Apart from dubious contents, what is even more jarinng is the the atrocious language. For example. use of word ‘Researches’, Then usint inimical when the crrect wordl was ironical. He also talks about Pathan and Mughals., whereas most books mention Arabs, Turks, Afgans and central Asian ruleers. Print is in bad shape as far as Islam scholarship is concerned. It seems to have remained at medival era.
Very entertaining text, enjoyed a lot,
Manipulation of numbers (maths), was considered the work of devil. And the concept of devil is very scientific in the eyes of the print.
Article is bit confusing. Religion is itself in conflict with science to be honest. Religion is based on faith or a belief system (which has no evidence. Beliefs may be contradictory to one another) . Every religion has some belief system or a way of life (some may have some reasoning). Its OK to have a belief system as long as its not political and kept as personal. Science is based on study, evidence and reasoning, its not based on myths, mythology and legend. There is nothing like Hindu science or Christian science or Muslim or jewish science or engg or technology. Its just Science or engg. Either hindu or muslim or Christian has to agree on newtons law of motion or Einstein’s theory, its a not a belief its science. Don’t add prefix or suffix to science
Jews 0.6 percentage : 22 Nobel
Word 0, calculus, trigonometry and surgery given by indians before muslim religion started . So the question remains, what are you talking about ?
You can give some ref of historians of any part of the world to put light on the contribution of Muslims to education and science buy you can’t say that such knowledge was not existing before the advent of Islam. Historians are not the one who are omniscient. For your kind information around 5000 BC people of Indus Valley civilization (Jain and Hindus were there as per the idol and seals found) were much more prosperous, knowledgeable, had almost zero Gender inequality, were doing international trade via lothal port. So in but shell u can praise the contribution of one entity but not by giving others zero credit. Hope You also about the planetary system was known to Hindus and Jain when there were no religion on the earth surface thousands of years ago.
History of science goes back about thousands of years. First scienve was connected with religion. Priests and wise men in Egypt and Mesopotanien or China have searched in the fields of astrology and others.
Sinve the greek Anique Science has been connected to philosophy. At this time they started to work together on knowledge and to teach it. From the greek philosophy the principles of logical thinking are coming, whichnis base of scientifical methods.
I agree that there were many muslim scientists, but younhabe forgotten many others before of them.
Other our beloved Abdul Kalam, no one noteworthy in that community ever been part of main stream in India. On an average they are below in education standards and most of them either look for opportunities in middle east or take up work as mechanical like plumber, automobile or AC mechanic. Few became politicians by fooling tgeir own people. What type of education standards tge author in bragging about?
May be, but why have Muslims degenerated into a lot of fanatical, jihadist terrorism-addicted, anti-science and anti–knowledge crouws is a question they all need to introspect and act upon!
This is how the story ends:
Then they discovered that Al’lah had promised them ultimate knowledge and that knowledge was in the Koran. It took a few hundred years for Muslim lands to go under. But eventually Koranic knowledge took over. And anyone who disagreed was put to sword.
Science and technology are secular topics. Attempts to misapporopriate these under islam is part of atypical Abharmic faith’s core tenants:
– exclusivist (you get salvation only if you follow my faith and my prophet, all the rest will burn in hell for eternity),
– supremacist (only my prophet and faith is the valid path,, rest are not and they will go to hell),
This makes Abrahmic (Islam and Christianity)faith’s core ideology bigoted, discriminatory and intolerant towards other religions.
Islam is not Quran alone. Islam is comprised of (a) Quran, (b) Hadith, (c) Sharia, (d) madhab or subsect/denomination within islam (shia vs sunni, within sunni then barelvi vs ahal e hadith vs taghlibi vs deobandi, etc who all call each other “blasphemous” kafirs and hence wajib ul qatal (deserving to be murdered/beheaded)., Muslims tend to use supremacist words “conquest of India” (dar ul herb and gazwa e hind verses of quran and hadiths of islam),. islam started among primitive barbaric tribe of desert which did not have “high culture” of its own. As Islam spread through jihad conquests which entailed if nonmuslims is defeated by muslism then nonmuslim/kafir was given two choice, convert to islam or be killed, those who saved their life by converting to islam are now brainwashed by islamists with lies that this is called “peaceful” conversion by “choice”, this conversion by coersion with realistic threat of death is no peaceful conversion and not a conversion by “voluntary free will”.
islamists won thsoe wars because early Islam did not have high culture, so it lacked humanist ethics of warfare e.g. Hindu had high culture and they had 4000yrs old vedic era humanist rules of war which they followed unti british raj which was do not atatck fallen enemy, dont kill surrendered enemy, do not attack after sunset, do not attack from flanks or behind, etc. Those ancient hindu rules of warfare are similar to modern humanist rules of warfare mandated by United Nations., in some cases hindu rules were way more humanist and better than UN rules Whereas islam lacks these ethics and due to barbarism they won the wars against high cultures who followed humanist rules of warfare.
Once kafirs were converted, Islamist misappropriated their culture, science, technology. Due to supremacism (all human are not equal, onyl muslims are equal among themselevs and even among muslims women are kind of slaves as islam is manifestation of barbaric low culture of desert nomnds of arabia, rest of nonmuslims can either be subjugated as lower status Dhimmis, or given so called “peaceful” choice to be killed or convert under fear of being beheaded.
This article is nothing but standard Islamist Supremacist agenda of misappropriating other cultures and nations science and technology, and then claiming these secular aspects to be product of Islam. Disgusting.
This writer stands exposed as an above ground Islamist Supremacist propagandist waging SIXTH GENERATION WARFARE on India. beware of such people. Print and Shekhar Gupta, you are a traitor of the nation and humanity by allowing such supremacists a platform.
Lies lies great lies. I am from Hyderabad and my parents faced the brutality’s of Nizam and Razakars , The Deccan Muslim Rulers never allowed any form of education in local language that is Telugu , Muslim rulers used to cut teachers hands , if they come to know about running a school in Telugu medium, only education was allowed in Persia and Urdu , that’s why Telangana moment started after 1947 , because the exams for government jobs were conducted in Telugu & English and No , not a single Hindu in Deccan Nizam knows how to read or write Telugu or English, they only know Parsi or Urdu and all the jobs went to Andhra coastal regions, who were under British rule , please stop white washing history.
So were ACHARYA SUSHRUT – Founder of Surgery , ACHARYA ARYABHATTA – who gave us MATHS , ACHARYA BHASKAR – Founder of ALEBRA all Muslims , Were the Nalanda , Taxila , Sharda Peeths not GREAT UNIVERSITIES , did Muslims BUILD them or Destroy Them and India had Magnificient Monuments , Cities 8000 Years Back , MOHENJO DARRO , HARAPPA , PATALIPUTRA who Build Them, ARTS are Haram , we had KAMSUTRA , NATYA SHASTRA , Magnificient Epics , Dramas , Come on Guys KITNA JHOOT BOLEOGE
No doubt, scores of Muslim scholars between 9th century to about 15th century were responsible for distributing Indian texts on science and medicine to west through their translations. Similarly, they also translated greek texts to Latin, which in fact commenced renaisance in Europe. But, the point is that while doing this commendable work, they were not inspired by Koran or Islamic tenets. In fact, people like Ibn Senna (Avisenna), and Ibna Rushd(Averoes) were agnostic philosophers. They were not examining whether the work done by them was in compliance with Koran and Hadith. They simply did this work for love of knowledge. The moral of the story is, have open mind, don’t be bigoted.
The contribution of Muslims to science and overall knowledge from the 7th to 12th centuries was principally to translate, preserve and build upon the knowledge gathered in the Greco Roman world (i.e. Europe, which itself was going through the dark ages).
Since then, the disdain for modern education, forget science, is now universal among Muslims. This is worthy of scholarly investigation.
“In a city of blind, one eyed man is the king”. Dear sir, in the time between 10th to 13th century, all the societies in the world were stagnant in ideas except Islam. This was because it came out of age old traditional shackle of class, hierarchies etc. This caused many new talent to come up and helped in new idea generation.
Coming to 20th century, Islam is stagnant in 13th century. This is because there is no new thinking apart from viewing all the new things from the angle of Quran and Islam.
As information on scientific knowledge spreads, faith will subside making way for Advaita Vedanta (Study of Consciousness).
Apart from dubious contents, what is even more jarinng is the the atrocious language. For example. use of word ‘Researches’, Then usint inimical when the crrect wordl was ironical. He also talks about Pathan and Mughals., whereas most books mention Arabs, Turks, Afgans and central Asian ruleers. Print is in bad shape as far as Islam scholarship is concerned. It seems to have remained at medival era.
Whom are u trying to brainwash, we know Muslims contribution in Terrorism is close to 100 percentage, when will you write an article on same?
Very entertaining text, enjoyed a lot,
Manipulation of numbers (maths), was considered the work of devil. And the concept of devil is very scientific in the eyes of the print.
Article is bit confusing. Religion is itself in conflict with science to be honest. Religion is based on faith or a belief system (which has no evidence. Beliefs may be contradictory to one another) . Every religion has some belief system or a way of life (some may have some reasoning). Its OK to have a belief system as long as its not political and kept as personal. Science is based on study, evidence and reasoning, its not based on myths, mythology and legend. There is nothing like Hindu science or Christian science or Muslim or jewish science or engg or technology. Its just Science or engg. Either hindu or muslim or Christian has to agree on newtons law of motion or Einstein’s theory, its a not a belief its science. Don’t add prefix or suffix to science
Enjoyed. Very funny???
Is this story a joke, seems to be miles away from the facts. The contibution of Muslims for Science and Technology was ZERO.
Jews 0.6 percentage : 22 Nobel
Word 0, calculus, trigonometry and surgery given by indians before muslim religion started . So the question remains, what are you talking about ?
Muslims remains in the same state as it once was — enamoured of the past, resentful of the present, and fearful of the future.
Nice try ??? Muslims and Science?.
You can give some ref of historians of any part of the world to put light on the contribution of Muslims to education and science buy you can’t say that such knowledge was not existing before the advent of Islam. Historians are not the one who are omniscient. For your kind information around 5000 BC people of Indus Valley civilization (Jain and Hindus were there as per the idol and seals found) were much more prosperous, knowledgeable, had almost zero Gender inequality, were doing international trade via lothal port. So in but shell u can praise the contribution of one entity but not by giving others zero credit. Hope You also about the planetary system was known to Hindus and Jain when there were no religion on the earth surface thousands of years ago.
History of science goes back about thousands of years. First scienve was connected with religion. Priests and wise men in Egypt and Mesopotanien or China have searched in the fields of astrology and others.
Sinve the greek Anique Science has been connected to philosophy. At this time they started to work together on knowledge and to teach it. From the greek philosophy the principles of logical thinking are coming, whichnis base of scientifical methods.
I agree that there were many muslim scientists, but younhabe forgotten many others before of them.
Serioulsly now? The data on the ground contradicts the thesis and the conclusions of this article. Should we not use some common sense?
Bhai kahana kya chahte ho?
Other our beloved Abdul Kalam, no one noteworthy in that community ever been part of main stream in India. On an average they are below in education standards and most of them either look for opportunities in middle east or take up work as mechanical like plumber, automobile or AC mechanic. Few became politicians by fooling tgeir own people. What type of education standards tge author in bragging about?
May be, but why have Muslims degenerated into a lot of fanatical, jihadist terrorism-addicted, anti-science and anti–knowledge crouws is a question they all need to introspect and act upon!
This is how the story ends:
Then they discovered that Al’lah had promised them ultimate knowledge and that knowledge was in the Koran. It took a few hundred years for Muslim lands to go under. But eventually Koranic knowledge took over. And anyone who disagreed was put to sword.
Either you mind question everything or your mind believe everything…
.
1.8 billion now love to believe suspending their brain function
.
Naturally..
Where does print get such idiotic and useless articles and what’s the idea behind publishing this.
Science and technology are secular topics. Attempts to misapporopriate these under islam is part of atypical Abharmic faith’s core tenants:
– exclusivist (you get salvation only if you follow my faith and my prophet, all the rest will burn in hell for eternity),
– supremacist (only my prophet and faith is the valid path,, rest are not and they will go to hell),
This makes Abrahmic (Islam and Christianity)faith’s core ideology bigoted, discriminatory and intolerant towards other religions.
Islam is not Quran alone. Islam is comprised of (a) Quran, (b) Hadith, (c) Sharia, (d) madhab or subsect/denomination within islam (shia vs sunni, within sunni then barelvi vs ahal e hadith vs taghlibi vs deobandi, etc who all call each other “blasphemous” kafirs and hence wajib ul qatal (deserving to be murdered/beheaded)., Muslims tend to use supremacist words “conquest of India” (dar ul herb and gazwa e hind verses of quran and hadiths of islam),. islam started among primitive barbaric tribe of desert which did not have “high culture” of its own. As Islam spread through jihad conquests which entailed if nonmuslims is defeated by muslism then nonmuslim/kafir was given two choice, convert to islam or be killed, those who saved their life by converting to islam are now brainwashed by islamists with lies that this is called “peaceful” conversion by “choice”, this conversion by coersion with realistic threat of death is no peaceful conversion and not a conversion by “voluntary free will”.
islamists won thsoe wars because early Islam did not have high culture, so it lacked humanist ethics of warfare e.g. Hindu had high culture and they had 4000yrs old vedic era humanist rules of war which they followed unti british raj which was do not atatck fallen enemy, dont kill surrendered enemy, do not attack after sunset, do not attack from flanks or behind, etc. Those ancient hindu rules of warfare are similar to modern humanist rules of warfare mandated by United Nations., in some cases hindu rules were way more humanist and better than UN rules Whereas islam lacks these ethics and due to barbarism they won the wars against high cultures who followed humanist rules of warfare.
Once kafirs were converted, Islamist misappropriated their culture, science, technology. Due to supremacism (all human are not equal, onyl muslims are equal among themselevs and even among muslims women are kind of slaves as islam is manifestation of barbaric low culture of desert nomnds of arabia, rest of nonmuslims can either be subjugated as lower status Dhimmis, or given so called “peaceful” choice to be killed or convert under fear of being beheaded.
This article is nothing but standard Islamist Supremacist agenda of misappropriating other cultures and nations science and technology, and then claiming these secular aspects to be product of Islam. Disgusting.
This writer stands exposed as an above ground Islamist Supremacist propagandist waging SIXTH GENERATION WARFARE on India. beware of such people. Print and Shekhar Gupta, you are a traitor of the nation and humanity by allowing such supremacists a platform.
Lies lies great lies. I am from Hyderabad and my parents faced the brutality’s of Nizam and Razakars , The Deccan Muslim Rulers never allowed any form of education in local language that is Telugu , Muslim rulers used to cut teachers hands , if they come to know about running a school in Telugu medium, only education was allowed in Persia and Urdu , that’s why Telangana moment started after 1947 , because the exams for government jobs were conducted in Telugu & English and No , not a single Hindu in Deccan Nizam knows how to read or write Telugu or English, they only know Parsi or Urdu and all the jobs went to Andhra coastal regions, who were under British rule , please stop white washing history.
Inspite of fifty muslim country, hardly you will find any muslim scientists who received Nobel prize.
So were ACHARYA SUSHRUT – Founder of Surgery , ACHARYA ARYABHATTA – who gave us MATHS , ACHARYA BHASKAR – Founder of ALEBRA all Muslims , Were the Nalanda , Taxila , Sharda Peeths not GREAT UNIVERSITIES , did Muslims BUILD them or Destroy Them and India had Magnificient Monuments , Cities 8000 Years Back , MOHENJO DARRO , HARAPPA , PATALIPUTRA who Build Them, ARTS are Haram , we had KAMSUTRA , NATYA SHASTRA , Magnificient Epics , Dramas , Come on Guys KITNA JHOOT BOLEOGE
No doubt, scores of Muslim scholars between 9th century to about 15th century were responsible for distributing Indian texts on science and medicine to west through their translations. Similarly, they also translated greek texts to Latin, which in fact commenced renaisance in Europe. But, the point is that while doing this commendable work, they were not inspired by Koran or Islamic tenets. In fact, people like Ibn Senna (Avisenna), and Ibna Rushd(Averoes) were agnostic philosophers. They were not examining whether the work done by them was in compliance with Koran and Hadith. They simply did this work for love of knowledge. The moral of the story is, have open mind, don’t be bigoted.
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Forget the illiterate ones even the educated muslims cannot tolerate any criticism.
The contribution of Muslims to science and overall knowledge from the 7th to 12th centuries was principally to translate, preserve and build upon the knowledge gathered in the Greco Roman world (i.e. Europe, which itself was going through the dark ages).
Since then, the disdain for modern education, forget science, is now universal among Muslims. This is worthy of scholarly investigation.
“In a city of blind, one eyed man is the king”. Dear sir, in the time between 10th to 13th century, all the societies in the world were stagnant in ideas except Islam. This was because it came out of age old traditional shackle of class, hierarchies etc. This caused many new talent to come up and helped in new idea generation.
Coming to 20th century, Islam is stagnant in 13th century. This is because there is no new thinking apart from viewing all the new things from the angle of Quran and Islam.
As information on scientific knowledge spreads, faith will subside making way for Advaita Vedanta (Study of Consciousness).