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From Munir’s point of view, a few bumps here and there is par for the course. He isn’t going to drive his dumper truck to its doom. He wants to use it as a weapon.
A one time delimitation is CRITICAL to Good Governance. Set up FINAL D’Commission with the TOR to ALIGN Districts to Lok Sabha Constituency : ALIGN the Tehsil/ Taluka to Vidhan Sabha constituency. That will ensure -Total coordination between elected and selected : And accountability for policy outcomes.
“I would also seek more devolution of power from the Central and concurrent lists.”
Well you can keep asking and you know there would not be any change in that. Instead, everything is furiously being centralised. In fact it is you who got it wrong – it is because it appears that the federalism is being weakened systematically that the Southern states are fearing delimitation.When for every small fund one has to look up to the centre, why would a state not fear losing its number in the LS? Make the federal structure strong and power and finances well devolved, the cry against delimitation will subside on its own.
Or explore freezing the number of states at the current level and give one vote for each state assembly for vote on any major decisions?
I have arrived here after first reading Ms. Lekhi’s opinion piece on her urge for our geopolitical boat to land at Greenland.
Joseph Goebbels once observed that the big joke on democracy is that it gives its mortal enemies the tools to its own destruction.
I don’t know why the likes of Ms. Lekhi and Mr. Jagannathan even bother attempting these faux-intellectual discources. They keep throwing at us their cheap, CPC style think tank-ish drivel.
Surely, after a decade of their being in power, they would know that we know that ordinary citizens don’t matter in their scheme of things.
This ideologically hypocrisy-ridden group, now in power, has no commitment for democracy, and people’s representation, welfare, human rights, and sundry matters. They have no belief in our spiritual values. They pretend to be us though their real attitude towards us is that of the foreign invaders whom they constantly caricature.
They won’t understand that those against the delimitation exercise by them are not against the people of Bihar or UP.
It is just that we do not want to meet the same fate as our brethren in the north.
Hopefully, later, we will be able to extricate our brethren from the clutches of these inhuman, rapacious, identity-snatching invaders who have grabbed absolute power over them.
My view is, when delimitation exercise is done frequently at legislative constituency level, the same should be done for parliament constituency too. It was the DMK which did so, many times at legislative constituency level. The delimitation must be carried out after at every census for equal devolution of power. The last three paragraphs of Jagan’s article is much appreciable.
Not to mention, when a Dy.CM make a public statement as ‘Get out Mo…..’ Jagan’s polite mark as Stalin saar, is far ok.
Devolution of power?? NEP, GST, one nation one everything isn’t devolution of power, US example is a perfect one.. US doesn’t have a GST, another example of states managing their resources based on the context of state . Its not dictated by Washington… The point about states not devolving power to local bodies is a very valid criticism, needs to address, but equally valid is the consolidation of power by the union.. infact, the last straw was GST, now the states ability is quite narrow – like stamp duty, corporation taxes etc.. even borrowings are restricted to FRBM..
Population control, even if we concede the northern states like UP has done well, it’s still not dramatically different, to the south, so he is making a case of more devolution, – the numbers will skew as the rajya Sabha cannot do anything if it’s a money bill or of the joint session is called where the losing states will have to watch as bills are passed by majority states.
Firstly improving quality of law makers we are electing need to improve. For that we need to have stringent eligibility criteria and common test for those who aspire to be law makers.
The parliament with 543 members also looks like a fish market, God knows what kind of issues will get addressed in a parliament with 800-850 and most of then useless, criminal law makers?
Today Parliament does not discuss wage, jobs, employability, food, clothing, shelter, education and health but discuss Aurangzeb, Godse, Shiv linga beneath a Mosque and atrocities on Hindus in Bangladesh.
My suggestion is make eligibility criteria strigent, introduce common test for aspirants, limit loksabha seats to 543 or at the most increase to 600 but in current proportion of states, increase number of states and UTs to 50 and apply delimitation basis population at State level. Also increase the number of Rajya Sabha Seats from 260 to 400 in same proportion to existing seats from each state.
What an invalid (actually idiotic) argument!! Comparing the US and India?! Does Jagan know about the senate there? Does he not know about the grossly differential rates of population growth across different states in India? Does he really think (if he can think at all!!) that the BIMARU states which heaped poverty on the country should be rewarded? And the southern states punished for doing well?!
The Print should think twice before publishing idiotic views such as these!
Jagan is very happy to redistribute seats based on population, is he ready to redistribute land to states based on population density? Why should few states suffer due to high population density?
A one time delimitation is CRITICAL to Good Governance. Set up FINAL D’Commission with the TOR to ALIGN Districts to Lok Sabha Constituency : ALIGN the Tehsil/ Taluka to Vidhan Sabha constituency. That will ensure -Total coordination between elected and selected : And accountability for policy outcomes.
“I would also seek more devolution of power from the Central and concurrent lists.”
Well you can keep asking and you know there would not be any change in that. Instead, everything is furiously being centralised. In fact it is you who got it wrong – it is because it appears that the federalism is being weakened systematically that the Southern states are fearing delimitation.When for every small fund one has to look up to the centre, why would a state not fear losing its number in the LS? Make the federal structure strong and power and finances well devolved, the cry against delimitation will subside on its own.
Or explore freezing the number of states at the current level and give one vote for each state assembly for vote on any major decisions?
Jaggi is editor of right wing magazine, “Swarajya”.
Best is to break up big Northern states into smaller ones. Start with UP, Rajasthan, Bihar and MP.
I have arrived here after first reading Ms. Lekhi’s opinion piece on her urge for our geopolitical boat to land at Greenland.
Joseph Goebbels once observed that the big joke on democracy is that it gives its mortal enemies the tools to its own destruction.
I don’t know why the likes of Ms. Lekhi and Mr. Jagannathan even bother attempting these faux-intellectual discources. They keep throwing at us their cheap, CPC style think tank-ish drivel.
Surely, after a decade of their being in power, they would know that we know that ordinary citizens don’t matter in their scheme of things.
This ideologically hypocrisy-ridden group, now in power, has no commitment for democracy, and people’s representation, welfare, human rights, and sundry matters. They have no belief in our spiritual values. They pretend to be us though their real attitude towards us is that of the foreign invaders whom they constantly caricature.
They won’t understand that those against the delimitation exercise by them are not against the people of Bihar or UP.
It is just that we do not want to meet the same fate as our brethren in the north.
Hopefully, later, we will be able to extricate our brethren from the clutches of these inhuman, rapacious, identity-snatching invaders who have grabbed absolute power over them.
My view is, when delimitation exercise is done frequently at legislative constituency level, the same should be done for parliament constituency too. It was the DMK which did so, many times at legislative constituency level. The delimitation must be carried out after at every census for equal devolution of power. The last three paragraphs of Jagan’s article is much appreciable.
Not to mention, when a Dy.CM make a public statement as ‘Get out Mo…..’ Jagan’s polite mark as Stalin saar, is far ok.
Devolution of power?? NEP, GST, one nation one everything isn’t devolution of power, US example is a perfect one.. US doesn’t have a GST, another example of states managing their resources based on the context of state . Its not dictated by Washington… The point about states not devolving power to local bodies is a very valid criticism, needs to address, but equally valid is the consolidation of power by the union.. infact, the last straw was GST, now the states ability is quite narrow – like stamp duty, corporation taxes etc.. even borrowings are restricted to FRBM..
Population control, even if we concede the northern states like UP has done well, it’s still not dramatically different, to the south, so he is making a case of more devolution, – the numbers will skew as the rajya Sabha cannot do anything if it’s a money bill or of the joint session is called where the losing states will have to watch as bills are passed by majority states.
Firstly improving quality of law makers we are electing need to improve. For that we need to have stringent eligibility criteria and common test for those who aspire to be law makers.
The parliament with 543 members also looks like a fish market, God knows what kind of issues will get addressed in a parliament with 800-850 and most of then useless, criminal law makers?
Today Parliament does not discuss wage, jobs, employability, food, clothing, shelter, education and health but discuss Aurangzeb, Godse, Shiv linga beneath a Mosque and atrocities on Hindus in Bangladesh.
My suggestion is make eligibility criteria strigent, introduce common test for aspirants, limit loksabha seats to 543 or at the most increase to 600 but in current proportion of states, increase number of states and UTs to 50 and apply delimitation basis population at State level. Also increase the number of Rajya Sabha Seats from 260 to 400 in same proportion to existing seats from each state.
What an invalid (actually idiotic) argument!! Comparing the US and India?! Does Jagan know about the senate there? Does he not know about the grossly differential rates of population growth across different states in India? Does he really think (if he can think at all!!) that the BIMARU states which heaped poverty on the country should be rewarded? And the southern states punished for doing well?!
The Print should think twice before publishing idiotic views such as these!
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Jagan is very happy to redistribute seats based on population, is he ready to redistribute land to states based on population density? Why should few states suffer due to high population density?
“Stalin saar” ???
Didn’t expect such racist slang to be used in an official news portal.