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Armed forces need officers who have the quality of leadership ,courage, presence of mind during adverse situation, quick in decision making, intelligence ability to bear hardships and many more and leading from the front. The present day SCs and STs, getting reservation quota everywhere par below qualifying Marks,and enjoying their life in colleges Univrrsities with free scholarship will they have such qualities, as needed for an officer.?
Strange, a man of the rank of Air Commander feels, even after 72 years of freedom that SC/STs come on quota. Mr Dhagat, SC candidates topped IAS list last year & 4 years back. Please change your thinking gear 7 suggest way how they can be brought at par with others. If still, the benefits have not reached SC/STs, its we who are at fault.
Present military needs such General to cope up with burocratic Defence Ministry who are blindfolded towards implementation of OROP and other needs of Jawans and Exservicemen. Salute to Field Marshal SHFJ Maneksha.
About those times a proposal was circulated in the army seeking views of units’ reaction of discontinuing the tradition of presenting silver trophies/mementos by individual officers/units to their officer messes/units. The entire Army rejected the suggestion in one voice. That killed the issue.
The reason for the proposal was to prevent corruption. It was feared then that the silverware could be miappropriated by someone from the units.
That came from someone in the MoD, may be the DM himself.
If you want to increase the count of dalit in all defence, so do one thing kill all general caste people… Now general caste want the reservation. For job.
Totally agree the armed forces need people to be motivated constanly and not live in the dear that their postings and promotion s would be determined not by their work but their castebecoming a baby or an ias officer is one thing but q fauji at any rank should not be dictated by caste politics need generals like Sam today
No politics should be permitted in matters of defence. The caste and religion matters are internal while armed forces have to take on external adversaries who are ruthless and deadly. A small mistake can be catastrophic.
If army doesn’t have reservations then why the application form has columns for SC/ST. Army and Judiciary have nepotism levels which will put politicians to shame.
Where the sc st candidates who appeared for the army recruitment were fit enough and were not recruited just because they were DC STs? In a civil job if they do not perform well it could be compensated/ rectified witj the help of other capable workers. It can not be in the case of the army. One small mistake can cause irreparable damages to the army and the nation. It is common sense that certain things can not be applied every where.
The Media should avoid writing about the Indian Army in general and protect them from the claws of unethical politicians and the general public who may not approbate why the ” Army” does what it does.This will avoid unnecessary media trials by I’ll informed panelists and attendant trauma to our fefense,which has been doing yeoman service to our Country.
Shankar definitely must be belonging to the reserved category who enjoys all benefits though not deserving
Present army chief is a spunk less fellow who can even sell his mother for personal gain
The Defence ministers of that time were totally unaware of the structure of the Armed forces. Having passed middle age and clad in dhoti, they hardly could distinguish between a Major and Major General. Once at Palam while inspecting an Air Craft display, the D.M. J. Ram enquired if the pilots lined up along side were the drivers .
After 1971 war, he suggested a common mess for all categories of armed forces personnel from sepoy to Gen. There is no use blaming them for any faux pas since they were totally ignorant and just filled a post based on their contribution in freedom struggle. The politicians were just evolving and now you could see a Manohar Parikkar or Seetharaman !
Agree with you. Ram should have been kicked in his backside as was shown in the movie Singham.
If FM Manekshaw could tick off Indira Gandhi for being foolhardy and impetuous, then what was Jagjivan Ram in his presence?Sam Bahadur could also tell the then powerful defence secretary that he should not dare ask a colonel to open a window at the Vigyan Bhawan in New Delhi!
Present chief , very undeserving Army chief ,a creation by gen Suhag (mukander ka Sikander),is the one who would go to any extent to harm present Army (make unfit Army)in order to become a governor.On disability pension issue by CBDT to harm army,he has not spoken even a single word in support. Army is very unfortunate to have him as army chief .
Fd Marshal Manekshaw was a soldier who led from the front. As a young Captain he was injured during the World War 2 in Burma, but he was operated upon and survived. He was awarded the Military Cross for gallantry on the battlefield. He is an ideal human being and a true “Bharat Ratna”. We must teach our younger generation to read and follow the life and conduct of this great person. He will inspire the future generations and in ‘nation building’.
One side there was Manekshaw who could reply to the PM and DM.On the other hand we have another Gorkha officer as chief Gen Rawat who want army officers to buy upto 2500 cc top end cars under Rs 12 lakhs.In other words he has denied this facility to army.He can not speak a word for the welfare of the army.Very poor chief who has let down this Great army
Well done Field martial manekshaw, these leaders deserves this kind of reply. They really dont know about armed forces. These kind of leaders had already pushed the country towards devastation by introducing SC/ST reservation in many fields. There should not b any type of reservation in fields such as armed forces, medical, engineering and science.
Field Marshal Manekshaw was luck he had leaders like Ms Gandhi, Jagjivam Ram who did not take such comment seriously. If he made a similar comment he would have been called anti national and government would have some reason to punish him.
Will done Manekshah, really we are proud of such officers
Dont disrespect Great Field Marshal Manekshaw.
Politicians dont fight wars. I hope you know about armed forces. He was knowing his job very well !
In fact DM made a utter hippocrasy regarding his pension.
Always had respect for Jagjivan Ram and always have detested this manekshaw poseur.
What’s there to respect about Jagjivan Ram and what’s there to detest about Manekshaw? You need a brain surgery, Shankar.
Dont disrespect Great Field Marshal Manekshaw.
Politicians dont fight wars. I hope you know about armed forces. He was knowing his job very well !
In fact DM made a utter hippocrasy regarding his pension.
Mr Shankar, it seems you’ve shown your ignorance about FM Sam Manekshaw and matters military, and for that you’re not to be called out…. it’s your ignorance that needs to be called out.
Yes because you are too intellectually handicapped to understand the position of the Field Marshall when he handled the situation.
Btw it’s poser, not poseur, if you had the slightest bit of inclination towards french then you would obviously understand that maneckshaw was a supreme commander, far beyond today’s sub-par officers. And yes if you readers find this aggravating, lol google the word aggravating first.
Your mental health needs to be assessed and treated.
Sam should have been president of india…
Armed forces need officers who have the quality of leadership ,courage, presence of mind during adverse situation, quick in decision making, intelligence ability to bear hardships and many more and leading from the front. The present day SCs and STs, getting reservation quota everywhere par below qualifying Marks,and enjoying their life in colleges Univrrsities with free scholarship will they have such qualities, as needed for an officer.?
Strange, a man of the rank of Air Commander feels, even after 72 years of freedom that SC/STs come on quota. Mr Dhagat, SC candidates topped IAS list last year & 4 years back. Please change your thinking gear 7 suggest way how they can be brought at par with others. If still, the benefits have not reached SC/STs, its we who are at fault.
Present military needs such General to cope up with burocratic Defence Ministry who are blindfolded towards implementation of OROP and other needs of Jawans and Exservicemen. Salute to Field Marshal SHFJ Maneksha.
About those times a proposal was circulated in the army seeking views of units’ reaction of discontinuing the tradition of presenting silver trophies/mementos by individual officers/units to their officer messes/units. The entire Army rejected the suggestion in one voice. That killed the issue.
The reason for the proposal was to prevent corruption. It was feared then that the silverware could be miappropriated by someone from the units.
That came from someone in the MoD, may be the DM himself.
Reservation in the Army … Seriously??
The people in the Army need to be soldiers, warriors ….. And how do you make some one a warrior by reservation….
Gen Manekshaw is an icon … Nobody can match upto him …..
If you want to increase the count of dalit in all defence, so do one thing kill all general caste people… Now general caste want the reservation. For job.
Totally agree the armed forces need people to be motivated constanly and not live in the dear that their postings and promotion s would be determined not by their work but their castebecoming a baby or an ias officer is one thing but q fauji at any rank should not be dictated by caste politics need generals like Sam today
No politics should be permitted in matters of defence. The caste and religion matters are internal while armed forces have to take on external adversaries who are ruthless and deadly. A small mistake can be catastrophic.
If army doesn’t have reservations then why the application form has columns for SC/ST. Army and Judiciary have nepotism levels which will put politicians to shame.
Where the sc st candidates who appeared for the army recruitment were fit enough and were not recruited just because they were DC STs? In a civil job if they do not perform well it could be compensated/ rectified witj the help of other capable workers. It can not be in the case of the army. One small mistake can cause irreparable damages to the army and the nation. It is common sense that certain things can not be applied every where.
The Media should avoid writing about the Indian Army in general and protect them from the claws of unethical politicians and the general public who may not approbate why the ” Army” does what it does.This will avoid unnecessary media trials by I’ll informed panelists and attendant trauma to our fefense,which has been doing yeoman service to our Country.
Shankar definitely must be belonging to the reserved category who enjoys all benefits though not deserving
Present army chief is a spunk less fellow who can even sell his mother for personal gain
The Defence ministers of that time were totally unaware of the structure of the Armed forces. Having passed middle age and clad in dhoti, they hardly could distinguish between a Major and Major General. Once at Palam while inspecting an Air Craft display, the D.M. J. Ram enquired if the pilots lined up along side were the drivers .
After 1971 war, he suggested a common mess for all categories of armed forces personnel from sepoy to Gen. There is no use blaming them for any faux pas since they were totally ignorant and just filled a post based on their contribution in freedom struggle. The politicians were just evolving and now you could see a Manohar Parikkar or Seetharaman !
Shankar is obviously from the SC/ST regiment armed with a broom. Come, let me show you how a gun works!
Agree with you. Ram should have been kicked in his backside as was shown in the movie Singham.
If FM Manekshaw could tick off Indira Gandhi for being foolhardy and impetuous, then what was Jagjivan Ram in his presence?Sam Bahadur could also tell the then powerful defence secretary that he should not dare ask a colonel to open a window at the Vigyan Bhawan in New Delhi!
Present chief , very undeserving Army chief ,a creation by gen Suhag (mukander ka Sikander),is the one who would go to any extent to harm present Army (make unfit Army)in order to become a governor.On disability pension issue by CBDT to harm army,he has not spoken even a single word in support. Army is very unfortunate to have him as army chief .
Fd Marshal Manekshaw was a soldier who led from the front. As a young Captain he was injured during the World War 2 in Burma, but he was operated upon and survived. He was awarded the Military Cross for gallantry on the battlefield. He is an ideal human being and a true “Bharat Ratna”. We must teach our younger generation to read and follow the life and conduct of this great person. He will inspire the future generations and in ‘nation building’.
One side there was Manekshaw who could reply to the PM and DM.On the other hand we have another Gorkha officer as chief Gen Rawat who want army officers to buy upto 2500 cc top end cars under Rs 12 lakhs.In other words he has denied this facility to army.He can not speak a word for the welfare of the army.Very poor chief who has let down this Great army
Well done Field martial manekshaw, these leaders deserves this kind of reply. They really dont know about armed forces. These kind of leaders had already pushed the country towards devastation by introducing SC/ST reservation in many fields. There should not b any type of reservation in fields such as armed forces, medical, engineering and science.
Hands off the Armed Forces. Please do not meddle with it and spare it from dirty caste politics.
Can a General make such a decision AGAINST the Defense Minister in present times?
Field Marshal Manekshaw was luck he had leaders like Ms Gandhi, Jagjivam Ram who did not take such comment seriously. If he made a similar comment he would have been called anti national and government would have some reason to punish him.
Will done Manekshah, really we are proud of such officers
Dont disrespect Great Field Marshal Manekshaw.
Politicians dont fight wars. I hope you know about armed forces. He was knowing his job very well !
In fact DM made a utter hippocrasy regarding his pension.
Always had respect for Jagjivan Ram and always have detested this manekshaw poseur.
What’s there to respect about Jagjivan Ram and what’s there to detest about Manekshaw? You need a brain surgery, Shankar.
Dont disrespect Great Field Marshal Manekshaw.
Politicians dont fight wars. I hope you know about armed forces. He was knowing his job very well !
In fact DM made a utter hippocrasy regarding his pension.
Mr Shankar, it seems you’ve shown your ignorance about FM Sam Manekshaw and matters military, and for that you’re not to be called out…. it’s your ignorance that needs to be called out.
Yes because you are too intellectually handicapped to understand the position of the Field Marshall when he handled the situation.
Btw it’s poser, not poseur, if you had the slightest bit of inclination towards french then you would obviously understand that maneckshaw was a supreme commander, far beyond today’s sub-par officers. And yes if you readers find this aggravating, lol google the word aggravating first.
Your mental health needs to be assessed and treated.