sindh and baluchistan to iran ke ke part the prachin kal me.iraniyan pershiyan saamarajya.sindh aur punjab me iran se migrate logo ne rajya bhi kiya aur setal ho gaye.baad me arab aur turko ne sindh punjab par kabja kiya
Leave aside Sindhis Brahmans the caste system is prevalent in all communities, Superiority and inferiority complexes are very strong. The North Indian Brahmans hesitate to marry South Indian., even traditions are same So the elderly people should take initiatives to not go too entangled, as it will ruin Brahmins as a whole in future
Raha Dahir you mentioned abolished caste system was himself from Brahmin family , his father Chach and this family ruled Sindh & multan for over 600 years . This is the reason perhaps Brahmins were called Maharaj or Miraj or Thakur means ( God) , this title actually was used for Brahmins in Bengal & Bihar also.. later adopted by other castes.
Bhatti are Rajputs from Rajasthan , some consider Bhatia as descendants of Bhatti which could be true in some cases , generally Bhatias in Punjab are shopkeeper community .
Sri Krishna was 9th Avtaar of Bhagwan Vishnu & born in local kings family or May be local Kshatriyas but there were no Rajasthani Rajputs in UP those days .. they were local people .. this is a big misunderstanding.. all of Rajasthan was called Rajputana .. be it Khatriya , jaat or Brahmin
U wrote that bhatias were considered as shri krishna descendents which is very true but u must label them under kshatriyas or rajput which is the v important fact because shri krishna ji was raj putra and bhatias are chandervanshi rajputs who have their kul devi in jeselmer
The Brahmans of Sindh are subdivided into two categories, with Pokharna Brahmans generally considered superior to the Saraswat Brahmans…
Sister article is good one.. But can please delete this sentence.. Dont divide our own commuity on top website by saying Pokharna superior then Saraswats.. This is not acceptable.
Article was good but being a brahmin you divided same community into higher and lower on the bases of the eating food. Pokhrana superior then Saraswat? I mean we belong to same caste and you decideded that Pokhrana is higher then saraswat? SAME!! I am a brahmin and I feel all my brahmins are equal… Being a writer you write like this? I feel you need to rewrite this…
If writer is not deleting this article I will report this article for sure.. How can you write Pokhrana higher then Saraswat?? I object to this article and I feel that sentence should be rewrited.. Keep your that thought to you only and requesting you to delete that sentence or rewrite it…. Else I will report this article for sure.
Sorry to break it to you, but that is a reality of this society. Give up your brahminism and brahmin pride in all ways. Hindu society is caste society, and caste society is about someone being above another, purer than the other. Discard this, urge your family to discard it too.
Can you see what I have wrote.. I am talking about equality and you are explaining me about come out of it.. I dont think like you all.. Cant u see writer is the one who is dividing and giving label of 123 and that too in same caste. May be you are close one to her.. Same to see trying to gain fame by writing bullshit on caste in which you are born.. Real Shame!!!!!!
Show proof and evidence of 3000 years before propagating anything take any reference you seem to like and even Islamic documentation are welcome too forget that even show that it was a thing even in 500 years ago or even 400 years ago with concrete proof
No comments, just say :- jiye Sindhi and jai jhulelal.
Since you have so much hatred towards Hindus and Brahmins in particular, you should seriously consider shifting to a place where your favourite “previously oppressed innocent people” are in majority.
You are justifying genocide against Hindus AND Sikhs in 1947, 1971 and 1990 by simplistic assertions of falsehoods perpetrated by the likes of Barkha Dutt.
Get some fresh air. See a doctor. Be quick.
The writer has mentioned many times in the article the existence of Ashrafiya Muslims. Read ot again perhaps
The more I learn the practices of people across the Subcontinent the more I understand why the invaders simply failed to convince or force the Hindus to convert enmasse. The main reason for this is the practices varied as much as the food we ate and the dress we wore which was based on where you are located. The invaders just could not use the loop holes and weakness they found in one region to make people convert in other regions since these loop holes simply didn’t exist in other places where the practices were different.
As a brahmin, I can confirm that people indeed touch the feet of Brahmin children. I and all the children in my family have experienced this. It is the norm at my native place. Your personal experiences are not the measure of what is and is not a “false propaganda”.
All religions that cherished in Indian subcontinent oneway or other follow the caste system with varied levels of rigidity. Because they are in coexistence with Hinduism for long period and could not escape its influence over a period. In case of some religions, their expansion has been through conversions from Hinduism. The Hindus converted to other religions took the caste system along with them. In AP / Telangana, Chistianity is prevalent in Dalits and upper castes also. But upper caste Chistains don’t mix up with Dalit Christians. They continue their upper caste names along with Christan names. No marital relationships between Dalit Christians and upper caste Christians. This is truth.
These religions don’t have designations based on birth, saying things like someone is impure because of the family they were born to. Not to mention, the problems in the other religions cannot be used as an excuse to deny the brahminical supremacist colonialist violence of 3000years
Nobody tell bhimtas to stay in this religion if they don’t want they leave, why we give up our caste
Such a hatred towards brahmin community aren’t we get treated same as eldians and its all left and Congress propoganda to show brahmins as real villain whereas they are not, I don’t think as a brahmin, my parents or their parents did something wrong or caste based discrimination, cause I have never seen such cases in my family, isn’t it all a marleyan propoganda, just think.
Huh? Maybe, someone could tell me why did anyone bother writing this? Out of nowhere, for no reason you just want to put your culture down? Confused here.
Bharat, I don’t think you understand the intention. However, I am able to relate to the author – as I am one of them Sindhi Pushkarna Brahmins – a very small community now. The way Sindhi Brahmins interact with other communities and religions is very different because of their roots. There is a lot that can be further analyzed and presented – but guessing that the author is very young and not many of our elders are left… it isn’t easy to research much on this topic.
Read the piece “Sindhis are not a caste-free society. My interviews show it is just a false claim” with care. I cannot believe even there can be a claim as such that as Hindus, the Sindhi are a casteless community. This sounds like moonshine. This is like the upper caste Hindus, across India go about claiming caste in India has died in the country, a hogwash, pure and simple.
The Muslim reaction there to the dalits after partition, to my understanding, is the result of maltreatment they suffered from the upper caste Hindus. The dalits and Muslims, before partition, suffered equally at the hands of the upper caste Hindus. After parition, when the Hindus left the areas falling in Pakistan, they turned their attention to the dalit to extract revenge on them, considering them as Hindus . In Bangladesh, large part of the Muslims was descendants of the untouchable converts to Islam, now they exploit and commit atrocities against dalit for vicarious pleasure of harming the Hindus, who just are careless and heartless.
Can educated and enlightened Brahmans write the kind of atrocities they committed against non-Brahmans, Muslims and atone for their sins? Such confessional writings can begin with Kashmiri and Bengali Brahmans. Their exodus from Kashmir and parition of Bengal was mainly the atrocities commuttited by them against the Muslims per se.
Bangladesh, Kashmir and Sindh have been Muslim majority since eons so how would the Brahmins or upper castes committing atrocities on Muslims? Lower castes, obviously were oppressed but claiming Muslims were, is stupid. Rather non-Muslims were being oppressed under the Islamic invaders. They were forced to convert and sometimes killed if they refused to. And the way you are putting it seems like you are justifying what is/was happening to Hindus in Bangladesh or Sindh. Just because Hindus were mistreated under Islamic rulers doesn’t justify the discrimination against Muslims in modern India in any way. And in Bangladesh Hindus irrespective of their caste are discriminated against.
The people of India are slaves on mental turf, Dalits believe a lie to be true and a Brahmin is engaged in making a lie a truth
So maltreatment of all Brahmins is justified because of their actions I suppose?
You can try and visit Majnu ka tila refugee camp in Delhi sometime. There are more than 2000 Hindu Dalit Sindhis living there in a make-shift camp for about 10+ years now. Ask them and their elders and they maybe able to give you a trustworthy version.
It is easy to question on assumptions… but when you have the Dalit refugees right here who have fled oppression – you can probably get them best of your support as well!!!
No body touches 10!years old boys feet just because he belongs to Bramhin caste , Hindus touch the feet of a priest of a temple out of respect not because of his caste , Hindus donot touch or pay respect to a bramhin who donot participate in Hindu rituals or priesthood in a Temple , so dear leftist and secularist stop spreading false propaganda.
Mr Reddy sir… The author is a girl. She is talking about the Sindhi Pushkarna and Sarasvat Brahmins who and the Sindhi Hindus… do actually treat little girls as avatar of goddess shakti. This actually happens till date. I was surprised to read this piece as ours is a very very small and shrinking community.
As a brahmin, I can confirm that people indeed touch the feet of Brahmin children. I and all the children in my family have experienced this as per the norm at my native place. Your own experiences are not the measure of what is and is not a “false propaganda”.
As a brahmin, I can confirm that people indeed touch the feet of Brahmin children. It is the norm at my native place. Your personal experiences are not the measure of what is and is not a “false propaganda”.
sindh and baluchistan to iran ke ke part the prachin kal me.iraniyan pershiyan saamarajya.sindh aur punjab me iran se migrate logo ne rajya bhi kiya aur setal ho gaye.baad me arab aur turko ne sindh punjab par kabja kiya
Leave aside Sindhis Brahmans the caste system is prevalent in all communities, Superiority and inferiority complexes are very strong. The North Indian Brahmans hesitate to marry South Indian., even traditions are same So the elderly people should take initiatives to not go too entangled, as it will ruin Brahmins as a whole in future
Raha Dahir you mentioned abolished caste system was himself from Brahmin family , his father Chach and this family ruled Sindh & multan for over 600 years . This is the reason perhaps Brahmins were called Maharaj or Miraj or Thakur means ( God) , this title actually was used for Brahmins in Bengal & Bihar also.. later adopted by other castes.
Bhatti are Rajputs from Rajasthan , some consider Bhatia as descendants of Bhatti which could be true in some cases , generally Bhatias in Punjab are shopkeeper community .
Sri Krishna was 9th Avtaar of Bhagwan Vishnu & born in local kings family or May be local Kshatriyas but there were no Rajasthani Rajputs in UP those days .. they were local people .. this is a big misunderstanding.. all of Rajasthan was called Rajputana .. be it Khatriya , jaat or Brahmin
U wrote that bhatias were considered as shri krishna descendents which is very true but u must label them under kshatriyas or rajput which is the v important fact because shri krishna ji was raj putra and bhatias are chandervanshi rajputs who have their kul devi in jeselmer
The Brahmans of Sindh are subdivided into two categories, with Pokharna Brahmans generally considered superior to the Saraswat Brahmans…
Sister article is good one.. But can please delete this sentence.. Dont divide our own commuity on top website by saying Pokharna superior then Saraswats.. This is not acceptable.
Article was good but being a brahmin you divided same community into higher and lower on the bases of the eating food. Pokhrana superior then Saraswat? I mean we belong to same caste and you decideded that Pokhrana is higher then saraswat? SAME!! I am a brahmin and I feel all my brahmins are equal… Being a writer you write like this? I feel you need to rewrite this…
If writer is not deleting this article I will report this article for sure.. How can you write Pokhrana higher then Saraswat?? I object to this article and I feel that sentence should be rewrited.. Keep your that thought to you only and requesting you to delete that sentence or rewrite it…. Else I will report this article for sure.
Sorry to break it to you, but that is a reality of this society. Give up your brahminism and brahmin pride in all ways. Hindu society is caste society, and caste society is about someone being above another, purer than the other. Discard this, urge your family to discard it too.
Can you see what I have wrote.. I am talking about equality and you are explaining me about come out of it.. I dont think like you all.. Cant u see writer is the one who is dividing and giving label of 123 and that too in same caste. May be you are close one to her.. Same to see trying to gain fame by writing bullshit on caste in which you are born.. Real Shame!!!!!!
Show proof and evidence of 3000 years before propagating anything take any reference you seem to like and even Islamic documentation are welcome too forget that even show that it was a thing even in 500 years ago or even 400 years ago with concrete proof
No comments, just say :- jiye Sindhi and jai jhulelal.
Since you have so much hatred towards Hindus and Brahmins in particular, you should seriously consider shifting to a place where your favourite “previously oppressed innocent people” are in majority.
You are justifying genocide against Hindus AND Sikhs in 1947, 1971 and 1990 by simplistic assertions of falsehoods perpetrated by the likes of Barkha Dutt.
Get some fresh air. See a doctor. Be quick.
Why doesnt your interview ever show that Islam is also not caste free?
The writer has mentioned many times in the article the existence of Ashrafiya Muslims. Read ot again perhaps
The more I learn the practices of people across the Subcontinent the more I understand why the invaders simply failed to convince or force the Hindus to convert enmasse. The main reason for this is the practices varied as much as the food we ate and the dress we wore which was based on where you are located. The invaders just could not use the loop holes and weakness they found in one region to make people convert in other regions since these loop holes simply didn’t exist in other places where the practices were different.
As a brahmin, I can confirm that people indeed touch the feet of Brahmin children. I and all the children in my family have experienced this. It is the norm at my native place. Your personal experiences are not the measure of what is and is not a “false propaganda”.
All religions that cherished in Indian subcontinent oneway or other follow the caste system with varied levels of rigidity. Because they are in coexistence with Hinduism for long period and could not escape its influence over a period. In case of some religions, their expansion has been through conversions from Hinduism. The Hindus converted to other religions took the caste system along with them. In AP / Telangana, Chistianity is prevalent in Dalits and upper castes also. But upper caste Chistains don’t mix up with Dalit Christians. They continue their upper caste names along with Christan names. No marital relationships between Dalit Christians and upper caste Christians. This is truth.
Certainly the true picture of caste system in India is much high
Which religion does not have divisions? Are there not divisions or sects, ie synonyms for caste, in Islam and Christianity?
These religions don’t have designations based on birth, saying things like someone is impure because of the family they were born to. Not to mention, the problems in the other religions cannot be used as an excuse to deny the brahminical supremacist colonialist violence of 3000years
Nobody tell bhimtas to stay in this religion if they don’t want they leave, why we give up our caste
Such a hatred towards brahmin community aren’t we get treated same as eldians and its all left and Congress propoganda to show brahmins as real villain whereas they are not, I don’t think as a brahmin, my parents or their parents did something wrong or caste based discrimination, cause I have never seen such cases in my family, isn’t it all a marleyan propoganda, just think.
Please stop writing these news if you really want indians to have peace of mind…other wise just bring us a nuke…if that makes you happy
Huh? Maybe, someone could tell me why did anyone bother writing this? Out of nowhere, for no reason you just want to put your culture down? Confused here.
Bharat, I don’t think you understand the intention. However, I am able to relate to the author – as I am one of them Sindhi Pushkarna Brahmins – a very small community now. The way Sindhi Brahmins interact with other communities and religions is very different because of their roots. There is a lot that can be further analyzed and presented – but guessing that the author is very young and not many of our elders are left… it isn’t easy to research much on this topic.
Read the piece “Sindhis are not a caste-free society. My interviews show it is just a false claim” with care. I cannot believe even there can be a claim as such that as Hindus, the Sindhi are a casteless community. This sounds like moonshine. This is like the upper caste Hindus, across India go about claiming caste in India has died in the country, a hogwash, pure and simple.
The Muslim reaction there to the dalits after partition, to my understanding, is the result of maltreatment they suffered from the upper caste Hindus. The dalits and Muslims, before partition, suffered equally at the hands of the upper caste Hindus. After parition, when the Hindus left the areas falling in Pakistan, they turned their attention to the dalit to extract revenge on them, considering them as Hindus . In Bangladesh, large part of the Muslims was descendants of the untouchable converts to Islam, now they exploit and commit atrocities against dalit for vicarious pleasure of harming the Hindus, who just are careless and heartless.
Can educated and enlightened Brahmans write the kind of atrocities they committed against non-Brahmans, Muslims and atone for their sins? Such confessional writings can begin with Kashmiri and Bengali Brahmans. Their exodus from Kashmir and parition of Bengal was mainly the atrocities commuttited by them against the Muslims per se.
Bangladesh, Kashmir and Sindh have been Muslim majority since eons so how would the Brahmins or upper castes committing atrocities on Muslims? Lower castes, obviously were oppressed but claiming Muslims were, is stupid. Rather non-Muslims were being oppressed under the Islamic invaders. They were forced to convert and sometimes killed if they refused to. And the way you are putting it seems like you are justifying what is/was happening to Hindus in Bangladesh or Sindh. Just because Hindus were mistreated under Islamic rulers doesn’t justify the discrimination against Muslims in modern India in any way. And in Bangladesh Hindus irrespective of their caste are discriminated against.
The people of India are slaves on mental turf, Dalits believe a lie to be true and a Brahmin is engaged in making a lie a truth
So maltreatment of all Brahmins is justified because of their actions I suppose?
You can try and visit Majnu ka tila refugee camp in Delhi sometime. There are more than 2000 Hindu Dalit Sindhis living there in a make-shift camp for about 10+ years now. Ask them and their elders and they maybe able to give you a trustworthy version.
It is easy to question on assumptions… but when you have the Dalit refugees right here who have fled oppression – you can probably get them best of your support as well!!!
No body touches 10!years old boys feet just because he belongs to Bramhin caste , Hindus touch the feet of a priest of a temple out of respect not because of his caste , Hindus donot touch or pay respect to a bramhin who donot participate in Hindu rituals or priesthood in a Temple , so dear leftist and secularist stop spreading false propaganda.
Mr Reddy sir… The author is a girl. She is talking about the Sindhi Pushkarna and Sarasvat Brahmins who and the Sindhi Hindus… do actually treat little girls as avatar of goddess shakti. This actually happens till date. I was surprised to read this piece as ours is a very very small and shrinking community.
As a brahmin, I can confirm that people indeed touch the feet of Brahmin children. I and all the children in my family have experienced this as per the norm at my native place. Your own experiences are not the measure of what is and is not a “false propaganda”.
As a brahmin, I can confirm that people indeed touch the feet of Brahmin children. It is the norm at my native place. Your personal experiences are not the measure of what is and is not a “false propaganda”.