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Shri Gupta Ji, you have been in public life of Journalism in India for quite long! Almost a life time! May you live long!
Sir you ought to be able to appreciate that the problem of Kashmir can never be resolved by anything done between the militaries of India and Pakistan , nor anything done or not done by Indian security forces vis a vis the people of Kashmir.
Concerned people like you must focus that any breach, be it the slightest, of the instrument of accession signed between India and maharajah Harisingh is simply unacceptable and sanotateges every chance of peace.
The arrogance of Indian polity and false nationalism has already trampled enough of that Instrument and the hawks in polity and media are craving for more blood to aboragate article 371 35 and so on. That will be suicidal!
No state can ever suppress completely the cause of any people for freedom and liberty and a nationalist identity.
Kashmir people seek such an identity and as honourable people wenindians ought not object.
We can seek peace with them to be within the constitution of India and have self rule of the kind assured in the instrument of accession, or more like anything under the sun but within Indian constitution as affirmed by a man as great as shri Vajpayee.
You are of course aware of the super confidence of the newbies that draw their strength from ignorance of history and politics but only based on crony capitalist propaganda tricks and feats mastered from shri Joseph Goebbels.
India must workout with open mind a Political solution within the constitution.
All political forces of India must shed their differences on this narrow subject of Kashmir and arrive at a consensus to settle the issue and Perdue that line of consensus with Kashmir people in a manner acceptable to them.
The PoK must be left to Pakistan and the people of pok to sort out!
India must work out complete peace with Pakistan leaving the pok.
We must all realise that between the two nuclear armed nations, there is simply no chance for either to annex the other and takeover the part of Kashmir with the other.
And same applies to india China boundary question.
Let us not be shy to acknowledge that the boundaries between India and china were never negotiated, never mutually determined or agreed.
Once we and Chinese agree on this simple truth, it is a very simple matter for both to arrive at an acceptable boundary settlement taking each other’ real concerns based on the ground situation and history using which almost every neighbor of china settled their boundary with china, mostly in favour of the countries that negotiated with china.
If we can not see such simple history and facts, we will be Bali ka bakras of our own ignorance and stupidity.
No one can rescue us!
Sir I humbly submit that your contemplation that we might increase our defence budget and may achieve a victory over Pakistan is extremely misplaced and ought not be considered by men of integrity like you.
The mighty USA could achieve no victory in any country, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, afganistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya or anywhere else.
How can we?
Kashmir is a travesty of history. But it possible to close it with some love and some open mind.
Of course India has blinked for more than half century about Kashmir and about India china boundary!
And suffered! We can prolong our suffering as we are so much used to suffering like Devdass was used to seperation!
But is it the best we can?
I think the answers to Shekhar Gupta’s dilemma are answered himself. What’s the cost we can afford? From a sub 2 % GDP to a low 2% plus GDP … That’s imminently doable and it does translate into a humugous number of Artillery shells ….. what’s the effect? Engagement of Pakistan from a position of strength which is eminently desirable given the long-term nuisance value of a primed antagonistic neighbor ….. Does an escalation below the threshold help our cause … Definitely … Even the seemingly unending supply of Jehadis has a finite number & appetite … Nothing cuts fear as does fear itself … Some select areas along the Line of Control need to get hot, Real Hot, in response to provocations by infiltrating Jihadis. Tbese terrorists may be low life Pakistanis but they are nontheless instruments of their State Power and that requires resources. And our actions do not have to be spelt out as a Strategic Statement of Intent that Shekhar Gupta can understand…. It’s the Big Guns that simply need to do the talking!!!
So sad are your thoughts sir! War or enemity have never been as simple as gentlemen away from them, away from real people think, as you do.
World has seen none like the powerful USA! And usa had been on the run in every place it tried hegemony.
The only issue between India and Pakistan is Kashmir.
We can never win it by gun. No one had ever!
Gentlemen like you do great harm to india and the people of India, without any benefit to yourself or anyone else!
Peace is the greatest gift the world can give itself.
Please do think cool! And try to use sanity and logic and historical precedent on how what you say is right, other than you just saying it to be right!
Shri Gupta Ji, you have been in public life of Journalism in India for quite long! Almost a life time! May you live long!
Sir you ought to be able to appreciate that the problem of Kashmir can never be resolved by anything done between the militaries of India and Pakistan , nor anything done or not done by Indian security forces vis a vis the people of Kashmir.
Concerned people like you must focus that any breach, be it the slightest, of the instrument of accession signed between India and maharajah Harisingh is simply unacceptable and sanotateges every chance of peace.
The arrogance of Indian polity and false nationalism has already trampled enough of that Instrument and the hawks in polity and media are craving for more blood to aboragate article 371 35 and so on. That will be suicidal!
No state can ever suppress completely the cause of any people for freedom and liberty and a nationalist identity.
Kashmir people seek such an identity and as honourable people wenindians ought not object.
We can seek peace with them to be within the constitution of India and have self rule of the kind assured in the instrument of accession, or more like anything under the sun but within Indian constitution as affirmed by a man as great as shri Vajpayee.
You are of course aware of the super confidence of the newbies that draw their strength from ignorance of history and politics but only based on crony capitalist propaganda tricks and feats mastered from shri Joseph Goebbels.
India must workout with open mind a Political solution within the constitution.
All political forces of India must shed their differences on this narrow subject of Kashmir and arrive at a consensus to settle the issue and Perdue that line of consensus with Kashmir people in a manner acceptable to them.
The PoK must be left to Pakistan and the people of pok to sort out!
India must work out complete peace with Pakistan leaving the pok.
We must all realise that between the two nuclear armed nations, there is simply no chance for either to annex the other and takeover the part of Kashmir with the other.
And same applies to india China boundary question.
Let us not be shy to acknowledge that the boundaries between India and china were never negotiated, never mutually determined or agreed.
Once we and Chinese agree on this simple truth, it is a very simple matter for both to arrive at an acceptable boundary settlement taking each other’ real concerns based on the ground situation and history using which almost every neighbor of china settled their boundary with china, mostly in favour of the countries that negotiated with china.
If we can not see such simple history and facts, we will be Bali ka bakras of our own ignorance and stupidity.
No one can rescue us!
Sir I humbly submit that your contemplation that we might increase our defence budget and may achieve a victory over Pakistan is extremely misplaced and ought not be considered by men of integrity like you.
The mighty USA could achieve no victory in any country, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, afganistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya or anywhere else.
How can we?
Kashmir is a travesty of history. But it possible to close it with some love and some open mind.
Of course India has blinked for more than half century about Kashmir and about India china boundary!
And suffered! We can prolong our suffering as we are so much used to suffering like Devdass was used to seperation!
But is it the best we can?
I think the answers to Shekhar Gupta’s dilemma are answered himself. What’s the cost we can afford? From a sub 2 % GDP to a low 2% plus GDP … That’s imminently doable and it does translate into a humugous number of Artillery shells ….. what’s the effect? Engagement of Pakistan from a position of strength which is eminently desirable given the long-term nuisance value of a primed antagonistic neighbor ….. Does an escalation below the threshold help our cause … Definitely … Even the seemingly unending supply of Jehadis has a finite number & appetite … Nothing cuts fear as does fear itself … Some select areas along the Line of Control need to get hot, Real Hot, in response to provocations by infiltrating Jihadis. Tbese terrorists may be low life Pakistanis but they are nontheless instruments of their State Power and that requires resources. And our actions do not have to be spelt out as a Strategic Statement of Intent that Shekhar Gupta can understand…. It’s the Big Guns that simply need to do the talking!!!
So sad are your thoughts sir! War or enemity have never been as simple as gentlemen away from them, away from real people think, as you do.
World has seen none like the powerful USA! And usa had been on the run in every place it tried hegemony.
The only issue between India and Pakistan is Kashmir.
We can never win it by gun. No one had ever!
Gentlemen like you do great harm to india and the people of India, without any benefit to yourself or anyone else!
Peace is the greatest gift the world can give itself.
Please do think cool! And try to use sanity and logic and historical precedent on how what you say is right, other than you just saying it to be right!