which is not traditional Indian. Should we protect? Many americans are teaching Samskruth. Why did not we raise concern?
THE CASTE SYSTEM AT WORK
BHU Sanskrit department is not a religious seminary for Brahmins.
it is well known the students of the school at BHU follows caste justification practices, a lower caste will not be allowed in either, according to some students at BHU.
They think At this department that Sanskrit language Is part of Hinduism and Hinduism is the caste system, they touch the feet of the Guru and in this department, there are predominantly Brahmin and a few upper caste and that is the culture, the are fully entrenched in their customs and will not change.
A Muslim or lower caste person will never be allowed to defile the place. Or defile the language.
Why is religion being brought into education institution funded by the government ? Nobody asks this question.
We has become a Hindu Rashtra, the Brahmin rules openly.
This is the fallout, when a institution or country stops being secular, look out in future for more of these funny practices from a primitive and religious mindset.
THIS MUSLIM SHOULD APPLY AT A FOREIGN UNIVERSITY WHERE THE SCHOLARSHIP IN SANSKRIT IS SO MUCH BETTER. NON HINDU FOREIGNERS KNOW MORE ABOUT SANSKRIT THAN ANY BRAHMIN
India was divided on religion and your forefathers said Muslims cannot live with Hindus. Pakistan has become an Islamic state and so there are no problems with India becoming a Hindu state. But that does not justify why a scholar should not get the post he deserves. It does not matter which religion he belongs to. This is the fallout of too much religiosity among the Muslims and the terror culture.
My father – like several Punjabis of his generation – wrote and spoke elegant Urdu. Traditionally a language associated with Muslims, which has been used extensively by the Hindi film industry as well. Gives us a composite language that is more pleasing to the ears than stilted Doordarshan Hindi. It seems very small hearted to deny a Muslim the privilege to study or teach Sanskrit. 2. Had Pandit Shubham Tiwaeri been born in a house in Afghanistan, he would have grown up and joined the Taleban. There is a universal brotherhood of the devout / austere.