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I donot know British System … However American System stands out so much superior for Judicial Independence. Judges once confirmed are there for life , beyond any personal fear or greed …. yes they lean one way or the other , but that’s their conscience and a sense of legacy over generations.
Few people alive today will be remembered 100 years from now , but US Supreme Court judges will be … they already have a place in History , and if we can fathom human psychology … no one, at least reaching that eminence , has ever wanted to be known as a lackey or buyable commodity for the future generations.
President Truman even when financially very hard pressed , refused all offers of Company Board Membership etc , which wanted to exploit his previous offices of POTUS.
India as the largest democracy must have the same system …. Supreme Court Judges for life …. mindful only of the Law and their place in History .
The defence of former CJI’s appointment primarily rests on precedence (wrong), that he was dissenter against BJP ( so BJP is being magnanimous here )& finally RS seat is not such a lucrative deal anyway. Any man of below average intellect would find it an insult to respond to such arguments, so shameless are they. But I would anyway like to quote caeser, Caeser’s wife must be above suspicion.
Absolutely agree. There can be no justification for this.
Multiple wrongs do not provide a precedent for making another one. The ruling party in India wants to take shelter under that. Late Arun Jaitley must be wishing that he was alive to prevent this.
I hope there is a big mirror in Ranjan Gogoi’s home, where he can look at himself with the image of the blind-folded nyaya devata in the background. He mentioned judges decide on their conscience, perhaps he should have confined that statement to himself. Judges decide based on established laws, constitution and preceding judgements and in case delivering justice on humanitarian grounds use their conscience. This person is a shameful insult to the some of the true present day SC judges. Not condoning such prior appointments which should have been equally condemned,if not more. Read Siddharth Vardarajan’s and Mahua Moitra’s well written article in “thewire.in” on this subject.
The press conference of the four supreme court judges was wafer thin line between dissent and professional ethics. Such a issue at highest constitutional office is definately unbecoming. Assume these four judges are Sri M.C.Chagla ,Sri Hidaitullah ,Sai shabarwala and Doli Sobarjee , could anybody think these judges would had had such a press conference in the similar circumstances.I apologize if my writing comes with in the ambit of contempt : it is question of jurisprudence in larger sense : is it the way how a civil dispute of title deed was to be judged. How come in many cases unanimous judgements were delivered. Judgements delivered without authors signature .
No, it does not come as contempt. Don’t worry, what you have written is a a mix of partial and absolute lies and is nothing more than a joke.
Dont accept it but it has happened in a secular country. Verdict given to the demolisher or in favor of majority. Why was CBI inquiry not allowed in Rafale and look today Anil ambani banks like YES bank and even Chinese banks are sueing him. But these judges didnt even listen to france president. All these facts are jokes fr you that’s why this kind of majority has brought GDP to 4% from 9% and created joblessness in a country of 137 cr.
joblessness is a total different matter 96% graduates of India are unemployable so unemployment will stay there
Yes, he dissented. Came the harassment case. He was shattered. He looked around for friends. Did not get any from the progressive lobby. They instead asked for fair hearing. Support came from Arun Jaitley. Then he gave assent.
Those criticising Gogoi are playing ‘politics’, where facts and logic are buried under convenient and selective memories. Example. Mohindar Singh Gill, ex CEC, a Constitutional authority ,who enforced use of EVMs which RG and his gang now condemn, , was made RS member, and then also made a Minister. HYPOCRISY !
Don’t be an ultimate loser. If you really want to justify the present wrongs of the government in 5 years with the previous wrongs in the 70 years, we are losing as a citizen. Do you really want all the wrongs committed in 70 years to be bundle-packed and delivered in 10 years by the current government?
Wasn’t BJP elected to do things differently? BJP sure talked about chaal (ways of functioning), chehera (face) and charitra (character). They made the moral high ground a big plank in the election. BJP said their politics is of suchita and shudhta (good character and purity in public life) . Really? BJP party with difference is using sins of Congress to justify their even worst actions.
Well, retired CJI Ranjan Gogoi turned out to be just like any BJP politicians. Gogoi talked eloquently about high values and principles but did exactly opposite.
Is author expecting people to swallow worst actions of BJP in last six years? Get Real my dear friend.
Hitesh please do not respond to criticism of unsavoury characters that have thrived under earlier dispensation. Infact the harsh criticism and vilification of Justice GOGOI by these unsavoury characters has confirmed the importance of the appointment of Justice GOGOI to Rajyasabha
This BJP VP has conveniently forgotten former CJI P Sathasivam who after absolving Amit Shah was appointed Gov of Kerala by Modi Govt Why was it not quid pro quo just like Gogoi accepting sealed envelopes to decide the cases.
Yane ki, ‘Naya India’ toh bilkul purana India jaisa nikla!!
Only maybe a little worse. You seem intent on proving that old saying, BJP = Congress + cow!
You could have mentioned what those credentials were, because the ones that stand out are Gogoi’s verdicts in his final flurry, which were ALL in favour of the government. Then there’s also the case of the sealed cover, a subterfuge on the people of India, helping the government win cases without any argument as such.
Sure, debate would be good, but we both know it will never happen under this government. Obviously you wouldn’t agree, but one hopes that Gogoi’s stated aim to get the government and courts closer will not happen, and that the judiciary remains independent and fearless!
Yes, it would have been a huge risk to the Government not to make him CJI despite seniority and the rock-solid convention on this. it would have been against the Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court too.
Yane ki, ye ‘Naya India’ bilkul purana India jaisa he!!
If anything, a little worse!! You seem to be supporting that old saying, BJP = Congress + Cow!!
It would have helped if you mentioned what those credentials are, because the most obvious ones are Gogoi’s final judgements that ALL favoured the BJP government. There’s also the case of sealed covers that Gogoi used as subterfuge against the people of India, so that the government can win a case without any argument as such.
Sure a debate and some decisions would be good, but we both know that it’ll never happen under this government! Obviously you wouldn’t agree, but one hopes that Gogoi’s stated aim of bringing the judiciary and government closer to each other does not come to fruition, and the judiciary stays independant and fearless.
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones on others. There is nothing the BJP is doing now, that the Congress didn’t do earlier. The media which was silent then, doesn’t have a moral right to outrage now. People are not fools.
Hello, this is not party A or party B. But about what is expected by citizens of India. Stop whataboutery.
I could see the pain in the Vice President’s eyes when he presided over the swearing in of Mr R Gogoi, MP. Then read Pratap Bhanu Mehta’s searing column in the Indian Express. The rhinos in Kaziranga National Park would die to have such a thick skin.
‘The rhinos in Kaziranga National Park would die to have such a thick skin.”
But Indian secularists have thick skin comparable to that of Triceratops, otherwise Harsh mander, Ram Puniyani, mani Shankar Aiyar, Siddhartha Bhatia etc. would have gone back to Pakistan to fight for secularism there. but these shameless people stay in India and have thick enough skin to lecture Hindus, forgetting conveniently that it is Hindus who took pity on them and took them in and they way they are paying back will shame even Ghori.
This vice president, I forget his name at this instant, looks like a rhino to me! No sensitive human being can have a jaw and a voice like his
Rebellion of Justice Ranjan gogoi was against CJI Deepak Misra, who was not exactly a protege of the present government. So, Gogoi’s rebellion was probably a plus point in the account of judges kept by BJP.
I donot know British System … However American System stands out so much superior for Judicial Independence. Judges once confirmed are there for life , beyond any personal fear or greed …. yes they lean one way or the other , but that’s their conscience and a sense of legacy over generations.
Few people alive today will be remembered 100 years from now , but US Supreme Court judges will be … they already have a place in History , and if we can fathom human psychology … no one, at least reaching that eminence , has ever wanted to be known as a lackey or buyable commodity for the future generations.
President Truman even when financially very hard pressed , refused all offers of Company Board Membership etc , which wanted to exploit his previous offices of POTUS.
India as the largest democracy must have the same system …. Supreme Court Judges for life …. mindful only of the Law and their place in History .
The defence of former CJI’s appointment primarily rests on precedence (wrong), that he was dissenter against BJP ( so BJP is being magnanimous here )& finally RS seat is not such a lucrative deal anyway. Any man of below average intellect would find it an insult to respond to such arguments, so shameless are they. But I would anyway like to quote caeser, Caeser’s wife must be above suspicion.
Absolutely agree. There can be no justification for this.
Multiple wrongs do not provide a precedent for making another one. The ruling party in India wants to take shelter under that. Late Arun Jaitley must be wishing that he was alive to prevent this.
I hope there is a big mirror in Ranjan Gogoi’s home, where he can look at himself with the image of the blind-folded nyaya devata in the background. He mentioned judges decide on their conscience, perhaps he should have confined that statement to himself. Judges decide based on established laws, constitution and preceding judgements and in case delivering justice on humanitarian grounds use their conscience. This person is a shameful insult to the some of the true present day SC judges. Not condoning such prior appointments which should have been equally condemned,if not more. Read Siddharth Vardarajan’s and Mahua Moitra’s well written article in “thewire.in” on this subject.
The press conference of the four supreme court judges was wafer thin line between dissent and professional ethics. Such a issue at highest constitutional office is definately unbecoming. Assume these four judges are Sri M.C.Chagla ,Sri Hidaitullah ,Sai shabarwala and Doli Sobarjee , could anybody think these judges would had had such a press conference in the similar circumstances.I apologize if my writing comes with in the ambit of contempt : it is question of jurisprudence in larger sense : is it the way how a civil dispute of title deed was to be judged. How come in many cases unanimous judgements were delivered. Judgements delivered without authors signature .
No, it does not come as contempt. Don’t worry, what you have written is a a mix of partial and absolute lies and is nothing more than a joke.
Dont accept it but it has happened in a secular country. Verdict given to the demolisher or in favor of majority. Why was CBI inquiry not allowed in Rafale and look today Anil ambani banks like YES bank and even Chinese banks are sueing him. But these judges didnt even listen to france president. All these facts are jokes fr you that’s why this kind of majority has brought GDP to 4% from 9% and created joblessness in a country of 137 cr.
joblessness is a total different matter 96% graduates of India are unemployable so unemployment will stay there
Yes, he dissented. Came the harassment case. He was shattered. He looked around for friends. Did not get any from the progressive lobby. They instead asked for fair hearing. Support came from Arun Jaitley. Then he gave assent.
Those criticising Gogoi are playing ‘politics’, where facts and logic are buried under convenient and selective memories. Example. Mohindar Singh Gill, ex CEC, a Constitutional authority ,who enforced use of EVMs which RG and his gang now condemn, , was made RS member, and then also made a Minister. HYPOCRISY !
Don’t be an ultimate loser. If you really want to justify the present wrongs of the government in 5 years with the previous wrongs in the 70 years, we are losing as a citizen. Do you really want all the wrongs committed in 70 years to be bundle-packed and delivered in 10 years by the current government?
Wasn’t BJP elected to do things differently? BJP sure talked about chaal (ways of functioning), chehera (face) and charitra (character). They made the moral high ground a big plank in the election. BJP said their politics is of suchita and shudhta (good character and purity in public life) . Really? BJP party with difference is using sins of Congress to justify their even worst actions.
Well, retired CJI Ranjan Gogoi turned out to be just like any BJP politicians. Gogoi talked eloquently about high values and principles but did exactly opposite.
Is author expecting people to swallow worst actions of BJP in last six years? Get Real my dear friend.
Classic Whataboutery or in other words, Two Wrongs a Right Make.
Way to go Print
Hitesh please do not respond to criticism of unsavoury characters that have thrived under earlier dispensation. Infact the harsh criticism and vilification of Justice GOGOI by these unsavoury characters has confirmed the importance of the appointment of Justice GOGOI to Rajyasabha
This BJP VP has conveniently forgotten former CJI P Sathasivam who after absolving Amit Shah was appointed Gov of Kerala by Modi Govt Why was it not quid pro quo just like Gogoi accepting sealed envelopes to decide the cases.
Yane ki, ‘Naya India’ toh bilkul purana India jaisa nikla!!
Only maybe a little worse. You seem intent on proving that old saying, BJP = Congress + cow!
You could have mentioned what those credentials were, because the ones that stand out are Gogoi’s verdicts in his final flurry, which were ALL in favour of the government. Then there’s also the case of the sealed cover, a subterfuge on the people of India, helping the government win cases without any argument as such.
Sure, debate would be good, but we both know it will never happen under this government. Obviously you wouldn’t agree, but one hopes that Gogoi’s stated aim to get the government and courts closer will not happen, and that the judiciary remains independent and fearless!
If you dissent once, you can consent at all times in future? What a foolish article is this?
Foolish article. He was bound to becomes cji. Dissenting or not.
Yes, it would have been a huge risk to the Government not to make him CJI despite seniority and the rock-solid convention on this. it would have been against the Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court too.
Yane ki, ye ‘Naya India’ bilkul purana India jaisa he!!
If anything, a little worse!! You seem to be supporting that old saying, BJP = Congress + Cow!!
It would have helped if you mentioned what those credentials are, because the most obvious ones are Gogoi’s final judgements that ALL favoured the BJP government. There’s also the case of sealed covers that Gogoi used as subterfuge against the people of India, so that the government can win a case without any argument as such.
Sure a debate and some decisions would be good, but we both know that it’ll never happen under this government! Obviously you wouldn’t agree, but one hopes that Gogoi’s stated aim of bringing the judiciary and government closer to each other does not come to fruition, and the judiciary stays independant and fearless.
Hitesh, maybe you should read the following Op-Ed, to get some semblance of reasoning into your thought processes: https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/ranjan-gogoi-supreme-court-rajya-sabha-6320869/ Or, perhaps you just wanted to write a piece to get noticed?
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones on others. There is nothing the BJP is doing now, that the Congress didn’t do earlier. The media which was silent then, doesn’t have a moral right to outrage now. People are not fools.
Hello, this is not party A or party B. But about what is expected by citizens of India. Stop whataboutery.
I could see the pain in the Vice President’s eyes when he presided over the swearing in of Mr R Gogoi, MP. Then read Pratap Bhanu Mehta’s searing column in the Indian Express. The rhinos in Kaziranga National Park would die to have such a thick skin.
‘The rhinos in Kaziranga National Park would die to have such a thick skin.”
But Indian secularists have thick skin comparable to that of Triceratops, otherwise Harsh mander, Ram Puniyani, mani Shankar Aiyar, Siddhartha Bhatia etc. would have gone back to Pakistan to fight for secularism there. but these shameless people stay in India and have thick enough skin to lecture Hindus, forgetting conveniently that it is Hindus who took pity on them and took them in and they way they are paying back will shame even Ghori.
This vice president, I forget his name at this instant, looks like a rhino to me! No sensitive human being can have a jaw and a voice like his
Rebellion of Justice Ranjan gogoi was against CJI Deepak Misra, who was not exactly a protege of the present government. So, Gogoi’s rebellion was probably a plus point in the account of judges kept by BJP.