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To all the haters,
Even Bill Gates approved of the report so shut your filthy mouths or at least think before pretending to act like a critic….
These officers didn’t do anything unlawful at all, they simply shared a list of ACTUALLY PRACTICALLY APPLICABLE suggestions, which half of you didn’t even bother to read before giving your final judgment!
STOP having a herd mentality and blindly following idiots who claim that these officers “deserved” such horrible treatment!
OPEN YOUR EYES AND THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK!
The government is the one at fault here!! Such overreaction is intolerable!! These sincere officers do not deserve such unfair and harsh treatment for being vocal about their opinions… Wake Up, India!! THIS IS NOT DEMOCRACY!!
We are on 25 May 2020, still the GST Collection figures for April 2020 is not released. This has raised a huge concern or doubt on the quality of data published in the international community.
If April 2020 GST collection is to be published in June then when May 2020 data will be published ?
These Revenue officers are spineless. They authored a draft recommendation and their seniors authorized the draft. The report came out in public domain, so what. It appears that it was in fact the government that had authorized these revenue officers to draft their recommendations with an instruction not to make it public. Now that it was public, the government fearing a backlash from the rich elite class, decided to sacrifice these senior revenue officers as scape goats. The IRS officers association should realize that the government has gone for a kill and rather than getting petrified and alarmed they should stand up in protest. After all if they expect that they should be treated at par with the IAS, then should get rid of the fear factor and should behave in more mature way displaying moral courage and emotional strength. Such cry boy attitude who recoils in his closet unable to put up with any challenge or an emerging and evolving situation, is highly unbecoming of an elite service group. They have in them the ability, class, skill and calibre to steer their life and living and should not nurture a handicapped mentality at the mere thought of losing their jobs and service. They should come out brave and protest to redeem their honour rather than crying over spilled milk.
(Md. Israil )
Ability to study suggestions irrespective of the author or orientation is a mark of mature governance. Governments must accept suggestions with an open mind.
On the other hand bureaucrats must understand that the public looks to them for clean and circumspect administration. They have to behave.
Instead finding ways and means to unearth black money held by all categories of people perhaps other than poor and a good chunk of salaried class these officers thought it smart to augment revenue by coming out with some unpalatable suggestions at this time of crisis. There are umpteen ways to augment the resources . Gold reserves , benami transactions ,loot through banks and NBFCs if monetized or prevented further the resources needed to overcome the present crisis can be easily explored.
This government does not want to listen to anyone and are stubborn.Are we living in a democratic country?? I don’t think so.More scaring is the fact that the officers were honest.We need to condemn these actions of d govt and need to stand up.
Government officers absolutely can’t leak recommendations and/or delibrations to media or to public. Forming if opinion or representation is not the matter. Putting it in public domain is. This is not a way any serious government can function. Leaking internal files even before any decisions on it are made is tantamount to breaching the employee contract at the core. Good that a hard punishment was met and example set.
It is no surprise that this moodi and co dispensation will go to any length ,even murdering people like justice lavasa, journalist and writer like gauri. Lankesh ,former TN CM Jayalalitha ,etc and a host of others and do any anti people ,anti national act to sustain itself in power ! In addition to honest officers ,even the press and media are gagged and silenced !Seems like everyone has to sing the praise of moodi and co! Maybe even the Corona virus lockdowns are being done with ulterior and political motives . These guys will do anything for power !It is a dangerous situation!One can trust a wolf or a goat . But one can never trust a wolf in a goat’s skin ,which is what moodi and co is! It’s more than an Orwellian nightmare!
While all these civil services folks will give all sort of ideas like increasing taxes etc they will keep mum when it comes to reforms in civil services.most of our civil servants are generalist without any specialisation .what we need is economists in finance ministry,tax specialists in revenue department Then only this government system of decision making will get reformed or else the present sclerotic bureacracy will continue to the detriment of the people
If it was just suggestion then why did he leaked his own suggestion (out of 1000s suggestions) to the Media?Isn’t he stupid? So that govt earns a bad name……
IRS is recommending to hike the tax not govt. Both leaking the stupid suggestion and giving the stupid suggestions deserves this.
Reporter Madam, Another biased report
…May I know why only this suggestion came out from 1000s of suggestions? Suggested by the IRS but showing as if Govt has done this….Congressi Media ko Jalan hoti hai bahut ….
The three would not have been pulled up if the report had been sent to the government for consideration. The effect of the publication of this report from the official handle of the Officers Association, was such that it was believed as the governments view by a vast majority of people. So much so that an old warhorse like Sekhar Gupta had to do a ‘ cut the clutter’, on this topic as if it were true.
So the moaning of officers that it will’ have a chilling effect’ on free thought is popycock, and so much drivel. The officers can always give their views and suggestions to the government. The action against the three officers will make the matters clear and a lesson for others to emulate.
It appears the characters in the report believe that personal honesty equates with intelligence; good intentions with smart strategy. That never is the case. However blemishless the records (nothing great there as that IS what is expected of every one) of the three officers, they do not take away the fact that the three tried to do something stupid. Their main error of judgement was, they assumed that their being IRS officers also qualifies them as economists. Going by the report, they are no economists. At best, they are well-meaning gullible fools.
Its showing from your comment that how intelligent u are…. The person (IRS) is leaking his own suggestion to all of you and showing that govt. wants to implement…its clearly fishy and Maharaja has done right thing. Stupids not required at this time. Already so much panic and by leaking a suggestion he fueled it
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!? You do not have the right to say that to anyone no matter the situation! So please keep your bloody tongue and mind in check… Modi is not some “maharaj”, he is simply the Prime Minister of this country for the time being…
As for this whole debacle, it is an utmost overreaction on the government’s part. These officers are noble in their strive and did whatever they thought best in good faith. Their only mistake was to go public with the report, and the government taking disciplinary actions against them only shows the government’s true nature.
It is not an uncommon thing that ,before declaring a critical policy change ;the government leaks the proposed change through unofficial channels.
In this particular case , at this critical time ; when the situation is so much vulnerable , some basic maturity was expected from these officers .
All over the world , the governments are declaring unprecedented packages to help the people & industry ; and these guys at such high posts are collectively proposing tax raise ? Can we imagine the kind of signal we as a country are sending outside ? will any prudent investor, who would be thinking of bringing some manufacturing from china to India ; would step forward ? Are there any other country’s who are not eager to embrace them ? Wake up bureaucracy . Please come out of your ivory tower . Introspect ; please be sensitive, please be creative .
Raising a hammer to kill a fly. After all it was a recommendation. It was not a G.O or notification. Whether it was made public or not, how does it matter? Recommendation by a service association or group of individuals can be accepted or rejected outright. Modi govt should simply said, it did not subscribe to the recommendations. If you are not ready listen, then who will talk to you?? Best would have been to send officially and not make public. To remove them from their charge is too much. They can be issued warning letter to refrain from giving unsolicited advice.
Being a senior IRS officers they should have followed basic policy of their Job, that’s too during a pandemic critical time such a irresponsible reports without sending to higher officials can’t be published in media, which can create panic & confusion for public.
THESE OFFICERS intention is clearly to malign the Govt and create panic for the people in emergency time Just to please their some indirect bosses. More strict actions should be taken against them under pandemic emergency law if anything untoward incidents happen due this report.
All said and done, it is a recommendation, which the govt may or may not accept. It was not a notification or G.O which has to be complied with. When it was just report or suggestion where is trying to malign the govt?? This disproportionate action by Modi govt shows that it is vindictive, revengeful and stubborn. Of course, making it public could have been avoided. But ultimately, it was a recommendation
If it was just a suggestion then why did he leaked his own stupid suggestion? Intention is clear….
This govt. led by Mr.Modi has let loose a reign of terror and does not allow any one to speak openly and frankly.An autocratic govt.led by Mr.Modi always in a revenging mood and showing irresponsible attitude towards his officers and subordinates .A fascist govt. with notorious attitude.
Was the data revealed in the report covered under the Official Secrets Act?
If it could be placed in the public domain under the RTI Act – where is the risk or culpability of the IRS officers in exposing the data public otherwise..
It is no surprise to see such an “over-reaction” on part of the Modi Government which has always attempted to and mostly succeded in silencing any views and recommendations that do not align with its own interests and opinions.
Madam, it’s not over action. Dont look at this with one angle. Who gave the suggestion? Its IRS…. Who leaked it? IRS….Why only one suggestion came out out of 1000s? So that govt earns Bad name….. Don’t he need to learn some discipline at this post and in this hard time?
There is always a turf war between the IRS and IAS. However, by making the unauthorised recommendations public, these IRS officers gave the opportunity to IAS lobby to hit them badly. There was no reason to make it public even if there was a requirement to do such a study by IRS association. These three officers were honest, maybe? there is no record against them but honestly does not mean indisciplined. I am very sure this government will bring total bureaucracy including IAS, under control. Hay days are over.
This is common sense of being disciplined , if senior officers are not following discipline how about his juniors who wil be leading India in other countries after 10 years, what if they do same indiscipline activities in foreign countries spoiling our country image.
To all the haters,
Even Bill Gates approved of the report so shut your filthy mouths or at least think before pretending to act like a critic….
These officers didn’t do anything unlawful at all, they simply shared a list of ACTUALLY PRACTICALLY APPLICABLE suggestions, which half of you didn’t even bother to read before giving your final judgment!
STOP having a herd mentality and blindly following idiots who claim that these officers “deserved” such horrible treatment!
OPEN YOUR EYES AND THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK!
The government is the one at fault here!! Such overreaction is intolerable!! These sincere officers do not deserve such unfair and harsh treatment for being vocal about their opinions… Wake Up, India!! THIS IS NOT DEMOCRACY!!
We are on 25 May 2020, still the GST Collection figures for April 2020 is not released. This has raised a huge concern or doubt on the quality of data published in the international community.
If April 2020 GST collection is to be published in June then when May 2020 data will be published ?
These Revenue officers are spineless. They authored a draft recommendation and their seniors authorized the draft. The report came out in public domain, so what. It appears that it was in fact the government that had authorized these revenue officers to draft their recommendations with an instruction not to make it public. Now that it was public, the government fearing a backlash from the rich elite class, decided to sacrifice these senior revenue officers as scape goats. The IRS officers association should realize that the government has gone for a kill and rather than getting petrified and alarmed they should stand up in protest. After all if they expect that they should be treated at par with the IAS, then should get rid of the fear factor and should behave in more mature way displaying moral courage and emotional strength. Such cry boy attitude who recoils in his closet unable to put up with any challenge or an emerging and evolving situation, is highly unbecoming of an elite service group. They have in them the ability, class, skill and calibre to steer their life and living and should not nurture a handicapped mentality at the mere thought of losing their jobs and service. They should come out brave and protest to redeem their honour rather than crying over spilled milk.
(Md. Israil )
Ability to study suggestions irrespective of the author or orientation is a mark of mature governance. Governments must accept suggestions with an open mind.
On the other hand bureaucrats must understand that the public looks to them for clean and circumspect administration. They have to behave.
Yes…it should happen.
A govt which stops DA to poor pensioners can go to any extreme.Let there be early Loksbha election or referendum.
Serves the “Elite” right. Stupid punks voted for Modi and now paying for it. As you sow, so shall you reap.
Instead finding ways and means to unearth black money held by all categories of people perhaps other than poor and a good chunk of salaried class these officers thought it smart to augment revenue by coming out with some unpalatable suggestions at this time of crisis. There are umpteen ways to augment the resources . Gold reserves , benami transactions ,loot through banks and NBFCs if monetized or prevented further the resources needed to overcome the present crisis can be easily explored.
This government does not want to listen to anyone and are stubborn.Are we living in a democratic country?? I don’t think so.More scaring is the fact that the officers were honest.We need to condemn these actions of d govt and need to stand up.
Government officers absolutely can’t leak recommendations and/or delibrations to media or to public. Forming if opinion or representation is not the matter. Putting it in public domain is. This is not a way any serious government can function. Leaking internal files even before any decisions on it are made is tantamount to breaching the employee contract at the core. Good that a hard punishment was met and example set.
It is no surprise that this moodi and co dispensation will go to any length ,even murdering people like justice lavasa, journalist and writer like gauri. Lankesh ,former TN CM Jayalalitha ,etc and a host of others and do any anti people ,anti national act to sustain itself in power ! In addition to honest officers ,even the press and media are gagged and silenced !Seems like everyone has to sing the praise of moodi and co! Maybe even the Corona virus lockdowns are being done with ulterior and political motives . These guys will do anything for power !It is a dangerous situation!One can trust a wolf or a goat . But one can never trust a wolf in a goat’s skin ,which is what moodi and co is! It’s more than an Orwellian nightmare!
Is the views expressed are personal of the author?
Is the contents in the report are of The Print?
Why only some times it’s mentioned after the report the views are personal of the author & not always?
Probably one of the worst articles in recent past
While all these civil services folks will give all sort of ideas like increasing taxes etc they will keep mum when it comes to reforms in civil services.most of our civil servants are generalist without any specialisation .what we need is economists in finance ministry,tax specialists in revenue department Then only this government system of decision making will get reformed or else the present sclerotic bureacracy will continue to the detriment of the people
And CEO as per Manusmriti
If it was just suggestion then why did he leaked his own suggestion (out of 1000s suggestions) to the Media?Isn’t he stupid? So that govt earns a bad name……
IRS is recommending to hike the tax not govt. Both leaking the stupid suggestion and giving the stupid suggestions deserves this.
Reporter Madam, Another biased report
…May I know why only this suggestion came out from 1000s of suggestions? Suggested by the IRS but showing as if Govt has done this….Congressi Media ko Jalan hoti hai bahut ….
The three would not have been pulled up if the report had been sent to the government for consideration. The effect of the publication of this report from the official handle of the Officers Association, was such that it was believed as the governments view by a vast majority of people. So much so that an old warhorse like Sekhar Gupta had to do a ‘ cut the clutter’, on this topic as if it were true.
So the moaning of officers that it will’ have a chilling effect’ on free thought is popycock, and so much drivel. The officers can always give their views and suggestions to the government. The action against the three officers will make the matters clear and a lesson for others to emulate.
It appears the characters in the report believe that personal honesty equates with intelligence; good intentions with smart strategy. That never is the case. However blemishless the records (nothing great there as that IS what is expected of every one) of the three officers, they do not take away the fact that the three tried to do something stupid. Their main error of judgement was, they assumed that their being IRS officers also qualifies them as economists. Going by the report, they are no economists. At best, they are well-meaning gullible fools.
How dare you speak againest the all powerful MAHARAJA of the country. You will be beheaded
Its showing from your comment that how intelligent u are…. The person (IRS) is leaking his own suggestion to all of you and showing that govt. wants to implement…its clearly fishy and Maharaja has done right thing. Stupids not required at this time. Already so much panic and by leaking a suggestion he fueled it
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!? You do not have the right to say that to anyone no matter the situation! So please keep your bloody tongue and mind in check… Modi is not some “maharaj”, he is simply the Prime Minister of this country for the time being…
As for this whole debacle, it is an utmost overreaction on the government’s part. These officers are noble in their strive and did whatever they thought best in good faith. Their only mistake was to go public with the report, and the government taking disciplinary actions against them only shows the government’s true nature.
It is not an uncommon thing that ,before declaring a critical policy change ;the government leaks the proposed change through unofficial channels.
In this particular case , at this critical time ; when the situation is so much vulnerable , some basic maturity was expected from these officers .
All over the world , the governments are declaring unprecedented packages to help the people & industry ; and these guys at such high posts are collectively proposing tax raise ? Can we imagine the kind of signal we as a country are sending outside ? will any prudent investor, who would be thinking of bringing some manufacturing from china to India ; would step forward ? Are there any other country’s who are not eager to embrace them ? Wake up bureaucracy . Please come out of your ivory tower . Introspect ; please be sensitive, please be creative .
Raising a hammer to kill a fly. After all it was a recommendation. It was not a G.O or notification. Whether it was made public or not, how does it matter? Recommendation by a service association or group of individuals can be accepted or rejected outright. Modi govt should simply said, it did not subscribe to the recommendations. If you are not ready listen, then who will talk to you?? Best would have been to send officially and not make public. To remove them from their charge is too much. They can be issued warning letter to refrain from giving unsolicited advice.
Being a senior IRS officers they should have followed basic policy of their Job, that’s too during a pandemic critical time such a irresponsible reports without sending to higher officials can’t be published in media, which can create panic & confusion for public.
THESE OFFICERS intention is clearly to malign the Govt and create panic for the people in emergency time Just to please their some indirect bosses. More strict actions should be taken against them under pandemic emergency law if anything untoward incidents happen due this report.
All said and done, it is a recommendation, which the govt may or may not accept. It was not a notification or G.O which has to be complied with. When it was just report or suggestion where is trying to malign the govt?? This disproportionate action by Modi govt shows that it is vindictive, revengeful and stubborn. Of course, making it public could have been avoided. But ultimately, it was a recommendation
If it was just a suggestion then why did he leaked his own stupid suggestion? Intention is clear….
This govt. led by Mr.Modi has let loose a reign of terror and does not allow any one to speak openly and frankly.An autocratic govt.led by Mr.Modi always in a revenging mood and showing irresponsible attitude towards his officers and subordinates .A fascist govt. with notorious attitude.
Was the data revealed in the report covered under the Official Secrets Act?
If it could be placed in the public domain under the RTI Act – where is the risk or culpability of the IRS officers in exposing the data public otherwise..
Ideas always have an uncanny habit of coming back. Times change. Ideas which looks invincible now collapses after a time.
It is no surprise to see such an “over-reaction” on part of the Modi Government which has always attempted to and mostly succeded in silencing any views and recommendations that do not align with its own interests and opinions.
Madam, it’s not over action. Dont look at this with one angle. Who gave the suggestion? Its IRS…. Who leaked it? IRS….Why only one suggestion came out out of 1000s? So that govt earns Bad name….. Don’t he need to learn some discipline at this post and in this hard time?
There is always a turf war between the IRS and IAS. However, by making the unauthorised recommendations public, these IRS officers gave the opportunity to IAS lobby to hit them badly. There was no reason to make it public even if there was a requirement to do such a study by IRS association. These three officers were honest, maybe? there is no record against them but honestly does not mean indisciplined. I am very sure this government will bring total bureaucracy including IAS, under control. Hay days are over.
This is dictatorship rule in India.
This is common sense of being disciplined , if senior officers are not following discipline how about his juniors who wil be leading India in other countries after 10 years, what if they do same indiscipline activities in foreign countries spoiling our country image.