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Its about the loudspeakers not the azaan. There was a good example in my country about this. A lady complain about the loudeness and it was ended with the lady put sentences in jail for blasphemy and they destroy a temple.
Just want to say that this is a sensitive matters for Moslems so yes need to promote disscussion over this matter. CMIIW, rules about this loudspeaker such the decibels or usage of the loudspeaker only for azaan but the inisiative should be from the Moslems it self, because they who had the knowledge abour the rules of azaan. Just my opinion.
Before asking to review the Azaan conten, please understand the meaning correctly. You are wrong here in understanding the meaning of Azaan “there is no god but my god” (اشهد ان لا اله الا الله) . The meaning is “there is none for worship Except one God” no where it says my God. Hope it explains and improves your knowledge of Azaan. God give everyone strength to understand the right meaning.
Before asking to review the Azaan conten, please understand the meaning correctly. You are wrong here in understanding the meaning of Azaan “there is no god but my god” (اشهد ان لا اله الا الله) . The meaning is “there is none for worship Except one God” no where it says my God. Hope it explains and improves your knowledge of Azaan. God give everyone strength to understand the right meaning.
I am an Islamic scholar and I agree with Huda.
It is a well versed article. Muslims should follow his advice and they must give up azaan by loudspeakers.
If she is claiming azaan is disturbing her sleep then ask her to shift her house to near there is no masjid and all.
If it is really azaan is disturbing to all then loud speakers should be banned from all religious houses and where it is using.
It IS totally a pure, social, mental and religious stupidy- many of my family members and friends have said it for so many years – they cannot sleep properly or be oneself in peace, without hearing a day in and a day out of, loudspeaker polluting noise, endlessly five times a day, – those Muslims need to realize that and respect others who also live, like them, in their surrounding areas/cities – they are NOT the only people who live in an area/cities -there ARE others too, who live in that areas/cities – this noise pollution of loudspeaker MUST stop, if need be, by use of the force, whatever that force may it be. It MUST stop. Period. Thank you.
Nikratan barua my family and so many rekatives didn’t sleep well from so many years due to bhajans on loudspeaker’s. And during jaatra whole night and day continue bhajan on loudspeaker’s with high volume cause noise pollution so u r not only leaving in society we r also leaving society .we didn’t make any issue or complain about it. So,dont make any silly issues because we are all living in same society always maintain peace and equality .
Then all loudspeakers should be banned even those from the bhajan , jagrata etc etc which Hindu religious do continuous 24×7 noise pollution which is equal to the whole year of azaan.
Everyone need to know the meaning of AZAN first. AZAN calls towards good. No one would reject if something is calling towards good. Secondly why a person (without speaker) loudly calls? He calls for everyone should hear and come towards goodness. If it is so then what’s wrong in calling through speaker.
In the time Mohammed (saws) there was no speaker therefore no question of using that time. In the time of Mohammed (saws) there were no mobiles TVs. Had the people left using mobiles and tvs ? If speakers were there at the time of Mohammed (saws) they may have been used for the reason that everyone should hear and come towards goodness. But I agree that valume of the sound should be moderate.
If you know anything about Islam you should know you cant change the way of ibadat it’s called bidaah so loudspeaker should be banned as its a bidaah . Many Muslim dont celebrate mawlid for the same reason.
Yeah 2-3 minutes, five times a day.. 365 days.. some of us might be sleeping and we hear this screech still no problem, we might be in the middle of an important/serious call/meeting we hear this screech still no problem, we might have so many problems that we require peace and calmness for sometime and we hear this screech still no problem!!!! well, you don’t have a problem coz you are a muslim but others do have problem listening to this. Why the hell are Muslims enforcing their religion on others!! They want their community to grow and so they keep giving birth even if they are 50 not thinking about their health.. utter nonsense.. not seen so religion obsessed people in any other community.. pity
Just because you are ok doesn’t mean it’s ok for everyone. Nobody plays bhajans, kirtans 5 times a day. In any case there is no need to create a public nuisance with blaring noise whether it’s the azzan or playing bhajans, Bollywood songs such festivals. Time to restore the sanctity of all our religious practices so that they truly reflect their original purpose and holiness. Instead of becoming Identity markers or games of political upmanship.
Time to bring back sanctity and respect into religious practices. The kind of blaring boisterous celebrations during all religious festivals need to stop. This includes playing of Bollywood songs during Ganesh and Durga pooja festivals. Keep it simple and quiet. Unfortunately even religion nowadays is a in your face political tamasha.
at INDIA while Prime Minister & President are doing POOJA and all 150 to 200 channels are showing loud these events and citizen of pooja place are silent or supporting there no one liberal Hindu is getting Noises???
Yess we should ban all loud speakers in India those used in bars clubs and mandirs to. I mean azaan is peaceful but bro what about those annoying tunes they play at mandir and the cringey songs they play at weddings let’s ban all use of loud speakers in India after all change starts with ourselves. Let’s change ourselves first.
Azaan is said for not nore thsn 3mins. What you/one among liberals have to say about the blaring and deafening aartis from mandirs? Do they nor create sound pollution
Arent they a cause of nuisanse
If you say there wereno loudspeakers so it should be stooped. Then please stop all the sources of conveyance like car, bikes, heavy vehicles which were not available then and now treating and taking people’s life either by pollution or accident or even noise. Please use only horses, camels or donkeys like you who cannot make justifiable reasonable difference. Please do not use digital means of doing things which makes widespread various detrimental rays around us and threatening life, please stop aeroplanes nuclear research and unstoppable examples, why just loudspeakers in mosque. This why you fear the call of Allah will prevail only and as you already heard of it and must be questioned in the hereafter that why didn’t you responded to the call of Allah before being thwarted towards the hell.
Idol immersion does not take place every single day of the year. Hence, the DJs are confined ONLY to a few specific days.
Also, the timing of the nuisance matters. I dont think anyone would have an issue if the azaan was aired at 9 am. Using loudspeakers at 5 un the morning is heights of craziness. Maybe one can consider it for a special occassion which happens say once or twice in a year. But to have to endure it 365 days will make anyone annoyed and aggrieved.
This issue should be sorted out within the community itself. There are countries like Egypt where use of loudspeakers during Azaan are banned. So use of loudspeakers is not a uniform practice.
As regards noise pollution from any source, there are set rules and police must implement them.
I don’t think Najma hoda is qualified to pronounce statements on shariat
The issue is decided on the basis of ijtihaad which I believe she might have heard
The reason of disturbing others sleep or etc does not hold ground when other religions have also the other ways for calling or making their presence felt
‘We are okay with use of loudspeakers for concerts and political speeches but not for someone’s religious practices!!’
Prophet PBUH didn’t use mechanical sounds because the bell or horn could not deliver the message of azaan so a human voice was considered suitable.
In my opinion, loudspeakers should be allowed for religious purposes or they should be banned for all purposes.
Every religion has their own principles.
So let the followers decide what to do.
Whether it is Islam, Hinduism, Christianity, Sikhism and so on.
As far as loudspeaker is concerned in Islam, I would like to inform my non-Muslim brothers and sisters that during our Prophet (BPUH) time, there was no technology and no electricity. So no question of his (BPUH) support or no support for loudspeaker.
So, please, I request every indian brothers and sisters to keep their religion within themselves and not to pass any type of comments for any other religions. Respect for all.
I wouldn’t say that the country is ‘blessed’ to have people like Zakir Naik and his ilk. Rather than saying that everybody should live with this chaos, it’d be better to ban them all considering the reduction in noise pollution is beneficial not only to human health but also to the animals & plants that live with us. Blaring praying calls at 4:30 or 5:30 is a fanatic behavior, the right to which must not be that of anyone in the country. We could do well without this kind of religious/cultural/feudal medievalism be it by Muslims or any other group.
There should be fairness in our judgement. if
loud sound/high decibels is the problem then bring every high decibel to account. All(hindu,muslim,sikh, Christian..etc) religious programs on loud speakers, noisy honks of the train, company sirons, election rallies with high capacity loud speakers.. etc all sound too loud to my un biased human ear. Also better don’t go back to origins of any religion as it will only shock you more knowing how we all have deviated/evolved from the original religious practices, even Hindu religion for that matter.
I think you are wrong and I’ll try to prove it in points. No intention of hurting others
1) Azan is needed to call Muslims to prayer. In India, Mosques aren’t everywhere. So it becomes necessary for the people to know when is the prayer starting.
2) You say the prophet would have rejected it. 1400 years ago there were no loudspeakers. The Masjid in that time was small and the houses weren’t too far so there was no need of loudspeakers. Today Masjids are big and people live far away
3) Speaking about pollution.
Today we need loudspeakers in our life. If not everywhere atleast in places of importante ( political places, religious places etc). We can reduce the pollution by using the car horns less. What about the huge concerts that take place . The people are making noise, the sound systems are causing noise pollution. Noise is created by air traffic and construction sites tpoo.
Mistakes made by Muslims:
1) The azan is not given in proper voice
Often old people give the azan and their voice is not beautiful. Even if young people give azan, their voices aren’t beautiful. The proper way of giving azan is by reciting it in beautiful voice and with proper pronunciation
2) The azan is given as if someone is shouting. Please my request to the Muslims, give the azan in a proper way
My aim was to tell you the main aim of azan and the mistakes of Muslims. If someone was hurt, I had no intention of doing so
Write up is beautiful written but in india scene is something different…Azaan is Disturbing people but music is good. Fire crackers on diwali is not disturbing people…..
There is no case of disturbance, it is only the murder of democracy…
I’ve read some pieces by this author and yes, whilst not as rabid as quite a lot of opinion-leaders/-makers of self-proclaimed “Reformists” — who’re oh-so-unpredictably adored amongst the “HIndians” and non-“Ms”..
…And this Tamizhan is in the same league BUT..
…Obviously not well-liked because he’s the far more articulate, and dare I add: non-narcissist, mature figure of all.
HOWEVER.. Since he’s in the same league: One can’t discount the Philosophical possibility of the presence of narcissism, of being a founder of yet-another Islāmic sect — after all. For more than millennia: Far, far, far before the advent of “Interwebs”, all self-anointed pioneers after “the Prophet”* has.. Let’s just say: Wrought overall mixed-results, after all. And yes: Need I spell-out, like every other belief-system — has often resulted in intra-religious violent strifes*, after all. But ahhh.. Well! At least the name gets stamped[ on the name of sect], so what else should even matter?
*I mostly invoke the term ‘the most beloved Prophet’ because the Question of his Finality, eventually causes the aforementioned[ between denominations]. But here.. The author already gave me an alternative-template, even if it’s not as comprehensive.
I am a Muslim and I totally agree with the given points in article and this is sometime I have been discussing with people ,it appears that the youth of Muslim community are more logical and will welcome any laws regarding banning Azaan on loudspeakers.
Warna banning of loudspeaker on bhajan and jagrata of 24 hours in a day continuosly , also should be banned, you have to comment
But you are not a muslim so I clear you that if banning of loudspeaker during azaan is a noise pollution then banning of loudspeaker during bhajan and other prayers are also fall in this category
Hope you understand that
Noise pollution should be reduced no matter of whatever source it is coming from..and whomsoever it is coming from…
there is no problem in using loudspeakers in the afternoons and evenings.
but some of the reciters are really “besura” especially in india. they should definitely be banned.
Azaan is invitation for the holy prayers five time a day. It lasts 1 to 1.5 minutes with the sound level permissible under law. No music is part of it. Mr. Najam is perhaps trying to portray himself as a neutral to appease the agitating side. If banned, all loudspeaker at various events posses a similar tragedy inviting ban. We live in a civilized society trying to reach Mars. When the worlds developed nation were busy in mastering various fields to hold their grip in development and economics, here in India we are still busy in these topics without a sense of shame. We have the right to practice and apply religious protocols being respected by law and its citizens since independense. Why Azan being a subjected heated now not to talk about changing the historical names of cities being derived from the Moghul era. It seems we have fixed to eliminate every impression of historical values keeping our dislikes towards a specific subject. India has lakhs of Math’s and Mandir’s were Bhajan’s and Kirtan’s practiced on loudspeakers and without them. This proves we still have a tolerable society except a few minds only to polarise a peaceful existence of humans.
As azaan in loudspeaker promote noise pollution and disturb people routine we should implement rule to ban loudspeaker for all type of activities as said in earlier comments let it be bhajan or music during navratri, or church carols in loud speakers as well as crackers in diwali which is main source of both noise and air pollution.
India is a country of many religion i believe hardly there is any country in world with such large amount of religious faith and belief of people live in harmony so instead of targeting at any specific community if rules are being passed it should be viewed in a secular way to see harmony among all the faiths.
I beleive the statement given in above topic is undoubtedly correct. It does not have any religious values. If it’s creating controversy then I believe it should be corrected. Keep the volume low, the sound should not go outside the mosque itself or be it any religious place.
If it’s correct according to u then it should stop in all religions place.
And if u don’t knw wts correct or wrong don’t give a comment.
Right wing extremists in the country think liberals only find faults in “Hindu way of living” and never address the faults in minority religions. This should open their eyes up.
Azan is only for 5 mins. that too just the recitation without music, the communal guys having frustration wanna make a name objecting to it. In Navratilova the whole night Brajans with full music volume. That time they don’t bother about noise pollution they just enjoy troubling others.
“Azaan is intended for Muslims. That it falls on non-Muslim ears is an inadvertence”. Extending the same logic, Temple/Church/Gurudwara if they use loud speakers (which they normally do every now and then) their sound also falls on non-believers of that respective faith!! If loud speakers have to be given up then it should be given up by All faiths and not only by a specially “targeted community” by the columnist.
An IPS officer writing about a religious matter which definitely do not appear to be his forte!! He should better concentrate on improving his career by performance rather than by being a stooge!!
And what about Bhajans that are blaring out of loud speakers. Would you write something about that or you are just too scared to be another lynch mob victim.
As usual, here also I see some used the opportunity to Islam bashing. *They conveniently forget the fact that all religious places, regardless any particular faith is responsible for this phenomena* while influencial zealots of a particular sect belong to their own faith itself is being alleged of assertiveness.
Always appreciate the understanding of Shri Hoda in his articles. I am sure that if Muslims give up the use of loudspeakers, other communities too will give up the same time, and that would be good for our country. The problem comes when activists want Hindus to give up use of crackers during Diwali ,while keeping mum of the loudspeakers on mosques.
Did you even read the article before you decided to flaunt your prejudice in public?
Good article.
Nowhere it is mentioned that loudspeakers were there 1400 years ago in the article.
I would like to add that this should be universal for all religions. There is no need to pray using loudspeakers or even with might of your lungs if you are disturbing others. (either other religion or your own religion as well)
Everyone has a right of not to be disturbed.
All should use there own intellect before advising others to use their.
I think a citizen’s rights to live peacefully is an absolute must. And azaans are disturbing to non Muslims through the day. In fact the very use of loudspeakers should be banned from usage whether it is Muslims, Hindus, community musical or religious programmes or even political speeches. Designate a few places where the loudspeaker may be used and other places should be designated pollution fee places.
There is far too much noise pollution in India and religious celebrations as well as functions such as marriages are the main culprits. And you are spot on when you say that noise pollution measures should aslo extend to political campaigning.
Alan takes time max 1 minute .in that one minute u will not be dirurb. In five times azan takes max 6 to 7 minute
In my area Hindu use loudspeaker early in morning and they take times 1 hour .
Think who diturb us more
‘Collective wisdom ‘ ? Not for Muslims, they are proud to be assertive.
yes this applies for all religion….early morning bhajans in Mandir, All the day and night laudspeakers in various pujas are disturbing in the same manner. Same is the case of all night party in new year or the DJ on roads in marriages. The issue is not approached as noise pollution rather being targetted as Azan disturbance. By focusing on Muslims, India can get rid of azaan on mike, but not noise pollution, which is the main problem.
He clearly says the Prophet WOULD have rejected it in a hypothetical manner emphasizing that the Prophet might have chosen to sacrifice the right to use speakers in deference to the wishes of those who were discomforted by it.
First of all who are you to decide what we have to do ?
In india we are told to people that we live together but see what’s happening and if your having any problem close your ears we cant tolerate this bullshit
Clearly he did not see its existence for him to endorse or not endorse it. He might have endorsed it if it were there during his time, though he might not have endorsed the horn, etc.
As a matter of logic and rule (if required), there should be no loud speakers used at any place of worship except for indoor events, where the sound will remain within four walls.
Indeed persons may exercise their individual and collective option to sing bhajan, recite mantra or recite verses from Quran with all the lung power they may have.
There are 2 kinds of actions expected. Tactical shirt term and long term
In the short run, let loudspeakers be banned for any religious function of any religion. Why isolate Azaan. The issue is not Azaan, issue is someone shouting into anyone’s privacy which leaves me with no choice to accept or reject. So whether Ganesh chaturthi or Azaan, close all loud speakers
Long term perspective
Let there be clarity that religion and it’s practice s are about personal beliefs. Religion is not what a community decision.
So it is what ever it is to an individual and let it be and not be questioned by anyone.
The moment we make it a comunity activity,we are making it open to manipulation of an influencer. This could be religious bodies, politician or anyone with vested interests.
For better religious harmony, have a ministry for religion which debates, educates and brings more sharing. No budgetary allocation reqd, just quarterly congregation and sharing a. Each can take away what it wants.
Last aspect is dealing with public or community events. British era reqd it to congregate people. Today it has become a commercial and political event. This should completely closed. Any institution wanting should have a process of application, security, costs with declaration of no disturbance to others and fines if violated and should be conducted with donation s, but no tax payers money to be used.
Really impressed with some comments, which adress this issue as whole and not on the basisi of religion and pointing Muslims/azaan out. I think with such general concept, no one should have issues…. It should be on the basis of humanity….
Your thoughts are really nice bro
The article is written in good faith and should be welcomed but points to a deeper problem.
When it comes to muslims every idea needs to be referred back to what the Prophet did or what the Quran says – not that this is the logical thing to do, so do it! It’s like a 21st century hardware working on 7th century software. This is keeping the community from evolving – unlike every other major religion. Every time you hear Islam says ‘this’… That’s the core of the problem.
Clearly the use of loudspeakers on religious site’s have more to do with the community assertion in the public space and it’s true not only in the case of the Muslim’s , Hidus etc but the sects within a religious community as well. I also admit your point that, in case of the muslim community, an idea is always refered back to what the Prophet did n/or Quran, clearly or through infererence, says about it & can’t get community acceptance just being it logical alone. This position must be irritating to a non-muslim & also held the community back from progress in comparision to their peers.
Aise logo ko Joote se pitne ja mann karta hai..
Kaun hai ye zahil insaan??
Magar agar loudspeaker se noise pollution ho hi raha hai toh bhajan aur jagrata jo 24×7 hourse continuosly karte hain usko bhi loudspeaker ? se nhi karna chahiye
Frequency ki baat karenge toh jitna noise pollution ek jagrata ya bhajan me hota hai (24×7) hourse in a weak let’s assume then
In a year pura pura 30 din continuous use krte ho( 30×24×24 = 17,280 hourse ) tum sab loudspeaker jabki azan ki dekhi jaye toh (5 times a day = 10 mints ×5 = 50 minutes in a day so let’s 1 hours in a day approximately, 365×1 = 365 hourse )
Tumse toh bhut km noise pollution hai azaan ka
Fir sabhi religion se loudspeaker banned hona chahiye.
Hope you understand that
If islam has not mentioned anything about using loudspeakers then did hindu religion mention tht it is necessary to use loudspeakers in bhajans and ganesh chaturti festivals.Why , loudspeakers where not invented in the past na then why are u ppl using it now in bhajans when ur god didnt use it in the past
Use of loudspeakers in this day and age MUST be banned for any occasion, period.
Along with the burning problem of our environment such as Holi, Dhol Yatra, Diwali?
If we are going to teach eachother their own religion I am sure there are so many things Hindus are not practicing properly, for starters their religious books says there is only one God but they follow so many Gods. If Hindus think they know Islam better then Muslims then they should have debate with scholars like zaker Nayak.
Mr Ahmed: Zaker Nayak is no scholar but a businessman in the same mold as Baba Ram Rahim, Asharam Bapu, Sri Sri Ravishankar, Sadguru etc. All these charlatans run for profit businesses with opaque accounting practices. Indeed, much of what that fool Zaker Nayak says is unscientific and goes against the tenets of his first profession – medicine.
Its about the loudspeakers not the azaan. There was a good example in my country about this. A lady complain about the loudeness and it was ended with the lady put sentences in jail for blasphemy and they destroy a temple.
Just want to say that this is a sensitive matters for Moslems so yes need to promote disscussion over this matter. CMIIW, rules about this loudspeaker such the decibels or usage of the loudspeaker only for azaan but the inisiative should be from the Moslems it self, because they who had the knowledge abour the rules of azaan. Just my opinion.
Even the content needs review, shouting out that there is no god but my god is not exactly pleasing to others
Before asking to review the Azaan conten, please understand the meaning correctly. You are wrong here in understanding the meaning of Azaan “there is no god but my god” (اشهد ان لا اله الا الله) . The meaning is “there is none for worship Except one God” no where it says my God. Hope it explains and improves your knowledge of Azaan. God give everyone strength to understand the right meaning.
Before asking to review the Azaan conten, please understand the meaning correctly. You are wrong here in understanding the meaning of Azaan “there is no god but my god” (اشهد ان لا اله الا الله) . The meaning is “there is none for worship Except one God” no where it says my God. Hope it explains and improves your knowledge of Azaan. God give everyone strength to understand the right meaning.
I am an Islamic scholar and I agree with Huda.
It is a well versed article. Muslims should follow his advice and they must give up azaan by loudspeakers.
India a democratic and independent country with right to freedom of religion.
But also targeting a particular religion.
If she is claiming azaan is disturbing her sleep then ask her to shift her house to near there is no masjid and all.
If it is really azaan is disturbing to all then loud speakers should be banned from all religious houses and where it is using.
It IS totally a pure, social, mental and religious stupidy- many of my family members and friends have said it for so many years – they cannot sleep properly or be oneself in peace, without hearing a day in and a day out of, loudspeaker polluting noise, endlessly five times a day, – those Muslims need to realize that and respect others who also live, like them, in their surrounding areas/cities – they are NOT the only people who live in an area/cities -there ARE others too, who live in that areas/cities – this noise pollution of loudspeaker MUST stop, if need be, by use of the force, whatever that force may it be. It MUST stop. Period. Thank you.
Nikratan barua my family and so many rekatives didn’t sleep well from so many years due to bhajans on loudspeaker’s. And during jaatra whole night and day continue bhajan on loudspeaker’s with high volume cause noise pollution so u r not only leaving in society we r also leaving society .we didn’t make any issue or complain about it. So,dont make any silly issues because we are all living in same society always maintain peace and equality .
Then all loudspeakers should be banned even those from the bhajan , jagrata etc etc which Hindu religious do continuous 24×7 noise pollution which is equal to the whole year of azaan.
Everyone need to know the meaning of AZAN first. AZAN calls towards good. No one would reject if something is calling towards good. Secondly why a person (without speaker) loudly calls? He calls for everyone should hear and come towards goodness. If it is so then what’s wrong in calling through speaker.
In the time Mohammed (saws) there was no speaker therefore no question of using that time. In the time of Mohammed (saws) there were no mobiles TVs. Had the people left using mobiles and tvs ? If speakers were there at the time of Mohammed (saws) they may have been used for the reason that everyone should hear and come towards goodness. But I agree that valume of the sound should be moderate.
If you know anything about Islam you should know you cant change the way of ibadat it’s called bidaah so loudspeaker should be banned as its a bidaah . Many Muslim dont celebrate mawlid for the same reason.
Yeah 2-3 minutes, five times a day.. 365 days.. some of us might be sleeping and we hear this screech still no problem, we might be in the middle of an important/serious call/meeting we hear this screech still no problem, we might have so many problems that we require peace and calmness for sometime and we hear this screech still no problem!!!! well, you don’t have a problem coz you are a muslim but others do have problem listening to this. Why the hell are Muslims enforcing their religion on others!! They want their community to grow and so they keep giving birth even if they are 50 not thinking about their health.. utter nonsense.. not seen so religion obsessed people in any other community.. pity
Just because you are ok doesn’t mean it’s ok for everyone. Nobody plays bhajans, kirtans 5 times a day. In any case there is no need to create a public nuisance with blaring noise whether it’s the azzan or playing bhajans, Bollywood songs such festivals. Time to restore the sanctity of all our religious practices so that they truly reflect their original purpose and holiness. Instead of becoming Identity markers or games of political upmanship.
Time to bring back sanctity and respect into religious practices. The kind of blaring boisterous celebrations during all religious festivals need to stop. This includes playing of Bollywood songs during Ganesh and Durga pooja festivals. Keep it simple and quiet. Unfortunately even religion nowadays is a in your face political tamasha.
at INDIA while Prime Minister & President are doing POOJA and all 150 to 200 channels are showing loud these events and citizen of pooja place are silent or supporting there no one liberal Hindu is getting Noises???
Yess we should ban all loud speakers in India those used in bars clubs and mandirs to. I mean azaan is peaceful but bro what about those annoying tunes they play at mandir and the cringey songs they play at weddings let’s ban all use of loud speakers in India after all change starts with ourselves. Let’s change ourselves first.
Azaan is said for not nore thsn 3mins. What you/one among liberals have to say about the blaring and deafening aartis from mandirs? Do they nor create sound pollution
Arent they a cause of nuisanse
Makes sense, more so in a multi religious country
Najmul Hoda has been a consistent voice of reason. More power to him.
If you say there wereno loudspeakers so it should be stooped. Then please stop all the sources of conveyance like car, bikes, heavy vehicles which were not available then and now treating and taking people’s life either by pollution or accident or even noise. Please use only horses, camels or donkeys like you who cannot make justifiable reasonable difference. Please do not use digital means of doing things which makes widespread various detrimental rays around us and threatening life, please stop aeroplanes nuclear research and unstoppable examples, why just loudspeakers in mosque. This why you fear the call of Allah will prevail only and as you already heard of it and must be questioned in the hereafter that why didn’t you responded to the call of Allah before being thwarted towards the hell.
Idol immersion does not take place every single day of the year. Hence, the DJs are confined ONLY to a few specific days.
Also, the timing of the nuisance matters. I dont think anyone would have an issue if the azaan was aired at 9 am. Using loudspeakers at 5 un the morning is heights of craziness. Maybe one can consider it for a special occassion which happens say once or twice in a year. But to have to endure it 365 days will make anyone annoyed and aggrieved.
This issue should be sorted out within the community itself. There are countries like Egypt where use of loudspeakers during Azaan are banned. So use of loudspeakers is not a uniform practice.
As regards noise pollution from any source, there are set rules and police must implement them.
I don’t think Najma hoda is qualified to pronounce statements on shariat
The issue is decided on the basis of ijtihaad which I believe she might have heard
The reason of disturbing others sleep or etc does not hold ground when other religions have also the other ways for calling or making their presence felt
‘We are okay with use of loudspeakers for concerts and political speeches but not for someone’s religious practices!!’
Prophet PBUH didn’t use mechanical sounds because the bell or horn could not deliver the message of azaan so a human voice was considered suitable.
In my opinion, loudspeakers should be allowed for religious purposes or they should be banned for all purposes.
Every religion has their own principles.
So let the followers decide what to do.
Whether it is Islam, Hinduism, Christianity, Sikhism and so on.
As far as loudspeaker is concerned in Islam, I would like to inform my non-Muslim brothers and sisters that during our Prophet (BPUH) time, there was no technology and no electricity. So no question of his (BPUH) support or no support for loudspeaker.
So, please, I request every indian brothers and sisters to keep their religion within themselves and not to pass any type of comments for any other religions. Respect for all.
How about the political parties campaigning for vote?? How about songs played at temple on loud speaker.. should we blind to see these???
I wouldn’t say that the country is ‘blessed’ to have people like Zakir Naik and his ilk. Rather than saying that everybody should live with this chaos, it’d be better to ban them all considering the reduction in noise pollution is beneficial not only to human health but also to the animals & plants that live with us. Blaring praying calls at 4:30 or 5:30 is a fanatic behavior, the right to which must not be that of anyone in the country. We could do well without this kind of religious/cultural/feudal medievalism be it by Muslims or any other group.
There should be fairness in our judgement. if
loud sound/high decibels is the problem then bring every high decibel to account. All(hindu,muslim,sikh, Christian..etc) religious programs on loud speakers, noisy honks of the train, company sirons, election rallies with high capacity loud speakers.. etc all sound too loud to my un biased human ear. Also better don’t go back to origins of any religion as it will only shock you more knowing how we all have deviated/evolved from the original religious practices, even Hindu religion for that matter.
I think you are wrong and I’ll try to prove it in points. No intention of hurting others
1) Azan is needed to call Muslims to prayer. In India, Mosques aren’t everywhere. So it becomes necessary for the people to know when is the prayer starting.
2) You say the prophet would have rejected it. 1400 years ago there were no loudspeakers. The Masjid in that time was small and the houses weren’t too far so there was no need of loudspeakers. Today Masjids are big and people live far away
3) Speaking about pollution.
Today we need loudspeakers in our life. If not everywhere atleast in places of importante ( political places, religious places etc). We can reduce the pollution by using the car horns less. What about the huge concerts that take place . The people are making noise, the sound systems are causing noise pollution. Noise is created by air traffic and construction sites tpoo.
Mistakes made by Muslims:
1) The azan is not given in proper voice
Often old people give the azan and their voice is not beautiful. Even if young people give azan, their voices aren’t beautiful. The proper way of giving azan is by reciting it in beautiful voice and with proper pronunciation
2) The azan is given as if someone is shouting. Please my request to the Muslims, give the azan in a proper way
My aim was to tell you the main aim of azan and the mistakes of Muslims. If someone was hurt, I had no intention of doing so
Write up is beautiful written but in india scene is something different…Azaan is Disturbing people but music is good. Fire crackers on diwali is not disturbing people…..
There is no case of disturbance, it is only the murder of democracy…
I’ve read some pieces by this author and yes, whilst not as rabid as quite a lot of opinion-leaders/-makers of self-proclaimed “Reformists” — who’re oh-so-unpredictably adored amongst the “HIndians” and non-“Ms”..
…And this Tamizhan is in the same league BUT..
…Obviously not well-liked because he’s the far more articulate, and dare I add: non-narcissist, mature figure of all.
HOWEVER.. Since he’s in the same league: One can’t discount the Philosophical possibility of the presence of narcissism, of being a founder of yet-another Islāmic sect — after all. For more than millennia: Far, far, far before the advent of “Interwebs”, all self-anointed pioneers after “the Prophet”* has.. Let’s just say: Wrought overall mixed-results, after all. And yes: Need I spell-out, like every other belief-system — has often resulted in intra-religious violent strifes*, after all. But ahhh.. Well! At least the name gets stamped[ on the name of sect], so what else should even matter?
*I mostly invoke the term ‘the most beloved Prophet’ because the Question of his Finality, eventually causes the aforementioned[ between denominations]. But here.. The author already gave me an alternative-template, even if it’s not as comprehensive.
P.S. Ahhh..
I chronologically read the author’s this article which was my first-ever [ and his second overall]: https://theprint.in/opinion/indian-muslims-and-liberals-are-trapped-in-a-toxic-relationship/490617.
And now.. I take much of my words back. He was lashing-out at this rebuttal by his fellow IPS comrade WITHOUT addressing his argument: https://thewire.in/rights/it-is-wrong-and-unfair-to-blame-muslims-themselves-for-their-trials-and-tribulations.
That’s a pret-ty definite marker of narcissism, in spite of pained-attempt to hide the same with that stratagem.
I am a Muslim and I totally agree with the given points in article and this is sometime I have been discussing with people ,it appears that the youth of Muslim community are more logical and will welcome any laws regarding banning Azaan on loudspeakers.
Tum muslim nahi ho
Warna banning of loudspeaker on bhajan and jagrata of 24 hours in a day continuosly , also should be banned, you have to comment
But you are not a muslim so I clear you that if banning of loudspeaker during azaan is a noise pollution then banning of loudspeaker during bhajan and other prayers are also fall in this category
Hope you understand that
Noise pollution should be reduced no matter of whatever source it is coming from..and whomsoever it is coming from…
there is no problem in using loudspeakers in the afternoons and evenings.
but some of the reciters are really “besura” especially in india. they should definitely be banned.
Azaan is invitation for the holy prayers five time a day. It lasts 1 to 1.5 minutes with the sound level permissible under law. No music is part of it. Mr. Najam is perhaps trying to portray himself as a neutral to appease the agitating side. If banned, all loudspeaker at various events posses a similar tragedy inviting ban. We live in a civilized society trying to reach Mars. When the worlds developed nation were busy in mastering various fields to hold their grip in development and economics, here in India we are still busy in these topics without a sense of shame. We have the right to practice and apply religious protocols being respected by law and its citizens since independense. Why Azan being a subjected heated now not to talk about changing the historical names of cities being derived from the Moghul era. It seems we have fixed to eliminate every impression of historical values keeping our dislikes towards a specific subject. India has lakhs of Math’s and Mandir’s were Bhajan’s and Kirtan’s practiced on loudspeakers and without them. This proves we still have a tolerable society except a few minds only to polarise a peaceful existence of humans.
As azaan in loudspeaker promote noise pollution and disturb people routine we should implement rule to ban loudspeaker for all type of activities as said in earlier comments let it be bhajan or music during navratri, or church carols in loud speakers as well as crackers in diwali which is main source of both noise and air pollution.
India is a country of many religion i believe hardly there is any country in world with such large amount of religious faith and belief of people live in harmony so instead of targeting at any specific community if rules are being passed it should be viewed in a secular way to see harmony among all the faiths.
I beleive the statement given in above topic is undoubtedly correct. It does not have any religious values. If it’s creating controversy then I believe it should be corrected. Keep the volume low, the sound should not go outside the mosque itself or be it any religious place.
If it’s correct according to u then it should stop in all religions place.
And if u don’t knw wts correct or wrong don’t give a comment.
Right wing extremists in the country think liberals only find faults in “Hindu way of living” and never address the faults in minority religions. This should open their eyes up.
It was a good read. Thank you.
Azan is only for 5 mins. that too just the recitation without music, the communal guys having frustration wanna make a name objecting to it. In Navratilova the whole night Brajans with full music volume. That time they don’t bother about noise pollution they just enjoy troubling others.
“Azaan is intended for Muslims. That it falls on non-Muslim ears is an inadvertence”. Extending the same logic, Temple/Church/Gurudwara if they use loud speakers (which they normally do every now and then) their sound also falls on non-believers of that respective faith!! If loud speakers have to be given up then it should be given up by All faiths and not only by a specially “targeted community” by the columnist.
An IPS officer writing about a religious matter which definitely do not appear to be his forte!! He should better concentrate on improving his career by performance rather than by being a stooge!!
Thank you, sir. I am a religious Hindu and I must say that temples are loud and noisy too. Loudspeakers should be banned for all.
And what about Bhajans that are blaring out of loud speakers. Would you write something about that or you are just too scared to be another lynch mob victim.
As usual, here also I see some used the opportunity to Islam bashing. *They conveniently forget the fact that all religious places, regardless any particular faith is responsible for this phenomena* while influencial zealots of a particular sect belong to their own faith itself is being alleged of assertiveness.
Always appreciate the understanding of Shri Hoda in his articles. I am sure that if Muslims give up the use of loudspeakers, other communities too will give up the same time, and that would be good for our country. The problem comes when activists want Hindus to give up use of crackers during Diwali ,while keeping mum of the loudspeakers on mosques.
A blanket ban on all types of use of loudspeakers for daily religious practices is needed.
There is loudspeakers in Temples,
Wat about stopping the use of it
You mean there were loudspeakers 1400 years ago? Please use your intellect instead
Did you even read the article before you decided to flaunt your prejudice in public?
Good article.
Nowhere it is mentioned that loudspeakers were there 1400 years ago in the article.
I would like to add that this should be universal for all religions. There is no need to pray using loudspeakers or even with might of your lungs if you are disturbing others. (either other religion or your own religion as well)
Everyone has a right of not to be disturbed.
All should use there own intellect before advising others to use their.
I think a citizen’s rights to live peacefully is an absolute must. And azaans are disturbing to non Muslims through the day. In fact the very use of loudspeakers should be banned from usage whether it is Muslims, Hindus, community musical or religious programmes or even political speeches. Designate a few places where the loudspeaker may be used and other places should be designated pollution fee places.
I fully endorse your comment Mr Ram Y.
There is far too much noise pollution in India and religious celebrations as well as functions such as marriages are the main culprits. And you are spot on when you say that noise pollution measures should aslo extend to political campaigning.
Alan takes time max 1 minute .in that one minute u will not be dirurb. In five times azan takes max 6 to 7 minute
In my area Hindu use loudspeaker early in morning and they take times 1 hour .
Think who diturb us more
‘Collective wisdom ‘ ? Not for Muslims, they are proud to be assertive.
There are few “liberal” voices like you.
Loudspeaker was invented 1876. Prophet died in 632. Clearly prophet did not endorse loudspeakers.
yes this applies for all religion….early morning bhajans in Mandir, All the day and night laudspeakers in various pujas are disturbing in the same manner. Same is the case of all night party in new year or the DJ on roads in marriages. The issue is not approached as noise pollution rather being targetted as Azan disturbance. By focusing on Muslims, India can get rid of azaan on mike, but not noise pollution, which is the main problem.
He clearly says the Prophet WOULD have rejected it in a hypothetical manner emphasizing that the Prophet might have chosen to sacrifice the right to use speakers in deference to the wishes of those who were discomforted by it.
First of all who are you to decide what we have to do ?
In india we are told to people that we live together but see what’s happening and if your having any problem close your ears we cant tolerate this bullshit
Clearly he did not see its existence for him to endorse or not endorse it. He might have endorsed it if it were there during his time, though he might not have endorsed the horn, etc.
As a matter of logic and rule (if required), there should be no loud speakers used at any place of worship except for indoor events, where the sound will remain within four walls.
Indeed persons may exercise their individual and collective option to sing bhajan, recite mantra or recite verses from Quran with all the lung power they may have.
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Issue is not about Azaan
There are 2 kinds of actions expected. Tactical shirt term and long term
In the short run, let loudspeakers be banned for any religious function of any religion. Why isolate Azaan. The issue is not Azaan, issue is someone shouting into anyone’s privacy which leaves me with no choice to accept or reject. So whether Ganesh chaturthi or Azaan, close all loud speakers
Long term perspective
Let there be clarity that religion and it’s practice s are about personal beliefs. Religion is not what a community decision.
So it is what ever it is to an individual and let it be and not be questioned by anyone.
The moment we make it a comunity activity,we are making it open to manipulation of an influencer. This could be religious bodies, politician or anyone with vested interests.
For better religious harmony, have a ministry for religion which debates, educates and brings more sharing. No budgetary allocation reqd, just quarterly congregation and sharing a. Each can take away what it wants.
Last aspect is dealing with public or community events. British era reqd it to congregate people. Today it has become a commercial and political event. This should completely closed. Any institution wanting should have a process of application, security, costs with declaration of no disturbance to others and fines if violated and should be conducted with donation s, but no tax payers money to be used.
Really impressed with some comments, which adress this issue as whole and not on the basisi of religion and pointing Muslims/azaan out. I think with such general concept, no one should have issues…. It should be on the basis of humanity….
Your thoughts are really nice bro
The article is written in good faith and should be welcomed but points to a deeper problem.
When it comes to muslims every idea needs to be referred back to what the Prophet did or what the Quran says – not that this is the logical thing to do, so do it! It’s like a 21st century hardware working on 7th century software. This is keeping the community from evolving – unlike every other major religion. Every time you hear Islam says ‘this’… That’s the core of the problem.
Clearly the use of loudspeakers on religious site’s have more to do with the community assertion in the public space and it’s true not only in the case of the Muslim’s , Hidus etc but the sects within a religious community as well. I also admit your point that, in case of the muslim community, an idea is always refered back to what the Prophet did n/or Quran, clearly or through infererence, says about it & can’t get community acceptance just being it logical alone. This position must be irritating to a non-muslim & also held the community back from progress in comparision to their peers.
Aise logo ko Joote se pitne ja mann karta hai..
Kaun hai ye zahil insaan??
Did you read the article at all?
Haan article padha hai
Magar agar loudspeaker se noise pollution ho hi raha hai toh bhajan aur jagrata jo 24×7 hourse continuosly karte hain usko bhi loudspeaker ? se nhi karna chahiye
Frequency ki baat karenge toh jitna noise pollution ek jagrata ya bhajan me hota hai (24×7) hourse in a weak let’s assume then
In a year pura pura 30 din continuous use krte ho( 30×24×24 = 17,280 hourse ) tum sab loudspeaker jabki azan ki dekhi jaye toh (5 times a day = 10 mints ×5 = 50 minutes in a day so let’s 1 hours in a day approximately, 365×1 = 365 hourse )
Tumse toh bhut km noise pollution hai azaan ka
Fir sabhi religion se loudspeaker banned hona chahiye.
Hope you understand that
If islam has not mentioned anything about using loudspeakers then did hindu religion mention tht it is necessary to use loudspeakers in bhajans and ganesh chaturti festivals.Why , loudspeakers where not invented in the past na then why are u ppl using it now in bhajans when ur god didnt use it in the past
Use of loudspeakers in this day and age MUST be banned for any occasion, period.
Along with the burning problem of our environment such as Holi, Dhol Yatra, Diwali?
If we are going to teach eachother their own religion I am sure there are so many things Hindus are not practicing properly, for starters their religious books says there is only one God but they follow so many Gods. If Hindus think they know Islam better then Muslims then they should have debate with scholars like zaker Nayak.
Mr Ahmed: Zaker Nayak is no scholar but a businessman in the same mold as Baba Ram Rahim, Asharam Bapu, Sri Sri Ravishankar, Sadguru etc. All these charlatans run for profit businesses with opaque accounting practices. Indeed, much of what that fool Zaker Nayak says is unscientific and goes against the tenets of his first profession – medicine.