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If a Muslim is a Religious and ardent follower of Islam then he/she cannot gather love and respect for the Nation.
Dr. Bhimrao Sakpal stated the mentality of Muslims on point in his book “Pakistan or the partition of India”. For Muslims only their religion is supreme and the country doesn’t even come in the top 5.
Muslims in India can find infinite ways to get offended. They cannot stand on Vande Matram, cannot say Bharat Mata Ki Jai, cannot Respect their PM and you expect Patriotism from them?
For them only the Muslim brotherhood matters, which makes co-existence with them impossible. Take any country and tell me where Muslims assimilate without any problem and it doesn’t resulted in the end of existence for the natives?
They want all the benefits from a country but cannot abide by the law of the land, they want to govern themselves with the law of Arabs even when they are completely antithetical to a secular society.
One other reason why Muslims aren’t joining Indian armed forces is bcz of our religious leaders.
They didn’t motivate us to join Indian armed forces and the main reason why they are saying this is partiality.
Now you’ll say wht I am saying just read the above comments just read the comment of V Ramesh shrnevasan
He said in his previous comments ” Muslims should have to change their religion and accept the Religion of their forefathers and Don’t follow the guidance of Quran ”
You can smell the hate through the comment section and blaming Indian Muslims why they are not joining ?.
I am an Indian Muslim and I know my forefathers were Hindus & rajput.
Is this makes a difference?
What you have to do is work on Muslim community educate them and motivate them to join Indian military.
Boys from Muslim community must be encouraged to join sainik schools Rimc King George schools and the encouraged trained and motivated to join NDA IMA OTA Naval and airforce academies. Retd Muslim officers must be employed with JCOS Ncos to educate train and guide the youth .financial motivation be given to youth both boys and girls to take up teaching nursing medical pharma hospitality technician IT mechanical electrical agriculture horticul ture transportation and other jobs including fashion designing shipping airlines and construction jobs .Abooming economy must cater for all and education in good schools colleges is the first step which must be set up by govt in collaboration with the wakf boards both Sunni Shia’s ahmediyas and other communities and sects .liberal financial awards loans be given to all .
2 years of army service be made compulsary for boys before college and one year for the girls , no excuse or if any one caught breaking law an additional time be added.
HINDUISM’S belief of true religion which is the best human values,e.g Sarvey bhawantu sukhin,Vasudhev kutumbkam,sarv hitai, is only religious theory for flourishing other religion practices. E.g Muslim, Christ. Hindu believes in virtue of humanity accepting every creed, book, but Muslim belief system although they are not lover of education and books but they believe only in Koran and that is the problem against humanity and subsequently raising ISIS like group since 1400 they do not believe in identity with mother-land,Vande Mataram and country. So they must not be allowed in army. The only Muslim who are good who don’t follow Kuran, donot level other kafir for killing.,but very few Muslim realise and accept this. Muslim first be reconverted in religion of their forefathers which in India are Hondus, before invader’s forcefully conversion, then they must be allowed at in the army.
Mr. V Ramesh Srinivasan, You cant say like that for all muslims. What is your Opinion about the great Mr. APJ Abdul kalam, our ex president. What will you say about Abdul Hameed, the Indian soldier who destroyed 7 pakistani tanks single handedly and laid down his life for the motherland.He was awarded Param veer chakra posthumously for his bravery .
Only mentally ill people talk like you.
HINDUISM’S belief of true religion which is the best human values,e.g Sarvey bhawantu sukhin,Vasudhev kutumbkam,sarv hitai, is only religious theory for flourishing other imperfect religion practices. E.g Muslim, Christ. Hindu believes in virtue of humanity accepting every creed, book, but Muslim belief system although they are not lover of education and books but they believe only in Koran and that is the problem against humanity and subsequently raising ISIS like group since 1400 they do not believe in Vande Mataram. and country. So they must not be allowed in army. The only Muslim who are good who don’t follow Kuran, donot level other kefir for killing.,but very few Muslim realise and accept this. Muslim first be converted in Other religion of their forefathers, before invader’s forcefully conversion, then they must be allowed at in the army.
The first hero of 1965 war was Havaldar Major Abdul Hamid of the Grenadiers. He was posthumously awarded the Param Vir Chakra, India’s highest award for gallantry.
There is no relegion in Indian Army. When we are in Army we know only one Relegion. Yes that is Jai Hind. I am an Ex.Serviceman who was recruited on 10 Apr 1970. During my training my best friend was Bindu Khan Patan from Rajasthan. Many muslims are in Indian Army as senior officers as well in junior position. There are many muslims who want to join in Indian Defence forces.
It’s not that Muslims don’t want to join armed forces and no one labels you a bad Muslim for joining your own countries army, infact dying for your motherland is jihad/sacrifice for muslims. Very few Muslims applying for army because they select muslims very rare, like if your relative was in the armed force, maybe, and on top of that forget about any promotions.
No one can change Muslims. They are not having country spirit, only religion fanatic.
Islam is mesmerism. Not a good or even a religion.
So only solution is all Muslims of the world put together in one place.
They can’t live with other people.
Investing in terms of friendship, affection etc all are waste to a Muslim.
So my advice is ISLAM IS A TERROR OR EVIL TO MANKIND.
TRY TO AVOID ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY MUSLIM UN WORLD
Mr. Ramesh srinivasan, You cant talk like that about all muslims. What is your opinion about Mr. APJ Abdul kalam.The great scientist and our ex president. What will you say about Abdul Hameed, the indian soldier who destroyed 7 pakistani tanks single handedly in indo pak war. He was honoured with Param veer chakra the highest military award for his bravery. Only mentally ill people can talk like this about muslims. Take treatment.
You are making me chuckle now…!! You are countering his comment by misusing name of a noble soul Mr APJ Abdul kalam. We all know very well that there were thousands of muslims marching on the road behind dead body of a terrorist Yakub menon. Same day was death ceremony of Abdul kalam as well, mostly attended by Hindus. So, please don’t play ‘taqiya’. Don’t fool us. We don’t trust you. In fact we don’t trust any muslim.
With these statements you have proved that you work for the pakistani ISI.
It would be a highly elevated moment when retired Lt. General Hasnain will gather enough courage to Modi to stop “shaming” the Muslims! Subedar Abdul Hameed is not alive, he could have given some good advice to the present day General : it is majoritarian attitude which is to be questioned, Muslims don’t need to prove their Nationalism, General!
Sir, indeed Indian army has a very rich, tradition and culture and joining this great institution will help us in making a better muslim, a better hindu, a better sikh, a better christian and so on. In fact it will help us in making a better Individual to serve not only our nation but the whole World and Societies.
The article is so on point about the “Reservation” part save for the fact that while not either faith-based or even caste-based, the Indian armed forces indeed have a quota for not-so-practical reasons.
Joining the civilian side of the government, with the IAS and the IFS at the apex, would be equally good. However, the basic formulation we should all accept, from our hearts, is that an Indian Muslim – like a Hindu – does not have to “ do “ anything to prove himself in any sense, least of all of being patriotic. It is deeply insidious to suggest that they need to overtly be – and be seen – on India’s side, on something as simple as cheering the Indian cricket team, especially when it beats Pakistan. After seventy years of being together, by choice not compulsion, some things should be taken for granted.
If a Muslim is a Religious and ardent follower of Islam then he/she cannot gather love and respect for the Nation.
Dr. Bhimrao Sakpal stated the mentality of Muslims on point in his book “Pakistan or the partition of India”. For Muslims only their religion is supreme and the country doesn’t even come in the top 5.
Muslims in India can find infinite ways to get offended. They cannot stand on Vande Matram, cannot say Bharat Mata Ki Jai, cannot Respect their PM and you expect Patriotism from them?
For them only the Muslim brotherhood matters, which makes co-existence with them impossible. Take any country and tell me where Muslims assimilate without any problem and it doesn’t resulted in the end of existence for the natives?
They want all the benefits from a country but cannot abide by the law of the land, they want to govern themselves with the law of Arabs even when they are completely antithetical to a secular society.
One other reason why Muslims aren’t joining Indian armed forces is bcz of our religious leaders.
They didn’t motivate us to join Indian armed forces and the main reason why they are saying this is partiality.
Now you’ll say wht I am saying just read the above comments just read the comment of V Ramesh shrnevasan
He said in his previous comments ” Muslims should have to change their religion and accept the Religion of their forefathers and Don’t follow the guidance of Quran ”
You can smell the hate through the comment section and blaming Indian Muslims why they are not joining ?.
I am an Indian Muslim and I know my forefathers were Hindus & rajput.
Is this makes a difference?
What you have to do is work on Muslim community educate them and motivate them to join Indian military.
Boys from Muslim community must be encouraged to join sainik schools Rimc King George schools and the encouraged trained and motivated to join NDA IMA OTA Naval and airforce academies. Retd Muslim officers must be employed with JCOS Ncos to educate train and guide the youth .financial motivation be given to youth both boys and girls to take up teaching nursing medical pharma hospitality technician IT mechanical electrical agriculture horticul ture transportation and other jobs including fashion designing shipping airlines and construction jobs .Abooming economy must cater for all and education in good schools colleges is the first step which must be set up by govt in collaboration with the wakf boards both Sunni Shia’s ahmediyas and other communities and sects .liberal financial awards loans be given to all .
2 years of army service be made compulsary for boys before college and one year for the girls , no excuse or if any one caught breaking law an additional time be added.
This is truth I am agree with Mr. V.Ramesh.Srenyvasan.
HINDUISM’S belief of true religion which is the best human values,e.g Sarvey bhawantu sukhin,Vasudhev kutumbkam,sarv hitai, is only religious theory for flourishing other religion practices. E.g Muslim, Christ. Hindu believes in virtue of humanity accepting every creed, book, but Muslim belief system although they are not lover of education and books but they believe only in Koran and that is the problem against humanity and subsequently raising ISIS like group since 1400 they do not believe in identity with mother-land,Vande Mataram and country. So they must not be allowed in army. The only Muslim who are good who don’t follow Kuran, donot level other kafir for killing.,but very few Muslim realise and accept this. Muslim first be reconverted in religion of their forefathers which in India are Hondus, before invader’s forcefully conversion, then they must be allowed at in the army.
Mr. V Ramesh Srinivasan, You cant say like that for all muslims. What is your Opinion about the great Mr. APJ Abdul kalam, our ex president. What will you say about Abdul Hameed, the Indian soldier who destroyed 7 pakistani tanks single handedly and laid down his life for the motherland.He was awarded Param veer chakra posthumously for his bravery .
Only mentally ill people talk like you.
HINDUISM’S belief of true religion which is the best human values,e.g Sarvey bhawantu sukhin,Vasudhev kutumbkam,sarv hitai, is only religious theory for flourishing other imperfect religion practices. E.g Muslim, Christ. Hindu believes in virtue of humanity accepting every creed, book, but Muslim belief system although they are not lover of education and books but they believe only in Koran and that is the problem against humanity and subsequently raising ISIS like group since 1400 they do not believe in Vande Mataram. and country. So they must not be allowed in army. The only Muslim who are good who don’t follow Kuran, donot level other kefir for killing.,but very few Muslim realise and accept this. Muslim first be converted in Other religion of their forefathers, before invader’s forcefully conversion, then they must be allowed at in the army.
The first hero of 1965 war was Havaldar Major Abdul Hamid of the Grenadiers. He was posthumously awarded the Param Vir Chakra, India’s highest award for gallantry.
There is no relegion in Indian Army. When we are in Army we know only one Relegion. Yes that is Jai Hind. I am an Ex.Serviceman who was recruited on 10 Apr 1970. During my training my best friend was Bindu Khan Patan from Rajasthan. Many muslims are in Indian Army as senior officers as well in junior position. There are many muslims who want to join in Indian Defence forces.
It’s not that Muslims don’t want to join armed forces and no one labels you a bad Muslim for joining your own countries army, infact dying for your motherland is jihad/sacrifice for muslims. Very few Muslims applying for army because they select muslims very rare, like if your relative was in the armed force, maybe, and on top of that forget about any promotions.
Please read this article by LT GEN SYED ATA HASNAIN https://theprint.in/opinion/joining-indian-army-will-make-you-a-better-muslim/130369/
No safwan, you are mistaken
No one can change Muslims. They are not having country spirit, only religion fanatic.
Islam is mesmerism. Not a good or even a religion.
So only solution is all Muslims of the world put together in one place.
They can’t live with other people.
Investing in terms of friendship, affection etc all are waste to a Muslim.
So my advice is ISLAM IS A TERROR OR EVIL TO MANKIND.
TRY TO AVOID ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY MUSLIM UN WORLD
Mr. Ramesh srinivasan, You cant talk like that about all muslims. What is your opinion about Mr. APJ Abdul kalam.The great scientist and our ex president. What will you say about Abdul Hameed, the indian soldier who destroyed 7 pakistani tanks single handedly in indo pak war. He was honoured with Param veer chakra the highest military award for his bravery. Only mentally ill people can talk like this about muslims. Take treatment.
You are making me chuckle now…!! You are countering his comment by misusing name of a noble soul Mr APJ Abdul kalam. We all know very well that there were thousands of muslims marching on the road behind dead body of a terrorist Yakub menon. Same day was death ceremony of Abdul kalam as well, mostly attended by Hindus. So, please don’t play ‘taqiya’. Don’t fool us. We don’t trust you. In fact we don’t trust any muslim.
With these statements you have proved that you work for the pakistani ISI.
It would be a highly elevated moment when retired Lt. General Hasnain will gather enough courage to Modi to stop “shaming” the Muslims! Subedar Abdul Hameed is not alive, he could have given some good advice to the present day General : it is majoritarian attitude which is to be questioned, Muslims don’t need to prove their Nationalism, General!
Sir, indeed Indian army has a very rich, tradition and culture and joining this great institution will help us in making a better muslim, a better hindu, a better sikh, a better christian and so on. In fact it will help us in making a better Individual to serve not only our nation but the whole World and Societies.
The article is so on point about the “Reservation” part save for the fact that while not either faith-based or even caste-based, the Indian armed forces indeed have a quota for not-so-practical reasons.
Joining the civilian side of the government, with the IAS and the IFS at the apex, would be equally good. However, the basic formulation we should all accept, from our hearts, is that an Indian Muslim – like a Hindu – does not have to “ do “ anything to prove himself in any sense, least of all of being patriotic. It is deeply insidious to suggest that they need to overtly be – and be seen – on India’s side, on something as simple as cheering the Indian cricket team, especially when it beats Pakistan. After seventy years of being together, by choice not compulsion, some things should be taken for granted.
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