The concept of Ram Rajya itself is not without contestation. From M.K. Gandhi to B.R. Ambedkar to Modi, Ram Rajya offers a varied understanding of Indian civilisation.
The graduation is meant to bolster the legacy and legitimacy of Sheikh Hasina's Awami League, even as the real-world preparedness lagged behind the glossy narrative.
Indonesia delegation led by Defence Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin visited BrahMos facility & met with top officials & undertook a detailed briefing on the missile system.
It is a brilliant, reasonably priced, and mostly homemade aircraft with a stellar safety record; only two crashes in 24 years since its first flight. But its crash is a moment of introspection.
How many times Hedgewar, Golwalkar, Vajpayee, Advani went to jail during independence movement? The one who went wrote 13 mercy petition in 14 years and finally said good bye to politics under the terms of release from the British jail.
You forgot Damodar Savarkar, the founder of the ideology of hate called Hindutva. From his cell in Cellular Jail in the Andamans, he wrote mercy petition after mercy petition pleading with the British to be let out early. In return, this coward promised that he would not oppose the British colonial masters and would work to uphold their power in India. And then we all know that Savarkar was one of the conspirators who was arrested and was the mastermind in the plot to kill the Father of the nation.
And it is the coward, killer and collaborator wih the colonialists that the BJP worships and whose statue is now in the Parliament.
Can you plz write an article about Ambedkar’s thoughts about ISLAM.??
Superb ! You hit him where it’s most uncomfortable – you know where. Well done
You cheap ahr writing nonsense and half baked things doesn’t make you any better writer. No doubt you casteist fools support nonsense politicians like lalu
Your name suggest that why you are all against, Yadavs who themselves belives ancestors of lord Krishna are biggest hypocrites who only thinks about there own community, they defend all corruption and atrocities on Dalits from Yadavs and wants to grab power even there most intelligent people like that and coming generation is also hopeless, look at Jyoti Yadav
What Ram rajya. A rajya which banishes wives,a rajya in which a shudra sambhuka is killed by the ” Maryada Purusha”on the advice of his guru ,a rajya which reinforces chaturvarna and brahmanical supremacy , a rajya where one can kill cunningly any one hiding behind a tree , a rajya where battles are won by divide and rule through allurements as happened in the case of drohi vibhushana who was promised the kingdom for betraying his own brother. We are truly witnessing it. With almost all these ” great values” are being put to practice. And today’s event heralds a return to medieval hierarchical dwija Raj ruling with an iron hand . Majoritarian militarism.
Dwija rule? So how will want a low iq rule of people like you. And for your ranting shambuka etc, these are recent addition, so should be considered only after understanding the bkgd. And for your baba, he was brit puppet, how many times went to jail during brit rule.
How many times Hedgewar, Golwalkar, Vajpayee, Advani went to jail during independence movement? The one who went wrote 13 mercy petition in 14 years and finally said good bye to politics under the terms of release from the British jail.
Well said. You missed the murder of Bali, who had no enemity with Ram.
Waste people crying because they have lost the people … Go and apply some burol … People are with Ram … Jai Sree Ram !
It was unfortunate that Ambedkar only read one version of Ramayan and that too without any critical analysis of it. But, after cross-analysis of 200 versions of Ramayana received from Pakistan to Phillipines, the story of Shambhuka has been accepted by most scholars including western Indologists and many Hindu organizations to be a later fabrication to the original story of Rama. Even in the version Ambedkar criticized itself said it was only applicable for Treta Yuga and in this age of Kali, which started from 3100 BCE as per Hindu theology, everybody is born as Shudra and everybody can perform any form of austerities.
The same Ramayana describes how an untouchable and a son of a prostitute became the topmost priest in Rama’s court and one of the most revered Brahmin in his lifetime. He became Satyakam Jabala, who even wrote a Upanishad later. Rama never discriminated based on his birth and caste. The same Ramayana described how Rama accepted food from an untouchable old lady called Shabari who was a disciple of Chandala sage Matanga. The same Rama became an eternal friend of Shudra Guhaka. The same Ramayana narrates how both Lord Rama and a adivasi/moolnivasi Nishada king (called scheduled Tribe now) went to the same gurukul to gain knowledge and later stayed at Nishada house during his forest life.
But, today’s radical Hinduphobic Ambedkarites will not hightlight any of these due to their hatred towards anything related to Hindus. If they really want social justice, then they should highlight these facts rather than mining some sporadic unauthentic incidences with microscope from the vast body of Sanskritic literature.
Congress party can , now, take up the cause of Shri Krishan Janam Bhoomi and Shri Kashi Vishwanath Temple to upstage BJP. The vast majority of Hindus want liberation of these two prominent place of worship also. Fake or pseudo- secularism is dead a long time ago . For Congress Party it may not be difficult to find some political space. IT may be difficult for some journalists to change their views so suddenly who are sleeping in long bygone Nehruvian era. But many of them will toe the party line as a famous General of India has termed them— PRESSITUTES . They can be paid something NOW , with the promise to enrich them in future . Mostly it is what comes in to pockets becomes ideology . Pro -Hindu narrative is not going to exit too soon from political mind space. Act now .
Its unfortunate that Ambedkar only read one version of Valmiki Ramayan that was the most popular at that time. But, after critical analysis of 200 versions of Ramayana obtained from Pakistan to Indonesia, almost all scholars including leftist western Indologists and most Hindu organizations found that the story of Shambuka badh and Sita Visarjan was a later interpolation in Uttarakhanda and thus considered as not authentic. Even the version that Ambedkar read that described Sambhuka badh told itself in the same text that it was the rule only for Treta Yuga, which ended thousands of years ago. In current era of Kali starting from 3100 BCE onward, every body is born as Shudra and anybody can perform any kinds of austerities without any distinction of castes. I urge these Hindu-phobic Ambedkarite extremists to study Ramayana first thoroughly before even writing those non-sense on Lord Rama.
Replace Muhammed with SriRam… and you would have a bullet on to your head… and thats the difference between Hindus and Others. … let us reclaim our identity,.. Jai Shri Ram
Mullah Mandal is at it yet again. Having thrown mud at everything and failed, he has now resorted to discredit the Mahatma. Dr Ambedkar and the Mahatma are two of the most important modern day stalwarts in social justice and equity, but Mullah Mandal cannot get used to this. Like a trueblue Mullah, he is trying to disunite the Hindu community and create caste differences. History has rightly said, “Why Blame Ghori when you have a Jaichand amongst you” – I pray to the author to change his name from Dilip Mandal to Mullah Muhammad Mandal.
I agree with Ambedkar. Hindus were presented with a upper caste sanitised Rama in the Ramayana serial. The Shambuga incident cited by Ambedkar was of course not shown.
But Ramayana and all Hindu texts are about the excellence of the Brahmin and the need for the sudras to know their place is to be servers to the other three castes.
The caste system is unique to India, that is the reason India cannot become developed ever. Other nations run on the concept of liberty, equality and fraternity. The Hindu mind seeks suppression, inequality and fraternity only withing castes.
‘SUPPORTERS of divide Hindus and rule INDIA are really the ” ravaan ” of TODAY. ‘
The dividers and rulers are Brahmins. For India to become developed, Brahmanism needs to be eradicated.
Mr Shailesh: Whilst in the past “Jai Shri Ram” was a chant with solely a religious meaning attached to it, it no longer is that today. Sadly, it has been turned into a death chant wileded by gaurakshak and other Hindutva intoxicated, lumpen goons lynching hapless Muslims.
The BJP has usurped that religious chant and turned it into a war cry to harangue, humiliate and hit innocent Muslims in India. And that deadly ideology is supported by bigots like you who regard as a “solution”. Hopefully, the chant will not become the equivalent of Hitler’s Final Solution, despite the efforts of closet Hindutva Nazis like you to turn it into one.
Stop leveling everybody as Nazi and fascist when you know only to shout but not to argue. Misusing ‘Jay Shree Rama’ by a few criminals does not make it a war cry. If I buy your logic, then chanting of ‘Allahu Akbar’ to murder millions in last decade should be war slogans which is announced every day five times through Azaan in every part of India and around the world. Also, what was the logic for Phalghar murder of innocent Hindu sadhus fueled by Christian missionaries propaganda? So lets not trivialize everything. There are miscreants in every religion, every communities including liberals. But, using that to denigrate a whole religion or ideology is nothing short of fascism itself.
Regarding this Hinduphobic article on Rama, this is completely misinterpretation of Ramayana. It is mostly based on an unauthentic later interpolation of original Ramayana called uttarkhanda, most of which are considered recent addition and thus not attributed to Ram at all.
Sap Das: I have to disagree with you and regard your defence for Mr Shailesh above as singularly puerile.
You have clearly not grasped the first sentence in my post:
“.. in the past “Jai Shri Ram” was a chant with solely a religious meaning attached to it, it no longer is that today ..”
It cannot be refuted that the lumpen underbelly of the BJP has usurped and turned that religious chant into a feared war cry – at least for poor Muslims in the BJP ruled backwaters of North India.
And something similar and unfortunate has happened with Islam too. Some of the North African Muslims from Algeria and Morocco who report to me in my office here in Europe have identical things to say about the Islamic chant “Allahu Akbar”. Several of them have told me that should I hear the chant “Allahu Akbar” in the streets, I would need to duck and get the hell out of wherever I happened to be. Ordinary, law-abiding Muslims also were confronted with the fact that “Allahu Akbar” was a warcry of sorts that terrorists would scream before doing something violent and ungodly. Islamists had hijacked that simple cry praising their God, just as your gaurakshak friends had hijacked “Jai Sri Ram”.
And as regards your claim that Christian missionaries had killed innocent Hindu sadhus in Phalgar, well, that claim can only be called preposterous. But then, I cannot prevent you from inhaling the hot air that Arnab Goswami and his right wing brethren produce in copious amounts.
Bottomline: Just as Islam has been hijacked by Islamists to spread terror, Hinduism too is being hijacked by the Hindutva of the BJP, the RSS, VHP and other fascist and semi fascist outfits.
That a ragtag bunch of violent. semi-literate saffron thugs can convince you and your ilk that Hindutva is the same as Hinduism reminds me of the quote from the Italian political philosopher Niccolo Machiavelli:
“One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived”
LOL…what a solution!….no wonder india is suffering….because of lunatics like you.
The solution can never be a mythological god or any god. The solution is to treat all human beings how you would want to be treated. Not to destroy one gods temple to build another gods temple. India will never survive this hatred of others. Millions are leaving the country due to such hatred! Love one another or be destroyed by hatred!
An outstanding comment Mr Stephen Billings !
Interestingly, even Hindus are leaving India in droves. At least those who realise that building temples does not put food on the table. Nonetheless, Modi’s gimmicks seem to fool a large chunk of the population. It remains to be seen how long they will remain fooled and what more tomfoolery Indians will tolerate.
A revival of militarist, deceitful, oppressive medieval dwija rule.
How many times Hedgewar, Golwalkar, Vajpayee, Advani went to jail during independence movement? The one who went wrote 13 mercy petition in 14 years and finally said good bye to politics under the terms of release from the British jail.
Mr Deb: I agree with your hard-hitting comment.
You forgot Damodar Savarkar, the founder of the ideology of hate called Hindutva. From his cell in Cellular Jail in the Andamans, he wrote mercy petition after mercy petition pleading with the British to be let out early. In return, this coward promised that he would not oppose the British colonial masters and would work to uphold their power in India. And then we all know that Savarkar was one of the conspirators who was arrested and was the mastermind in the plot to kill the Father of the nation.
And it is the coward, killer and collaborator wih the colonialists that the BJP worships and whose statue is now in the Parliament.
Can you plz write an article about Ambedkar’s thoughts about ISLAM.??
OR is it a taboo?
Superb ! You hit him where it’s most uncomfortable – you know where. Well done
You cheap ahr writing nonsense and half baked things doesn’t make you any better writer. No doubt you casteist fools support nonsense politicians like lalu
You write about 25 words to say nothing about the topic in hand. You’re just happy abusing the author. Typical uncouth Sanghi.
good article , logical . However, in India people with common sense are deemed to be enemies of state.
Your name suggest that why you are all against, Yadavs who themselves belives ancestors of lord Krishna are biggest hypocrites who only thinks about there own community, they defend all corruption and atrocities on Dalits from Yadavs and wants to grab power even there most intelligent people like that and coming generation is also hopeless, look at Jyoti Yadav
What Ram rajya. A rajya which banishes wives,a rajya in which a shudra sambhuka is killed by the ” Maryada Purusha”on the advice of his guru ,a rajya which reinforces chaturvarna and brahmanical supremacy , a rajya where one can kill cunningly any one hiding behind a tree , a rajya where battles are won by divide and rule through allurements as happened in the case of drohi vibhushana who was promised the kingdom for betraying his own brother. We are truly witnessing it. With almost all these ” great values” are being put to practice. And today’s event heralds a return to medieval hierarchical dwija Raj ruling with an iron hand . Majoritarian militarism.
Dwija rule? So how will want a low iq rule of people like you. And for your ranting shambuka etc, these are recent addition, so should be considered only after understanding the bkgd. And for your baba, he was brit puppet, how many times went to jail during brit rule.
How many times Hedgewar, Golwalkar, Vajpayee, Advani went to jail during independence movement? The one who went wrote 13 mercy petition in 14 years and finally said good bye to politics under the terms of release from the British jail.
Well said. You missed the murder of Bali, who had no enemity with Ram.
Waste people crying because they have lost the people … Go and apply some burol … People are with Ram … Jai Sree Ram !
It was unfortunate that Ambedkar only read one version of Ramayan and that too without any critical analysis of it. But, after cross-analysis of 200 versions of Ramayana received from Pakistan to Phillipines, the story of Shambhuka has been accepted by most scholars including western Indologists and many Hindu organizations to be a later fabrication to the original story of Rama. Even in the version Ambedkar criticized itself said it was only applicable for Treta Yuga and in this age of Kali, which started from 3100 BCE as per Hindu theology, everybody is born as Shudra and everybody can perform any form of austerities.
The same Ramayana describes how an untouchable and a son of a prostitute became the topmost priest in Rama’s court and one of the most revered Brahmin in his lifetime. He became Satyakam Jabala, who even wrote a Upanishad later. Rama never discriminated based on his birth and caste. The same Ramayana described how Rama accepted food from an untouchable old lady called Shabari who was a disciple of Chandala sage Matanga. The same Rama became an eternal friend of Shudra Guhaka. The same Ramayana narrates how both Lord Rama and a adivasi/moolnivasi Nishada king (called scheduled Tribe now) went to the same gurukul to gain knowledge and later stayed at Nishada house during his forest life.
But, today’s radical Hinduphobic Ambedkarites will not hightlight any of these due to their hatred towards anything related to Hindus. If they really want social justice, then they should highlight these facts rather than mining some sporadic unauthentic incidences with microscope from the vast body of Sanskritic literature.
Congress party can , now, take up the cause of Shri Krishan Janam Bhoomi and Shri Kashi Vishwanath Temple to upstage BJP. The vast majority of Hindus want liberation of these two prominent place of worship also. Fake or pseudo- secularism is dead a long time ago . For Congress Party it may not be difficult to find some political space. IT may be difficult for some journalists to change their views so suddenly who are sleeping in long bygone Nehruvian era. But many of them will toe the party line as a famous General of India has termed them— PRESSITUTES . They can be paid something NOW , with the promise to enrich them in future . Mostly it is what comes in to pockets becomes ideology . Pro -Hindu narrative is not going to exit too soon from political mind space. Act now .
Its unfortunate that Ambedkar only read one version of Valmiki Ramayan that was the most popular at that time. But, after critical analysis of 200 versions of Ramayana obtained from Pakistan to Indonesia, almost all scholars including leftist western Indologists and most Hindu organizations found that the story of Shambuka badh and Sita Visarjan was a later interpolation in Uttarakhanda and thus considered as not authentic. Even the version that Ambedkar read that described Sambhuka badh told itself in the same text that it was the rule only for Treta Yuga, which ended thousands of years ago. In current era of Kali starting from 3100 BCE onward, every body is born as Shudra and anybody can perform any kinds of austerities without any distinction of castes. I urge these Hindu-phobic Ambedkarite extremists to study Ramayana first thoroughly before even writing those non-sense on Lord Rama.
Reply to Ideas and not talk about individuals. Raavan was also a Hindu and a brahmin, if you are not aware.
Replace Muhammed with SriRam… and you would have a bullet on to your head… and thats the difference between Hindus and Others. … let us reclaim our identity,.. Jai Shri Ram
Mullah Mandal is at it yet again. Having thrown mud at everything and failed, he has now resorted to discredit the Mahatma. Dr Ambedkar and the Mahatma are two of the most important modern day stalwarts in social justice and equity, but Mullah Mandal cannot get used to this. Like a trueblue Mullah, he is trying to disunite the Hindu community and create caste differences. History has rightly said, “Why Blame Ghori when you have a Jaichand amongst you” – I pray to the author to change his name from Dilip Mandal to Mullah Muhammad Mandal.
I agree with Ambedkar. Hindus were presented with a upper caste sanitised Rama in the Ramayana serial. The Shambuga incident cited by Ambedkar was of course not shown.
But Ramayana and all Hindu texts are about the excellence of the Brahmin and the need for the sudras to know their place is to be servers to the other three castes.
The caste system is unique to India, that is the reason India cannot become developed ever. Other nations run on the concept of liberty, equality and fraternity. The Hindu mind seeks suppression, inequality and fraternity only withing castes.
Bongali Mullah get off social media too because it’s made by savarnas.
SUPPORTERS of divide Hindus and rule INDIA are really the ” ravaan ” of TODAY. Whose megalomaniac minds are torturing them. Solution is JAI SHRI RAM.
‘SUPPORTERS of divide Hindus and rule INDIA are really the ” ravaan ” of TODAY. ‘
The dividers and rulers are Brahmins. For India to become developed, Brahmanism needs to be eradicated.
Mr Shailesh: Whilst in the past “Jai Shri Ram” was a chant with solely a religious meaning attached to it, it no longer is that today. Sadly, it has been turned into a death chant wileded by gaurakshak and other Hindutva intoxicated, lumpen goons lynching hapless Muslims.
The BJP has usurped that religious chant and turned it into a war cry to harangue, humiliate and hit innocent Muslims in India. And that deadly ideology is supported by bigots like you who regard as a “solution”. Hopefully, the chant will not become the equivalent of Hitler’s Final Solution, despite the efforts of closet Hindutva Nazis like you to turn it into one.
Stop leveling everybody as Nazi and fascist when you know only to shout but not to argue. Misusing ‘Jay Shree Rama’ by a few criminals does not make it a war cry. If I buy your logic, then chanting of ‘Allahu Akbar’ to murder millions in last decade should be war slogans which is announced every day five times through Azaan in every part of India and around the world. Also, what was the logic for Phalghar murder of innocent Hindu sadhus fueled by Christian missionaries propaganda? So lets not trivialize everything. There are miscreants in every religion, every communities including liberals. But, using that to denigrate a whole religion or ideology is nothing short of fascism itself.
Regarding this Hinduphobic article on Rama, this is completely misinterpretation of Ramayana. It is mostly based on an unauthentic later interpolation of original Ramayana called uttarkhanda, most of which are considered recent addition and thus not attributed to Ram at all.
Sap Das: I have to disagree with you and regard your defence for Mr Shailesh above as singularly puerile.
You have clearly not grasped the first sentence in my post:
“.. in the past “Jai Shri Ram” was a chant with solely a religious meaning attached to it, it no longer is that today ..”
It cannot be refuted that the lumpen underbelly of the BJP has usurped and turned that religious chant into a feared war cry – at least for poor Muslims in the BJP ruled backwaters of North India.
And something similar and unfortunate has happened with Islam too. Some of the North African Muslims from Algeria and Morocco who report to me in my office here in Europe have identical things to say about the Islamic chant “Allahu Akbar”. Several of them have told me that should I hear the chant “Allahu Akbar” in the streets, I would need to duck and get the hell out of wherever I happened to be. Ordinary, law-abiding Muslims also were confronted with the fact that “Allahu Akbar” was a warcry of sorts that terrorists would scream before doing something violent and ungodly. Islamists had hijacked that simple cry praising their God, just as your gaurakshak friends had hijacked “Jai Sri Ram”.
And as regards your claim that Christian missionaries had killed innocent Hindu sadhus in Phalgar, well, that claim can only be called preposterous. But then, I cannot prevent you from inhaling the hot air that Arnab Goswami and his right wing brethren produce in copious amounts.
Bottomline: Just as Islam has been hijacked by Islamists to spread terror, Hinduism too is being hijacked by the Hindutva of the BJP, the RSS, VHP and other fascist and semi fascist outfits.
That a ragtag bunch of violent. semi-literate saffron thugs can convince you and your ilk that Hindutva is the same as Hinduism reminds me of the quote from the Italian political philosopher Niccolo Machiavelli:
“One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived”
LOL…what a solution!….no wonder india is suffering….because of lunatics like you.
The solution can never be a mythological god or any god. The solution is to treat all human beings how you would want to be treated. Not to destroy one gods temple to build another gods temple. India will never survive this hatred of others. Millions are leaving the country due to such hatred! Love one another or be destroyed by hatred!
An outstanding comment Mr Stephen Billings !
Interestingly, even Hindus are leaving India in droves. At least those who realise that building temples does not put food on the table. Nonetheless, Modi’s gimmicks seem to fool a large chunk of the population. It remains to be seen how long they will remain fooled and what more tomfoolery Indians will tolerate.
A revival of militarist, deceitful, oppressive medieval dwija rule.