Pukhraj Sahib: Thanks for your interest in the matter. I am not sure what further information you are seeking. My suspicion, however, is that you are searching to understand the evolutionary process that helped Pakistan attain considerable intelligence capability? Briefly, the reason I singled out the contribution that was made under the leadership of the late Brig. F. R. Khan and his colleagues at the Military Intelligence headquarters was that he served as the pivot that brought Pakistan’s intelligence community center stage as a strategic tool of engagement in Pakistan’s defense matrix. Remember, that while Pakistan’s primary preoccupation, whether real or imagined, focused on the perceived overarching threat that India potentially posed over 6 decades and more, the role of the Pentagon and US Department of State, beginning with the signing of the 1952 CENTO and SEATO pacts played an important role in directing how Pakistan was to shape its defense architecture, including, of course, its intelligence capacity. Although, historically there are several turning points that necessitated the fostering and solidification of Pakistan’s intelligence programs but clearly the most profound spike came in Pakistan’s covert operations during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan when the CIA led initiatives recruited and trained arguably the largest American led contra-force in the world, cobbled together to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan. All this while, and in the decades that followed, Pakistan gained, albeit at great human cost, a magnitude of experience and expertise that earned it the distinction of having the world’s premier spy agencies.
For some background, the chief architect of the Bureau of National Research & Reconstruction was the late Brig. F. R. Khan, who later served as Pakistan’s high commissioner to the UK, a man of great foresight and very well read (from Shakespeare to Stalin). He regularly briefed, and eventually persuaded, President Ayub Khan that as a front line state Pakistan would have to develop significant intelligence capability. Ayub took his lead and charged him with the responsibility of beefing up the Military Intelligence apparatus including the ISI and thus the leg work for the proficiency that we see in both the ISI and ISPR today is a culmination of that long drawn effort.
Such was the foresight ..That beggars had been cut to size 4 times officially nd million times unofficially.
Usage of SM is the admission of the fact that saviour of the nation has actually harmed the nation for its own superior status in pak.
But it has been proven everytime fauzi foundation owners superiority is inversely proportional to existence of pak.
Endgame.
Fascinating comment, Mr. Rao Amjad Ali. I would appreciate if you could back this up with some scholarship and references. Just so that I am equally well-informed as you are. Regards, Pukhraj
Dear ThePrint, we learnt the lesson hard way, first it was the 71 saga. You guys very cunningly made a movement for rights in East Pakistan into a full blown insurgency, then mutiny and finally a successful assault. Now, since 65 taught you a lesson thatyou won’t stand a day in a conventional battle field. Like Run of Kuch was a massive defeat and quite a, large territory lost. So, read The dead reckoning, by Samita bose and you would know how things unfurled in East Pakistan.
Now the Kargil episode was one piece which India surely won on TV screens. Pakistan had only one TV channel, India had more then a hundred. Tiger hill was created and Won on TV screens, peak 5353 was lost to Pakistan, and it is still in Pakistani hands, your defence minister George Fernande then famously said in Loksabha that peak can’t be taken back and the price would be insanely high. So tiger hill created and an imaginary battle fought, and won. Even the guy who was given Veer Chakra turned out to be alive and a massive embarrassment for Indian Army. But still TV screens won it, so the ISPR is a lesson learnt over almost a half century and being perfected.
Tiger hill was created!!!! With what?? Hammer?? lol…
Run of kuch was a territory loss??? Are all pakis are day dreamers or you are a exception??? Ask your shameless army chief Mussaraf, how he and his shameless army came to take Kashmir and then ran from kargil hill??? Mussaraf even ran from his own country and now he is sitting in london??? (Lol)
Pukhraj Sahib: Thanks for your interest in the matter. I am not sure what further information you are seeking. My suspicion, however, is that you are searching to understand the evolutionary process that helped Pakistan attain considerable intelligence capability? Briefly, the reason I singled out the contribution that was made under the leadership of the late Brig. F. R. Khan and his colleagues at the Military Intelligence headquarters was that he served as the pivot that brought Pakistan’s intelligence community center stage as a strategic tool of engagement in Pakistan’s defense matrix. Remember, that while Pakistan’s primary preoccupation, whether real or imagined, focused on the perceived overarching threat that India potentially posed over 6 decades and more, the role of the Pentagon and US Department of State, beginning with the signing of the 1952 CENTO and SEATO pacts played an important role in directing how Pakistan was to shape its defense architecture, including, of course, its intelligence capacity. Although, historically there are several turning points that necessitated the fostering and solidification of Pakistan’s intelligence programs but clearly the most profound spike came in Pakistan’s covert operations during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan when the CIA led initiatives recruited and trained arguably the largest American led contra-force in the world, cobbled together to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan. All this while, and in the decades that followed, Pakistan gained, albeit at great human cost, a magnitude of experience and expertise that earned it the distinction of having the world’s premier spy agencies.
For some background, the chief architect of the Bureau of National Research & Reconstruction was the late Brig. F. R. Khan, who later served as Pakistan’s high commissioner to the UK, a man of great foresight and very well read (from Shakespeare to Stalin). He regularly briefed, and eventually persuaded, President Ayub Khan that as a front line state Pakistan would have to develop significant intelligence capability. Ayub took his lead and charged him with the responsibility of beefing up the Military Intelligence apparatus including the ISI and thus the leg work for the proficiency that we see in both the ISI and ISPR today is a culmination of that long drawn effort.
Such was the foresight ..That beggars had been cut to size 4 times officially nd million times unofficially.
Usage of SM is the admission of the fact that saviour of the nation has actually harmed the nation for its own superior status in pak.
But it has been proven everytime fauzi foundation owners superiority is inversely proportional to existence of pak.
Endgame.
Fascinating comment, Mr. Rao Amjad Ali. I would appreciate if you could back this up with some scholarship and references. Just so that I am equally well-informed as you are. Regards, Pukhraj
India admits Pakistan!s superiority.
Pakistan’s superiority???? lol
Dear ThePrint, we learnt the lesson hard way, first it was the 71 saga. You guys very cunningly made a movement for rights in East Pakistan into a full blown insurgency, then mutiny and finally a successful assault. Now, since 65 taught you a lesson thatyou won’t stand a day in a conventional battle field. Like Run of Kuch was a massive defeat and quite a, large territory lost. So, read The dead reckoning, by Samita bose and you would know how things unfurled in East Pakistan.
Now the Kargil episode was one piece which India surely won on TV screens. Pakistan had only one TV channel, India had more then a hundred. Tiger hill was created and Won on TV screens, peak 5353 was lost to Pakistan, and it is still in Pakistani hands, your defence minister George Fernande then famously said in Loksabha that peak can’t be taken back and the price would be insanely high. So tiger hill created and an imaginary battle fought, and won. Even the guy who was given Veer Chakra turned out to be alive and a massive embarrassment for Indian Army. But still TV screens won it, so the ISPR is a lesson learnt over almost a half century and being perfected.
Tiger hill was created!!!! With what?? Hammer?? lol…
Run of kuch was a territory loss??? Are all pakis are day dreamers or you are a exception??? Ask your shameless army chief Mussaraf, how he and his shameless army came to take Kashmir and then ran from kargil hill??? Mussaraf even ran from his own country and now he is sitting in london??? (Lol)