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lol it Pakistan vs India in these comments. This article is labeled as an OPINION, this whole article may contain construed facts and thoughts but it is still considered opinion based. Considering that fact, ANCHORING BIAS will be present in these situations where someone is trying to incorporate some type of numerical data! So everyone in the comments trying to defend their country just think about how you are falling into the trap of BIAS. Learn to accept each other’s opinions and stop arguing over something that does not matter. Everybody knows Pakistan is better lol so no need to argue.
Nuclear deterrence does not work. This is plain and simple. Nuclear Deterrence works similar to the game of poker, giving bluff. Once that bluff is called, there is nothing to counter.
E.g. let’s say Pakistan threatens the use of tactical nuclear weapon and India calls its bluff and sends ten divisions of infantry supported by 2-3 mechanized divisions. What will Pakistan do? If Pakistan uses a tactical nuke and kills about fifty thousand soldiers, then all deals are off the table. India will retaliate so massively that Pakistan will end up with more than 10-15 million dead and the entire political + military leadership having no place to hide. In most likely case, an enraged India will bulldoze the country while the giant powers will watch passively since using nuclear weapons is the proverbial red line no one crosses. India will nab every single political and military leaders that it can lay its hands on, bring them back to India and hang them after a show trial. Those military or political leaders who will be able to evade capture will have no place to hide – Iran or Afghanistan will not shelter them, not even the Taliban.
India has won all 4 wars against Pak especially the Kargil war where 93000 pak soldiers + officials surrendered to india and in all 4 wars pak suffered way more loss and lost more men resources and even territory and paks dream of Kashmir is also not fullfilled yet 2/3 of Kashmir still is with india so they did not pass in their effort
India has won all 4 wars against Pak especially the Kargil war when 93000 pak surrendered to india in all 4 wars if u see pak suffered more loss than india, pak lost more men , more resources and even territory and pak dream of Kashmir is still not successful 2/ 3 of Kashmir lies with india
Pakistan never won any war against india.
There is four wars happen between india and Pakistan and india won all of them.
Pakistani people thinks that Pakistan won 1965 war .
But in 1965 war india lost 2,862 soliders
And Pakistan lost 5,800 soliders
India lost 97 tanks
And Pakistan lost 450 tanks.
If anyone don’t believe me so search on google
Pakistan never won any war against india.
There is four wars happen between india and Pakistan and india won all of them.
Pakistani people thinks that Pakistan won 1965 war ?
But in 1965 war india lost 2,862 soliders
And Pakistan lost 5,800 soliders ?
India lost 97 tanks??.
Pakistan lost 450 tanks?
India never won any war over Kashmir. Pakistan defeated India both in 1948, 1965 & 1999. India always starts war with Pakistan. When Pakistan gives befitting reply then India cry to UN. This has been the case every time.
bhai tumhe ye sab kisne padhaya your argument is correct but kirdar badal gaye ???
u lost majority of kashmir in 1948
u lost in 1965
u lost in 1971 (east pakistan
u lost siachin in 1984
u lost kargil in 1999
pakistan me iska ulta padhate hai kya lolz
I advice u to google that currently who controls all these territories
you are always loser india if we want we can destroy you in second
Abhinand sy pochu kesa diya!!
kya kya bake jaa raha hai bhai ???
brainwashed thug spotted
siachin ke wapis lene ke liye pakistaniyo ne kargil kiya dono gawa diye
u lost majority of kashmir in 1948
u lost in 1965
u lost in 1971 (east pakistan
u lost siachin in 1984
u lost kargil in 1999
pakistan me iska ulta padhate hai kya lolz
I advice u to google that currently who controls all these territories
nice joke brainwashed jehadi ??
atleast do a proper research or google
Now the reality
1n 1948 India won, Indian Army kicked out pakistani irregulars from many areas which now lies in Indian Kashmir and eventually ceasefire occured on modern LOC
In 1965 , yes you won runn of kutch’s some area but later it came in india by international tribunal
In 1965 , lol the operation which was launched to capture j&k ended in celebrating the Defence Lahore , pakistani can find win in anything lol , we returned because we had no interest in any Pakistan’s land ,we could have easily taken some of east Pakistan’s land but we didn’t.
1971 , lost half of your country , 93000 soldiers+officers+ gov employees surrendered to Indian Army and many villages across LOC came under Indian control.
1984, lost all strategic peaks in Siachen (almost all Siachen glacier) to Indian Army except a very important qaid post dominating major Indian positions.
1987, qaid post fall in Indian army’s hand , Major pakistani offensive wave of SSG commandos pushed back , pakistan suffered almost 4 times more casualty than India
Pakistan Lost whole Siachen (not almost)but to save some face they named some parts of skardu as Siachen
1999, pakistan aims to capture kargil and trade it with Siachen , failed miserably , didn’t take bodies of it’s to hide casualties your Lt Gen Shahid Aziz said on Air “our post were falling one by one , Musharraf feared that after regaining Kargil Indian Army can cross LOC so he requested Nawaz Sharif to go to US and force India to ceasefire” but US said India will not ceasefire until they regain their territory so Musharraf had to withdraw soldiers under heavy Indian fire which lead to massive deaths of Pakistani soldiers , if you consider that’s victory then you’re the most stupid person in world.
u have lost all siachin , kargil, bangladesh and majority of kashmir lost every war sharam nhi aati ?
India defeat Pakistan in all the wars over kashmir. India won in 1947-48, 1965 and 1999.
Oolta chor kotwal ko daantey!!
Kaun kise pareshan karta h duniya ko pata h pappu lal.
Tumhari tarah hum terrorists bhej kar chupke se attack nahi karwate…khule aam attack karte hai….
Bangladesh to kaat diya tumhare pichwade se India ne, LOC se aage to badh ni paaye tum….surgical strike se to bacha ni paaye apne terrorists ko….kya khaak kuch ukhaadoge.. terrorists bhej kar India me attack karwate ho
Me Islam ki bahut izzat karta hu…lekin tum log kutto ki paidaayish ho…naak me dam kar rakha h poori duniya me….tumhare chakkar me jo acche pakistani h wo bhi badnaam ho rhe h ..
Kuch akal h to waqt rehte sudhar jaao, warna apne akaa ka g**nd khujaao????
Says a an indian man lol. You lost 1948,1965,1999 and 2001
1948: India entered after pak had occupied the land as Kashmir was not Indian land then, after India came in, pakistani advance was stopped dead in its track.
1965: Pak started with Operation Grand Slam, to occupy all of Kashmir but could not make any gains, India’s objective was only defending Kashmir, not capturing say Lahore, yet Indian advance was right at the border Lahore. Pak lost more men, tanks and lost 3 times more land than India. At the end of the war, India had used 14% of her ammunition, pak had exhausted around 80%. In the two tank battles, the Battle of Asal Uttar, India beat Pak even though pak had better tanks as well as outnumbered India 1:2, for every 1 Indian tank pak had 2. Still pak lost, in the battle of Chawinda, the result was inconclusive but India gained 460 sq km of paki territory.
1971: How can you even bother defending this? India tore pakistan in 2 and pak had the support of every major power then, India only had USSR. Karachi harbour was destroyed and pak lost almost a third of its navy.
1999: Pak backstabbed India that was trying to make peace, paki troops were occupying greater heights and had every advantage thus, still India threw the pakis out, pakistan lost 700 men for 500 of India, Nawaz Shariff said something like 4000 KIA for Pak terrible considering that India was at a disadvantage. Pakistan even decided not to accept her soldiers, who were buried later on by the Indian Army with full battle honours.
2001 was a game changer for India but even then had India decided to enter pakistan it was game over.
What is the use of commenting now, when you don’t print.
Had there been Nehru in 1965. We certainly had lost Kashmir. The way Pakistanis infiltrated into valley, like 1947, and Pakistan’s attack on the small connecting narrow link to JK, certainly had succeeded, if Shastari had not opened the Punjab border attack. Nehru definitely had not attacked Lahore sector because of him morality. The same can be said about 1971, which Nehru had never imagined, what his daughter did. Read a book about 1965 war by a Pakistani General, probably Gohar Ayub, where he says that Pakistan had the inside information about Indian strategy of response, through the wife of a high ranking, who rose to higher ranks. The said strategy was exploded by Gen Harbax Singh, when he refused to follow his higher officers direction and took decision on the ground situation at the site. I read books by both long time ago, so don’t have clear memory.
The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. As a Pakistani Kashmiri, I really do hope that irrespective of how past wars have turned out, we avoid any future wars, regardless of who can win those either. Again, as a Pakistani Kashmiri, I would take now pleasure in defeating India in a war. Might win the war but you’ve lost your morals and soul taking the life of another human being, regardless of their nationality. Pakistan zindabad and Jai hind.
It appears that the General has read one book, Crossed Swords by Shuja Nawaz, and then sat down and written a quick selective summary. It serves no useful purpose. One can easily confuse the author as an undergraduate student in IR instead of a General.
The summary of the four encounters with Pakistan -1947, 1965,1971 and 1999 is simply that Pakistan rejoiced in underestimating India and were constrained to assume that India had no capability to fight. The reason seems that Pakistan perpetually lives in denial. The seven decades of antagonism and direct as well as indirect conflict with India has impoverished Pakistan and drained the nation of its economic resources. And the sole reason for this negativism is that Pakistan has no identity independent of India. This is a perpetual psychological bondage they should have discarded at the outset and lived as a truly independent nation, but unfortunately they didn’t. Now Pakistan has no other option but to survive as a vassal of China. Incidentally, Bangladesh has rejected this bondage and negativism and is now economically prospering.
Three defeats? If you tell yourself something enough times you are likely to believe yourself! Pakistan controlled no part of Jammu and Kashmir but does now after the 1948 war and Pakistan thwarted a full on attack on Lahore in 1965. Difficult to see how those are defeats. 1971 certainly was a defeat… a calamitous one. Let’s not overlook Rann of Kutch in April 1965 when smaller Pakistani forces routed larger Indian forces in the area. Let’s try and be a bit more balanced and less fake news. India is certainly entitled to its opinion but not its own facts. Thank you.
Reason for loosing part of Kashmir in 1948 is because it was still not part of Indian Union; also It was jawahrlal-Naheru who was not a goot strgist and leader who did not allow Army additional 3 days to colean area of Pakistani Raiders (irregular Army) and get its authority on all of Kashmir and Ladakh including Gilgit Battlistan area,. .
The Good General unfortunately promotes the rather spurious argument that the British were in favour of Kashmir acceding to Pakistan, the truth is nothing could be further from the truth, it was the Britishers who ensured that Bharat gains a land corridor to J&K when they they handed over Muslim majority Gurdaspur to Bharat, General Singh also conveniently ignores the intervention of RSS fanatics accompanied by forces from Patiala who participated in the infamous “Jammu Massacre” well before any Tribals had entered the conflict, this is well documented by neutral observers such as reputed historians Alistair Lamb and Christopher Snedden, bottom line the Maharaja had signed a Standstill agreement with Pakistan, he violated this agreement when he invited RSS proxies, forces from Patiala and subsequently the Indian army to intervene in J&K. It is clear when it comes to “PROXIES” Bharat is the first power to introduce them in South Asia, they subsequently used them in E. Pakistan in the form of Mukti Bani, the Tamil tiger in Sri-Lanka, Ikhwani thugs led by Kukka Parray in Kashmir and today the Baloch proxies as well as the ghoulish TTP. Regards friends in Bharat
Well said. India is no innocent of terrorism, but a pioneer of it while a great pretender by pointing finger on Pak (who at least didn’t denied it has a terrorism trouble).
Indira Gandhi ordered RAWS to create world first known state sponsored suicide bomber terrorist LTTE to terrorize Sri Lanka for 30yrs, is greatest evidence of India’s terrorism guilt. Didn’t Mahatma Gandhi was killed by Hindutva suicide bomber?
India’s groomed Balochistan terrorist bombing of Chinese consular in Pak is another startling act of India, with Modi unabashedly had public photo shots to welcome its chief in India. After get widely reported, India had that terrorist chief assassinated in Afgh likely to avoid Pak-China persue. Then India project in Iran’s sea port was later bombed as retaliation. Russia think tank had reported on this.
The cruel massacre of entire Nepal royal family by RAWS to regime change still haunt the Nepalese tgese days. So was Sikkim royal family been took out by RAWS.
Nice one. Even though we helped bangladeshis getting the freedom they never thankful to us. Shekar Gupta is bit political and soft on bangladeshis may be the print getting funds from them. I met few bangladeshis they are islamists and anti india. Never trust bangladeshis
1948 pakistan won , liberated Azad kashmir
1965 Pakistan won, Ran of kutch, beat back Indian intrusion.
1965 war, Pakistan won, stopped Indian invasion, General Prasad Indian GOC jeep, cane, shoes, maps, cap lying in Lahore museum.
1971, lost only in East Pakistan, mainly due to Soviet help to India and no US help to Pakistan.
1999 won kargil, brilliant move, withdrew under US pressure.
2019 February won, downed Indian Mig 21 and sukoi and a chopper.
India a size three times bigger, always lost to its neighbour’s.
Now the reality
1n 1948 India won, Indian Army kicked out pakistani irregulars from many areas which now lies in Indian Kashmir and eventually ceasefire occured on modern LOC
In 1965 , yes you won runn of kutch’s some area but later it came in india by international tribunal
In 1965 , lol the operation which was launched to capture j&k ended in celebrating the Defence Lahore , pakistani can find win in anything lol , we returned because we had no interest in any Pakistan’s land ,we could have easily taken some of east Pakistan’s land but we didn’t.
1971 , lost half of your country , 93000 soldiers+officers+ gov employees surrendered to Indian Army and many villages across LOC came under Indian control.
1984, lost all strategic peaks in Siachen (almost all Siachen glacier) to Indian Army except a very important qaid post dominating major Indian positions.
1987, qaid post fall in Indian army’s hand , Major pakistani offensive wave of SSG commandos pushed back , pakistan suffered almost 4 times more casualty than India
Pakistan Lost whole Siachen (not almost)but to save some face they named some parts of skardu as Siachen
1999, pakistan aims to capture kargil and trade it with Siachen , failed miserably , didn’t take bodies of it’s to hide casualties your Lt Gen Shahid Aziz said on Air “our post were falling one by one , Musharraf feared that after regaining Kargil Indian Army can cross LOC so he requested Nawaz Sharif to go to US and force India to ceasefire” but US said India will not ceasefire until they regain their territory so Musharraf had to withdraw soldiers under heavy Indian fire which lead to massive deaths of Pakistani soldiers , if you consider that’s victory then you’re the most stupid person in world.
2019, it was a small skirmish between IAF and PAF , PAF won this , hands down
PAF almost bombed Indian military installations , PAF shot down a Mig 21 (no su30 mki , your kaiser Tufail also admitted this in his blog) , IAF shot down its own heli (no f16 was shot down atleast acc to me)
What? Pakistan won even in 1971. What makes you think Pak Army lost in 1971?
As for religiously motivated Pakistanis, it is no different with the Hindu army, the BJP, RSS. They also say they are fighting for Hindus.
These tiresome Hindu generals who write in the media need to update themselves and us on current threats :
What are the Hindus going to do against China. Past victories against Pak don’t help. What did the Hindus learn from the past defeat from China ? So far, the Hindus have not learnt much. They showed abject cowardice in Galwan.
What are Hindus going to do in a combined two front war ? We had Bipin Rawat boasting India was well prepared, can this author tell us how ?
I advise the author to write something relevant at this time.
Yet again ludicrous writer thinking they won all the wars but forgetting that pakistan never lost a war in the western sector and only lost in the eastern sector cause of no deployment possible. We indians should rather concentrate on properly training our army and not using our soldiers for home duty for families of officers
lol it Pakistan vs India in these comments. This article is labeled as an OPINION, this whole article may contain construed facts and thoughts but it is still considered opinion based. Considering that fact, ANCHORING BIAS will be present in these situations where someone is trying to incorporate some type of numerical data! So everyone in the comments trying to defend their country just think about how you are falling into the trap of BIAS. Learn to accept each other’s opinions and stop arguing over something that does not matter. Everybody knows Pakistan is better lol so no need to argue.
Nuclear deterrence does not work. This is plain and simple. Nuclear Deterrence works similar to the game of poker, giving bluff. Once that bluff is called, there is nothing to counter.
E.g. let’s say Pakistan threatens the use of tactical nuclear weapon and India calls its bluff and sends ten divisions of infantry supported by 2-3 mechanized divisions. What will Pakistan do? If Pakistan uses a tactical nuke and kills about fifty thousand soldiers, then all deals are off the table. India will retaliate so massively that Pakistan will end up with more than 10-15 million dead and the entire political + military leadership having no place to hide. In most likely case, an enraged India will bulldoze the country while the giant powers will watch passively since using nuclear weapons is the proverbial red line no one crosses. India will nab every single political and military leaders that it can lay its hands on, bring them back to India and hang them after a show trial. Those military or political leaders who will be able to evade capture will have no place to hide – Iran or Afghanistan will not shelter them, not even the Taliban.
India has won all 4 wars against Pak especially the Kargil war where 93000 pak soldiers + officials surrendered to india and in all 4 wars pak suffered way more loss and lost more men resources and even territory and paks dream of Kashmir is also not fullfilled yet 2/3 of Kashmir still is with india so they did not pass in their effort
India has won all 4 wars against Pak especially the Kargil war when 93000 pak surrendered to india in all 4 wars if u see pak suffered more loss than india, pak lost more men , more resources and even territory and pak dream of Kashmir is still not successful 2/ 3 of Kashmir lies with india
Pakistan never won any war against india.
There is four wars happen between india and Pakistan and india won all of them.
Pakistani people thinks that Pakistan won 1965 war .
But in 1965 war india lost 2,862 soliders
And Pakistan lost 5,800 soliders
India lost 97 tanks
And Pakistan lost 450 tanks.
If anyone don’t believe me so search on google
Pakistan never won any war against india.
There is four wars happen between india and Pakistan and india won all of them.
Pakistani people thinks that Pakistan won 1965 war ?
But in 1965 war india lost 2,862 soliders
And Pakistan lost 5,800 soliders ?
India lost 97 tanks??.
Pakistan lost 450 tanks?
If you don’t believe me so search on google??
bhai indian 1971 mein apney 12 runways kho chuka hai operation changez khan
in 1965 india lost 450 tanks at sialkot
india lost 4/5 of kargil i n kargil war 1999
and the great victory of IAF was that wg cdr abhinandan drank the tea and said the tea was fantastic xd hahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahah
India never won any war over Kashmir. Pakistan defeated India both in 1948, 1965 & 1999. India always starts war with Pakistan. When Pakistan gives befitting reply then India cry to UN. This has been the case every time.
bhai tumhe ye sab kisne padhaya your argument is correct but kirdar badal gaye ???
u lost majority of kashmir in 1948
u lost in 1965
u lost in 1971 (east pakistan
u lost siachin in 1984
u lost kargil in 1999
pakistan me iska ulta padhate hai kya lolz
I advice u to google that currently who controls all these territories
you are always loser india if we want we can destroy you in second
Abhinand sy pochu kesa diya!!
kya kya bake jaa raha hai bhai ???
brainwashed thug spotted
siachin ke wapis lene ke liye pakistaniyo ne kargil kiya dono gawa diye
u lost majority of kashmir in 1948
u lost in 1965
u lost in 1971 (east pakistan
u lost siachin in 1984
u lost kargil in 1999
pakistan me iska ulta padhate hai kya lolz
I advice u to google that currently who controls all these territories
nice joke brainwashed jehadi ??
atleast do a proper research or google
Now the reality
1n 1948 India won, Indian Army kicked out pakistani irregulars from many areas which now lies in Indian Kashmir and eventually ceasefire occured on modern LOC
In 1965 , yes you won runn of kutch’s some area but later it came in india by international tribunal
In 1965 , lol the operation which was launched to capture j&k ended in celebrating the Defence Lahore , pakistani can find win in anything lol , we returned because we had no interest in any Pakistan’s land ,we could have easily taken some of east Pakistan’s land but we didn’t.
1971 , lost half of your country , 93000 soldiers+officers+ gov employees surrendered to Indian Army and many villages across LOC came under Indian control.
1984, lost all strategic peaks in Siachen (almost all Siachen glacier) to Indian Army except a very important qaid post dominating major Indian positions.
1987, qaid post fall in Indian army’s hand , Major pakistani offensive wave of SSG commandos pushed back , pakistan suffered almost 4 times more casualty than India
Pakistan Lost whole Siachen (not almost)but to save some face they named some parts of skardu as Siachen
1999, pakistan aims to capture kargil and trade it with Siachen , failed miserably , didn’t take bodies of it’s to hide casualties your Lt Gen Shahid Aziz said on Air “our post were falling one by one , Musharraf feared that after regaining Kargil Indian Army can cross LOC so he requested Nawaz Sharif to go to US and force India to ceasefire” but US said India will not ceasefire until they regain their territory so Musharraf had to withdraw soldiers under heavy Indian fire which lead to massive deaths of Pakistani soldiers , if you consider that’s victory then you’re the most stupid person in world.
u have lost all siachin , kargil, bangladesh and majority of kashmir lost every war sharam nhi aati ?
India defeat Pakistan in all the wars over kashmir. India won in 1947-48, 1965 and 1999.
Oolta chor kotwal ko daantey!!
Kaun kise pareshan karta h duniya ko pata h pappu lal.
Tumhari tarah hum terrorists bhej kar chupke se attack nahi karwate…khule aam attack karte hai….
Bangladesh to kaat diya tumhare pichwade se India ne, LOC se aage to badh ni paaye tum….surgical strike se to bacha ni paaye apne terrorists ko….kya khaak kuch ukhaadoge.. terrorists bhej kar India me attack karwate ho
Me Islam ki bahut izzat karta hu…lekin tum log kutto ki paidaayish ho…naak me dam kar rakha h poori duniya me….tumhare chakkar me jo acche pakistani h wo bhi badnaam ho rhe h ..
Kuch akal h to waqt rehte sudhar jaao, warna apne akaa ka g**nd khujaao????
Says a an indian man lol. You lost 1948,1965,1999 and 2001
1948: India entered after pak had occupied the land as Kashmir was not Indian land then, after India came in, pakistani advance was stopped dead in its track.
1965: Pak started with Operation Grand Slam, to occupy all of Kashmir but could not make any gains, India’s objective was only defending Kashmir, not capturing say Lahore, yet Indian advance was right at the border Lahore. Pak lost more men, tanks and lost 3 times more land than India. At the end of the war, India had used 14% of her ammunition, pak had exhausted around 80%. In the two tank battles, the Battle of Asal Uttar, India beat Pak even though pak had better tanks as well as outnumbered India 1:2, for every 1 Indian tank pak had 2. Still pak lost, in the battle of Chawinda, the result was inconclusive but India gained 460 sq km of paki territory.
1971: How can you even bother defending this? India tore pakistan in 2 and pak had the support of every major power then, India only had USSR. Karachi harbour was destroyed and pak lost almost a third of its navy.
1999: Pak backstabbed India that was trying to make peace, paki troops were occupying greater heights and had every advantage thus, still India threw the pakis out, pakistan lost 700 men for 500 of India, Nawaz Shariff said something like 4000 KIA for Pak terrible considering that India was at a disadvantage. Pakistan even decided not to accept her soldiers, who were buried later on by the Indian Army with full battle honours.
2001 was a game changer for India but even then had India decided to enter pakistan it was game over.
What is the use of commenting now, when you don’t print.
Had there been Nehru in 1965. We certainly had lost Kashmir. The way Pakistanis infiltrated into valley, like 1947, and Pakistan’s attack on the small connecting narrow link to JK, certainly had succeeded, if Shastari had not opened the Punjab border attack. Nehru definitely had not attacked Lahore sector because of him morality. The same can be said about 1971, which Nehru had never imagined, what his daughter did. Read a book about 1965 war by a Pakistani General, probably Gohar Ayub, where he says that Pakistan had the inside information about Indian strategy of response, through the wife of a high ranking, who rose to higher ranks. The said strategy was exploded by Gen Harbax Singh, when he refused to follow his higher officers direction and took decision on the ground situation at the site. I read books by both long time ago, so don’t have clear memory.
The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. As a Pakistani Kashmiri, I really do hope that irrespective of how past wars have turned out, we avoid any future wars, regardless of who can win those either. Again, as a Pakistani Kashmiri, I would take now pleasure in defeating India in a war. Might win the war but you’ve lost your morals and soul taking the life of another human being, regardless of their nationality. Pakistan zindabad and Jai hind.
well said!
It appears that the General has read one book, Crossed Swords by Shuja Nawaz, and then sat down and written a quick selective summary. It serves no useful purpose. One can easily confuse the author as an undergraduate student in IR instead of a General.
The summary of the four encounters with Pakistan -1947, 1965,1971 and 1999 is simply that Pakistan rejoiced in underestimating India and were constrained to assume that India had no capability to fight. The reason seems that Pakistan perpetually lives in denial. The seven decades of antagonism and direct as well as indirect conflict with India has impoverished Pakistan and drained the nation of its economic resources. And the sole reason for this negativism is that Pakistan has no identity independent of India. This is a perpetual psychological bondage they should have discarded at the outset and lived as a truly independent nation, but unfortunately they didn’t. Now Pakistan has no other option but to survive as a vassal of China. Incidentally, Bangladesh has rejected this bondage and negativism and is now economically prospering.
Three defeats? If you tell yourself something enough times you are likely to believe yourself! Pakistan controlled no part of Jammu and Kashmir but does now after the 1948 war and Pakistan thwarted a full on attack on Lahore in 1965. Difficult to see how those are defeats. 1971 certainly was a defeat… a calamitous one. Let’s not overlook Rann of Kutch in April 1965 when smaller Pakistani forces routed larger Indian forces in the area. Let’s try and be a bit more balanced and less fake news. India is certainly entitled to its opinion but not its own facts. Thank you.
Reason for loosing part of Kashmir in 1948 is because it was still not part of Indian Union; also It was jawahrlal-Naheru who was not a goot strgist and leader who did not allow Army additional 3 days to colean area of Pakistani Raiders (irregular Army) and get its authority on all of Kashmir and Ladakh including Gilgit Battlistan area,. .
Good article
Excellent article ?
The Good General unfortunately promotes the rather spurious argument that the British were in favour of Kashmir acceding to Pakistan, the truth is nothing could be further from the truth, it was the Britishers who ensured that Bharat gains a land corridor to J&K when they they handed over Muslim majority Gurdaspur to Bharat, General Singh also conveniently ignores the intervention of RSS fanatics accompanied by forces from Patiala who participated in the infamous “Jammu Massacre” well before any Tribals had entered the conflict, this is well documented by neutral observers such as reputed historians Alistair Lamb and Christopher Snedden, bottom line the Maharaja had signed a Standstill agreement with Pakistan, he violated this agreement when he invited RSS proxies, forces from Patiala and subsequently the Indian army to intervene in J&K. It is clear when it comes to “PROXIES” Bharat is the first power to introduce them in South Asia, they subsequently used them in E. Pakistan in the form of Mukti Bani, the Tamil tiger in Sri-Lanka, Ikhwani thugs led by Kukka Parray in Kashmir and today the Baloch proxies as well as the ghoulish TTP. Regards friends in Bharat
Well said. India is no innocent of terrorism, but a pioneer of it while a great pretender by pointing finger on Pak (who at least didn’t denied it has a terrorism trouble).
Indira Gandhi ordered RAWS to create world first known state sponsored suicide bomber terrorist LTTE to terrorize Sri Lanka for 30yrs, is greatest evidence of India’s terrorism guilt. Didn’t Mahatma Gandhi was killed by Hindutva suicide bomber?
India’s groomed Balochistan terrorist bombing of Chinese consular in Pak is another startling act of India, with Modi unabashedly had public photo shots to welcome its chief in India. After get widely reported, India had that terrorist chief assassinated in Afgh likely to avoid Pak-China persue. Then India project in Iran’s sea port was later bombed as retaliation. Russia think tank had reported on this.
The cruel massacre of entire Nepal royal family by RAWS to regime change still haunt the Nepalese tgese days. So was Sikkim royal family been took out by RAWS.
Nice one. Even though we helped bangladeshis getting the freedom they never thankful to us. Shekar Gupta is bit political and soft on bangladeshis may be the print getting funds from them. I met few bangladeshis they are islamists and anti india. Never trust bangladeshis
just typical jehadi mindset
1948 pakistan won , liberated Azad kashmir
1965 Pakistan won, Ran of kutch, beat back Indian intrusion.
1965 war, Pakistan won, stopped Indian invasion, General Prasad Indian GOC jeep, cane, shoes, maps, cap lying in Lahore museum.
1971, lost only in East Pakistan, mainly due to Soviet help to India and no US help to Pakistan.
1999 won kargil, brilliant move, withdrew under US pressure.
2019 February won, downed Indian Mig 21 and sukoi and a chopper.
India a size three times bigger, always lost to its neighbour’s.
Now the reality
1n 1948 India won, Indian Army kicked out pakistani irregulars from many areas which now lies in Indian Kashmir and eventually ceasefire occured on modern LOC
In 1965 , yes you won runn of kutch’s some area but later it came in india by international tribunal
In 1965 , lol the operation which was launched to capture j&k ended in celebrating the Defence Lahore , pakistani can find win in anything lol , we returned because we had no interest in any Pakistan’s land ,we could have easily taken some of east Pakistan’s land but we didn’t.
1971 , lost half of your country , 93000 soldiers+officers+ gov employees surrendered to Indian Army and many villages across LOC came under Indian control.
1984, lost all strategic peaks in Siachen (almost all Siachen glacier) to Indian Army except a very important qaid post dominating major Indian positions.
1987, qaid post fall in Indian army’s hand , Major pakistani offensive wave of SSG commandos pushed back , pakistan suffered almost 4 times more casualty than India
Pakistan Lost whole Siachen (not almost)but to save some face they named some parts of skardu as Siachen
1999, pakistan aims to capture kargil and trade it with Siachen , failed miserably , didn’t take bodies of it’s to hide casualties your Lt Gen Shahid Aziz said on Air “our post were falling one by one , Musharraf feared that after regaining Kargil Indian Army can cross LOC so he requested Nawaz Sharif to go to US and force India to ceasefire” but US said India will not ceasefire until they regain their territory so Musharraf had to withdraw soldiers under heavy Indian fire which lead to massive deaths of Pakistani soldiers , if you consider that’s victory then you’re the most stupid person in world.
2019, it was a small skirmish between IAF and PAF , PAF won this , hands down
PAF almost bombed Indian military installations , PAF shot down a Mig 21 (no su30 mki , your kaiser Tufail also admitted this in his blog) , IAF shot down its own heli (no f16 was shot down atleast acc to me)
What? Pakistan won even in 1971. What makes you think Pak Army lost in 1971?
As for religiously motivated Pakistanis, it is no different with the Hindu army, the BJP, RSS. They also say they are fighting for Hindus.
These tiresome Hindu generals who write in the media need to update themselves and us on current threats :
What are the Hindus going to do against China. Past victories against Pak don’t help. What did the Hindus learn from the past defeat from China ? So far, the Hindus have not learnt much. They showed abject cowardice in Galwan.
What are Hindus going to do in a combined two front war ? We had Bipin Rawat boasting India was well prepared, can this author tell us how ?
I advise the author to write something relevant at this time.
You think Mr. Singh is a Hindu?
Yet again ludicrous writer thinking they won all the wars but forgetting that pakistan never lost a war in the western sector and only lost in the eastern sector cause of no deployment possible. We indians should rather concentrate on properly training our army and not using our soldiers for home duty for families of officers