I am sincerely hoping that the writer of this article consults a subject-matter expert and not a mediocre when facing a crisis, be it medical, legal, financial etc. A person getting a degree based on caste reservation or any other form of reservation (the most recent case “cheap gimmick played by Arvind Kejriwal to woo female voters”….) CAN NEVER KNOW THE VALUE OF KNOWLEDGE. All Bharatiyas must unanimously vow to eradicate reservation of ANY kinds, not even in case of women, kids or oldies. In fact, a healthy and evolved society is one where individuals are helped only if they are either genuinely needy or truly deserving.
The situation inside government institutions is still pathetic in our nation because of rampant reservations. For instance, in our government hospitals, at all levels, we come across few or many individuals, who just have no idea about why they come to work, no skills, no expertise. Consequently the blooming of numerous private ones. Not even a single person, earning sufficiently well, dares to take services of a government hospital when faced with any medical problem. The same is the case with government schools, public sector undertakings, government financial institutions etc etc. They all offer such disgusting and frustrating and un-professional services. Reason for this dismal situation is -RESERVATION.
अगर आपको दलित पर हुए अत्याचार पर समाज को दिखाना है तो सबसे ज्यादा अत्याचार मुग़ल आक्रंताओ ने किये थे और वो भी केवल दलितों पर नहीं सभी हिन्दुओ पर किये थे। लेकिन उनको तो शांतिदूत दिखाने का ठेका मिला हुआ है। अपने सच्चाई से क्या लेना देना है। आपको तो ब्राह्मण से परेशानी है ना। वैसे भी फिल्मो ने समाज को दिया ही क्या है ? फूहड़ता और नग्नता से सिवाय ??
Mandal sir has rightly pointed out.bcz,wat d author is talking about may b jus seen in comments.how ignorant &privileged people behave.one is writing dat writer has passed clg long ago,so may b dat time discrimination was prevailing .bt nw scenario is changed.while another is writing dat due to reservation if ur loses one seat,ur comes to know about caste crimination.how it is affecting.upper caste may ignore caste bt he comes to know about caste wen faces reservation.bt lower castes comes to know about it frm very childhood through social behaviour.& movie is yet to come ,so we cant analyze fully.bt election result has come&portfolios also allocated.so,analysis show that lower castes rose above caste & upper castes kept itself intact to its favourite party.bt jus aftr result,upper castes ruled in d allocation of portfolios.so,shed ur naive image & understand reality.
How stupid someone can be is evident from the piece of article this writer has wrote. While he could not understand the subtle message beneath Ayushman Khuranna’s dialogue asking “Which caste do I belong to” and angrily shouts on his colleagues who tries to persuade him with the fact that how they belong to other lower castes and how he is an upper caste brahmin. The character played by Ayushmann seems really angry that how police officers or human being say for that matter should use his/her caste identify! He angrily shouts on them that what is going on! And this writer completely mistakens this for Ayushmann not knowing his own caste and being ignorant towards caste “monster”. Such is his level of understanding!
The second point here I want to raise is that although it’s a very valid point of discussion that a movie showing caste arithmetic should have at least main characters played by lower caste peoples.
But you just cannot overrule it if it is not happening.
You want to eradicate caste, what is the problem if an upper caste plays protagonist to fight caste menace!
Instead it sends out a strong message in our urban public, who think casteism is not in existance in today’s century. You want caste to be eradicated then let it happen, why demand certain people playing it only, why reaffirm the casteist identity!
The most important point about the rural caste structure. While the writer rightly argues that it only shows rural people practising caste, and not urban, but if a story is set in rural, how do you expect a director to show caste discrimination in both rural and urban at the same time!
If he would have made a movie on caste discrimination entirely on urban background, then the scope for discussion would have remained.
Our film industry slowly but effectively taking up different issues to show through the film medium. They will make certain mistakes earlier, but we have a long way to go. They will come up with it I guess.
लेख में लेखक का ब्राहमण नायक के प्रति पूर्वाग्रह स्पष्ठ दिखाई देता है। लेखक के मन मे अंतर्निहित धारणा है कि दलित उत्थान के कार्य सिर्फ दलित ही कर सकते है उसके अलावा कोई करें तो वो ढोंगी है । इस मूवी का नायक ब्राह्मण है सिर्फ इसी आधार पर मूवी में जातिवादी मानसिकता ढूंढ लेना स्पष्ट दर्शाता है कि ब्राह्मण जाति के लोगो के प्रति कितनी घृणा भारी है आपके मन मे । सच का सामना करिये ओर वास्तविकता के धरातल पर आकर देखिये की जातिवादी मानसिकता पैदा करवाने वाले आप ही लोग है जो व्यक्ति के कर्म और भावनाओं के बाजय उसको जाती देखकर उसका विरोध करना शुरू कर देते है। जातिवादी मानसिकता को छोड़कर निष्पक्ष पत्रकारिता करिये ।
मंडल सर ने कुछ ही पन्नों में चलचित्र दुनिया का कान सीधे शब्दों से पकड़ लिया है , कलाकार और निर्देशक की बाजीगरी 3 घंटे तक अच्छी लग सकती है मगर धरातल पर सवर्णों के कुकर्म और भी बढ़ जाएंगे।
उनका यह लेख सिर्फ इस फिल्म के लिए नहीं और भी इसी प्रकार की फिल्मों , धारावाहिको पर भी लागू होता है।
Mandal is one office the greatest authority of caste system in India. He is the Doctor who can diagnose the disease and knows how to treat and cure. He is doing a great service to the nation.
Agree truly with the above comments
We should be glad first that this issue is being addressed, criticise second
Also there is discrimination at university level because the real problems at the village level faced by the so called lower caste people stay alien to the urban student body. It is necessary to address this issue wherein the village brahmin and thakur atrocize the poor and the dalit. Only then shall the urban youth realise how imp reservation is and how imp is it to not discriminate and consider their opportunities stolen.
To point 1, “tumhi ne dard diya…” the article seems to insinuate present day upper caste youth is responsible for current day plight of backward classes.If it were a backward caste protagonist, the article would have probably said upper castes are ignorant/don’t even want to support the lower castes.
To point 2, the author has long passed out of university maybe .I can assure , no urban youth who has ever lost a seat to the reserved candidate, can ever forget caste.
Agree with the third.Agree with fourth as well although lack of representation needs to be solved by providing better amenities, facilities and provision of free books to truly backward rather than free seats.
Upper castes are truly privileged.
But the article resents the privilege the upper castes enjoy when our focus should be to ensure that lower castes get the same privileges, no matter via a lower caste person, upper caste person or even a foreigner.
In a nutshell, it is disheartening to see people analysing caste of the filmmaker , resenting upper castes for their privilege instead of applauding for spreading the true situation faced by our brothers & sisters to the ignorant privileged upper caste.
The movie has not yet been released,so we can’t give such a detailed overview about it
There are certain points from this article that according to my personal opinion needs a review.
1.In points 1 and 3 ,the author highlights the issue of the protagonist being an upper caste Brahmin .Well, the case of an uppercaste Brahmin standing firmly by the constitution against caste discrimination, sends a message that not all upper castes are anti dalit or casteist It shows that despite the differences whether in caste or creed ,everyone should be united against such atrocities. It also tries to tell us that caste oppression, honor killings etc. is not the problem of a certain community,but of our nation as a whole.
2.The scene in the trailer , where Ayushmann enquires about his caste and that of his fellow officers , does not mean that the protagonist is unaware of his caste, But Anubhav Sinha uses this scene to show his audience how deeply the caste system is rooted in the minds of the public and also how deeply we are divided on the basis of that..
3. Even when the reservation system is beneficial to the lower castes, In many areas it is seen by the upper castes and the generals as something used by the lower castes to ‘steal’ their opportunities in the academic as well as in the professional arena . And reservations will have little use unless we solve the grassroot problem i.e, the mentality of the people ,unless the mindset is set right, reservation will actually be a tool to divide the public further. Discrimination and acts of hate towards the lower sections will continue to go on if we continue to concentrate on eradicating caste discrimination by reservations rather than by eradicating the caste system itself.
The author has raised the issue of urban casteism and Bahujan-Harijan comparison in a commendable manner,But I strongly disagree with the phrase ‘A movie made by an upper caste for upper caste audience’ , Of course it sends a message to its upper caste audience, But it does not tell them that they are superior,But rather blames their superiority for all the atrocities happening on the basis of the caste , and that Its not only the lower castes who should fight for their rights, but its the duty of each and every citizen to do so.
“Discrimination and acts of hate towards the lower sections will continue to go on if we continue to concentrate on eradicating caste discrimination by reservations rather than by eradicating the caste system itself.”
LOL.
How do you propose we end the caste system?.
I am sincerely hoping that the writer of this article consults a subject-matter expert and not a mediocre when facing a crisis, be it medical, legal, financial etc. A person getting a degree based on caste reservation or any other form of reservation (the most recent case “cheap gimmick played by Arvind Kejriwal to woo female voters”….) CAN NEVER KNOW THE VALUE OF KNOWLEDGE. All Bharatiyas must unanimously vow to eradicate reservation of ANY kinds, not even in case of women, kids or oldies. In fact, a healthy and evolved society is one where individuals are helped only if they are either genuinely needy or truly deserving.
The situation inside government institutions is still pathetic in our nation because of rampant reservations. For instance, in our government hospitals, at all levels, we come across few or many individuals, who just have no idea about why they come to work, no skills, no expertise. Consequently the blooming of numerous private ones. Not even a single person, earning sufficiently well, dares to take services of a government hospital when faced with any medical problem. The same is the case with government schools, public sector undertakings, government financial institutions etc etc. They all offer such disgusting and frustrating and un-professional services. Reason for this dismal situation is -RESERVATION.
Irony is that, most lower caste characters in the film seem to have been played by upper caste actors here.
अगर आपको दलित पर हुए अत्याचार पर समाज को दिखाना है तो सबसे ज्यादा अत्याचार मुग़ल आक्रंताओ ने किये थे और वो भी केवल दलितों पर नहीं सभी हिन्दुओ पर किये थे। लेकिन उनको तो शांतिदूत दिखाने का ठेका मिला हुआ है। अपने सच्चाई से क्या लेना देना है। आपको तो ब्राह्मण से परेशानी है ना। वैसे भी फिल्मो ने समाज को दिया ही क्या है ? फूहड़ता और नग्नता से सिवाय ??
Mandal sir has rightly pointed out.bcz,wat d author is talking about may b jus seen in comments.how ignorant &privileged people behave.one is writing dat writer has passed clg long ago,so may b dat time discrimination was prevailing .bt nw scenario is changed.while another is writing dat due to reservation if ur loses one seat,ur comes to know about caste crimination.how it is affecting.upper caste may ignore caste bt he comes to know about caste wen faces reservation.bt lower castes comes to know about it frm very childhood through social behaviour.& movie is yet to come ,so we cant analyze fully.bt election result has come&portfolios also allocated.so,analysis show that lower castes rose above caste & upper castes kept itself intact to its favourite party.bt jus aftr result,upper castes ruled in d allocation of portfolios.so,shed ur naive image & understand reality.
What is the caste of mr dilip mandal??
How stupid someone can be is evident from the piece of article this writer has wrote. While he could not understand the subtle message beneath Ayushman Khuranna’s dialogue asking “Which caste do I belong to” and angrily shouts on his colleagues who tries to persuade him with the fact that how they belong to other lower castes and how he is an upper caste brahmin. The character played by Ayushmann seems really angry that how police officers or human being say for that matter should use his/her caste identify! He angrily shouts on them that what is going on! And this writer completely mistakens this for Ayushmann not knowing his own caste and being ignorant towards caste “monster”. Such is his level of understanding!
The second point here I want to raise is that although it’s a very valid point of discussion that a movie showing caste arithmetic should have at least main characters played by lower caste peoples.
But you just cannot overrule it if it is not happening.
You want to eradicate caste, what is the problem if an upper caste plays protagonist to fight caste menace!
Instead it sends out a strong message in our urban public, who think casteism is not in existance in today’s century. You want caste to be eradicated then let it happen, why demand certain people playing it only, why reaffirm the casteist identity!
The most important point about the rural caste structure. While the writer rightly argues that it only shows rural people practising caste, and not urban, but if a story is set in rural, how do you expect a director to show caste discrimination in both rural and urban at the same time!
If he would have made a movie on caste discrimination entirely on urban background, then the scope for discussion would have remained.
Our film industry slowly but effectively taking up different issues to show through the film medium. They will make certain mistakes earlier, but we have a long way to go. They will come up with it I guess.
लेख में लेखक का ब्राहमण नायक के प्रति पूर्वाग्रह स्पष्ठ दिखाई देता है। लेखक के मन मे अंतर्निहित धारणा है कि दलित उत्थान के कार्य सिर्फ दलित ही कर सकते है उसके अलावा कोई करें तो वो ढोंगी है । इस मूवी का नायक ब्राह्मण है सिर्फ इसी आधार पर मूवी में जातिवादी मानसिकता ढूंढ लेना स्पष्ट दर्शाता है कि ब्राह्मण जाति के लोगो के प्रति कितनी घृणा भारी है आपके मन मे । सच का सामना करिये ओर वास्तविकता के धरातल पर आकर देखिये की जातिवादी मानसिकता पैदा करवाने वाले आप ही लोग है जो व्यक्ति के कर्म और भावनाओं के बाजय उसको जाती देखकर उसका विरोध करना शुरू कर देते है। जातिवादी मानसिकता को छोड़कर निष्पक्ष पत्रकारिता करिये ।
BIlkul sahi kah rhe ho bhai
मंडल सर ने कुछ ही पन्नों में चलचित्र दुनिया का कान सीधे शब्दों से पकड़ लिया है , कलाकार और निर्देशक की बाजीगरी 3 घंटे तक अच्छी लग सकती है मगर धरातल पर सवर्णों के कुकर्म और भी बढ़ जाएंगे।
उनका यह लेख सिर्फ इस फिल्म के लिए नहीं और भी इसी प्रकार की फिल्मों , धारावाहिको पर भी लागू होता है।
Mandal is one office the greatest authority of caste system in India. He is the Doctor who can diagnose the disease and knows how to treat and cure. He is doing a great service to the nation.
Agree truly with the above comments
We should be glad first that this issue is being addressed, criticise second
Also there is discrimination at university level because the real problems at the village level faced by the so called lower caste people stay alien to the urban student body. It is necessary to address this issue wherein the village brahmin and thakur atrocize the poor and the dalit. Only then shall the urban youth realise how imp reservation is and how imp is it to not discriminate and consider their opportunities stolen.
Should all the so-called UC people die? What is the solution to imaginary problems listed by Dilip Mandal. Clearly he needs psychiatric help.
To point 1, “tumhi ne dard diya…” the article seems to insinuate present day upper caste youth is responsible for current day plight of backward classes.If it were a backward caste protagonist, the article would have probably said upper castes are ignorant/don’t even want to support the lower castes.
To point 2, the author has long passed out of university maybe .I can assure , no urban youth who has ever lost a seat to the reserved candidate, can ever forget caste.
Agree with the third.Agree with fourth as well although lack of representation needs to be solved by providing better amenities, facilities and provision of free books to truly backward rather than free seats.
Upper castes are truly privileged.
But the article resents the privilege the upper castes enjoy when our focus should be to ensure that lower castes get the same privileges, no matter via a lower caste person, upper caste person or even a foreigner.
In a nutshell, it is disheartening to see people analysing caste of the filmmaker , resenting upper castes for their privilege instead of applauding for spreading the true situation faced by our brothers & sisters to the ignorant privileged upper caste.
The movie has not yet been released,so we can’t give such a detailed overview about it
There are certain points from this article that according to my personal opinion needs a review.
1.In points 1 and 3 ,the author highlights the issue of the protagonist being an upper caste Brahmin .Well, the case of an uppercaste Brahmin standing firmly by the constitution against caste discrimination, sends a message that not all upper castes are anti dalit or casteist It shows that despite the differences whether in caste or creed ,everyone should be united against such atrocities. It also tries to tell us that caste oppression, honor killings etc. is not the problem of a certain community,but of our nation as a whole.
2.The scene in the trailer , where Ayushmann enquires about his caste and that of his fellow officers , does not mean that the protagonist is unaware of his caste, But Anubhav Sinha uses this scene to show his audience how deeply the caste system is rooted in the minds of the public and also how deeply we are divided on the basis of that..
3. Even when the reservation system is beneficial to the lower castes, In many areas it is seen by the upper castes and the generals as something used by the lower castes to ‘steal’ their opportunities in the academic as well as in the professional arena . And reservations will have little use unless we solve the grassroot problem i.e, the mentality of the people ,unless the mindset is set right, reservation will actually be a tool to divide the public further. Discrimination and acts of hate towards the lower sections will continue to go on if we continue to concentrate on eradicating caste discrimination by reservations rather than by eradicating the caste system itself.
The author has raised the issue of urban casteism and Bahujan-Harijan comparison in a commendable manner,But I strongly disagree with the phrase ‘A movie made by an upper caste for upper caste audience’ , Of course it sends a message to its upper caste audience, But it does not tell them that they are superior,But rather blames their superiority for all the atrocities happening on the basis of the caste , and that Its not only the lower castes who should fight for their rights, but its the duty of each and every citizen to do so.
“Discrimination and acts of hate towards the lower sections will continue to go on if we continue to concentrate on eradicating caste discrimination by reservations rather than by eradicating the caste system itself.”
LOL.
How do you propose we end the caste system?.