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U NARROW MINDED INDIANS ARE SIMPLY READY TO ACCEPT THE FAST GROWING ECONOMY OF BANGLADESH ??? INDIA IS DEVELOPING BUT WHEN INDIA WILL PROVIDE TOILET FACILITIES TO 200 MILLION POOR INDIANS WHO COMPLETES THEIR NATURES CALL SPECIALLY INN THE MORNING IN ANY EMPTY FIELDS, DRAINS IN FULL VIEW OF THE TOURISTS WHO WATCH THEM WITH SHOCK ????
Richest region of Bengal, not the poorest region in Pakistan. Bangladesh came into existence BECAUSE of our regional, cultural, and religious differences.
Ground reality is far different.Competition among Mercedes & Rickshaw can be seen in Dhaka itself w/c reflects modern day slavery.Lack of humanism can be seen.Wealthy Bdeshis including doctors still prefer being treated by Indian/Singaporian doctors due to unhuman and rude behaviour of local doctors whereas low income & poor families have compulsion to be harassed & maltreated.If there population gets controlled,no doubt they will obviously do good but the problem is there uncontrollable birth rates due to radical religious beliefs among extremists .
Population growth of Bangladesh is lower than India.
So you are telling me India doesnt have radical Hindu believers?
Haha Indians will always be Indians, looks like the Brits could not teach you slaves, bunch of moaners just like their cricket team. Go fix your country first. We don’t care about you.
It was nice to read a well worded article on a country which we can take pride in giving birth to! I read through all the criticism contained therein. Also, one of the noteworthy point already raised by one of the observers here is that Bangladesh ‘exported their overpopulation’ into India. All this notwithstanding, kudos to Priyamvada Grover to put forth a point that a country as small or as big as one of India’s state is contending to compete with India. Yes, it is a matter of pride for them to be competing with India and come out better. Having said, we have to observe that they had so many hurdles to cross. In its magnanimity, India has bigger and mightier contries to compete with, but we can open discussions on how each of our states are fairing vis-a-vis Bangladesh, or for that matter any country of that size. Many years back, I had given this as a food for thought that the states ought to be run like independent entities encompassing their strengths (and weaknesses as well), winning over them to come out with their own set of winning goals and securing their development plans through direct fundings from domestic or internationalinvestors. Finally it boiled down to the local Startups with international reach. Still we are not too late … as against looking at centre to bail each state out of any of the problems, the states should run themselves as independent international entities. In fact, those states which worked on this model are already doingat par or better than most of their counterparts & countries internationally. Thanks to the writer to bring forth the point here, onec again.
The author missed an important point: Bangladesh exported it’s most poors to India and got rid of its poverty. A very smart move by Bangladesh.They are doing it still with the help of Indian libtards and pseudo seculars. Yet it’s very good for us and we can expect that the infiltrators will start going back to Bangladesh because of its improved economic performance.
Who don’t you export India’s poor to some other country and make a smart move too. Also just to let you know : “Yet it’s very good for us….” – No it’s not good for us because the so called infiltrators never agreed they were such and Bangladesh won’t take them anyway even if they agree. So will you try to fight for something where there’s no tangible result in sight or do something else to inprove your country’s condition by focusing elsewhere ?
Priyamvada Grover – author of this article – must be contesting.
Abhishek you can be a proud patriot as much as you want by reality will dawn nevertheless. Stop trying to find fault with the author or the article and start searching what can be done to keep India at the top table. There will be many such articles by many other writers and you will get bogged down refuting them on the comments section. Do your original research and send an article to any of the many newspapers in india. You might have a chance then if refuting this article and proving your point.
India needs to liberalise labor laws. A flexible and less restrictive labor market will enable companies to hire more workers.
I see not many people like the fact that Bangladesh is doing better in many different sections than India or Pakistan. Bangladesh made strides in healthcare and social index many many years ago, not a recent phenomenon.
Quite obviously 70years of congress rule not done any good. Even the present bjp govt has had limited success…. Something fundamentally wrong with the manner in which India is governed
inspiring to know consistent growth of bangladesh in last few decades both in economic and social sectors. I always had a cramped up image of bangladesh society of highest population density , population being 16 crore plus for the size of the country.
India should seriously consider providing better connectivity to our north east passing through bangladesh so that our most backward and disconnected part of north eastern states also improves , taking a leaf from Bangla story
Grameen Bank borrowers are killing themselves because they cant pay back their loans. What happened to the first Grameen borrower that he likes to talk about so much? She died in poverty. BRAC with bKash has done more for the country since its inception than Yunus ever has or will.
There’re massive BLUNDERs in the above article, for instance –
Bangladesh PPP GDP/capita is 3524 USD
India PPP GDP/capita is 6426.67 USD
6427/3524 =~ 1.827; there is no way Bangladesh is “catching up” with India in GDP/capita in a couple of years.
This also holds for nominal GDP – Bangladesh’s normal GDP/capita growth in last 3 years has NOT been 39 percent. It has been closer to 17%, virtually same growth as India. Nominal GDP/capita is unhelpful, since most goods/services in both countries are produced internally.
As regards infant mortality, Indian IMR of 32 in 1,300 million is way more credible achievement than Bangladesh’s IMR of 27 in a much smaller population of 150 million.
No it doesn’t. It says Bangladesh’s per capita is increasing at 3X that of India. Doesn’t mean Bangladesh’s per capita income is more than India’s.
I addressed this point. Their per capita is NOT increasing at 3X India – for that, they’d have to be growing at 10%+ per annum in the last 3 years. That is NOT the case, either nominally or in PPP.
“Bangladesh’s normal GDP/capita growth in last 3 years has NOT been 39 percent. It has been closer to 17%, virtually same growth as India. Nominal GDP/capita is unhelpful, since most goods/services in both countries are produced internally.”
Innumerate, statistically ignorant people like this Priyamvada person are only running pointless deception campaigns.
I stopped reading the article after that ” 2 year catching up” thingy. The IMF WEO October update just came out, and theres not a whimsical chance of B’desh catching India in next 5 years. At best, they MAY catch Pakistan.
The problem with India is it cant help it self and don’t like the fact others are doing lot better. Not just Bangladesh..Vietnam Indonesia Philippines not to mention china all were poorer then India but now suppress the Indian economy in every category. Indian export 2012 was 300 Billion and 2018 still it’s same. Instead of being butt hurt invest in competitiveness and infrastructures. Otherwise Indians and south Asia in general will continue to be poor and lose out to south east and Asian manufacturing powerhouse economies. Just look Vietnam country of mere 80 million export as much as India country of 1.3 Billion.
India is richer than Vietnam, EVEN with much lower literacy rates and some human development parameters.
Smart but misleading economists like Amartya Sen are India’s problem.
Your predictions about Bangladesh socio economical progress reflect your ignorance. Birth rate is lower in Bangladesh than in India. Matter of fact is that Bangladesh is outperforming India in most of the developmental index according to ABD / IMF.
Calling Amatya Sen a misleading economist justified your credential? Kudos to your economic gaan vandar.
India needs to do the following for totally massive and economic economic growth :-
1. Create communities of engineering and consumer/market knowledge (leveraging India’s massive public and private sector infrastructure),
2.work on civic infrastructure, addressing social problems like caste-ism using historical precedents,
3.scientifically model India’s economy and demography
4.work on natural rejuvenation – invest in forests and rain-fed water-sources.
First step is rubbishing fallacious and innumerate trash like this article.
Unfortunately India is all talk no action. In 1990 china and India per capita income was same NOW it is 5 times bigger. Most of the outsource and BPO is going to Philippines, low value manufacturing is shifting to Vietnam Bangladesh and Indonesia. India in last 70 year suffered from policy misleads hence its now facing widening current account deficit…huge public debt. If India need to survive they have to do some thing like China did and now Vietnam consider the next economic tiger. But first we need butt hurt people to accept reality. Indian rupee just lost 14 percent of its value and now worst performing currency in Asia. Only comparing with Pakistan to feel good will not save the day.
See the graph of GNI PPP per capita of India and Bangladesh (with Pakistan thrown in for good measure). Clearly, India is *accelerating away* from Bangladesh.
Bangladesh is not even going to catch up to Pakistan. And whoever said Bangladesh has 39% real growth rate in the last 3 years ?? That means a real growth rate of (1.39)^(1/3) = 1.11 i.e. 11% growth for each of the last 3 years.
All i can say India has failed it’s people with wrong policy and lack of reforms. Its 2018 our country even failed to create toilet for our own citizens. We are a laughing matter around the world, we are still regarding as a third world country with per capita income of 2100 lower then Nigeria. Why Indian politicians keep lying corruption bureaucracy incompetence list goes on. Unless we learn from mistakes nothing will change. Now we compare our self with Bangladesh Pakistan or Nepal because rest of Asia move forward and left behind India long time ago. Just pathetic.
KID u do not have any financial knowledge.
It would take 100 years to Pakistan like if they want at least to economy of BD level
U clearly can google it.
Very inspiring. All of South Asia can see high growth for decades. It requires deeper integration, for SAARC to become a vibrant organisation, India and Pakistan to live peaceably together. Intuition suggests large scale illegal migration from Bangladesh is a thing of the past. We have a lot to learn from them.
U NARROW MINDED INDIANS ARE SIMPLY READY TO ACCEPT THE FAST GROWING ECONOMY OF BANGLADESH ??? INDIA IS DEVELOPING BUT WHEN INDIA WILL PROVIDE TOILET FACILITIES TO 200 MILLION POOR INDIANS WHO COMPLETES THEIR NATURES CALL SPECIALLY INN THE MORNING IN ANY EMPTY FIELDS, DRAINS IN FULL VIEW OF THE TOURISTS WHO WATCH THEM WITH SHOCK ????
Richest region of Bengal, not the poorest region in Pakistan. Bangladesh came into existence BECAUSE of our regional, cultural, and religious differences.
Ground reality is far different.Competition among Mercedes & Rickshaw can be seen in Dhaka itself w/c reflects modern day slavery.Lack of humanism can be seen.Wealthy Bdeshis including doctors still prefer being treated by Indian/Singaporian doctors due to unhuman and rude behaviour of local doctors whereas low income & poor families have compulsion to be harassed & maltreated.If there population gets controlled,no doubt they will obviously do good but the problem is there uncontrollable birth rates due to radical religious beliefs among extremists .
Population growth of Bangladesh is lower than India.
So you are telling me India doesnt have radical Hindu believers?
Haha Indians will always be Indians, looks like the Brits could not teach you slaves, bunch of moaners just like their cricket team. Go fix your country first. We don’t care about you.
It was nice to read a well worded article on a country which we can take pride in giving birth to! I read through all the criticism contained therein. Also, one of the noteworthy point already raised by one of the observers here is that Bangladesh ‘exported their overpopulation’ into India. All this notwithstanding, kudos to Priyamvada Grover to put forth a point that a country as small or as big as one of India’s state is contending to compete with India. Yes, it is a matter of pride for them to be competing with India and come out better. Having said, we have to observe that they had so many hurdles to cross. In its magnanimity, India has bigger and mightier contries to compete with, but we can open discussions on how each of our states are fairing vis-a-vis Bangladesh, or for that matter any country of that size. Many years back, I had given this as a food for thought that the states ought to be run like independent entities encompassing their strengths (and weaknesses as well), winning over them to come out with their own set of winning goals and securing their development plans through direct fundings from domestic or internationalinvestors. Finally it boiled down to the local Startups with international reach. Still we are not too late … as against looking at centre to bail each state out of any of the problems, the states should run themselves as independent international entities. In fact, those states which worked on this model are already doingat par or better than most of their counterparts & countries internationally. Thanks to the writer to bring forth the point here, onec again.
Good na, now the illegals can go back as their country is more promising now!!
The author missed an important point: Bangladesh exported it’s most poors to India and got rid of its poverty. A very smart move by Bangladesh.They are doing it still with the help of Indian libtards and pseudo seculars. Yet it’s very good for us and we can expect that the infiltrators will start going back to Bangladesh because of its improved economic performance.
Who don’t you export India’s poor to some other country and make a smart move too. Also just to let you know : “Yet it’s very good for us….” – No it’s not good for us because the so called infiltrators never agreed they were such and Bangladesh won’t take them anyway even if they agree. So will you try to fight for something where there’s no tangible result in sight or do something else to inprove your country’s condition by focusing elsewhere ?
there is an election this year in Bangladesh
Priyamvada Grover – author of this article – must be contesting.
Abhishek you can be a proud patriot as much as you want by reality will dawn nevertheless. Stop trying to find fault with the author or the article and start searching what can be done to keep India at the top table. There will be many such articles by many other writers and you will get bogged down refuting them on the comments section. Do your original research and send an article to any of the many newspapers in india. You might have a chance then if refuting this article and proving your point.
India needs to liberalise labor laws. A flexible and less restrictive labor market will enable companies to hire more workers.
I see not many people like the fact that Bangladesh is doing better in many different sections than India or Pakistan. Bangladesh made strides in healthcare and social index many many years ago, not a recent phenomenon.
Quite obviously 70years of congress rule not done any good. Even the present bjp govt has had limited success…. Something fundamentally wrong with the manner in which India is governed
inspiring to know consistent growth of bangladesh in last few decades both in economic and social sectors. I always had a cramped up image of bangladesh society of highest population density , population being 16 crore plus for the size of the country.
India should seriously consider providing better connectivity to our north east passing through bangladesh so that our most backward and disconnected part of north eastern states also improves , taking a leaf from Bangla story
Grameen Bank borrowers are killing themselves because they cant pay back their loans. What happened to the first Grameen borrower that he likes to talk about so much? She died in poverty. BRAC with bKash has done more for the country since its inception than Yunus ever has or will.
There’re massive BLUNDERs in the above article, for instance –
Bangladesh PPP GDP/capita is 3524 USD
India PPP GDP/capita is 6426.67 USD
6427/3524 =~ 1.827; there is no way Bangladesh is “catching up” with India in GDP/capita in a couple of years.
This also holds for nominal GDP – Bangladesh’s normal GDP/capita growth in last 3 years has NOT been 39 percent. It has been closer to 17%, virtually same growth as India. Nominal GDP/capita is unhelpful, since most goods/services in both countries are produced internally.
As regards infant mortality, Indian IMR of 32 in 1,300 million is way more credible achievement than Bangladesh’s IMR of 27 in a much smaller population of 150 million.
No it doesn’t. It says Bangladesh’s per capita is increasing at 3X that of India. Doesn’t mean Bangladesh’s per capita income is more than India’s.
I addressed this point. Their per capita is NOT increasing at 3X India – for that, they’d have to be growing at 10%+ per annum in the last 3 years. That is NOT the case, either nominally or in PPP.
“Bangladesh’s normal GDP/capita growth in last 3 years has NOT been 39 percent. It has been closer to 17%, virtually same growth as India. Nominal GDP/capita is unhelpful, since most goods/services in both countries are produced internally.”
Innumerate, statistically ignorant people like this Priyamvada person are only running pointless deception campaigns.
I stopped reading the article after that ” 2 year catching up” thingy. The IMF WEO October update just came out, and theres not a whimsical chance of B’desh catching India in next 5 years. At best, they MAY catch Pakistan.
The problem with India is it cant help it self and don’t like the fact others are doing lot better. Not just Bangladesh..Vietnam Indonesia Philippines not to mention china all were poorer then India but now suppress the Indian economy in every category. Indian export 2012 was 300 Billion and 2018 still it’s same. Instead of being butt hurt invest in competitiveness and infrastructures. Otherwise Indians and south Asia in general will continue to be poor and lose out to south east and Asian manufacturing powerhouse economies. Just look Vietnam country of mere 80 million export as much as India country of 1.3 Billion.
India is richer than Vietnam, EVEN with much lower literacy rates and some human development parameters.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GNP.PCAP.PP.CD
India : 7,060 USD
Vietnam: 6,450 USD
India has actually closed (or broadened) the gap with EACH one of the countries you mentioned – with Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines, and Bangladesh
https://www.google.co.in/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gnp_pcap_pp_cd&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gnp_pcap_pp_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:IND:IDN:VNM:PHL:BGD&ifdim=country&tstart=655756200000&tend=1507833000000&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false
Smart but misleading economists like Amartya Sen are India’s problem.
Your predictions about Bangladesh socio economical progress reflect your ignorance. Birth rate is lower in Bangladesh than in India. Matter of fact is that Bangladesh is outperforming India in most of the developmental index according to ABD / IMF.
Calling Amatya Sen a misleading economist justified your credential? Kudos to your economic gaan vandar.
India needs to do the following for totally massive and economic economic growth :-
1. Create communities of engineering and consumer/market knowledge (leveraging India’s massive public and private sector infrastructure),
2.work on civic infrastructure, addressing social problems like caste-ism using historical precedents,
3.scientifically model India’s economy and demography
4.work on natural rejuvenation – invest in forests and rain-fed water-sources.
First step is rubbishing fallacious and innumerate trash like this article.
Unfortunately India is all talk no action. In 1990 china and India per capita income was same NOW it is 5 times bigger. Most of the outsource and BPO is going to Philippines, low value manufacturing is shifting to Vietnam Bangladesh and Indonesia. India in last 70 year suffered from policy misleads hence its now facing widening current account deficit…huge public debt. If India need to survive they have to do some thing like China did and now Vietnam consider the next economic tiger. But first we need butt hurt people to accept reality. Indian rupee just lost 14 percent of its value and now worst performing currency in Asia. Only comparing with Pakistan to feel good will not save the day.
See the graph of GNI PPP per capita of India and Bangladesh (with Pakistan thrown in for good measure). Clearly, India is *accelerating away* from Bangladesh.
Bangladesh is not even going to catch up to Pakistan. And whoever said Bangladesh has 39% real growth rate in the last 3 years ?? That means a real growth rate of (1.39)^(1/3) = 1.11 i.e. 11% growth for each of the last 3 years.
https://www.google.co.in/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gnp_pcap_pp_cd&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gnp_pcap_pp_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:IND:BGD:PAK&ifdim=country&tstart=655756200000&tend=1507833000000&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false
All i can say India has failed it’s people with wrong policy and lack of reforms. Its 2018 our country even failed to create toilet for our own citizens. We are a laughing matter around the world, we are still regarding as a third world country with per capita income of 2100 lower then Nigeria. Why Indian politicians keep lying corruption bureaucracy incompetence list goes on. Unless we learn from mistakes nothing will change. Now we compare our self with Bangladesh Pakistan or Nepal because rest of Asia move forward and left behind India long time ago. Just pathetic.
KID u do not have any financial knowledge.
It would take 100 years to Pakistan like if they want at least to economy of BD level
U clearly can google it.
Very inspiring. All of South Asia can see high growth for decades. It requires deeper integration, for SAARC to become a vibrant organisation, India and Pakistan to live peaceably together. Intuition suggests large scale illegal migration from Bangladesh is a thing of the past. We have a lot to learn from them.