Sundar and others were taken into custody when they attempted to proceed to Chidambaram to protest against VCK chief Thirumavalavan for his alleged remarks against women.
India is yet to see a movement against caste on the scale of Black Lives Matter, even though both racial and caste discrimination share the notion of inferior and superior.
RJD, once a prominent representative of Mandal politics, now finds itself in a political era where welfare, good governance, and new aspirations are overshadowing old caste equations.
Without a Congress revival, there can be no challenge to the BJP pan-nationally. Modi’s party is growing, and almost entirely at the cost of the Congress.
Many of these people like these Valavan to Vairamuthu talk all they want and abuse Hinduism/ Hindus/Hindu gods. I have never heard them talking like this against Holy/Unholy books of other religions. Why?
This a just a political trick that they play in South India to keep people confused and divided. Dravidian ideas is already over spent and used to the hilt, these people cannot innovate. They keep using the same formula and don’t see reality. That’s the bane of mediocre mind that Valavan is .
When he is seeking votes, he would use his community affiliation to the hilt, just a narrow minded guy with a reptilian brain, pissing around and fixing boundaries. These people never unite but only sow seeds of discontentment to reap electoral dividends.
This is exactly the politician a progressive and forward looking country should defeat.
I agree with the author completely on this issue. I am neither suvarna nor dalit and I believe that gives me a balanced perspective since I am also an atheist Hindu. We need to remove MANUSMRITI completely from Hindu tradition & teachings if we are to reform our religion before expecting other religions to reform and criticising them for not reforming.
There is a saying by a philosopher that ” Any law which is not fair is not a law.” Similarly, I would say any God or the religion in his name, who is not being fair is not a God/religion at all.
Hinduism is not a religion and doesn’t dictate any kind of belief system. As you mention one can be an atheist or agnostic Hindu. As for reformation how does one reform a practised creed that makes no demands or sets down any rules or commandments. Seriously how many people even know the Manusmriti in full, leave alone following it in their daily lives. Most people follow the crowd or existing social and cultural practices without much though, not as a command of Hinduism.
Well the smriti can be changed any time. That really should not be an issue. It is indeed surprising that modern day matadhipathi’s do not declare as much and abolish caste system or at least abolish discrimination.
“I recount these exchanges to underscore that Manusmriti is still alive and well in the minds of large sections of our society and ‘banning’ it is not going to banish bigotry from their minds.”
He quotes 2 examples and then claims that 2 examples equals the attitude of a large section of 800 million Hindus from Kashmir to Kanyakumari!
If any further proof of the dubious argument presented here is necessary, please look no further that this absurd “wisdom” of this clown who seeks to edify us with his “pure” mind free from all bigotry, except the hatred of Brahmins!
The absurdity continues with the laughable claim that there has been no change in “Hindutva” attitudes since generations despite the fact that today a Dalit is President and a Backward caste leader is the PM!
But then facts and so-called “progressives” never have to be acquainted! Only self-righteous pablum will suffice the self-advertised champion of the pretentious “Hindus4Humanrights” clown posse!
Ancient texts have to be interpreted, changed (if necessary) and adapted for the times.
On the contrary if ancient texts and holy scriptures were to be banned based on a couple of “offending” phrases in them, I suppose we will not have any scriptures or holy texts that will pass.
You see, change is the only constant.
It is not correct to say people still follow the manu smriti. If the smriti is wrong or retrograde, be it so – then why we have the constitution ? Manu smriti is the least of the problems india faces now ((if it is a problem at all). Jutifying dalit opression vai the manu smriti is absurd. The practices pointed out by the writer are blatantly unconstitutional. Can somenone show us, who among the so called Hindus, is carrying this manu smriti as their ideology or scripts ? It is safe to assume that 99% of the Hindus have not read this document and are suprised by the controversy. Thiruma, sees that his dalit centric politics is being usurped by the TN BJP leader, who also is a dalit. What is the necessity to bring to the fore this manu smriti issue at this jucnture – Thituma has nothing to lose, if at all he can consolidate the dalit votes thru this. Why is it that th major political parties – DMK, ADMK or Congress not tkaing the same stand as Thiruma ? They will not becuse this will alientate the major Hindus, and that too at the time of elections getting cloer. Can the writer answer this. I dont support manu smriti or any other scripture – we have laid down laws in this land and the constitution which we need to follow.
These days, ignorance reigns supreme. Knowedge in an anathema. The topic is a non-issue. People are getting beheaded for showing some cartoons because of religious bigotry. Here this writer is talking about an ancient book which is no longer followed. This writer ought to know that whole India, except Bengal follow Mitakshara, which is a commentary on Yajnavalkya Smriti. Manusmriti was rivived by William Jones in 18th century end, when he wanted to know Hindu Shastras and engaged some Pandits to write Hindu Law digest for him.
People like Mr. Raju Rajagopal are the ones who will defame, denigrate, vilify and demonize Hinduism for its various ills. And quite rightly so. The religion is indeed beset with issues and is awfully slow to reform.
However, him and others of his ilk will never utter a word on the “crisis” of Islam across the world – as quite prudently pointed out by the French President.
Because there are no such self righteous clowns in Islam who go around claiming they are “Mohammedans 4Humanrights” because Islam doesnt recognise Human rights!
Urban naxal and leftist liberals want to progate negative values of Indian alone abroad, Their netwoek used to be very active in feeding such information. Hindus are not fools anymore to lsiten to this anti hindu crowd. THis crowd is geting challenged abroad just like inIndia
Talk abut Upanishads and Bhagavad Gita why do you want to tlak one secitonof manu smriti, unles your intention is weaken and elimiante hinduism.
Talk about verses in Quran if you are truly seclar.
Many of these people like these Valavan to Vairamuthu talk all they want and abuse Hinduism/ Hindus/Hindu gods. I have never heard them talking like this against Holy/Unholy books of other religions. Why?
This a just a political trick that they play in South India to keep people confused and divided. Dravidian ideas is already over spent and used to the hilt, these people cannot innovate. They keep using the same formula and don’t see reality. That’s the bane of mediocre mind that Valavan is .
When he is seeking votes, he would use his community affiliation to the hilt, just a narrow minded guy with a reptilian brain, pissing around and fixing boundaries. These people never unite but only sow seeds of discontentment to reap electoral dividends.
This is exactly the politician a progressive and forward looking country should defeat.
I agree with the author completely on this issue. I am neither suvarna nor dalit and I believe that gives me a balanced perspective since I am also an atheist Hindu. We need to remove MANUSMRITI completely from Hindu tradition & teachings if we are to reform our religion before expecting other religions to reform and criticising them for not reforming.
There is a saying by a philosopher that ” Any law which is not fair is not a law.” Similarly, I would say any God or the religion in his name, who is not being fair is not a God/religion at all.
Hinduism is not a religion and doesn’t dictate any kind of belief system. As you mention one can be an atheist or agnostic Hindu. As for reformation how does one reform a practised creed that makes no demands or sets down any rules or commandments. Seriously how many people even know the Manusmriti in full, leave alone following it in their daily lives. Most people follow the crowd or existing social and cultural practices without much though, not as a command of Hinduism.
Well the smriti can be changed any time. That really should not be an issue. It is indeed surprising that modern day matadhipathi’s do not declare as much and abolish caste system or at least abolish discrimination.
“I recount these exchanges to underscore that Manusmriti is still alive and well in the minds of large sections of our society and ‘banning’ it is not going to banish bigotry from their minds.”
He quotes 2 examples and then claims that 2 examples equals the attitude of a large section of 800 million Hindus from Kashmir to Kanyakumari!
If any further proof of the dubious argument presented here is necessary, please look no further that this absurd “wisdom” of this clown who seeks to edify us with his “pure” mind free from all bigotry, except the hatred of Brahmins!
The absurdity continues with the laughable claim that there has been no change in “Hindutva” attitudes since generations despite the fact that today a Dalit is President and a Backward caste leader is the PM!
But then facts and so-called “progressives” never have to be acquainted! Only self-righteous pablum will suffice the self-advertised champion of the pretentious “Hindus4Humanrights” clown posse!
Ancient texts have to be interpreted, changed (if necessary) and adapted for the times.
On the contrary if ancient texts and holy scriptures were to be banned based on a couple of “offending” phrases in them, I suppose we will not have any scriptures or holy texts that will pass.
You see, change is the only constant.
Just as we hindus own Raju Rajagopal, Hinduism own ugly as well…………………Useless piece of article!
It is not correct to say people still follow the manu smriti. If the smriti is wrong or retrograde, be it so – then why we have the constitution ? Manu smriti is the least of the problems india faces now ((if it is a problem at all). Jutifying dalit opression vai the manu smriti is absurd. The practices pointed out by the writer are blatantly unconstitutional. Can somenone show us, who among the so called Hindus, is carrying this manu smriti as their ideology or scripts ? It is safe to assume that 99% of the Hindus have not read this document and are suprised by the controversy. Thiruma, sees that his dalit centric politics is being usurped by the TN BJP leader, who also is a dalit. What is the necessity to bring to the fore this manu smriti issue at this jucnture – Thituma has nothing to lose, if at all he can consolidate the dalit votes thru this. Why is it that th major political parties – DMK, ADMK or Congress not tkaing the same stand as Thiruma ? They will not becuse this will alientate the major Hindus, and that too at the time of elections getting cloer. Can the writer answer this. I dont support manu smriti or any other scripture – we have laid down laws in this land and the constitution which we need to follow.
These days, ignorance reigns supreme. Knowedge in an anathema. The topic is a non-issue. People are getting beheaded for showing some cartoons because of religious bigotry. Here this writer is talking about an ancient book which is no longer followed. This writer ought to know that whole India, except Bengal follow Mitakshara, which is a commentary on Yajnavalkya Smriti. Manusmriti was rivived by William Jones in 18th century end, when he wanted to know Hindu Shastras and engaged some Pandits to write Hindu Law digest for him.
Manusmriti cannot be criticised selectively. Quran should also criticised for it’s controversial verses.
People like Mr. Raju Rajagopal are the ones who will defame, denigrate, vilify and demonize Hinduism for its various ills. And quite rightly so. The religion is indeed beset with issues and is awfully slow to reform.
However, him and others of his ilk will never utter a word on the “crisis” of Islam across the world – as quite prudently pointed out by the French President.
Because there are no such self righteous clowns in Islam who go around claiming they are “Mohammedans 4Humanrights” because Islam doesnt recognise Human rights!
Urban naxal and leftist liberals want to progate negative values of Indian alone abroad, Their netwoek used to be very active in feeding such information. Hindus are not fools anymore to lsiten to this anti hindu crowd. THis crowd is geting challenged abroad just like inIndia
Talk abut Upanishads and Bhagavad Gita why do you want to tlak one secitonof manu smriti, unles your intention is weaken and elimiante hinduism.
Talk about verses in Quran if you are truly seclar.