Pakistan’s brash map-making, bereft as it is of any historical buttress, may just have given India an edge on its claims over Gilgit-Baltistan. Let the talks begin.
A serious threat may lead to Beijing hitting the pause button on territorial expansion, but in the long run the slow decadal expansionism will not cease.
In episode 464 of #CutTheClutter, Shekhar Gupta looks at the tactical and strategic moves the Modi govt has been using to respond to Pakistan over Jammu & Kashmir.
IMD director general Mrutyunjay Mohapatra has said forecasts for Gilgit-Baltistan and Muzaffarabad will now be a part of readings issued by their regional centre for J&K subdivision.
Mini deal will likely see no cut in 10% baseline tariff on Indian exports announced by Trump on 2 April, it is learnt, but additional 26% tariffs are set to be reduced.
The Chinese are said to have hired ex-fighter pilots & air force operators from NATO countries over the past several years to help them fine-tune their operational & flying capabilities.
Public, loud, upfront, filled with impropriety and high praise sometimes laced with insults. This is what we call Trumplomacy. But the larger objective is the same: American supremacy.
Get majority in Rajya Sabah and pass right to religious places basis significance and historical facts
Get Common Civil Code and Population Control law passed.
Enforce NRC and kick out pests
Plan civilization backup considering nuclear war is round the corner…specially with a failed state like Pakistan as neighbor…
Take country in confidence and enforce survival of fittest with people opting to deposit savings with the government for life after war and who ever survives as nominee.
Keep idea of finishing Pakistan for once even if it means beginning again from scratch..
Initiate Operation Gun Point…
Test by shooting nukes at nuclear testing sites of these countries to send a firm message…
Take first step and Attack POK with full force with nukes as the only option if Pakistan and China attack, which knowing Pakis they wont and if they do just finish everything off…
In the process 1.3 billion may not survive…few will but there is no fun in living with problems like Rahul Gandhi-Mamta Banerjee and a million pests…
With back ups planned a new beginning is possible without a idiot neighbor in Pakistan
And cowardly Hindus like you will be living safely in America ?
None of what you say will happen. Hindus can fight in a mob in India against minorities. We saw Hindu performance at the LAC. There was cowardice written all over.
Khtari – Hope what you were thinking was a joke. If you are a teenager or a young man it’s understandable if you were excited about these ideas.
If you are a mature adult, and really meant this, then I’d suggest you to see a psychiatrist!
Sir, May I humbly suggest
Our political leadership should
Defend Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh first before dreaming and fantasizing about more territory. Talk is easy while people in our armed forces face the extreme cold and altitude.
Ensure Indian Kashmiris trust the Indian Republic before dreaming about Pak occupied Kashmir. Bring peace in our Kashmir without needing presence of our military forces there…bring back Pandits there and let Pandits and Muslims live harmoniously.
Ensure poverty and illiteracy is eliminated in our country and we have productively employed all of our people. Collect enough taxes, maintain roads without potholes, clean drinking water for all, stop overflow of sewage drains and flooding, build good healthcare systems that public can be satisfied with… Ensure our justice system quickly disposes of court cases…Obviously you can’t achieve this and remain in power. Instead divert attention of public with fantasies and remain in power.
Hindus do not know how to rule what they have, They will break up the India that remains dreaming of a Hindu revival.
Sir, May I humbly suggest
Our political leadership should
Defend Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh first before dreaming and fantasizing about more territory. Talk is easy while people in our armed forces face the extreme cold and altitude.
Ensure Indian Kashmiris trust the Indian Republic before dreaming about Pak occupied Kashmir. Bring back peace in our Kashmir without such a large deployment of our forces there…
Ensure poverty and illiteracy is eliminated in our country and we have productively employed all of our people. Collect enough taxes, maintain roads without potholes, clean drinking water for all, stop overflow of sewage drains and flooding, build good healthcare systems that public can be satisfied with… Ensure our justice system quickly disposes of court cases…Obviously you can’t do this and remain in power. Instead divert attention of public with fantasies and remain in power.
Chari is right in saying that any further disputes such as for Kashi Vishawanath and Mathura should not be politicized but should be settled amicable between the communities or through court of law based on historical records and evidence, in line with the ratio of SC judgement in Ram Mandir case.
As regards UCC, the government must propose a draft bill for it to be discussed widely and then help form a consensus. It should be seen as fulfillment of Directive Principle and SC observations in earlier cases rather than a political objective. This can be before 2024.
As regards PoK, government has to take a call after considering various ramifications and no specific time line can be laid down for it. However, domestic political consensus on this issue must be arrived at soon by passing another resolution in Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha on the way forward.
However, Modi must now focus majorly on the economy as fundamental structural reforms will finally bury the Nehru Indira disastrous economic model and policies for a resurgent and confident India by 2030. In fact, that will be Modi’s true and lasting legacy. .
Modi does not know what to do with the economy. He took a growing economy under MMS and reduced it to a shambles. Covid finished it off. China is going to force India to spend money it cannot afford on defence. There are limitations to Hindu day dreaming.
What is Modi’s and it’s supporters are upto?
and what is this -. Ayodhya is the beginning of a new Hindu renaissance movement ? Did the writer understand real meaning of renaissance ? and did he know, what renaissance period had done to Europe and entire world? During and after renaissance humanity (not any particular religion) moved ahead, knowledge and wisdom expand and that too with out shedding a drop of blood…Wherein Ayodhya and entire Ram janmabhoomi movement has bloodstains on it’s cloths.
Since 2014, under the guise of correcting historical wrong Modi sarkar is in constant fire fighting mode, intimidating various sections of the society, and now eying for PoK, assuming Kashi, Mathura liberation will be without any agitation…what does all this means…???
How long will this opium last?
It’s true that, opposition parties are on their knees, but this doesn’t mean you are entitles to dismantle democratic structure of this country. As compare to other political parties Modi and BJP are way ahead to fit in their political, cultural agenda in the constitutional framework, but how long this smartness last? To wiped out previous legacy and to become taller than Nehru, Indira and all, the chosen path will leads to devastation of republic. personal over ambition and hatred for Nehru may firm the grip, but in doing so democracy will be dead. For sure. For marginalized democracy means a lot…For sure.
Any effort to change the territorial status quo in Kashmir will lead to a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan. 2. After the apex court verdict on Ayodhya, a very senior functionary from the Sangh had said that Kashi and Mathura were now closed chapters. May statesmanship prevail.
If the whole farce wasn’t so tragic, I’d have laughed!
The problem with the BJP is that they always put religion over the nation. This article is just the perfect micro-example of that. India has been mentioned 3 times, while ‘Hindu(ism)’ has been mentioned 4 times as much – 12 times. The largeness of Hinduism is that it will allow all religions to flourish equally, which will help India bloom..The smallness of Hindutva is that it won’t, just so the lotus will bloom. I mean, just look at Turkey.. What else is PM Modi but a ‘Hindu-Erdogan’?!!
There are so many other pillars that the nation is lacking.. Do you really need to stoop so low?! Do you really need to create more issues when one has been solved?! Sorry, you’re right.. Hindutva needs to bring up such issues to the fore so that the BJP can survive their epic mismanagement of everything from the economy, to foreign policy and national security.
Finally, let me remind you of the Hindu belief of Karma.. for example, as it just happened to L K Advani!! Forget personal aspects, but let’s think about the nation.. like Xinjiang and Hong Kong are biting China, Kashmir will bite us too. We can never be a world leader as long as they are incarcerated like this. And why on earth would you want PoK?! To terrorise them also under the threat of the gun?! To ban the internet there too?! It’s amply clear from ex-LG Murmu’s statement that banning 4G is just to drive the Kashmiris economically to the ground. The one half we have cannot be managed properly, why double the problem? Oh yeah, I forgot, it’ll help your domestic, Hindutva politics. When the people are dying of economic distress, illness and hunger, you’ll get the Arnabs to shout and distract them with the demonising of an entire population for the faults of a few. First, man up and get back the kilometers that China encroached upon.. then start fantasisng!
And since you mentioned UCC, let me remind you of the other UCC required in Hinduism too – the Uniform Caste Code. How about criminalizing the caste system?! If you have the guts to do that, it might be the real Hindu renaissance and unity that you can’t see even though it is in front of you!
I was disappointed to read your views on this matter, the constitution of India has been compromised and institutions that were set to protect it are caving in to facism. It’s a pity you are unable to understand this. But I assure you future will look back and count you as a pen that ushered facism into India
Chari is an RSS man. Nehru correctly said the RSS is fascism, Hindu style. That is why they hate him.
I would inform this mouthpiece of BJP that in 1992 or so, PV Narasimha Rao’s government enacted a law for preservation of places of worship, in which the status of a place of worship as on 15.8.1947 will be protected by law. Since Gyanvapi Mosque of Varanasi and the Mosque next to Krishna Janm Sthan were mosques as on the date of independence, their status cannot be changed by the Government or courts, UNLESS the Muslim community generously decides to handover these sites to Hindus for an alternative site as was done in Ayodhya case.
The author is in the throes of euphoria. He is confusing sectarian victories with military ones.
It is a different thing altogether to march on POK in rugged terrain with China defending the CPEC , compared to browbeating minorities for religious land. What he suggests would invite extreme actions from China and as a seasoned analyst he knows what that means.
You must be rejoicing. Afterall modi’s failure to protect India will be boon to you.
You must be happy . .
Afterall modi’s failure to protect India will be boon to you.
So you admit Modi’s failure ? And still you have great expectations that he will bring boon to Hindus ?
Aren’t you happy about that?
Modi is failing . Beautiful no?
Ayy-wooooosh!! that’s the sound of all the gas going out of your master’s 56-inches, along with the tail going between the legs! It must hurt, no?!!
We are not so much bothered about Modi winning or losing, as much as we are upset that our land has been taken, and the PM is acting nothing has happened.
Apt observation! Instead of getting back our land, they’re pretending that China never took anything at all.. why else will they take down a defence report that stated the real facts! At least our Army is brave, unlike our politicians, who have started their next polarising agenda, even before the flames of one has died down!!
The Indian Army gave them a prasad of 40+ dead PLA troops too ,don’t forget that,You may oppose the politics of the present govt but don’t doubt the integrity of the Indian Army
What is the source of that information ?
The fact is the land is lost for good. So what is this Hindu renaissance ?
After Ayodhya, RSS-BJP needs something else to ignite the public.
Throw fantasies to the public like taking back Aksai Chin, Gilgit-Baltistan and PoK !
Let the government defend Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh first…Talk is easy for our politicians to remain in power while our armed forces face the extreme cold and attitude..
Step by Step
Get majority in Rajya Sabah and pass right to religious places basis significance and historical facts
Get Common Civil Code and Population Control law passed.
Enforce NRC and kick out pests
Plan civilization backup considering nuclear war is round the corner…specially with a failed state like Pakistan as neighbor…
Take country in confidence and enforce survival of fittest with people opting to deposit savings with the government for life after war and who ever survives as nominee.
Keep idea of finishing Pakistan for once even if it means beginning again from scratch..
Initiate Operation Gun Point…
Test by shooting nukes at nuclear testing sites of these countries to send a firm message…
Take first step and Attack POK with full force with nukes as the only option if Pakistan and China attack, which knowing Pakis they wont and if they do just finish everything off…
In the process 1.3 billion may not survive…few will but there is no fun in living with problems like Rahul Gandhi-Mamta Banerjee and a million pests…
With back ups planned a new beginning is possible without a idiot neighbor in Pakistan
And cowardly Hindus like you will be living safely in America ?
None of what you say will happen. Hindus can fight in a mob in India against minorities. We saw Hindu performance at the LAC. There was cowardice written all over.
Khtari – Hope what you were thinking was a joke. If you are a teenager or a young man it’s understandable if you were excited about these ideas.
If you are a mature adult, and really meant this, then I’d suggest you to see a psychiatrist!
Sir, May I humbly suggest
Our political leadership should
Defend Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh first before dreaming and fantasizing about more territory. Talk is easy while people in our armed forces face the extreme cold and altitude.
Ensure Indian Kashmiris trust the Indian Republic before dreaming about Pak occupied Kashmir. Bring peace in our Kashmir without needing presence of our military forces there…bring back Pandits there and let Pandits and Muslims live harmoniously.
Ensure poverty and illiteracy is eliminated in our country and we have productively employed all of our people. Collect enough taxes, maintain roads without potholes, clean drinking water for all, stop overflow of sewage drains and flooding, build good healthcare systems that public can be satisfied with… Ensure our justice system quickly disposes of court cases…Obviously you can’t achieve this and remain in power. Instead divert attention of public with fantasies and remain in power.
Hindus do not know how to rule what they have, They will break up the India that remains dreaming of a Hindu revival.
Sir, May I humbly suggest
Our political leadership should
Defend Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh first before dreaming and fantasizing about more territory. Talk is easy while people in our armed forces face the extreme cold and altitude.
Ensure Indian Kashmiris trust the Indian Republic before dreaming about Pak occupied Kashmir. Bring back peace in our Kashmir without such a large deployment of our forces there…
Ensure poverty and illiteracy is eliminated in our country and we have productively employed all of our people. Collect enough taxes, maintain roads without potholes, clean drinking water for all, stop overflow of sewage drains and flooding, build good healthcare systems that public can be satisfied with… Ensure our justice system quickly disposes of court cases…Obviously you can’t do this and remain in power. Instead divert attention of public with fantasies and remain in power.
Are you high on. Low cost weed.
India is going to be divided into 1000 pieces.
Chari is right in saying that any further disputes such as for Kashi Vishawanath and Mathura should not be politicized but should be settled amicable between the communities or through court of law based on historical records and evidence, in line with the ratio of SC judgement in Ram Mandir case.
As regards UCC, the government must propose a draft bill for it to be discussed widely and then help form a consensus. It should be seen as fulfillment of Directive Principle and SC observations in earlier cases rather than a political objective. This can be before 2024.
As regards PoK, government has to take a call after considering various ramifications and no specific time line can be laid down for it. However, domestic political consensus on this issue must be arrived at soon by passing another resolution in Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha on the way forward.
However, Modi must now focus majorly on the economy as fundamental structural reforms will finally bury the Nehru Indira disastrous economic model and policies for a resurgent and confident India by 2030. In fact, that will be Modi’s true and lasting legacy. .
Modi does not know what to do with the economy. He took a growing economy under MMS and reduced it to a shambles. Covid finished it off. China is going to force India to spend money it cannot afford on defence. There are limitations to Hindu day dreaming.
What is Modi’s and it’s supporters are upto?
and what is this -. Ayodhya is the beginning of a new Hindu renaissance movement ? Did the writer understand real meaning of renaissance ? and did he know, what renaissance period had done to Europe and entire world? During and after renaissance humanity (not any particular religion) moved ahead, knowledge and wisdom expand and that too with out shedding a drop of blood…Wherein Ayodhya and entire Ram janmabhoomi movement has bloodstains on it’s cloths.
Since 2014, under the guise of correcting historical wrong Modi sarkar is in constant fire fighting mode, intimidating various sections of the society, and now eying for PoK, assuming Kashi, Mathura liberation will be without any agitation…what does all this means…???
How long will this opium last?
It’s true that, opposition parties are on their knees, but this doesn’t mean you are entitles to dismantle democratic structure of this country. As compare to other political parties Modi and BJP are way ahead to fit in their political, cultural agenda in the constitutional framework, but how long this smartness last? To wiped out previous legacy and to become taller than Nehru, Indira and all, the chosen path will leads to devastation of republic. personal over ambition and hatred for Nehru may firm the grip, but in doing so democracy will be dead. For sure. For marginalized democracy means a lot…For sure.
Any effort to change the territorial status quo in Kashmir will lead to a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan. 2. After the apex court verdict on Ayodhya, a very senior functionary from the Sangh had said that Kashi and Mathura were now closed chapters. May statesmanship prevail.
You are Funded from outsiders…
Ayodhya to zhaaki hai ; kashi mathura baaki hai
If the whole farce wasn’t so tragic, I’d have laughed!
The problem with the BJP is that they always put religion over the nation. This article is just the perfect micro-example of that. India has been mentioned 3 times, while ‘Hindu(ism)’ has been mentioned 4 times as much – 12 times. The largeness of Hinduism is that it will allow all religions to flourish equally, which will help India bloom..The smallness of Hindutva is that it won’t, just so the lotus will bloom. I mean, just look at Turkey.. What else is PM Modi but a ‘Hindu-Erdogan’?!!
There are so many other pillars that the nation is lacking.. Do you really need to stoop so low?! Do you really need to create more issues when one has been solved?! Sorry, you’re right.. Hindutva needs to bring up such issues to the fore so that the BJP can survive their epic mismanagement of everything from the economy, to foreign policy and national security.
Finally, let me remind you of the Hindu belief of Karma.. for example, as it just happened to L K Advani!! Forget personal aspects, but let’s think about the nation.. like Xinjiang and Hong Kong are biting China, Kashmir will bite us too. We can never be a world leader as long as they are incarcerated like this. And why on earth would you want PoK?! To terrorise them also under the threat of the gun?! To ban the internet there too?! It’s amply clear from ex-LG Murmu’s statement that banning 4G is just to drive the Kashmiris economically to the ground. The one half we have cannot be managed properly, why double the problem? Oh yeah, I forgot, it’ll help your domestic, Hindutva politics. When the people are dying of economic distress, illness and hunger, you’ll get the Arnabs to shout and distract them with the demonising of an entire population for the faults of a few. First, man up and get back the kilometers that China encroached upon.. then start fantasisng!
And since you mentioned UCC, let me remind you of the other UCC required in Hinduism too – the Uniform Caste Code. How about criminalizing the caste system?! If you have the guts to do that, it might be the real Hindu renaissance and unity that you can’t see even though it is in front of you!
I was disappointed to read your views on this matter, the constitution of India has been compromised and institutions that were set to protect it are caving in to facism. It’s a pity you are unable to understand this. But I assure you future will look back and count you as a pen that ushered facism into India
Chari is an RSS man. Nehru correctly said the RSS is fascism, Hindu style. That is why they hate him.
I would inform this mouthpiece of BJP that in 1992 or so, PV Narasimha Rao’s government enacted a law for preservation of places of worship, in which the status of a place of worship as on 15.8.1947 will be protected by law. Since Gyanvapi Mosque of Varanasi and the Mosque next to Krishna Janm Sthan were mosques as on the date of independence, their status cannot be changed by the Government or courts, UNLESS the Muslim community generously decides to handover these sites to Hindus for an alternative site as was done in Ayodhya case.
The author is in the throes of euphoria. He is confusing sectarian victories with military ones.
It is a different thing altogether to march on POK in rugged terrain with China defending the CPEC , compared to browbeating minorities for religious land. What he suggests would invite extreme actions from China and as a seasoned analyst he knows what that means.
This bhoomi poojan China was in Depsang. The real worry is that at the next bhoomi poojan it might be in Leh
You must be rejoicing. Afterall modi’s failure to protect India will be boon to you.
You must be happy . .
Afterall modi’s failure to protect India will be boon to you.
So you admit Modi’s failure ? And still you have great expectations that he will bring boon to Hindus ?
Aren’t you happy about that?
Modi is failing . Beautiful no?
Ayy-wooooosh!! that’s the sound of all the gas going out of your master’s 56-inches, along with the tail going between the legs! It must hurt, no?!!
We are not so much bothered about Modi winning or losing, as much as we are upset that our land has been taken, and the PM is acting nothing has happened.
Apt observation! Instead of getting back our land, they’re pretending that China never took anything at all.. why else will they take down a defence report that stated the real facts! At least our Army is brave, unlike our politicians, who have started their next polarising agenda, even before the flames of one has died down!!
The Indian Army gave them a prasad of 40+ dead PLA troops too ,don’t forget that,You may oppose the politics of the present govt but don’t doubt the integrity of the Indian Army
What is the source of that information ?
The fact is the land is lost for good. So what is this Hindu renaissance ?
After Ayodhya, RSS-BJP needs something else to ignite the public.
Throw fantasies to the public like taking back Aksai Chin, Gilgit-Baltistan and PoK !
Let the government defend Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh first…Talk is easy for our politicians to remain in power while our armed forces face the extreme cold and attitude..