Punjab police and the woman have offered very divergent accounts of the bizarre episode, which took place in a village near Amritsar earlier this week.
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There are 4 members in this discussion, 3 of whom have field experience and 1 is an analyst. All agree that Doval is not to be blamed. At the end comes Chibber’s input which is the complete opposite. Even then, his own presentation fails to convince the reader that Doval is to blame. I have done my medical studies with proper Kashmiri Muslim as well as Jammu Hindu students. I am very well aware of the history of J&K and who created the untenable situation in Kashmir to the extent that the people had to take up arms with Syed Salahuddin taking up terrorism and setting up Hizbul Mujaheedin.
From there, it slipped into Pakistani hands. Here again, previous Congress governments have made inexplicable concessions to terror outfits and their supporters throughout the post-independence period. For 70 years, they have tried the policy of appeasement. Terrorism ended in Punjab not by appeasement but by hard work and hard stance.
And then, complacency set in again and until 2014, the same old formulas were rehashed by Congress.
When I myself as a doctor have to give time for a new treatment to succeed in treating a disease that has not responded to treatment before, I have to give it adequate time. It also requires patient cooperation which is not possible when the patient refuses to take treatment. Kashmir is the patient who refuses treatment and Pakistan is the patient’s family who fans prejudices in the patient against the treatment on a daily basis.
Thus, after having followed Chibber’s articles since several months and now this comment, I can only call it immature that he believes that Doval is a superman. Human psychology tends to be simplistic. You need a leader to focus the attention and efforts of all the followers but that does not mean the leader actually executes each and every minute action of the treatment.
The way Chibber is arguing, Doval is responsible if a solitary Kashmiri man fails to have his morning ablutions on a particular day.
No wonder, Indians are getting tired of grandstanding journalists.
Final note- I am not exactly a fan of Doval or Modi. Modi has called all modern medicine doctors thieves in London in April,2018 but none of these grandstanding journalists have said or written anything about it despite doctors protesting.
No doctor is claiming that nothing illegal happens in the medical field but no medical organisation has protected doctors who have been legally found to be criminal. Compared to that blackmail by journalists is a daily incident all over the country. Even national level & international journalists and analysts have been caught with prima facie evidence. Does that mean that I can call all journalists as thieves?
Apparently, journalists of any media seem to think that doctors do not have fundamental rights but only patients do. Can you show me a reference in the Constitution or in any law book anywhere in the world let alone India where it is given as such. Then why do you people do one sided journalism to suit your own prejudices and political motives. And when you do so on a daily basis for decades together, who do you think is responsible for people’s loss of faith in your journalism.
Mr Manish C very conveniently avoids d point that since 2014, not a single terror related incident (islamic) occurred outside JK and Punjab. He also excludes that the political role of AAP was allegedly instrumental in terms of Khalisthani terrorism. But still, a desk job must be giving him much for ‘insight’ than field job. But pls advice him to don’t make a mockery of himself next time.
Touche. Solid ɑrguments. Keep up the good spirit.
There are 4 members in this discussion, 3 of whom have field experience and 1 is an analyst. All agree that Doval is not to be blamed. At the end comes Chibber’s input which is the complete opposite. Even then, his own presentation fails to convince the reader that Doval is to blame. I have done my medical studies with proper Kashmiri Muslim as well as Jammu Hindu students. I am very well aware of the history of J&K and who created the untenable situation in Kashmir to the extent that the people had to take up arms with Syed Salahuddin taking up terrorism and setting up Hizbul Mujaheedin.
From there, it slipped into Pakistani hands. Here again, previous Congress governments have made inexplicable concessions to terror outfits and their supporters throughout the post-independence period. For 70 years, they have tried the policy of appeasement. Terrorism ended in Punjab not by appeasement but by hard work and hard stance.
And then, complacency set in again and until 2014, the same old formulas were rehashed by Congress.
When I myself as a doctor have to give time for a new treatment to succeed in treating a disease that has not responded to treatment before, I have to give it adequate time. It also requires patient cooperation which is not possible when the patient refuses to take treatment. Kashmir is the patient who refuses treatment and Pakistan is the patient’s family who fans prejudices in the patient against the treatment on a daily basis.
Thus, after having followed Chibber’s articles since several months and now this comment, I can only call it immature that he believes that Doval is a superman. Human psychology tends to be simplistic. You need a leader to focus the attention and efforts of all the followers but that does not mean the leader actually executes each and every minute action of the treatment.
The way Chibber is arguing, Doval is responsible if a solitary Kashmiri man fails to have his morning ablutions on a particular day.
No wonder, Indians are getting tired of grandstanding journalists.
Final note- I am not exactly a fan of Doval or Modi. Modi has called all modern medicine doctors thieves in London in April,2018 but none of these grandstanding journalists have said or written anything about it despite doctors protesting.
No doctor is claiming that nothing illegal happens in the medical field but no medical organisation has protected doctors who have been legally found to be criminal. Compared to that blackmail by journalists is a daily incident all over the country. Even national level & international journalists and analysts have been caught with prima facie evidence. Does that mean that I can call all journalists as thieves?
Apparently, journalists of any media seem to think that doctors do not have fundamental rights but only patients do. Can you show me a reference in the Constitution or in any law book anywhere in the world let alone India where it is given as such. Then why do you people do one sided journalism to suit your own prejudices and political motives. And when you do so on a daily basis for decades together, who do you think is responsible for people’s loss of faith in your journalism.
Mr Manish C very conveniently avoids d point that since 2014, not a single terror related incident (islamic) occurred outside JK and Punjab. He also excludes that the political role of AAP was allegedly instrumental in terms of Khalisthani terrorism. But still, a desk job must be giving him much for ‘insight’ than field job. But pls advice him to don’t make a mockery of himself next time.