Jignesh:
1. Please educate yourself that raising ‘material issues” does not make one a communist stooge in Ambedkarite politics, a simplistic version probably because you are not aware nor privy to the history of struggles in Maharashtra makes you think it is that.
2. You are miseducated and have no idea of the painful histories of ambedkarites and communists in Maharashtra, your political aspirations which are fine (you say you are a communists, independent candidate but also supported by congress– this is always the character of india’s left) how can they accuse RPI of idealogical lack when they have themselves been Congress supporters–who Baba Saheb clearly said was a shetji-bhatji party, then our communism what happens to it. To be a good dalit communist in india you do not have to hate the middle class, or for that matter dalits who heavily stress on identity politics. go and learn something, air is in your head and you have too many upper caste comrades around you… essentially your crisis is that every dalit communist has faced– i these days call it as the – “red-blue syndrome”
Too many upper caste around you ? Is that as bad has having “too many Dalits” around you ? Breathtakingly vulgar racism from Dalit fanatics.
Mark my words, this sort of Dalit “mentality” with its militant madness borne out of Communist ideological bankruptcy will produce only violence and conflict from the upper castes. Already, people like the Patels, the Kapus etc are mobilizing and questioning the lopsided Dalit affirmative actions. It won’t be long before more join the fold against you Dalit fanatics.
The crimes of the past cannot be balanced by your war and hatred against the people of today. Trying to do so will only reignite a system which is dying a natural death and produce a counter revolution .
FYI – Ambedkar despised Communists .
@RawTruth some of your points are right but this article is not about reservation so why mention it here. Guess what ? this means you are only looking for an opportunity to say what you have to say.
@Vitthal Actually my comment was on the nature of Dalit Politicians like Jignesh… These leaders will never allow nor address the real issues but keep beating behind the bush.
The way Reservation Policy and Dalit Leaders are taking, another 1000 years cannot uplift the Dalits. The leaders like Jignesh are the ones who have benefitted from the reservation Policy and he will ensure that only his progeny claims the reservation benefit in next 100 years.
To uplift all our Dalits brothers the benefit of reservation should be given only once and once taken the benefit that individual should become a General Category. A child of SC District magistrate has no right to compete with fellow SC whose father is still a peon. And if the child of SC District magistrate remains in the competition than the reservation policy extended till 1000 years will not uplift those who are still down trodden. These unscrupulous Dalit leaders will only play politics and never allow the caste system to vanish. How can caste system vanish or atrocities get vanish if people who are Dalits never become General Category?
The lethargy and laziness displayed by the dalit community to cultivate the lands gifted to them by the governments has culminated in present position. They have entrusted their lands for cultivation to other communities who are basically farmers and hard working in scorching heat. Now after so many years the real owners are only on paper and the cultivators have become possesors.
I know one family surnamed More & Gaikwad in my native district Palghar in Maharashtra who have entrusted their 3 acre land to an upper caste farmer. Now they want to sell this land but the law does not permit the sale. Why this family is not cultivating a good quality land?
2% government jobs, 98 % private jobs where no reservation apply.
Last 4 years, crimes increase against dalit or sc/st.
You dont get house or even room on rent/ property in good area if you are belong to sc/st communities. Its true please don’t hide n share because we want to make a good society.
Govt Jobs make up 80% of all jobs in India and pay pension, health insurance etc.
Last 4 years has seen the “counter-revolution” against Dalit Fanatics and Dalit Organizations who blame and abuse the upper castes. Abuse of the SC/ST atrocities act is now rampant that the SC itself has cautioned and watered down the law. Dalit groups increasingly resorting to violence like Bhim Army and others spreading poison against upper castes and attacking shops and properties of upper castes.
Boss – you don’t get a house on rent in good areas even if you are a brahmin bachelor or a Firangi white skinned ready to pay 1 lakh per month in a Jain veg-only apartment or colony. Don’t pretend your facing some great injustice – everybody is facing it in their own way and unlike your people they don’t have SC/ST act to threaten people or have reservation in colleges, jobs etc.
Why is Print obsessed with playing one icon against the other? How loaded is that headline? Mewani talks of picking Gaikwad over Kamble, and you conveniently compare Gaikwad with Ambedkar and declare Gaikwad could what Ambedkar couldnt! Very British, aren’t we here, now in dividing people. Also, noone there studied Dialectics? All ideas combine the best of contemporary thought, add, subtract, tweak, blend. Ideas don’t wholesale dump a thought / action. What’s this black and white demarcation of the Dalit movement, and clearly when Mevani isn’t saying that! Don’t be sensationalist. You ll get the hits, and every such mischief will chip at your respect
With agrarian distress and steadily reducing size of holdings, distribution of ” surplus ” land to poor Dalits is an idea whose time has passed. Members of dominant land owning castes are agitating for reservations in education and public employment. The priceless legacy of affirmative action Dr Babsaheb Ambedkar created for Dalits and Adivasis has stood the test of time, although, given the number of claimants in relation to what is available, it has left many unbenefited. The causes Shri Jignesh Mevani is fighting for resonate beyond his home state. May he succeed.
Jignesh:
1. Please educate yourself that raising ‘material issues” does not make one a communist stooge in Ambedkarite politics, a simplistic version probably because you are not aware nor privy to the history of struggles in Maharashtra makes you think it is that.
2. You are miseducated and have no idea of the painful histories of ambedkarites and communists in Maharashtra, your political aspirations which are fine (you say you are a communists, independent candidate but also supported by congress– this is always the character of india’s left) how can they accuse RPI of idealogical lack when they have themselves been Congress supporters–who Baba Saheb clearly said was a shetji-bhatji party, then our communism what happens to it. To be a good dalit communist in india you do not have to hate the middle class, or for that matter dalits who heavily stress on identity politics. go and learn something, air is in your head and you have too many upper caste comrades around you… essentially your crisis is that every dalit communist has faced– i these days call it as the – “red-blue syndrome”
Jai Bhim!Lal Salaam!
Too many upper caste around you ? Is that as bad has having “too many Dalits” around you ? Breathtakingly vulgar racism from Dalit fanatics.
Mark my words, this sort of Dalit “mentality” with its militant madness borne out of Communist ideological bankruptcy will produce only violence and conflict from the upper castes. Already, people like the Patels, the Kapus etc are mobilizing and questioning the lopsided Dalit affirmative actions. It won’t be long before more join the fold against you Dalit fanatics.
The crimes of the past cannot be balanced by your war and hatred against the people of today. Trying to do so will only reignite a system which is dying a natural death and produce a counter revolution .
FYI – Ambedkar despised Communists .
@RawTruth some of your points are right but this article is not about reservation so why mention it here. Guess what ? this means you are only looking for an opportunity to say what you have to say.
@Vitthal Actually my comment was on the nature of Dalit Politicians like Jignesh… These leaders will never allow nor address the real issues but keep beating behind the bush.
The way Reservation Policy and Dalit Leaders are taking, another 1000 years cannot uplift the Dalits. The leaders like Jignesh are the ones who have benefitted from the reservation Policy and he will ensure that only his progeny claims the reservation benefit in next 100 years.
To uplift all our Dalits brothers the benefit of reservation should be given only once and once taken the benefit that individual should become a General Category. A child of SC District magistrate has no right to compete with fellow SC whose father is still a peon. And if the child of SC District magistrate remains in the competition than the reservation policy extended till 1000 years will not uplift those who are still down trodden. These unscrupulous Dalit leaders will only play politics and never allow the caste system to vanish. How can caste system vanish or atrocities get vanish if people who are Dalits never become General Category?
The lethargy and laziness displayed by the dalit community to cultivate the lands gifted to them by the governments has culminated in present position. They have entrusted their lands for cultivation to other communities who are basically farmers and hard working in scorching heat. Now after so many years the real owners are only on paper and the cultivators have become possesors.
I know one family surnamed More & Gaikwad in my native district Palghar in Maharashtra who have entrusted their 3 acre land to an upper caste farmer. Now they want to sell this land but the law does not permit the sale. Why this family is not cultivating a good quality land?
2% government jobs, 98 % private jobs where no reservation apply.
Last 4 years, crimes increase against dalit or sc/st.
You dont get house or even room on rent/ property in good area if you are belong to sc/st communities. Its true please don’t hide n share because we want to make a good society.
Govt Jobs make up 80% of all jobs in India and pay pension, health insurance etc.
Last 4 years has seen the “counter-revolution” against Dalit Fanatics and Dalit Organizations who blame and abuse the upper castes. Abuse of the SC/ST atrocities act is now rampant that the SC itself has cautioned and watered down the law. Dalit groups increasingly resorting to violence like Bhim Army and others spreading poison against upper castes and attacking shops and properties of upper castes.
Boss – you don’t get a house on rent in good areas even if you are a brahmin bachelor or a Firangi white skinned ready to pay 1 lakh per month in a Jain veg-only apartment or colony. Don’t pretend your facing some great injustice – everybody is facing it in their own way and unlike your people they don’t have SC/ST act to threaten people or have reservation in colleges, jobs etc.
Why is Print obsessed with playing one icon against the other? How loaded is that headline? Mewani talks of picking Gaikwad over Kamble, and you conveniently compare Gaikwad with Ambedkar and declare Gaikwad could what Ambedkar couldnt! Very British, aren’t we here, now in dividing people. Also, noone there studied Dialectics? All ideas combine the best of contemporary thought, add, subtract, tweak, blend. Ideas don’t wholesale dump a thought / action. What’s this black and white demarcation of the Dalit movement, and clearly when Mevani isn’t saying that! Don’t be sensationalist. You ll get the hits, and every such mischief will chip at your respect
Bcz its Print
With agrarian distress and steadily reducing size of holdings, distribution of ” surplus ” land to poor Dalits is an idea whose time has passed. Members of dominant land owning castes are agitating for reservations in education and public employment. The priceless legacy of affirmative action Dr Babsaheb Ambedkar created for Dalits and Adivasis has stood the test of time, although, given the number of claimants in relation to what is available, it has left many unbenefited. The causes Shri Jignesh Mevani is fighting for resonate beyond his home state. May he succeed.