Conservation of natural resources per se is a very challenging proposition in a poor developing country with burgeoning and exploding human population. With conflicting demand for land use the the balance between conservation and development especially the subsistence farming is becoming almost impossible. The passive management of wildlife must be gradually replaced by active management if wild animal population has to survive. Habitat management needs considerable improvement to restrict and hold the animals mainly in forest areas . Otherwise they will stray in adjacent farms and cause havoc both for life and property of poor farmers. The compensation offered to farmers for loss are totally inadequate and very badly delayed. The human animal conflict needs a long term solution encompassing benefit for both humans and animals as a whole. Can we think of a novel approach rather than the stereotype tried till now.
Lets keep aside wild animals. What will we do with RAT in our house? Can we trap and kill them or else allow them whatever they want to do? What we are doing in our house against rat is them same what farmers doing against wild animals, only when it comes to threats on their farming in large scale. Otherwise no farmer wish to disturb wild animals. When wild animals destroys the entire farm at the time of harvest, and everything went on toss for farmers, their effort of one year, their bank loan and everything and they suicides, nobody is their to raise voice for them.
Wild life wading into private land leads to a conflict. You talk about cruelty if the pineapple had a cracker inside. How about a fish line !!!
I dont like if a dog is tortured but i dont care if they are picked by municipality for culling.
Journalists also have responsibility while covering such news. Initially it was told some mischievous people did it for fun. Sensationalizing isn’t humane either. What sort of a cracker goes off in the mouth and is huge enough to kill an elephant. There are still lots of holes in the story.
Also there are railway lines in the wild. Now we didn’t like some elephants got hit by trains.
Most of the imbalance is created by man. “One kind of species should not exceed”….The human kind is that seceies whose population is exceeding….!
In the same breath one should clearly understand that an animal which is not cute also should not be eliminated because of it’s “ugliness”…!
Sir, at the first instance, I take offense to the very first sentence to say that Indians have sadistic tendencies … I consider it to be extremely offensive statement and in no way propounds your cause for conservation.
At the very fundamental levels, humans are also yet another species and have a natural tendency to dominate the landscape. It is for the conservationists to come with an appropriate model for conservation and sell the concept to the community at large. To propagate the concept of “big four”, “key stone species” etc. was the work of conservationists. Indian cultural system recognises all animals, be it a rat (as vahana for Ganesha) or the crow (vahana for Shani) or the owl … or the dog (Yama’s incarnation to meet Yudhistira) or the Vulture (as Jatayu) … I don’t think Indian culture has discriminated on any animal. It is the conservationists themselves who have propagated the discrimination model.
I agree with you that those who practice such activities like stuffing food with explosives, using explosives for fishing etc. are demons. There is no excuse for that. Not only is it illegal, it is immoral and anti to our culture. I wish you had conveyed this message more coherently.
We talk of local communities and their protection. But we forget that, it is relevant only if these communities continue to be living the life style consistent with environment. One ready example that stands out to me is the need to protect the Sentinalese. If the local communities have changed their lifestyle consistent with prosperity of the “outsiders” acquiring vehicles, guns, TVs, mobiles etc … use plastics and packaged food … they no longer are native to the environment. They have become like you and me, civilisation oriented people. Remember, your and my ancestors were also local communities some time … Don’t get me wrong … they are entitled to the luxuries of our times, the way we moved out, they too have the right to … but the same becomes inconsistent with the environment and conservation. The forest dwelling rights have been misused for purposes of homestays and providing bush meat, to put it mildly. We need to address that too …
Totally agree with Deepak. Yes its obvious that ecology, forest and environment needs a larger eye with constant overview. That doesn’t dilute the a minimal ethical sense that even a smaller kid is aware of, which is Practicing socialism and friendliness to fellow humans and other species and environment as well. What is being called here as an emotion that aired through out country was primarily a act of mischief and definite misconduct and irresponsibility. Which is acceptable in no ways. Talking about other animals suffering, the crackers were primarily used only in agricultural field by then agriculturists. Now better alternatives have come like strong barbed fencing etc. And elephants are different from pigs, they buld forest with their movement across nation, unlike pig, where its hunted often as staple elephant isn’t. And this is no excuse for a mischief performed by humans and cover it up in larger environment scale. Definitely no. Its just ridiculous giving larger picture of nature, conservation etc etc.
Deliberate action of few humans killing humanity.
An animal is disturbing human properties, so Killing that animal is justified….
If humans disturb the animals can we kill humans under the same logic…?
Killing animals whether small or large for food and human resources is cruelty but people say to make a balance in food web one kind of species cannot exceed as it will disturb the entire food chain. So, it concludes that everything should be done in a balance manner. But the cause of death and situations matters. Killing of pregnant elephant and that too by honey trapping an explosion into her mouth is in humane.
Conservation of natural resources per se is a very challenging proposition in a poor developing country with burgeoning and exploding human population. With conflicting demand for land use the the balance between conservation and development especially the subsistence farming is becoming almost impossible. The passive management of wildlife must be gradually replaced by active management if wild animal population has to survive. Habitat management needs considerable improvement to restrict and hold the animals mainly in forest areas . Otherwise they will stray in adjacent farms and cause havoc both for life and property of poor farmers. The compensation offered to farmers for loss are totally inadequate and very badly delayed. The human animal conflict needs a long term solution encompassing benefit for both humans and animals as a whole. Can we think of a novel approach rather than the stereotype tried till now.
Lets keep aside wild animals. What will we do with RAT in our house? Can we trap and kill them or else allow them whatever they want to do? What we are doing in our house against rat is them same what farmers doing against wild animals, only when it comes to threats on their farming in large scale. Otherwise no farmer wish to disturb wild animals. When wild animals destroys the entire farm at the time of harvest, and everything went on toss for farmers, their effort of one year, their bank loan and everything and they suicides, nobody is their to raise voice for them.
Wild life wading into private land leads to a conflict. You talk about cruelty if the pineapple had a cracker inside. How about a fish line !!!
I dont like if a dog is tortured but i dont care if they are picked by municipality for culling.
Journalists also have responsibility while covering such news. Initially it was told some mischievous people did it for fun. Sensationalizing isn’t humane either. What sort of a cracker goes off in the mouth and is huge enough to kill an elephant. There are still lots of holes in the story.
Also there are railway lines in the wild. Now we didn’t like some elephants got hit by trains.
Most of the imbalance is created by man. “One kind of species should not exceed”….The human kind is that seceies whose population is exceeding….!
In the same breath one should clearly understand that an animal which is not cute also should not be eliminated because of it’s “ugliness”…!
Sir, at the first instance, I take offense to the very first sentence to say that Indians have sadistic tendencies … I consider it to be extremely offensive statement and in no way propounds your cause for conservation.
At the very fundamental levels, humans are also yet another species and have a natural tendency to dominate the landscape. It is for the conservationists to come with an appropriate model for conservation and sell the concept to the community at large. To propagate the concept of “big four”, “key stone species” etc. was the work of conservationists. Indian cultural system recognises all animals, be it a rat (as vahana for Ganesha) or the crow (vahana for Shani) or the owl … or the dog (Yama’s incarnation to meet Yudhistira) or the Vulture (as Jatayu) … I don’t think Indian culture has discriminated on any animal. It is the conservationists themselves who have propagated the discrimination model.
I agree with you that those who practice such activities like stuffing food with explosives, using explosives for fishing etc. are demons. There is no excuse for that. Not only is it illegal, it is immoral and anti to our culture. I wish you had conveyed this message more coherently.
We talk of local communities and their protection. But we forget that, it is relevant only if these communities continue to be living the life style consistent with environment. One ready example that stands out to me is the need to protect the Sentinalese. If the local communities have changed their lifestyle consistent with prosperity of the “outsiders” acquiring vehicles, guns, TVs, mobiles etc … use plastics and packaged food … they no longer are native to the environment. They have become like you and me, civilisation oriented people. Remember, your and my ancestors were also local communities some time … Don’t get me wrong … they are entitled to the luxuries of our times, the way we moved out, they too have the right to … but the same becomes inconsistent with the environment and conservation. The forest dwelling rights have been misused for purposes of homestays and providing bush meat, to put it mildly. We need to address that too …
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Totally agree with Deepak. Yes its obvious that ecology, forest and environment needs a larger eye with constant overview. That doesn’t dilute the a minimal ethical sense that even a smaller kid is aware of, which is Practicing socialism and friendliness to fellow humans and other species and environment as well. What is being called here as an emotion that aired through out country was primarily a act of mischief and definite misconduct and irresponsibility. Which is acceptable in no ways. Talking about other animals suffering, the crackers were primarily used only in agricultural field by then agriculturists. Now better alternatives have come like strong barbed fencing etc. And elephants are different from pigs, they buld forest with their movement across nation, unlike pig, where its hunted often as staple elephant isn’t. And this is no excuse for a mischief performed by humans and cover it up in larger environment scale. Definitely no. Its just ridiculous giving larger picture of nature, conservation etc etc.
Deliberate action of few humans killing humanity.
How about Coyote ? Can we kill them to protect our farm chickens and lamb ? What is your solution ?
An animal is disturbing human properties, so Killing that animal is justified….
If humans disturb the animals can we kill humans under the same logic…?
Killing animals whether small or large for food and human resources is cruelty but people say to make a balance in food web one kind of species cannot exceed as it will disturb the entire food chain. So, it concludes that everything should be done in a balance manner. But the cause of death and situations matters. Killing of pregnant elephant and that too by honey trapping an explosion into her mouth is in humane.