Print&Shekar Gupta have realized there is no gain in modi&Hindu bashing.
If India has to give up kashmir be it…but India should be homeland of Hindus.
If muslims can have 57 islamic countries why can’t Hindus rightfully claim what is theirs??
Either every countries should be secular..if not then Hindus have rights to make India homeland of Hindus&Sikhs.
Christianity and Islam are as plural as Hinduism.
If the writer is unable to see violence perpetrated in the name of hindutva and still defensive it, it is nothing but a shame to put an article like this.
if you hold your argument, how would you justify mob lynching of Brahmin Hindus in Kashmir, and the aggressive policies of muslims who seek to enforce sharia law wherever they go? I need not include incidents that prove my point, there are plenty that flood social media.
Why don’t we erase the column,asking your religion from school, college certificates and all official documents of Govt of India?. Any govt or law maker has the courage to do that? Do they have the courage to pass a bill on it? Congress had the chance since Independence,but they haven’t done. Now BJP using the mistake or lack of vision of Congress for BJP’s advantage. And citizen has to suffer.
Even I thought about that, but I guess it isn’t happening anytime soon.
The basic fact is that Christianity is a cult in which a historical person is deified, and thus fraudulently designated as a religion. This illegal state, even for a thousand years and with billion followers, is still an illegal state, and everyone who supports this illegal state in the legislature is acting lawlessly – here illegally in terms of religion. Moreover, it is a fraudulent cult whose centerpiece is the daily blessing of alcohol, even in front of children. Open your eyes! Christianity in reality, besides everything that is too part of non-Christian life, is simply a fraudulent cult of alcohol, spread in this way by trespassing of legislation through power and political paths – it has nothing to do with ordinary people. Therefore you can reject Christianity, if you reject it as a religion, you will never reject it because it is not a religion. Will anyone be prudent? filozofiaschmidt.wordpress.com
This is Hindutva propaganda cloaked as intelligent thought. Islam and Christianity are not monolithic as portrayed. The simplest thing is to separate governance and religion. Let the government focus on improving the economy and people will take care of their spiritual needs. We don’t need to spend so much time on this topic. Fact of the matter is that the government is unable to figure out what to do with the economy. So all their energy is focused on Hindutva.
did not detect any intelligence – otherwise totally agree.
All Hindus should read this article. A new Hindu awakening is needed to come out of the brainwashing they have been subjected to by the lefties for decades. Can’t wait for a wholesale rewriting on a indian textbooks and history books. A good starting is to disown the works of Romila Thapar, Irfan Habib and their clan.
this is called revisionism. people like you do not believe in our history, our culture, our constitution. you only believe in a ideology influenced by foreign dictators who ended-up devastating their countries and half the world.
It is cunning to say Christianity and Islam are monolithic and Hindus are not. They have as many divisions as Hindus have. Throughout history they fought among themselves like we did.
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AND they have had voices that spoke of unity and love too. the narrative of “indic” dis-unity v/s “abrahamic” unity is total nonsense.
Political hindutva will collapse like a house of cards as a lot fault lines have been put under the carpets. Hindu society like others is not monolithic. Historical enmities and rivalries , along caste, language,dominance etc are bound to raise their heads sooner or later.
The point about Hinduism and its texts is also built on the fact that there are many of them written at various points in history. None were written by somebody like Savarkar for the core purpose of meeting a political ideology in the modern sense. Secondly, to compare Hinduism to Abrahamic religions without context to the region where they originated is disservice to both academic religious studies and disingenuous to the faiths itself. Wish there was a debate on the author’s perceived pre-eminence in comparative religious understanding, the edifice of which is more monolithic than the great Brihadeeshwara temple. History is context and understanding its paths is painstaking. Synthesizing the vastness to a 1000 word counternarrative is as stupid as Tharoor’s tweet!
this is a hodgepodge of incoherent thoughts, underpinned by a single idea – hindu-bachao! the approach reminds me of something i read about the islamic-state and why they often used to attack secular targets rather than those from other religions. they reckoned that they will only thrive in a world where “gray areas are destroyed” – meaning it is inconvenient for them to have people around who articulate an inclusive humanistic view point. same for hindutva guys – intellectually, they must target secularists even more than islamists.
Unable to understand, either because of a real lack of grey matter or simply due to preconceived prejudice ( after all a regular reader of The Print hardly expects a reasoned defence of Hidutva in this publication) does not make it a hodgepodge.
The hatred that is stirred in you may speak of your own predisposition and a serious deficiency of tolerance , love and understanding towards others of differing opinion and a false moral superiority sourced from deep ignorance.
May you be blessed with wisdom and knowledge !
I don’t know who has brainwashed you and whether in spite of your pseudo you have read Indian history, or indeed Canadian history, but if you have any historical perspective at all, or any training in logical analysis, you will see the logical fallacies and the inherent intolerance in the above article.
On another thread in The Print I have been threatened with a bullet. Secularists ARE their main enemies.
Same for secularists who don’t exist is Abrahmic extremist countries around the world but will cry foul against Hindus.
Secularist can’t see Islamist created Pakistan but secularist will forsee if someone even talks about having Hindu Rashtra
A long rant with no substance! At the end it does not matter what you call it and what false history and irrational narrative you use. any agenda of hate needs to be resisted. The moment Hindutva gives up its hatred towards others and agrees to be egalitarian, I, personally will stop opposing it. The narrative of religion-X v/s religion-Y or clash of civilizations is now dated – “rotten in the sack” (bosta-pocha) as we say in Bengali.
Do Abrahamic religionists will give up the us-vs-them narrative? If you ask only the rational to desist from religious pride, and others to keep theirs intact, it does not work. Being against common sense you see.
Who says I approve of any form of religious pride? yet, as I happen to have been born a Hindu (and never converted to anything else), my criticism is the most relevant for Hinduism – neither Christianity nor Islam, nor indeed Judaism lacks people who ask the same of their own religion. Gandhi and Ambedkar did the same as I am doing and I am proud to be in this company.
Bravo!
In atavistic times , the only sort of conquest was by sword. The Hindus lost all the wars winning some battles here or there. While one glorifies one’s own winners ,those whom to we lost are villains ,rightly so. How so can we get even, now is the time. For all the wars we lost ,all the temples demolished , the gods have given us just opportunity,the opportunity to regurgitate every loss &and the brave &the ferocious are fighting wars that were finished 100 of years ago.
Even now in Assam main adversary of Assamese caste Hindu are Bengali caste Hindus for the simple reason that they are the main competitors for jobs. Throughout history Hindus fought against Hindus. No Hindu states liked Maratha subjugation or their cruel acts. Religious identity alone is never enough, this is true of Christians and Muslims as well.
You are dumb, Assamese Hindus don’t want any Muslims, they are not opposed to Bengali Hindus, they just don’t everybody to be settled only in their province. For Marathas, they were the ones responsible for mughal tyranny, give them the credit for it. Cruel act? They freed a large part of India from mughal bondage.
You are ignorant of history. Both Assam and Maratha. No point arguing with you.
Assamese Hindus are not opposed to Bengali Hindus: are you MAD or simply ignorant? ask ANY one with a modicum of knowledge on the matter – Assamese have opposed Bengalis for many decades now. To understand why, you need to either as a native or read-up.
Yes, the was started by them, it should be our job to finish. Revenge must be taken for the killings by two ME based devil faiths.
Somewhere a mental asylum is missing an inmate by name Rajvir Singh.
It is foreign funded jihadi-green virus and xian mafia who are the curse in India, Hindutva is soul of India to fight the two demons you xian stooge @Anon
Brilliant article with insightful take on the contentious issues. Ideally, RSS or BJP thinkers should have done this sort of analysis to counter attacks from likes of Shashi! The article needs to be studied and widely discussed. In fact, this article provides a basis for a formal ‘religious group’ to be called ‘Hindutva’ ! (Political) Hinduism, as understood by Shashi, will be for the sickulars!!
Exactly they hate Hindutva because it eliminates the caste diversity used to exploit Hindus which was created by Brits through 1872 caste census and their political stooge AO Hume’s Indian National Congress. It creates single Hindu entity which they fear will to ending of their Muslim or xian politics.
Great article, all Hi dus should read it and understand it properly.
Only in the land of the blind and foolish would Ashok be a thug and Rajvir a scholar. In reality Rajvir is the scum of the earth.
are you honestly unaware of hindutvas deep connections to the christian right?
Exactly. The RSS was NOT a product of traditional Hindu values; it was completely based off the Italian Fascists. But this is NEVER disclosed, because that would make the RSS’s garbage ideology nothing different from the people they so love to diss : Sonia, Rahul and Priyanka Gandhi. RSS only believes in becoming an Indian version of the Schutzstaffel (SS), or the Sturmabteilung (SA) – two organizations whose names have become infamous in the annals of world history, for all the evils they committed.
Print&Shekar Gupta have realized there is no gain in modi&Hindu bashing.
If India has to give up kashmir be it…but India should be homeland of Hindus.
If muslims can have 57 islamic countries why can’t Hindus rightfully claim what is theirs??
Either every countries should be secular..if not then Hindus have rights to make India homeland of Hindus&Sikhs.
*defending
Christianity and Islam are as plural as Hinduism.
If the writer is unable to see violence perpetrated in the name of hindutva and still defensive it, it is nothing but a shame to put an article like this.
if you hold your argument, how would you justify mob lynching of Brahmin Hindus in Kashmir, and the aggressive policies of muslims who seek to enforce sharia law wherever they go? I need not include incidents that prove my point, there are plenty that flood social media.
Why don’t we erase the column,asking your religion from school, college certificates and all official documents of Govt of India?. Any govt or law maker has the courage to do that? Do they have the courage to pass a bill on it? Congress had the chance since Independence,but they haven’t done. Now BJP using the mistake or lack of vision of Congress for BJP’s advantage. And citizen has to suffer.
Even I thought about that, but I guess it isn’t happening anytime soon.
The basic fact is that Christianity is a cult in which a historical person is deified, and thus fraudulently designated as a religion. This illegal state, even for a thousand years and with billion followers, is still an illegal state, and everyone who supports this illegal state in the legislature is acting lawlessly – here illegally in terms of religion. Moreover, it is a fraudulent cult whose centerpiece is the daily blessing of alcohol, even in front of children. Open your eyes! Christianity in reality, besides everything that is too part of non-Christian life, is simply a fraudulent cult of alcohol, spread in this way by trespassing of legislation through power and political paths – it has nothing to do with ordinary people. Therefore you can reject Christianity, if you reject it as a religion, you will never reject it because it is not a religion. Will anyone be prudent? filozofiaschmidt.wordpress.com
This is Hindutva propaganda cloaked as intelligent thought. Islam and Christianity are not monolithic as portrayed. The simplest thing is to separate governance and religion. Let the government focus on improving the economy and people will take care of their spiritual needs. We don’t need to spend so much time on this topic. Fact of the matter is that the government is unable to figure out what to do with the economy. So all their energy is focused on Hindutva.
did not detect any intelligence – otherwise totally agree.
All Hindus should read this article. A new Hindu awakening is needed to come out of the brainwashing they have been subjected to by the lefties for decades. Can’t wait for a wholesale rewriting on a indian textbooks and history books. A good starting is to disown the works of Romila Thapar, Irfan Habib and their clan.
this is called revisionism. people like you do not believe in our history, our culture, our constitution. you only believe in a ideology influenced by foreign dictators who ended-up devastating their countries and half the world.
It is cunning to say Christianity and Islam are monolithic and Hindus are not. They have as many divisions as Hindus have. Throughout history they fought among themselves like we did.
.
AND they have had voices that spoke of unity and love too. the narrative of “indic” dis-unity v/s “abrahamic” unity is total nonsense.
Political hindutva will collapse like a house of cards as a lot fault lines have been put under the carpets. Hindu society like others is not monolithic. Historical enmities and rivalries , along caste, language,dominance etc are bound to raise their heads sooner or later.
The point about Hinduism and its texts is also built on the fact that there are many of them written at various points in history. None were written by somebody like Savarkar for the core purpose of meeting a political ideology in the modern sense. Secondly, to compare Hinduism to Abrahamic religions without context to the region where they originated is disservice to both academic religious studies and disingenuous to the faiths itself. Wish there was a debate on the author’s perceived pre-eminence in comparative religious understanding, the edifice of which is more monolithic than the great Brihadeeshwara temple. History is context and understanding its paths is painstaking. Synthesizing the vastness to a 1000 word counternarrative is as stupid as Tharoor’s tweet!
this is a hodgepodge of incoherent thoughts, underpinned by a single idea – hindu-bachao! the approach reminds me of something i read about the islamic-state and why they often used to attack secular targets rather than those from other religions. they reckoned that they will only thrive in a world where “gray areas are destroyed” – meaning it is inconvenient for them to have people around who articulate an inclusive humanistic view point. same for hindutva guys – intellectually, they must target secularists even more than islamists.
Unable to understand, either because of a real lack of grey matter or simply due to preconceived prejudice ( after all a regular reader of The Print hardly expects a reasoned defence of Hidutva in this publication) does not make it a hodgepodge.
The hatred that is stirred in you may speak of your own predisposition and a serious deficiency of tolerance , love and understanding towards others of differing opinion and a false moral superiority sourced from deep ignorance.
May you be blessed with wisdom and knowledge !
I don’t know who has brainwashed you and whether in spite of your pseudo you have read Indian history, or indeed Canadian history, but if you have any historical perspective at all, or any training in logical analysis, you will see the logical fallacies and the inherent intolerance in the above article.
On another thread in The Print I have been threatened with a bullet. Secularists ARE their main enemies.
Same for secularists who don’t exist is Abrahmic extremist countries around the world but will cry foul against Hindus.
Secularist can’t see Islamist created Pakistan but secularist will forsee if someone even talks about having Hindu Rashtra
A long rant with no substance! At the end it does not matter what you call it and what false history and irrational narrative you use. any agenda of hate needs to be resisted. The moment Hindutva gives up its hatred towards others and agrees to be egalitarian, I, personally will stop opposing it. The narrative of religion-X v/s religion-Y or clash of civilizations is now dated – “rotten in the sack” (bosta-pocha) as we say in Bengali.
Do Abrahamic religionists will give up the us-vs-them narrative? If you ask only the rational to desist from religious pride, and others to keep theirs intact, it does not work. Being against common sense you see.
Who says I approve of any form of religious pride? yet, as I happen to have been born a Hindu (and never converted to anything else), my criticism is the most relevant for Hinduism – neither Christianity nor Islam, nor indeed Judaism lacks people who ask the same of their own religion. Gandhi and Ambedkar did the same as I am doing and I am proud to be in this company.
Bravo!
In atavistic times , the only sort of conquest was by sword. The Hindus lost all the wars winning some battles here or there. While one glorifies one’s own winners ,those whom to we lost are villains ,rightly so. How so can we get even, now is the time. For all the wars we lost ,all the temples demolished , the gods have given us just opportunity,the opportunity to regurgitate every loss &and the brave &the ferocious are fighting wars that were finished 100 of years ago.
Even now in Assam main adversary of Assamese caste Hindu are Bengali caste Hindus for the simple reason that they are the main competitors for jobs. Throughout history Hindus fought against Hindus. No Hindu states liked Maratha subjugation or their cruel acts. Religious identity alone is never enough, this is true of Christians and Muslims as well.
You are dumb, Assamese Hindus don’t want any Muslims, they are not opposed to Bengali Hindus, they just don’t everybody to be settled only in their province. For Marathas, they were the ones responsible for mughal tyranny, give them the credit for it. Cruel act? They freed a large part of India from mughal bondage.
You are ignorant of history. Both Assam and Maratha. No point arguing with you.
Assamese Hindus are not opposed to Bengali Hindus: are you MAD or simply ignorant? ask ANY one with a modicum of knowledge on the matter – Assamese have opposed Bengalis for many decades now. To understand why, you need to either as a native or read-up.
Yes, the was started by them, it should be our job to finish. Revenge must be taken for the killings by two ME based devil faiths.
Somewhere a mental asylum is missing an inmate by name Rajvir Singh.
Hindutva is the curse of India, you are right.
@ rajvir
It is foreign funded jihadi-green virus and xian mafia who are the curse in India, Hindutva is soul of India to fight the two demons you xian stooge @Anon
Brilliant article with insightful take on the contentious issues. Ideally, RSS or BJP thinkers should have done this sort of analysis to counter attacks from likes of Shashi! The article needs to be studied and widely discussed. In fact, this article provides a basis for a formal ‘religious group’ to be called ‘Hindutva’ ! (Political) Hinduism, as understood by Shashi, will be for the sickulars!!
Exactly they hate Hindutva because it eliminates the caste diversity used to exploit Hindus which was created by Brits through 1872 caste census and their political stooge AO Hume’s Indian National Congress. It creates single Hindu entity which they fear will to ending of their Muslim or xian politics.
Great article, all Hi dus should read it and understand it properly.
Great Article, hope thugs like Ashok read it. Hindutva is the crux of India and two major Abrahamic religions are our enemy.
Only in the land of the blind and foolish would Ashok be a thug and Rajvir a scholar. In reality Rajvir is the scum of the earth.
are you honestly unaware of hindutvas deep connections to the christian right?
Exactly. The RSS was NOT a product of traditional Hindu values; it was completely based off the Italian Fascists. But this is NEVER disclosed, because that would make the RSS’s garbage ideology nothing different from the people they so love to diss : Sonia, Rahul and Priyanka Gandhi. RSS only believes in becoming an Indian version of the Schutzstaffel (SS), or the Sturmabteilung (SA) – two organizations whose names have become infamous in the annals of world history, for all the evils they committed.