Topic: CAPF

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I appreciate IG Kashmir Vijay Sir-IPS about ground reality. It may considered and realized as “Sou baathon ki ek baath” that “CRPF is not working properly”.
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Now come to the point why CRPF don’t work properly..
The reason is. Ground level officers commanding troops are “nikkame nalayak” kism ke NON-IPS officers who are one time wonders entered in Force with limited qualities through less competitive selections and served in force behind fencing without dealing even a single criminal case, social issues, civil public problems, human rights touch or at least solo headed(not joint/outer cordon type CAPF ops) operation based on own intelligence etc as like hardworking IPS officers of state Police STFs, SOGs, ARs, Greyhonds/Octopus etc. are doing right now even in Covid-19 situation.
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And lives and livlihoods of CAPF jawans are endangered under “nikkame nalayak londiyabaaz” Non-IPS officers who wish to chat with unknown no. until to be trapped or require to pay cost/apologise or finally on exposed character to punish the source who exposed their dirty character on having CJM level posting in highly responsible Commandant level officer rank.
Hence kindly take appropriate action against such characterless Commandants or be responsible to promote such filthy nature officers of your honored Police Department.

All cadres must be commanded by its own people. These corrupt n spineless IAS/IPS are spoiling all depts wherever they go. Politicians favour them as ther lick their feet.
No IPS should be in CAPF.
Supreme court must direct the govt instantly..else a few gud orgs wil also get spoiled.
Regards to Sood Sahib.

Jai hind
If rpf can get their due with same judgement why cant capf
We are also sons of the this motherland

The post by Ex-ADG BSF, mr. Sood, is pin pointed and elaborately hit the targeted area of concern by CAPF Officers and IPS. He expressed his concern to strengthen CAPF however IPSs have their own priorities.
I had also gone through the article of Mr. Abhinav Kumar. He just pissed poison in that article. It is beyond imagination that he had been on deputation to CAPF deptt. It is learnt that his personal conduct with his subordinates in that department was very rude and he behaved like a king or tanashah! Pol usually not remember him with good gesture. That is he earned from CAPF! On the other hand CAPF officers has their moto to earn respect from his juniors not by position but by his deeds! This is the thing CAPF carry with them with every transfer and retirement. This is the basic difference why CAPF is more reliable than IPS.

I agree with Mr Sood , the person who has served in any organisation from beginning should be given charge of handling management posts. Few IPS officers not only demeaning CAPF officers experience and knowledge but also demeaning UPSC, Supreme Court, Parliament, Cabinet Ministers, Cabinet Committee. Am I living in 1920 or 2020.

Veey well written sir! CAPF officers are matured and capable to lead the forces. Time has come to be empowered by Govt, Better late than never.

I must say sir that you are true gentleman. Logical answer without any grudges. Thats the thing Mr.Abhinav need to know.

The concerns are put to the point by Sood ji. CAPF is bright organisation which is sometimes neglected of its due rights. They are everywhere from our borders being the first line of defense to the internal forests of India fighting naxalism. They are a professional force who deserve to have their leadership. IPS officers have contributed in raising the organisation but now it is more of a relaxed tenure for them now. If they want to still command it why don;’t IPS officers join at the AC level and up. Why only take the plum DIG and above posting. A leader should command his men from the front like Commadant Chetan Cheetah. How many IPS officers have displayed the same valor in a CAPF tenure?

We are moving towards an inquisitive generation where the Inspector/ Constable is well educated most of them having Masters in their credit. They would not take orders from a cell phone call coming from an air conditioned room in safe zone. They want their officers with them, encouraging them. That is the reason Defense Tri- Service Officers still command the respect and most of the times even after retirement. They stand with their men on the ground and Commanding Officers are martyred doing the same.

CAPF officers across services understand and feel the pulse of their men in combat. Hence they would be aware of it when the reach the top of the ladder.

I hope the day comes when CAPF officers from their own cadres are the top bosses of their Forces.
Thanks to all CAPF personnel for their service.

One can find the difference between two articles. This one puts points in logical and practical perspective.

Well written article by an Ex CAPF officer. Every force should be commanded by its own cadre officer lest it might suffer from temporary bosses. IPS officers should better leave CAPF ASAP so that their dignity do not go rock bottom

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Brilliant piece,sir.I ‘d like to cite the following-

1. The palpable exasperation of the cadre officers is the result of odious obduracy of some IPS officers who wish to perpetuate their sojourn in CAPFs.The cadre officers,for decades, endured an tortuous legal battle and got their due only in 2019.But,things have come to a head when the directions of the HON’BLE SC and the Govt. are not being implemented in the right spirit.These shenanigans have resulted in massive restlessness and mistrust in the cadre officers
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In the name of discipline and decorum,they are being asked to keep mum while downright injustice runs amok.This belies a soldier’s innate reflex to oppose wrongs.

2. The use of AIS,Federalism is the last of their refuge and tries to portray the issue as a career problem of cadre officers vis-a -vis national interest whose self proclaimed flag bearers are the IPS officers.Surprisingly,it is just the opposite.It is an issue whose genesis lies in the diabolical avarice of a handful of IPS officers.It is noteworthy,as I pointed in my previous write up too,that the CAPF officers are not demanding posts in State police apparatus,which ironically,after the grant of OGAS status,they actually can.
The only bone of contention is their mother organisations who are sadly busy acting against,hounding and witch hunting their own cadre officers.
The debate has stooped to a level wherein senior IPS officers are extending the argument of clearing the toughest examination mankind ever faced,..what could possibly be more puerile??

3.Also,few IPS officers with sinister designs to incite disaffection amongst the PBOR against the cadre officers , keep harping on their poor career progressions and avenues to suggest that cadre officers are apathetic to their interests which is downright wrong and condemnable.The cadre officers are extremely happy to see novel vistas for the junior commanders.

But,everyone has to understand that cadre officers,too clear an exam conducted by the UPSC and join at the same level as an IPS officer,thus,the question is that of inequity.Their demand of parity with the latter is genuine and must not be trivialised.Also,the parity is not a mathematical one,as some of the polymaths may fallaciously assume.The voices of a few well meaning IPS officers who support the cause are being drowned in the ongoing mudslinging .

Mr. Sood’s article over the issues related to CAPF not only have logical and factual basis but also huge experience of roughly around four decades of service to this nation as a borderman.
I have been following IPS Abhinav’s tweeter handle and his articles on print for quite a time now. His disrespectful remarks to CAPF and Army veterans hurts me. It is simply not in our Indian culture to disrespect elders in such derogatory way. His remarks are mostly based on higher difficulty of Civil Service Examination which he thinks should be sufficient for IPS officers to lead CAPF. However he completely ignores basic fact that CAPF recruitment is focused on its need and has element Physical Efficiency Test which is added layer for selection of candidates suitable for job profile.
Sood’s article are based on logical premises and legal testimonies. No doubt they are of academic importance for a student of law and border management and related issues. It is therefore a treat to students and juniors alike.
The debate had started from Mr. Vijay Kumar’s comment of CRPF which were condemned by all corners.
The main issue about deputation of IPS officers to CAPF is settled by Supreme Court as well as Cabinet. CAPFs were granted organized cadre way back 1986. Delhi High court and Supreme Court has reiterated its judgment in favour CAPF cadre and now stay has been put on deputation upto level of IG.
DOPT has clarified that there is only one type of Orginized status for Grade A central government employees. DOPT in office memorandum no I-11019/12/2008-CRD dated November 19, 2009 has clarified that “Organized status” means that “All vanancies above JTS and upto SAG level in such services are filled up by promotion from the next lower grade.”
It will be logical and also will be in the interest of nation if Cabinet’s decision is implemented in letter and spirit. CAPF cadre has experienced officers who can not just lead their organization but also make it more efficient by way of reforms. As Mr. Sood pointed out IPS officers who come on deputation for 2, 3 years do not have motivation to make incremental changes neither do they have operational experience about working of these organization. Similar situation was also evident in Coast Guards where Navy was holding higher posts. But as officers from Coastal guard were groomed by Navy and experienced cadre became available, Navy left Coast Guards which now has DG from its own cadre.
CAPF cadre has grown in size and has task cut out for it which demands full time leaders who have ground level experience and domain expertise. Utilizing their experience can go long way in solving our internal security challenges as well as intricate border issues.

This shows how low levels these officers of CAPF and IPS can go slandering each other. Let constables run the forces, officers seem to be of no use

विभिन्न प्रकार के कार्यों में लगे किसी भी सुरक्षा संगठन को सफल होने के लिए एक दृढ़ नेतृत्व की आवश्यकता होती है। आदर्श स्थिति यह है कि नेतृत्व को नीचे से ऊपर की ओर बढ़ना चाहिए जिसमें ऊपर की ओर बढ़ने वाले व्यक्ति को जमीनी स्तर पर कठिनाईयों एवं दबावों का अनुभव रहना चाहिए और इस प्रकार उसे ऐसे लोगों की बेहतर समझ भी होनी चाहिए जिन पर अंततोगत्वा उसे कमान करना है। यही वह अंतर है जो केंद्रीय सशस्त्र पुलिस बल (सीएपीएफ) के संग्रह और सेना के प्रदर्शन को अलग करता है। हालांकि इस सभी संगठनों के लिए जवान लगभग एक जैसे ही होते हैं, लगभग एक ही प्रकार के प्रशिक्षण से गुजरते हैं और जम्मू-कश्मीर घाटी तथा उत्तर पूर्व में आतंक विरोधी अभियानों में संयुक्त रूप से कार्य करते हैं।

सशस्त्र बल ही एकमात्र ऐसा संगठन है जिसमें कोई बगैर उचित प्रक्रिया का पालन किए या बिना मेहनत के नहीं आ सकता। जो नीचे से उठ कर ऊंचाई तक पहुंचते हैं वे अपनी टुकडि़यों के साथ साथ खुद मेहनत करते हैं, एक ही प्रकार की सुविधाओं का लाभ उठाते हैं और समान प्रकार के खतरे मोल लेते हैं। वे टुकडि़यों का नेतृत्व करते हैं और खुद भी अपने सीनियरों की अगुवाई में काम कर चुके होते हैं। सरल तरीके से कहा जाए तो यह ऐसा एकमात्र संगठन है जो लीडर बनाता है और लीडरों का नेतृत्व करता है।

इसलिए इसमें हमेशा अधिक मिलनसार होने का स्वभाव और आपसी समझ होती है। यह नेतृत्व में विश्वास और भरोसे का निर्माण करती है, आदेशों की स्वीकृति को आसान बनाती है और सौहार्द तथा बलिदान की भावना को आत्मसात करती है। यहां तक कि दूसरी बटालियन या रेजीमेंट के कमान अधिकारी को भी टुकड़ी द्वारा स्वीकार करने से पहले खुद को साबित करना पड़ता है।

दूसरी तरफ सीएपीएफ के अपने कैडर की ही अनदेखी होती है जब उन्हें आईपीएस से भर्ती को स्वीकार करने के लिए मजबूर होना पड़ता है। बचने की यह भावना सीधे सेना के ऊंचे रैंक से आती है। ऐसे लोगों में जिन्हें शामिल किया गया है, किसी ने भी उन जवानों के साथ कभी काम नहीं किया होता है जिन पर उनसे कमान करने की अपेक्षा की जाती है, उन्हें जमीनी हकीकत का कोई पता नहीं होता और वे सैन्य टुकडि़यों से कटे हुए होते हैं। जो लोग सीएपीएफ में प्रवेश करने में सफल हो जाते हैं, उन्होंने केवल राज्य पुलिस स्तर में काम किया होता है, उनके पास उस माहौल का अनुभव और समझ नहीं होती जहां सीएपीएफ संचालित होता है। ऊपरी रैंक में इस समावेश का इस श्रृंखला में नीचे तक प्रभाव पड़ता है।

ऐसा देखा गया है कि सीएपीएफ में कनिष्ठ नेतृत्व मजबूत और आदर्श होता है लेकिन उनके एवं उनके वरिष्ठ अधिकारियों के बीच का अंतराल बढ़ता ही जा रहा है क्योंकि सीनियर अधिकारियों में इन संगठनों को लेकर सीमित समझ होती है। अधिकारियों को ऊपर से लाए जाने से अधिकारी कैडर का हौसला भी प्रभावित होता है। उन्हें पता होता है कि अपनी काबिलियत और प्रदर्शन के बावजूद वे कभी भी शीर्ष तक नहीं पहुंच पाएंगे क्योंकि वह पद आईपीएस के लिए आरक्षित होता है। इस प्रणाली के खिलाफ नाराजगी का इजहार निचले स्तर के अधिकारियों द्वारा नहीं किया जा सकता क्योंकि उन्हें भी उसी प्रक्रिया से गुजरना होता है जिन्हें वे नामंजूर करना चाहते हैं।

ऐसा संभव है कि आरंभ में यह प्रणाली इसलिए बनाई गई हो क्योंकि इस संगठन में आवश्यक स्तर पर इसके अपने सीनियर कैडर की कमी थी क्योंकि ये पद ज्यादातर आजादी के बाद गठित किए गए थे। समय गुजरने के साथ बल की ताकत कई गुना बढ़ती गई और इसके साथ साथ इसका अपना कैडर भी हो गया। अधिकारी कैडर को पर्याप्त जमीनी अनुभव प्राप्त हो गया है और उन्होंने सफलतापूर्वक ऑपरेशनों में अपनी कमान का नेतृत्व किया है, इसलिए वे इसी सोपान पर आगे चढ़ने और अपने खुद के संगठनों की कमान करने के सर्वथा योग्य हैं।

किसी भी संगठन का प्रदर्शन उसके शीर्ष नेतृत्व की प्रकृति से उत्पन्न होता है। अगर वही कमजोर, नापसंद, नावाकिफ और दूसरे कैडर से उनके ऊपर से लादा हुआ है तो हमेशा ही भरोसे की कमी रहेगी जिससे प्रदर्शन प्रभावित होगा। अगर नेतृत्व अपने भीतर से उठ कर आता है तो प्रदर्शन में बहुत बड़ा अंतर दिखेगा।

इसलिए सीएपीएफ के नेतृत्व स्तरों में सुधार लाने के दो विकल्प बच जाते हैं। पहला यह है कि अगर इसी प्रक्रिया को जारी रखा जाना है तो प्रत्येक आईपीएस अधिकारी को अनिवार्य रूप से अराजकता विरोधी मुहिमों में तैनात किसी सीएपीएफ बटालियनों में कंपनी कमांडर के रूप में एक निश्चित कार्यकाल तक काम करना चाहिए। केवल इस प्रकार के कार्य अनुभव प्राप्त लोगों को ही बाद में इसमें शामिल किया जाना चाहिए। दूसरा विकल्प, किसी और संगठन से शीर्ष पद पर लाकर बिठाने की इस पद्धति को रद्द कर देने और खुद सीएपीएफ के कैडर को पदोन्नत करना है।

सरकार को निश्चित रूप से सीएपीएफ के प्रति अपने दृष्टिकोण पर पुनर्विचार करना चाहिए और उन्हें केवल आईपीएस का विशिष्ट अधिकार समझना तथा उनके साथ एक दूसरी श्रेणी के बल के रूप में बर्ताव करना छोड़ देना चाहिए। उनके अपने कैडर अब बलों को कमान करने में सक्षम हैं और उन्हें आवश्यक अवसर दिया जाना चाहिए। आईपीएस को राज्य स्तर पर उनके अपने संगठन को संचालित करने के लिए छोड़ दिया जाना चाहिए।

All alligations made by Mr. Abhinav on highly decorated officer ADG S.K.Sood (Retd) were baseless nd mere a mixture of pseudo superiority complex and frustration.In this article writer has again exposed how lobby is targeting and threatening cadre officers by transferring them without completion of minimum tenure which is also violation of recent instructions of MHA regarding transfers.
Cadre officers are asking for justice as OGAS has yet not been implemented even after one and half year of SC judgement.IPS are now influencing DoPT by creating a separate and inferior category of OGAS for CAPF exclusively which will kill the spirit of pay parity under NFFU.When supreme court has already examined all aspects and given status of OGAS to CAPF cadre officers since 1986 then such recommendations of DoPT only shows malafide intentions to deny justice.
Difference in the residency period for IPS and cadre officers for the same rank can not be different with the logic of administrative requirement.How can an outsider with less service is more eligible for IG rank of CAPF than cadre officer having more service in his own force.In simple term an IPS officer having 18 years of service is eligible for IG rank even if he have zero experience of CAPF but CAPF cadre officers serving in own organisation will be eligible for the same rank after 24 years of service. Isnt a murder of equal opportunity and open violation of fundamental rights.
Mentioning toughness of civil service examination doesnt justify injustice . Moreover Assistant Commandants of CAPFs are also selected through UPSC and questioning their ability is doubting UPSC ability to select.Asstt Comdt also comepte physical efficiency test which is nowhere for IPS again shows an IPS doesn’t fulfill requirement of Job of paramilitary .Exam for Assistant Comdt is conducted separately by UPSC ,which means only those who want to join and serve these forces appear for exam while majority IPS having their first option IAS or IFS while opting services in CSE.It is just by chance they get IPS.
Days are not so far when govt will show them right path but if they wish to continue with such arrogance and attitude it’s their wish as they are just mocking themselves and their own service.

Well said. IPS are useless and spineless organisation,, they can’t even controll law and order in any state. Yet they are bosses everywhere. Thank God they are not heading army navy and airforce. Unfortunately, the secretary again is IAS , an another incompetent fellow who helms the affair there. Govt should stop dependency on these IAS ips. Or other reason to depend up on them is , they dance to the tune of bosses. Which professional organisation like army and crpf bsf will not do.

Just a small reminder to the self proclaimed gods of Indian Policing, there is a paper called ‘Ethics’ in the CSE mains which would shake the very insides if pondered over.
Please stop this mudslinging and allow the rightful to happen gracefully as the uniform on your shoulder would expect of you. Reinvent the dilapidated respect for other uniformed men as they serve the very motherland bound by the same constitution which declares you to be an all India service.
Don’t count on the fallacy of being deserving to lead without actual expertise just because you prepared well and cleared a prestigious exam.
That may prove your mettle in the rhetorics, but not in the jungle warfare. This game has other set of rules which recognizes the men suited for it.
Please display the courage of acknowledging and take pride in it. Jai Hind.

IPS know nothing about many operational things including war time role, even major and minor ops of war, they term this expertise as knowledge of “Nut and Bolts”. I couldn’t stop sharing one serious discussion when using of sections is discussed, one senior IPS started saying sections of IPC and CrPC! Can anything be more ridiculous than this! “Jao yar apna state ki policing sambhalo jiski nakami ki wajah se CAPFs ko requisition karte ho har chhoti badi chiz me”.

The stand of the government on the whole issue of specialists vs generalists is quite confusing. On the one hand we have policies where calibre and need of “professionals of the field” -specialist lateral entries- are being appointed at Joint Secretary level in various Ministries bringing about a much needed change in the bureaucratic setup of the colonial times. On the other hand we are witnessing downright ignorance of the harm being done by generalists in the CAPFs which are today instrumental in keeping safe national security on the borderlands and the hinterlands. It is high time that the government recognise that specialists in CAPFs will make these indispensable forces more professional, efficient and economical.

With almost seven decades of experience on ground and in handling their forces, CAPFs cadre Officers are qualified to run their own organizations. They have proved their mettle in Naxal dominated areas, handling militancy alongside the army in the valley.

IPS claiming superiority over capf cadre officers on behest of tougher examination doesn’t hold water as CAPF are combat forces best run by home grown commanders leading from front and not by someone good at intellect only (as if capf is an internal security think tank of Police).

The articles is a reflection of frustration and dissatisfaction the CAPF cadre officers are going through. Reading the article reminds me of a joke our batchmates used to crack on eachother, about getting retired as Dy Commdt (I am an Asst Commdt direct recruit). Mr Abhinav IPS should’ve understood that it is not the question of mere exam (UPSC Civil Services here) but more than that. Afterall, how will someone with their stomach full understand problems of the hungry. Also, regular comments by Mr Abhinav about action against any CAPF officer, who expresses his/her conern about their genuine rights reminds me how the British raj used to haunt anyone who raises voice against the raj. They did it indirectly, he’s doing it directly, no other difference. As brothers in uniform, they (the IPS) should understand the concern of CAPF officers and leave the forces to the cadre officers rather than clinging to CAPFs even when courts tell (order rather) them to move out. I’ve known IPS officers, who don’t “like” their cadre state and come to CAPFs on deputations just to spend time near their houses, while for a cadre officer, requesting for posting near hometown is a crime and discouraged invariably. Why is this step motherly treatment? Is it just because of one exam and may be sometimes by luck (many rankers in their interview say u need to have luck to get through) that someone got through civils exam and became IPS? It’s been 66 years the Britishers left us, and when we hated the discrimination by outsider, why do we follow the footsteps of the Britishers again? Its high time that Mr Abhinav and all other officers singing the song of IPS in CAPF at higher ranks need to rethink their logic once again.

Sir as we know IPS Officers also know there days in CAPF are over….so they are just frustrated and in frustration taking steps which os further downgrading their services whose reputation has been so hardly built by their seniors.
I would say to them ” SIR PLS GO WITH GRACE, WE ARE JUST FIGHTING WHATS HAS BEEN LONG DUE”

It’s a grave injustice to the officers of CAPF denying their genuine rights for better career growth…the nation should not expect from the heart service from these officers unless and until their long term demands are met…the fuedalist attitude of IPS lobby causing threat to national security.

Delaying of OGAS implementation is showing malafide intent of a powerful lobby .this intent won’t perpetuate anymore.
#OGAS2CAPF

excellent article showing the ground realities .let us prayer to god that peoples sitting in AC rooms and serving in their honeymoon postings will understand it. The indian parasite service is making these organisations hollower on daily basis.