AICTE has given list of 14 subjects, apart from Physics, Chemistry & Maths, which students can opt for. These include computer science, electronics, IT, biology, entrepreneurship.
The clarification followed news reports about Physics and Mathematics no longer being compulsory for engineering as per the approval handbook for 2021-22 issued by the AICTE.
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It is disaster for engineering education if maths. , Physics are made optional. How do ever meet world standards with such a move. As such most of our engineering graduates are not employable. We should not play with the lives of our youth!
I am in class 12 having sub. PCB and kannada as language and in 10th std. I had computer science .
Now i want to know that , can I have an opportunity get computer science , electronics engineering .please clarify my question.
Think the packages will fall down drastically in all IITs and NITs cause even medical and commerce student will show interest in joining the premium engineering colleges
When PCM is mandatory for engineering course then then there will be no question of quality and standerd. Just like distance education without any practical knowledge.
I think student of class 11/12 should have a choice at school level to study just 2 pure science subjects (out of phy, chem, maths) and 2-3 applied subjects (like CS, IT, engg graphics, electronics etc) . Depending on the college degree they get admitted for they can make it up in college with bridge courses.
But unfortunately in most private schools they do not offer applied subjects in their courses for class 11 and 12. Maybe it is due to lack of skilled teachers. Also is there really a need to push the study of regional languages and English for those taking up science – it is mandatory to study languages in some states.
Ya , I think this is a very good step .
Students can choose subjects based on in which field they want to make their career . For e.g : Students who want to Pursue degree in C.S.E can choose Maths , CS and IT , because to make a career in field of Computer Science , there is no need to study Physics or Chemistry . AICTE made a good decision .
Already , we engineers have to sit with bcom, ba grads and compete with them in workplace, worst, we have to report to them. These breeds are new engineers now, specially in IT companies. I think this is to bring down the cost of employees for IT companies, this has been done.
I don’t think JEE is going to change.
So how will admissions to engg branches like biotech or textiles happen is not clear. Especially for central govt institutions.
All Software Engineers are not equal, the kind of work some do will be different from the kind of work others do, for some advanced mathematics is a must and for some it may not be required. Some may do some testing job, some may do maintenance job, some do installation job, some networking jobs., some develop Operating systems, some work on Embedded systems, so skills and technical knowledge required varies from one profile to other.
Some Colleges will be happy because they are not able to fill seats in some branches of Engineering, some students who just want a Engineering degree may take up some seats now. Colleges will also come up with new branches so that they can admit some more students. Already a student with above average marks in Maths/Physics is finding it difficult to complete Engineering with good marks, most of them are not getting jobs.
If subjects like information technology, computer science, Informatics practices are choosen in 11th and 12th, will that be a challenge again to a student to pursue engineering? Can we go with all computer graded courses?
Its a myth. Not real. Mythology is NOT real. Grow up.
Engineering simply means maths and physics. Even an arts graduate like me recognize that if you are going to study textile engineering you must know about the machines work.
This won’t affect Students who are academically very good …. Aiming at IITs and other premier institutes ….have to go for PCM …because of JEE, CET exam pattern .
But for average highschool student and someone with clarity what he wants to study further this can be great … Eg .student wants to do comp science …. he can choose physics, maths , comp science as main subject in xI , XII th and drops chemistry .
This gives him to study exact sub needed for his further studies .
I am respect to say, I am Meet Vaghamshi and I am from Gujarat. I was worried about PCM subject field. I want to learn Computer Science subject like operating system, AI, ML, DL, Cloud computing and Programming. On Lockdown 2.o, I have learn a python programming and I also worry about Chemistry (like in PCM) Subject is not like a Computer Science. I love my subject Maths , Physics, Computer Science, IT Technology, Software etc, but I don’t like chemistry subject. Golden statements : “More choices mean more opportunities for students. “Thanks you and share it.
Chemistry is not needed for software development. But if you become a hardware design engineer, knowledge of chemistry will be useful.
Flexibility like west actually isn’t contributing to anything beneficial because these old systems actually the reason for the demand of Indian Engineers world wide.
It is a joke..All Engineering studies need Physiscs & Maths. How come some one not interested in Physics and Maths can pursue Engineering. Just for the sake of getting engineering degree.This is going to compromise quality of Engineering Education. It is as good as citizen journalism.
It is disaster for engineering education if maths. , Physics are made optional. How do ever meet world standards with such a move. As such most of our engineering graduates are not employable. We should not play with the lives of our youth!
first shut down more than 1000 poor quality colleges running like a factory
The best of course is the syllabus for the “Masters in Entire Political Science”. NO SUBJECTS REQUIRED.
Never boil the same tea twice. It tastes bitter 2nd time. Indians are learning it at a great cost.
Does this mean a commerce student who studied cs and business studies can pursue engineering?
I am in class 12 having sub. PCB and kannada as language and in 10th std. I had computer science .
Now i want to know that , can I have an opportunity get computer science , electronics engineering .please clarify my question.
This decision is wrong. Engineering is essentially applied science. A knowledge of MPC is essential for learning any branch of engineering.
Think the packages will fall down drastically in all IITs and NITs cause even medical and commerce student will show interest in joining the premium engineering colleges
When PCM is mandatory for engineering course then then there will be no question of quality and standerd. Just like distance education without any practical knowledge.
I think student of class 11/12 should have a choice at school level to study just 2 pure science subjects (out of phy, chem, maths) and 2-3 applied subjects (like CS, IT, engg graphics, electronics etc) . Depending on the college degree they get admitted for they can make it up in college with bridge courses.
But unfortunately in most private schools they do not offer applied subjects in their courses for class 11 and 12. Maybe it is due to lack of skilled teachers. Also is there really a need to push the study of regional languages and English for those taking up science – it is mandatory to study languages in some states.
Ya , I think this is a very good step .
Students can choose subjects based on in which field they want to make their career . For e.g : Students who want to Pursue degree in C.S.E can choose Maths , CS and IT , because to make a career in field of Computer Science , there is no need to study Physics or Chemistry . AICTE made a good decision .
Already , we engineers have to sit with bcom, ba grads and compete with them in workplace, worst, we have to report to them. These breeds are new engineers now, specially in IT companies. I think this is to bring down the cost of employees for IT companies, this has been done.
I don’t think JEE is going to change.
So how will admissions to engg branches like biotech or textiles happen is not clear. Especially for central govt institutions.
For core branches like mech, electrical you simply cannot ignore physics and maths at school level.
Chemistry cannot be ignored for branches like chemical or petroleum.
It is pointless for a CS (software) student to study physics or chemistry. Even exposure to calculus is not required to be a software engineer!
They should give out more details about the prerequisites for each branch of engineering.
All Software Engineers are not equal, the kind of work some do will be different from the kind of work others do, for some advanced mathematics is a must and for some it may not be required. Some may do some testing job, some may do maintenance job, some do installation job, some networking jobs., some develop Operating systems, some work on Embedded systems, so skills and technical knowledge required varies from one profile to other.
Some Colleges will be happy because they are not able to fill seats in some branches of Engineering, some students who just want a Engineering degree may take up some seats now. Colleges will also come up with new branches so that they can admit some more students. Already a student with above average marks in Maths/Physics is finding it difficult to complete Engineering with good marks, most of them are not getting jobs.
If subjects like information technology, computer science, Informatics practices are choosen in 11th and 12th, will that be a challenge again to a student to pursue engineering? Can we go with all computer graded courses?
A move in the right direction, remember the famous PUSHPAKAVIMAN was made without mathemetics !!!
Its a myth. Not real. Mythology is NOT real. Grow up.
Engineering simply means maths and physics. Even an arts graduate like me recognize that if you are going to study textile engineering you must know about the machines work.
This won’t affect Students who are academically very good …. Aiming at IITs and other premier institutes ….have to go for PCM …because of JEE, CET exam pattern .
But for average highschool student and someone with clarity what he wants to study further this can be great … Eg .student wants to do comp science …. he can choose physics, maths , comp science as main subject in xI , XII th and drops chemistry .
This gives him to study exact sub needed for his further studies .
I am respect to say, I am Meet Vaghamshi and I am from Gujarat. I was worried about PCM subject field. I want to learn Computer Science subject like operating system, AI, ML, DL, Cloud computing and Programming. On Lockdown 2.o, I have learn a python programming and I also worry about Chemistry (like in PCM) Subject is not like a Computer Science. I love my subject Maths , Physics, Computer Science, IT Technology, Software etc, but I don’t like chemistry subject. Golden statements : “More choices mean more opportunities for students. “Thanks you and share it.
Chemistry is not needed for software development. But if you become a hardware design engineer, knowledge of chemistry will be useful.
Flexibility like west actually isn’t contributing to anything beneficial because these old systems actually the reason for the demand of Indian Engineers world wide.
It is a joke..All Engineering studies need Physiscs & Maths. How come some one not interested in Physics and Maths can pursue Engineering. Just for the sake of getting engineering degree.This is going to compromise quality of Engineering Education. It is as good as citizen journalism.
Already lakhs of poor quality candidate in the market