The meeting between S Jaishankar & his US counterpart Mike Pompeo comes as the India-China border stand-off in Ladakh looks set to continue through the region's harsh winter.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin said efforts should be made to enhance mutual trust, instead of targeting a third party or harming third party's interests.
During the visit on 6-7 October, Jaishankar will also be meeting his US, Australian & Japanese counterparts — Mike Pompeo, Marise Payne and Motegi Toshimitsu — separately.
This year, Jawan and The Kerala Story both won National Awards. The irony was impossible to miss. One critiqued the system, the other endorsed its narratives. The dichotomy says more about India’s cultural schizophrenia than any film review ever could.
New CPI series will take 2024 as base year, will provide more accurate measure of inflation, spending on digital services. Expected to enhance representation and reliability, says Saurabh Garg.
The agreement, signed after meeting between Rajnath and US Secretary of War Pete Hegseth on sidelines of ADMM-Plus in Kuala Lumpur, aims to deepen bilateral ties in the critical sector.
This world is being restructured and redrawn by one man, and what’s his power? It’s not his formidable military. It’s trade. With China, it turned on him.
Obvious military option left off the table but most likely to succeed is to attack. Hit the G219 and cut the supply lines to ĹAC. Liberate Gilgit Baltistan and foil CPEC dreams of Xi. History is made by the victors…meek inhert a moth eaten map of the idea that is India.
None of the above options is good for India, a country that has remained impoverished during the entrie period of its independence, chronically suffers from massive unemployment problem and currently uncontrollably going through a plummeting economy. Given this condition, India’s approach to China has to be fundamentally different than the course that the Babus have charted and elected politicians have dutifully endorsed. There is no way India can face up to China, QUAD or no QUAD, or US or no US. For all practical purposes, China, a super power already, also happens to be a wounded tiger, with countries big and small, conspiring to deny her the full exercise of her sovereignty by helping the renegade province of Taiwan to remain separate from the mainland. But India and another QUAD aspirant Japan must look at themselves first. While Japan is seeking the return of the Kuril islands that it had lost to Russia in the world war perpetrated by itself. India too had annexed Portuguese colony of Goa by force and an independent kingdom, Sikkim by treachery. But, potentially, at the heart of it, China represents a major force for growth, particularly for the countries immediately surrounding it including India. Such an approach is only hurting India. For instance, India spent a vast sum of its precious resources recently to buy a big squadron of Rafales each of which cost Rs. 1600 crores. Converted into US$ it comes to some $21 million that could have created millions and millions of jobs in rural India in particular. This is simply crazy and suicidal. So India’s policy towards China must be one of befriending it and benefit from its close association with it, not alienating it by pretending to join QUAD or Indo-Pacific Strategy that are essentially aimed at containing it. . A QUAD can never deter determined China that is simply growing in strength exponentially. The solution lies in helping Taiwan unite with China honorably and welcoming the latter as a major power in the comity of nations. For America’s part, it knows that it is a declining and retreating power, trying to withdraw from all theaters including NATO and Middle East
The practical option is to continue build up of infrastructure on the border, get required equipment to match the Chinese, get Army and Air Force to act in sync and et your Navy to be ready. And wait for the Chinese to act and cross the bridge when time comes, no matter what is the cost !! Meanwhile, pin prick China with Quad, Tibet, Taiwan, Hong Kong etc. along with reducing trade imbalance massively in next year or two.
Let us worrying about China any more; Modi and the Armed Forces have sorted it.
A really tough call in wake of the economic crisis. However, I would chose 3 of the above options for simultaneous activation and the fourth to be activated if and when circumstances permit.
The other major shortcoming we have to address is on Information based digital war where China is far ahead.
As of now we should try to keep China engaged on the SCS by threat of Quad+ as a SEA NATO while we go ahead with building up our capabilities.
So I would immediately:
(1) Initiate operations in Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong. Get in touch with Inner Mongolia for some covert assistance. The Stand and even Russia could be called for limited support.
(2) Sit out in Ladakh but get additional equipments from US, Israel and other allies for an active Information based hot border without allowing it to become kinetic.
(3) Sign up with Quad + without any further delay for making South China and Taiwan an active front imposing serious costs on China by creating a clear impression that of opening of one front- SCS or any land border Thank you and wishing you the same immediately activate the second thus building up commitment with Taiwan, Vietnam and other countries in the region of response at other fronts.
(4) Preparing for full scale Ladakh border war to push Chinese to pre April 20 position and even further.
Another sophisticated way of saying that we should just accept Chinese suzerainty over Asia to avoid confrontation.
Belt and Road project is bad for Asia and will end up enslaving many Asian countries by China. First go and study the fine print of the project before commenting on it.
Stop hating US and West all the time. China is proving to have worse imperial mindset than US and Europe.
Indians never thought of war with China and so did not invest in military hardwares. Congress always wanted weak military and never thought of catching up china militarily. To hold Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh India needs border road network and dedicated high altitude mountain division army units. From 2004 to 2014 under UPA and Manmohan Singh govt indian army was neglected and no new aircrafts and upgradation of army was done. It is only now so much is being done to match Chinese. Wait for full rafale planes and Russian missile shield to come in order to teach cunning chinese a lesson.
India is paying for Modi misadventures ……………..What did India get from Modi Aug 5 Kashmir madness ??…………….invasion by China & a looming two front war…………..India now needs someone sensible to take out of this geopolitical quagmire !!!
The United States is the only saving grace for India right now, keeping the Chinese at the LAC, without great America, Ladakh , Arunachal Pradesh first and then next the NorthEast, gone , annexed. So value your friendship with America and quickly build up defenses. Not an inch of India will and should be lost, however what exactly is the border that needs to be determined and India has to be mighty in this regard. I hope this ends well for us all.
India should wait and watch for the 1. Jo biden treaty towards India 2.S-400air defence system supply from Russia 3. Rest of rafale supply from France 4.Some growth of GDP since China GDP is almost unbroken during pandemic 5.Stretegic partnership among Quad
There is a sixth and the bestoption: Accept the reality on the ground as it is today, make up with China, and get it to define the LAC. India can’t afford enmity with a superpower like China with which it shares thousands of miles border. 1. Forget even a limited war. A modern war would be very expensive, and may not give desired results. 2. Even Sitting out wouldn’t change anything, but would be very expensive. 3. Rev up the Quad: No country wants a war. Priorities of the US would be to revive its broken economy, and not China or war. Trump pulled out American troops from Afghanistan after spending there billions of dollars in two decades,. It also pulled out its troops from Germany, a NATO ally. It wouldn’t now commit its troops against China with which it has no land dispute, and with which its trade is at its peak. The US govt is under pressure from its industries and businesses to ease up with China. The US aircraft carrier battle groups on China’s doorstep don’t mean anything. They have been visiting South China Sea for years now. The new Biden administration is going to be far gentler to China. Australia is also trying hard to pull out of a recession with the help of Chinese imports. It wouldn’t strain its relations with China. Japan also has lot of investments in China. 3. Interfering with shipments to and from China in the strait of Malacca is just not possible. Even the US wouldn’t;’t dare to do that, because such an action would be considered by China “an act of war”! all this is wishful thinking. 4. Launching a hybrid war also wouldn’t result in anything desirable.
The only viable option when China is knocking at India’s northern door and Pakistan always on the go in the west, is to prevent China and Pakistan combining up their resources. That can be prevented if QUAD takes the responsibility of preventing both China and Pakistan to Combine. Hence QUAD is the only viable option. Pakistan can be prevented in its nefarious choice if US fleet keeps visiting the Arabian Sea and letting Pakistan know that any bad design together with China will be suitably answered. It will also open door for greater military and technological co-operation between India and US. The latter is a permanent solution to China and Pakistan combining their resources to attack India.
Hindus need to stop day dreaming. The other members of Quad may hold some naval exercises, but they do not have borders with China and Pak.. They Americans and others are not going to come and die for India. And if a war broke between India and China, they are not going to cut business with China for India. Earlier, Hindus used to think Israel will help them. Well, Israelis will sell weapons – to both sides.
Hindus need to ask why they cannot get on with Pak, and China and all the neighbours. In fact, they cannot get on with other Indians.
Forget about other Indians. Hindus cannot get along within themselves. Upper caste hindu girls falls for a lower caste hindu boy and they will not let the couple marry, even today.Especially the upper caste , they live in some kind of fake caste pride and will never let it go. In fact , upper caste Hindu will let marry a Muslim boy but not lower caste Hindu. This was one of the reason for conversion to Islam . There is no unity amongst Hindus. Hindus are united at a very superficial level because of Islam.Thanks to Islam otherwise there discriminatory mindset towards lower caste will never go. In case Islam is gone this caste discrimination will again reach its peak.
Forget about other Indians. Hindus cannot get along within themselves. Upper caste hindu girls falls for a lower caste hindu boy and they will not let the couple marry, even today.Especially the upper caste , they live in some kind of fake caste pride and will never let it go. In fact , upper caste Hindu will let marry a Muslim boy but not lower caste Hindu. This was one of the reason for conversion to Islam . There is no unity amongst Hindus. Hindus are united at a very superficial level because of Islam.Thanks to Islam otherwise there discriminatory mindset towards lower caste will never go. In case Islam is gone this caste discrimination will again reach its peak.
India is a more chaotic country with much more ongoing separatist violence. There are more pressure points for China to repay India in the same coin if India tries to incite secession in Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, or Taiwan. The author also claims that the “systems are there” but does not go into details. This is likely because India doesn’t have any assets in any of these places.
China has three easy to implement options for retaliating against India.
1. Provide diplomatic support and funding to Khalistan groups abroad.
2. Ship guns to Northeast insurgent groups.
3. Encourage Northeast insurgent groups to sell some of the guns to Naxalites.
Indians are so divided that they do not understand. The Chinese can also support Kashmiris.
While India is wary of the connectivity of the small neighbors with China, it speeds up building up the connectivity with China under the name of “face off” in the border. Once the border issues are solved…imagine…I see promising future for that area.
Even sitting out is no option. The best option is partnering with China and equip India meanwhile.
Had India been positive towards the Belt and Road initiative, Pakistan wouldn’t have had this upper hand and cozy relationship with China. When Chinese are heavily invested in India they wouldn’t want a confrontation either.
Instead of using the opportunity we went scared, sceptical and defensive. Even when USA is inciting an Indo China war, they are cleverly using the manufacturing hub of China.
By the way, if there’s a war it won’t be a “limited war”. For Xi and Modi it’ll definitely be a prestigious issue to come out of it as a decisive winner, which won’t end in a limited war!
Awww So you are using her ‘hybrid warfare’ against India. Pakistani maggots posting under any name would be picked in no time. BRI would eventually lead to China replacing the US and that is detrimental to India’s future. China’s ultimate decimation should be our only long term goal. As long as there is a Communist China, it will be a threat to India.
Hope you are aware off the OBOR, if yes then such a comment wouldn’t have come
Another option is to launch a hot war and send all the Bharat Mata Nationalists like RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal etc. to the front line. We have too many of them, and so far they have shown their prowess fighting against minorities inside India. So why not deploy such brave Hindu fighters where it matters ?
Rasgolla, your hate comments against Indians and Hindus is particular have gone too far.
Perhaps an elaborate full body circumcision is the need of the hour for you.
Obvious military option left off the table but most likely to succeed is to attack. Hit the G219 and cut the supply lines to ĹAC. Liberate Gilgit Baltistan and foil CPEC dreams of Xi. History is made by the victors…meek inhert a moth eaten map of the idea that is India.
None of the above options is good for India, a country that has remained impoverished during the entrie period of its independence, chronically suffers from massive unemployment problem and currently uncontrollably going through a plummeting economy. Given this condition, India’s approach to China has to be fundamentally different than the course that the Babus have charted and elected politicians have dutifully endorsed. There is no way India can face up to China, QUAD or no QUAD, or US or no US. For all practical purposes, China, a super power already, also happens to be a wounded tiger, with countries big and small, conspiring to deny her the full exercise of her sovereignty by helping the renegade province of Taiwan to remain separate from the mainland. But India and another QUAD aspirant Japan must look at themselves first. While Japan is seeking the return of the Kuril islands that it had lost to Russia in the world war perpetrated by itself. India too had annexed Portuguese colony of Goa by force and an independent kingdom, Sikkim by treachery. But, potentially, at the heart of it, China represents a major force for growth, particularly for the countries immediately surrounding it including India. Such an approach is only hurting India. For instance, India spent a vast sum of its precious resources recently to buy a big squadron of Rafales each of which cost Rs. 1600 crores. Converted into US$ it comes to some $21 million that could have created millions and millions of jobs in rural India in particular. This is simply crazy and suicidal. So India’s policy towards China must be one of befriending it and benefit from its close association with it, not alienating it by pretending to join QUAD or Indo-Pacific Strategy that are essentially aimed at containing it. . A QUAD can never deter determined China that is simply growing in strength exponentially. The solution lies in helping Taiwan unite with China honorably and welcoming the latter as a major power in the comity of nations. For America’s part, it knows that it is a declining and retreating power, trying to withdraw from all theaters including NATO and Middle East
The practical option is to continue build up of infrastructure on the border, get required equipment to match the Chinese, get Army and Air Force to act in sync and et your Navy to be ready. And wait for the Chinese to act and cross the bridge when time comes, no matter what is the cost !! Meanwhile, pin prick China with Quad, Tibet, Taiwan, Hong Kong etc. along with reducing trade imbalance massively in next year or two.
Let us worrying about China any more; Modi and the Armed Forces have sorted it.
A really tough call in wake of the economic crisis. However, I would chose 3 of the above options for simultaneous activation and the fourth to be activated if and when circumstances permit.
The other major shortcoming we have to address is on Information based digital war where China is far ahead.
As of now we should try to keep China engaged on the SCS by threat of Quad+ as a SEA NATO while we go ahead with building up our capabilities.
So I would immediately:
(1) Initiate operations in Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong. Get in touch with Inner Mongolia for some covert assistance. The Stand and even Russia could be called for limited support.
(2) Sit out in Ladakh but get additional equipments from US, Israel and other allies for an active Information based hot border without allowing it to become kinetic.
(3) Sign up with Quad + without any further delay for making South China and Taiwan an active front imposing serious costs on China by creating a clear impression that of opening of one front- SCS or any land border Thank you and wishing you the same immediately activate the second thus building up commitment with Taiwan, Vietnam and other countries in the region of response at other fronts.
(4) Preparing for full scale Ladakh border war to push Chinese to pre April 20 position and even further.
I wonder how much money Cashstraped The Print is getting from the Chinks as the Dirty dynasty is getting.
LOL
Another sophisticated way of saying that we should just accept Chinese suzerainty over Asia to avoid confrontation.
Belt and Road project is bad for Asia and will end up enslaving many Asian countries by China. First go and study the fine print of the project before commenting on it.
Stop hating US and West all the time. China is proving to have worse imperial mindset than US and Europe.
Alok Sharma (^) is a Chinese guy 🙂
They were hand in glove with Pakistan before they even approached India.
Indians never thought of war with China and so did not invest in military hardwares. Congress always wanted weak military and never thought of catching up china militarily. To hold Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh India needs border road network and dedicated high altitude mountain division army units. From 2004 to 2014 under UPA and Manmohan Singh govt indian army was neglected and no new aircrafts and upgradation of army was done. It is only now so much is being done to match Chinese. Wait for full rafale planes and Russian missile shield to come in order to teach cunning chinese a lesson.
India is paying for Modi misadventures ……………..What did India get from Modi Aug 5 Kashmir madness ??…………….invasion by China & a looming two front war…………..India now needs someone sensible to take out of this geopolitical quagmire !!!
The United States is the only saving grace for India right now, keeping the Chinese at the LAC, without great America, Ladakh , Arunachal Pradesh first and then next the NorthEast, gone , annexed. So value your friendship with America and quickly build up defenses. Not an inch of India will and should be lost, however what exactly is the border that needs to be determined and India has to be mighty in this regard. I hope this ends well for us all.
China has India’s land which it occupies. Why Modi does not initiate a war against China and try to get back its lost land?
All I know is, that this Modi’s deployment is a show because of Bihar election. Imagine he does not even call China by its name.
This is pitiful from him to fool his own folks.
India should wait and watch for the 1. Jo biden treaty towards India 2.S-400air defence system supply from Russia 3. Rest of rafale supply from France 4.Some growth of GDP since China GDP is almost unbroken during pandemic 5.Stretegic partnership among Quad
There is a sixth and the bestoption: Accept the reality on the ground as it is today, make up with China, and get it to define the LAC. India can’t afford enmity with a superpower like China with which it shares thousands of miles border. 1. Forget even a limited war. A modern war would be very expensive, and may not give desired results. 2. Even Sitting out wouldn’t change anything, but would be very expensive. 3. Rev up the Quad: No country wants a war. Priorities of the US would be to revive its broken economy, and not China or war. Trump pulled out American troops from Afghanistan after spending there billions of dollars in two decades,. It also pulled out its troops from Germany, a NATO ally. It wouldn’t now commit its troops against China with which it has no land dispute, and with which its trade is at its peak. The US govt is under pressure from its industries and businesses to ease up with China. The US aircraft carrier battle groups on China’s doorstep don’t mean anything. They have been visiting South China Sea for years now. The new Biden administration is going to be far gentler to China. Australia is also trying hard to pull out of a recession with the help of Chinese imports. It wouldn’t strain its relations with China. Japan also has lot of investments in China. 3. Interfering with shipments to and from China in the strait of Malacca is just not possible. Even the US wouldn’t;’t dare to do that, because such an action would be considered by China “an act of war”! all this is wishful thinking. 4. Launching a hybrid war also wouldn’t result in anything desirable.
A strengthened submarine fleet with mass destruction capacity will be a game changer
Bad options presented here.
The only viable option when China is knocking at India’s northern door and Pakistan always on the go in the west, is to prevent China and Pakistan combining up their resources. That can be prevented if QUAD takes the responsibility of preventing both China and Pakistan to Combine. Hence QUAD is the only viable option. Pakistan can be prevented in its nefarious choice if US fleet keeps visiting the Arabian Sea and letting Pakistan know that any bad design together with China will be suitably answered. It will also open door for greater military and technological co-operation between India and US. The latter is a permanent solution to China and Pakistan combining their resources to attack India.
Hindus need to stop day dreaming. The other members of Quad may hold some naval exercises, but they do not have borders with China and Pak.. They Americans and others are not going to come and die for India. And if a war broke between India and China, they are not going to cut business with China for India. Earlier, Hindus used to think Israel will help them. Well, Israelis will sell weapons – to both sides.
Hindus need to ask why they cannot get on with Pak, and China and all the neighbours. In fact, they cannot get on with other Indians.
Forget about other Indians. Hindus cannot get along within themselves. Upper caste hindu girls falls for a lower caste hindu boy and they will not let the couple marry, even today.Especially the upper caste , they live in some kind of fake caste pride and will never let it go. In fact , upper caste Hindu will let marry a Muslim boy but not lower caste Hindu. This was one of the reason for conversion to Islam . There is no unity amongst Hindus. Hindus are united at a very superficial level because of Islam.Thanks to Islam otherwise there discriminatory mindset towards lower caste will never go. In case Islam is gone this caste discrimination will again reach its peak.
Forget about other Indians. Hindus cannot get along within themselves. Upper caste hindu girls falls for a lower caste hindu boy and they will not let the couple marry, even today.Especially the upper caste , they live in some kind of fake caste pride and will never let it go. In fact , upper caste Hindu will let marry a Muslim boy but not lower caste Hindu. This was one of the reason for conversion to Islam . There is no unity amongst Hindus. Hindus are united at a very superficial level because of Islam.Thanks to Islam otherwise there discriminatory mindset towards lower caste will never go. In case Islam is gone this caste discrimination will again reach its peak.
India is a more chaotic country with much more ongoing separatist violence. There are more pressure points for China to repay India in the same coin if India tries to incite secession in Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, or Taiwan. The author also claims that the “systems are there” but does not go into details. This is likely because India doesn’t have any assets in any of these places.
China has three easy to implement options for retaliating against India.
1. Provide diplomatic support and funding to Khalistan groups abroad.
2. Ship guns to Northeast insurgent groups.
3. Encourage Northeast insurgent groups to sell some of the guns to Naxalites.
Indians are so divided that they do not understand. The Chinese can also support Kashmiris.
While India is wary of the connectivity of the small neighbors with China, it speeds up building up the connectivity with China under the name of “face off” in the border. Once the border issues are solved…imagine…I see promising future for that area.
Even sitting out is no option. The best option is partnering with China and equip India meanwhile.
Had India been positive towards the Belt and Road initiative, Pakistan wouldn’t have had this upper hand and cozy relationship with China. When Chinese are heavily invested in India they wouldn’t want a confrontation either.
Instead of using the opportunity we went scared, sceptical and defensive. Even when USA is inciting an Indo China war, they are cleverly using the manufacturing hub of China.
By the way, if there’s a war it won’t be a “limited war”. For Xi and Modi it’ll definitely be a prestigious issue to come out of it as a decisive winner, which won’t end in a limited war!
Think long term
Awww So you are using her ‘hybrid warfare’ against India. Pakistani maggots posting under any name would be picked in no time. BRI would eventually lead to China replacing the US and that is detrimental to India’s future. China’s ultimate decimation should be our only long term goal. As long as there is a Communist China, it will be a threat to India.
Hope you are aware off the OBOR, if yes then such a comment wouldn’t have come
Another option is to launch a hot war and send all the Bharat Mata Nationalists like RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal etc. to the front line. We have too many of them, and so far they have shown their prowess fighting against minorities inside India. So why not deploy such brave Hindu fighters where it matters ?
Rasgolla, your hate comments against Indians and Hindus is particular have gone too far.
Perhaps an elaborate full body circumcision is the need of the hour for you.