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I reckon that the reason most Indians do not want dual citizenship to be given; is due to sheer jealousy.
As an NRI born in India but have UK citizenship for 46yrs find that now I live in India for part of the year; this present BJP Govt want the NRI money and investment but not for them to stay more than 4mths in a financial year.
It is an utterly stupid rule brought in by the present finance minister recently; explaining that very rich expats use this stay in India to avoid paying taxes in any country.
They could easily catch this very small individuals without making it difficult for other OCI card holders to shorten their yearly stay in India with their elderly parents.
BJP Govt is a small minded group and going backwards with the Manmohan Singh’s economic revival and opening India to the outside world.
Dual citizen should not allow to contest any election and key positions in the system. I don’t think they will be loyal to country. BTW the article is stating the Pakistani tone.
Dual citizen should not allow to contest any election and key positions in the system. I don’t think they will be loyal to country. BTW the article is stating the Pakistani tone.
There are pro’s and cons of everything. Some commenters here think they are more smarter than leaders of most developed nations in the world that allow dual citizenship. If you are allowing OCI what harm will it do to allow citizenship. Do you think Indian want to be loyal to other countries then their own. You are killing lot of benefits it will bring including driving away foreign investments in the country being too protective on things that are not necessary. World is moving towards globalization but you want to be north korea
Being an NRI myself, I completely agree with the article. I am in Canada, and although eligible for Canadian citizenship for the past 9 years now, I am hopefully waiting India to allow dual citizenship. It is very difficult to give up citizenship of a country you were born and raised in. But for practical reasons it makes sense to take citizenship of countries with stronger passports. Most Canadians who immigrated to Canada have dual citizenship, and when I tell them that I am not a Canadian citizen because india doesn’t allow dual citizenship, they seem really baffled. I see Indians here who are Canadian citizens now, and they hold on to their cultural and traditional values stronger than Indians in India. I am not trying to compare, all I am trying to say that you don’t love or respect your nation any less just because you are abroad. If anything, when not in your homeland you miss her and value her even more. So, not sure what’s the value in taking citizenship away from those who were born in India and live somewhere else. India is a very strong nation and emerging economic power. All eyes are upon us. Its time we start acting like a big global nation.
I think if you feel so much, why settling in Canada then ???
The same reason why you want to develop in life and not stay in the same place you were. And more importantly, its her life, her choice.
Necause of the system, in india there is no value of life and government socks, poor indians getting movked by government.
Here are rules and value of life of human is more than anything else.
And life is much better here and secure
LOL, I have been in Canada for almost 10 years now. This is complete BS. Canada only allows qualified individuals with unique skill sets to enter Canada. Hence, to say “this country has value of human life..blah blah” is stupid. Its population is half of my state (Gujarat) and still has problems like the third world.
Not that I do not like Canada but yeah, India is unique and the government must allow dual citizenship so that we can go and vote for our darling Narendra Modi ji <3
Jai Hind
I was here to understand the benefits and potential ease of Indian dual citizenship. Instead, I came across a prejudiced article bashing nationalism.
There is no need to allow dual citizenship, OCI card is good enough . Citizenship of any or most countries require swearing an oath of loyalty to that country OVER any other country. Dual citizenship can mean dual loyalty, any naturalized citizen of USA cannot become President for possible dual loyalty reason even today. As for people talking about being ‘Global Citizens’ etc.. I ask them to show a passport that says they are ‘Global Citizens’
OCi holders are treated as third class citizens in India because they are not a vote bank. The politicians in India are scare to grant dual citizenship because they do not want bright minds running the Nations. The current political party bjp is instilling fear, hatred, injustice among it’s citizens. Shame!
Pakistan has dual citizenship and all their politicians already have built their safe havens abroad and know that they can escape with their loot. No, we don’t need to have dual citizenship.
The truly patriotic Indians can come back to India renouncing their citizenship if they truly want to make a difference. Agreed the bureaucracy is painful but dual citizenship presents more harms than pros.
For enhancing transparency and understanding conflict of interest, if any, it is reasonable to expect that every columnist/reporter/editor disclose his/her current citizenship status at the end of their write up/article
Shivam has indeed a wonderful and creative mind, He has knack of writing articles on topics which are nowhere relevant to the current context. This is one of them. There are a few countries which allows dual citizenship but when one has OCI card, there is really nothing that the Indian origin and now a foreign national is missing in India. He can travel all over the world on his adopted country’s passport and have full freedom to come to India and do anything except vote and own agriculture (other than inherited one). In this context, we do not need dual citizenship, But what we actually need is the facilities to vote in national and state elections for the NRIs when they are abroad. Many countries have such facility for their citizens abroad and it is time India should do this, however complicated it is. Incidentally, iIt is a matter of grave concern that Shivam has not uttered Modi word even once in this article!
Mr Vij, it’s not only how many countries give a visa-free entry to the country that encourages people to surrender their Indian passport and take up the nationality of another country. When you become a citizen of another nation you get a pledge from that country that you will get value for the taxes you pay, be it in terms of health care, safety, law and order, equal opportunity, education and equality before law. One does not have to plead before bureaucrats or politicians for services which are rightfully ours. It will take a quantum leap for India to achieve this level-certainly not at the present time.
Rahulji rejected the idea of dual citizenship. He is keeping only Indian citizen ship. He canntake Italian passport as a right since his mother Matron Soniajiwas Italian at the time of his birth. Priyankaji has the right to hold British and Italian passports. But they reject that concept as they want to do Seva to India. This is on contrast to the author who looks like is trying to take foreign citizenship .
What is the advantage that India will have by giving dual citizenship; to claim Abhijit Banerjee as one of our own? The security situation in our country is very different from those countries whose examples are being cited. Pakistan is an exporter of terrorism. Canadian politicians feels that the country requires immigrants, till its citizens revolt against it, as is happening in Europe. OCI card gives a person all rights that are generally required.
I agree OCI is good enough, but oddly enough Modi govt had made it difficult to obtain OCI, than the previous admin. The paperwork should be made easier most of this should be done online, without physical copies.
Though I am opposed to this communal government if they are making it hard for the other people to get OCI that move has our full support. But looks like you are not saying the truth as my friends are saying that OCI process has been simplified and they are getting it very quickly.
!! Asatyam Shivam Sadaa Sandesham !!
Did you really read this article by Shivam We…zzzzz? Moreover, took it seriously and commented on it?
Shivam We…zzzzz is a master of irrelevent/absurd headlines, topics and in fact a page-filler writer of ThePrint.
I reckon that the reason most Indians do not want dual citizenship to be given; is due to sheer jealousy.
As an NRI born in India but have UK citizenship for 46yrs find that now I live in India for part of the year; this present BJP Govt want the NRI money and investment but not for them to stay more than 4mths in a financial year.
It is an utterly stupid rule brought in by the present finance minister recently; explaining that very rich expats use this stay in India to avoid paying taxes in any country.
They could easily catch this very small individuals without making it difficult for other OCI card holders to shorten their yearly stay in India with their elderly parents.
BJP Govt is a small minded group and going backwards with the Manmohan Singh’s economic revival and opening India to the outside world.
Dual citizen should not allow to contest any election and key positions in the system. I don’t think they will be loyal to country. BTW the article is stating the Pakistani tone.
how hard do you want to get slapped on the face?
Dual citizen should not allow to contest any election and key positions in the system. I don’t think they will be loyal to country. BTW the article is stating the Pakistani tone.
There are pro’s and cons of everything. Some commenters here think they are more smarter than leaders of most developed nations in the world that allow dual citizenship. If you are allowing OCI what harm will it do to allow citizenship. Do you think Indian want to be loyal to other countries then their own. You are killing lot of benefits it will bring including driving away foreign investments in the country being too protective on things that are not necessary. World is moving towards globalization but you want to be north korea
Being an NRI myself, I completely agree with the article. I am in Canada, and although eligible for Canadian citizenship for the past 9 years now, I am hopefully waiting India to allow dual citizenship. It is very difficult to give up citizenship of a country you were born and raised in. But for practical reasons it makes sense to take citizenship of countries with stronger passports. Most Canadians who immigrated to Canada have dual citizenship, and when I tell them that I am not a Canadian citizen because india doesn’t allow dual citizenship, they seem really baffled. I see Indians here who are Canadian citizens now, and they hold on to their cultural and traditional values stronger than Indians in India. I am not trying to compare, all I am trying to say that you don’t love or respect your nation any less just because you are abroad. If anything, when not in your homeland you miss her and value her even more. So, not sure what’s the value in taking citizenship away from those who were born in India and live somewhere else. India is a very strong nation and emerging economic power. All eyes are upon us. Its time we start acting like a big global nation.
I think if you feel so much, why settling in Canada then ???
The same reason why you want to develop in life and not stay in the same place you were. And more importantly, its her life, her choice.
Necause of the system, in india there is no value of life and government socks, poor indians getting movked by government.
Here are rules and value of life of human is more than anything else.
And life is much better here and secure
LOL, I have been in Canada for almost 10 years now. This is complete BS. Canada only allows qualified individuals with unique skill sets to enter Canada. Hence, to say “this country has value of human life..blah blah” is stupid. Its population is half of my state (Gujarat) and still has problems like the third world.
Not that I do not like Canada but yeah, India is unique and the government must allow dual citizenship so that we can go and vote for our darling Narendra Modi ji <3
Jai Hind
I was here to understand the benefits and potential ease of Indian dual citizenship. Instead, I came across a prejudiced article bashing nationalism.
There is no need to allow dual citizenship, OCI card is good enough . Citizenship of any or most countries require swearing an oath of loyalty to that country OVER any other country. Dual citizenship can mean dual loyalty, any naturalized citizen of USA cannot become President for possible dual loyalty reason even today. As for people talking about being ‘Global Citizens’ etc.. I ask them to show a passport that says they are ‘Global Citizens’
OCi holders are treated as third class citizens in India because they are not a vote bank. The politicians in India are scare to grant dual citizenship because they do not want bright minds running the Nations. The current political party bjp is instilling fear, hatred, injustice among it’s citizens. Shame!
Pakistan has dual citizenship and all their politicians already have built their safe havens abroad and know that they can escape with their loot. No, we don’t need to have dual citizenship.
The truly patriotic Indians can come back to India renouncing their citizenship if they truly want to make a difference. Agreed the bureaucracy is painful but dual citizenship presents more harms than pros.
When one country leader is stupid and the other is great, it is hard to be sad or glad.
Our leaders will have to think of what the people want. If dual citizenship is possible in other countries then it is possible here too.
No anti-Modi stuff today? What happened, Shivam?
For enhancing transparency and understanding conflict of interest, if any, it is reasonable to expect that every columnist/reporter/editor disclose his/her current citizenship status at the end of their write up/article
My personal opinion is that india has faced lots of problem from foreigners especially British in providing dual citizen ship the history repeats
Empty mind is devil’s den.
Shivam has indeed a wonderful and creative mind, He has knack of writing articles on topics which are nowhere relevant to the current context. This is one of them. There are a few countries which allows dual citizenship but when one has OCI card, there is really nothing that the Indian origin and now a foreign national is missing in India. He can travel all over the world on his adopted country’s passport and have full freedom to come to India and do anything except vote and own agriculture (other than inherited one). In this context, we do not need dual citizenship, But what we actually need is the facilities to vote in national and state elections for the NRIs when they are abroad. Many countries have such facility for their citizens abroad and it is time India should do this, however complicated it is. Incidentally, iIt is a matter of grave concern that Shivam has not uttered Modi word even once in this article!
Mr Vij, it’s not only how many countries give a visa-free entry to the country that encourages people to surrender their Indian passport and take up the nationality of another country. When you become a citizen of another nation you get a pledge from that country that you will get value for the taxes you pay, be it in terms of health care, safety, law and order, equal opportunity, education and equality before law. One does not have to plead before bureaucrats or politicians for services which are rightfully ours. It will take a quantum leap for India to achieve this level-certainly not at the present time.
Rahulji rejected the idea of dual citizenship. He is keeping only Indian citizen ship. He canntake Italian passport as a right since his mother Matron Soniajiwas Italian at the time of his birth. Priyankaji has the right to hold British and Italian passports. But they reject that concept as they want to do Seva to India. This is on contrast to the author who looks like is trying to take foreign citizenship .
What is the advantage that India will have by giving dual citizenship; to claim Abhijit Banerjee as one of our own? The security situation in our country is very different from those countries whose examples are being cited. Pakistan is an exporter of terrorism. Canadian politicians feels that the country requires immigrants, till its citizens revolt against it, as is happening in Europe. OCI card gives a person all rights that are generally required.
I agree OCI is good enough, but oddly enough Modi govt had made it difficult to obtain OCI, than the previous admin. The paperwork should be made easier most of this should be done online, without physical copies.
Though I am opposed to this communal government if they are making it hard for the other people to get OCI that move has our full support. But looks like you are not saying the truth as my friends are saying that OCI process has been simplified and they are getting it very quickly.
!! Asatyam Shivam Sadaa Sandesham !!
Did you really read this article by Shivam We…zzzzz? Moreover, took it seriously and commented on it?
Shivam We…zzzzz is a master of irrelevent/absurd headlines, topics and in fact a page-filler writer of ThePrint.