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Guess I’ve stretched the Overton’s Window of ThePrint® mods, huh?
Ahh…
Pleased to know that in the so-called “World’s Largest Democracy”, it’s not the strong-language( itself potentially contravening of the number of IPs), but ‘The Kashmīr Question’ which is glowing-red-lines/off-limits.
Do you have to comment just to tell the readers that you know how to type.
@Malay Deb: More like they wanted to assert that they are able to conjure-up comprehensible sentences.
its our mistake we give VISAS to you ungrateful, backstabbing QUAM, for education, employment, tourism and especially for MEDICAL TREATMENT. Thank god, my state, Karnataka has permanently banned you from entering india ever.
Foreign media is not holly as author thinks, they have their own agenda and many times their own government highly criticize them. Please don’t be mouth peace of foreign agenda in India.
They are not going to help or care for Indians either but wants money at the cost of citizens. Please check their views and how bias they are. They never care for poor either, but loots.
Look what they did during independence movement and even today English never admits genocide they committed in India.
That their “own governments”( I assume it means that the rulers of their host-polities) criticise them as considered as an indicting-thorn in their fingers, than a credibility-raising feather in their caps?
I can’t.. I just can’t.
As a well-wisher: In this life, or if you’re a believer in “seven incarnations” or any other metaphysical-concept but please.. For goodness sake, don’t ever consider becoming a journalist — in any of your lives.
Wait…!
I meant a serious-journalist, ‘course.
The author’s generation grew up on Western propaganda masquerading as knowledge and wisdom. They were literally fed on grain received as aid. It would be terribly impolite for them to not treat any westerner as god almighty, given this background. Younger generations have no such compulsion. Having witnessed outright prejudice and bigotry in western institutions first hand, I know where that sort of reporting comes from. This useless pop psychology about our “sensitivity” is just click-bait. No one gives a rat’s entrails about what they about us. But like anyone else, no one likes being called names. Today we have the numbers and wherewithal to call out their bigotry, and we will. It’s disingenuous to get the government involved in this – all of the expressed outrage has been from people online – even many left-leaning individuals. The government has done and said precious little, and perhaps wisely so.
You might know it firsthand and even generalising “Westerners”( whatever that precisely means) aside: The Indian youth are also the largest young-supporters of the State of Isrāel, as increasingly-Con/-RW as Ms( most-popularly-euphemised-as: iSLaMisTs) of the world and as virulently-queerphobic.
In other words, taking all the bad from their elders and multiplying it.
Refreshing, innit?
It is all because of inferiority-superiority complex created over the long period of time. Quoting Rajiv Gandhi or Nehru as example is the beginning of the end of story. Once for Rajiv Gandhi’s great grand father, there was no good iron system available to press his cloths and there was a story that he used to get everything pressed from France (early of part of previous century) because no technology for ironing the cloths existing in India those days and no skillful labour was available. We use to read those in school books with great pride. That is the difference then and now.
I am a Kashmiri Hindu and the issue I am see here with the current situation is where the hell was BBC, NY times, Washington Post etc in 1989 – 90 when Kashmiri Hindus were been killed by these Kashmiri Muslims and Hindu men were asked to leave their homes and wives/daughters behind. Now these Kashmir Muslim talk about atrocities and want the whole world to be sympathy towards them. Western media has always been biases towards Hindu India other why would they always mention India Govt as Hidhu Nationalistic when more than 350 Million Indians (Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Jains, Christians) voted for BJP.
P.S. Given I’ve already demonstrated the gravity of your ill-informed worldview, shall I need to spell-out that your comment here is extremely your own personal-opinion and regardless of its concurrence by your compatriots — it doesn’t change or substantiate anything.
To spell-out: For “popularity”=honesty.
A) First of all, take a round of applause for not identifying yourself with the mainstream-but-casteist term ‘Kashmīri Pandit’. It’s perhaps the first-ever time I’ve noticed a KP referring to themself as that.
B) I know, right? But alas.. Where was the very-obedient national press, as then? And your desperate “whatabout” points attention towards a historical-event and yet — like a faithful-ideologue, you fail to apply s seeming critical-thinking to the violent and barbaric oppression by Indian armed-forces in the period leading up to that. Which makes it something given that period of national press’ silence is the ONE-&-ONLY period in which the Army has gone on record to admit its war-crimes, one wonder whether the forced-displacement of KPs had the participation of state-institutions as well — given The Kashmīr Question wasn’t looking anywhere near resolution and their wasn’t a grown acceptability of the Indian perspective on Kashmīr’s status, as well. So what would be a better way, than to facilitate building a counter-narrative?( Something which has now been adopted by the Russian Federation in a similar-fashion to subvert Chechen independence movement, and for a similarly crucial domestic-policy.) #FoodforThought
C) The fact that you can’t be in cognisance of the facilitation of field-reporting granted by technological-advancement in those 30+ years leading to lesser stranglehold of authorities — is as cliché as disappointing.
Even the vocabulary of the western media is biased. For instance, the term “Hindu nationalist” is a pejorative term that gets applied to Modi while you never hear “Muslim nationalists” or “Christian nationalists” even though it would be much more accurate in those cases. The real problem is that the western media talks to Indian intellectuals who hate Modi and are deeply uncomfortable with Indian culture. Consider how similarly the western media and India’s left wing intellectuals reacted to Modi mediating in a cave. This isn’t a coincidence. The western media is largely listening to how India’s Marxist and left wing elites view India events and Indian culture.
However, all those who think that we should ignore the western media are making a big mistake. We should actively engage with the western media. We need to forcefully point out that the Indians who write for the western media do not represent India and that they represent largely fringe extremist views. These is a problem that will take years to solve because Indian intellectual centers that can engage with the western media are deeply anti-Indian themselves and it will take a while for a new crop of intellectuals to come up.
Ahh..
You shoulda for ‘terminology’, instead of “vocabulary”.
And yes, Hindu Nationalist is an academic and, accurate term — as the equivalent has been invoked by your own ‘Messiah’ in his addresses, as well.
And you must be on to something..
As long as no fraction of critical-thinking to your PD-addled worldview is applied.
Yes, the press doesn’t say ‘Muslim nationalist’ because no “M” of concern addresses themself as such. They do however invoke the term like “Islamists”, “radical Islamists”, “Islamic terrorism”, Dā’ish’s self-addressed nomenclature and the disproportionate application of the term “tErRoRIsm” and its derivatives to Ms than the care taken to avoid that term when referring to the very same act with very similar factors committed by somebody affiliated with a belief-system not identified as Islāmic.
And yep, they don’t invoke the term “Christian nationalist”, either. But they’ve learned to invoke ‘white supremacist’ and are taking baby-steps to call the mass-murders committed by them as ‘white supremacist terrorism’, as well. No progress on terming individual-attacks as such, I’ll give ya that.
This trend has been increasing recentally in India to comment on historical events and historical personalities to make adverse comments on them without deep indepth study or knowledge of the events and the circumstances prevailed in the relevant time period. However, such people neither do good to the country nor to the humanity. By doing this they can appease their godfathers or satisfy their ego only. Without human values only nationalism can not satisfy needs of human beings. Truth prevails ultimately and hiding or distorting the truth by any media foreign or indegenous is a crime against humanity. Who knows the adversely affected party next time may be any one of us !
Wish you could’ve been more clearer, than choosing to be THAT subtle. Also, it should say ‘homegrown’ instead of “indigenous”.
A bunch of foreign journos bankrolled by their masters to spew hate,bias and insult on India and Indians. Dancing to their tunes are a bunch of Indian journos eating away like termites the spirit of Indians by concoting negative narratives to fill their own power vacuum and coffers..absolutely appalling and third rate! Other than nuisance value this lot of urban naxals have never given anything worth even mentioning!
Odd that you say that for an author who gets triggered by a neutral-phrase.( Launching into your own spiel of buzzwords and all. As if it’s so original.)
Also..
Last[ time] I checked: Late Sir Orwell was no Patanjali®-accredited Swadesi, either.
Marxists and communists like you may have sold your souls to foreigners for a few crumbs they throw at you, but the rest of us have our self respect intact. NYT and BBC might be gospel to you, but to us they are nothing but information war wing of imperial forces.
Shekhar ji allowed you to publish this article is a surprise to me. He, being a blind invisible supporter of Modi has taken a great risk of loosing govt favours. Nonetheless you have covered foreign journalists, national scenerio is still worst. Really it’s a very very difficult time for brave journalists, barring those who surrendered to Modi for reasons known to them.
@Pal Singh: Uh-huh?!?
Did you comment at the wrong place?!?
And whatcha on about, you’re claiming( if not accusing) a veteran journo of being a covert “NaMo” fanboy, even though he’s been mocked as “Coupta Ji( language consciously-uncensored) and derided with anti-Left slurs for years by the overt “fan[atic]s”/“st[alking f]an[atic]s” of ‘The Messiah'[ by now]?!?
Alright, let’s assume for the sake of argument — that the NYT® and the BBC®, both of them are corrupt to the core..
…And yes..
…Irrespective of your own biases towards the NATO-led “War on tErRoR”, most-prominently.
But what do you say on the rest?
Or at least, that press-outlet also foreign to the Uncle Sam — which was “accidentally” targeted by the forces of brands Freedom® & Democracy® though the pure State Terrorism of bombing and assassination, with leaked-indictments of more to come? Are they also disseminating “imperialism”?
Overall one can agree on the point of view expressed by the author of the article. The reference to the IFS official was certainly not justified in the present case. Diplomatic immunity does not justify and does not allow everything. That said, there is one point that is not addressed by this article is the role of the country’s diplomatic posts abroad to represent him. Often in the main capitals the head of the diplomatic mission does not speak the language of the country where he is posted. Then he does not express himself in the press of the country. The means exist to justify and explain the policy of the country represented. But that is not done. And yet there are in these diplomatic posts advisers in charge of communication. What is the use of these advisers who invest in tourism or trade. These are certainly important activities. But the first role of a diplomatic post and its leader is to take a stand to defend the policy of his country in the audio-visual means of the host country, when it is contested. On this side, the reactivity of China and Russia when their interests are questioned must be studied and taught at the IFS, and not only the proper use of diplomatic immunity !!!!
“represent him” or ‘her’?
Also, it’s striking that you referenced Diplomat Devyāni’s case but continued the old-fashion phraseology of referring an official designation strictly by masculine-pronoun.
Unfortunately, it’s pretty much the case in official-communication and even in Legalese..
But your personal-comment, it just.. I can’t!
And I totally agree with your take on this op-ed but a-gain, can’t agree on the your remark about Mr Ramesh Thakur’s entry on The Wire®. As, it might be said that he is wrong to equate the plight of a labour-abuser with the cases of sugar-coating literal torture and even, the perennial-Russophobia in Occidental, particularly Murican press rearing its ugly-head in the Crimean liberation( rare to hear it in English-language, no?) — but the coverage was overall one-sided. And yes, I also recognise that it could be given to the presumption of “voice to the voiceless” edict and the publications also can’t be sensibly accused of casteism as a counter( which indeed occurred!) since the vast-majority of op-eds were written either anonymously( cf. “/Our Take/View”) or from non-Indian journalists, let alone upper-caste reporters of Indian descent.
And she should have spoken-up for herself, and there would be something if in spite of her defending herself in public — the publications would’ve consciously avoided or underreported her commenters, but the fact remains that she didn’t. Needless to add, if you’re way too guilty-as-charged — you’re counseled to keep your trap shut so..
Did you not know that fake news is hidden behind in a clever way to hide the truth? Today most sources in for the New York Times and BBC are Pakistani interests. They do not bother even to verify the news item. The sources are not questioned. Some in Lutyens Delhi also aid because they do not like Modi and his spectacular win in 2014 and only three months back in 2019…….. shame on the Western Media including their Lutyen sources.
And your own source [ for these intentioned-canards] is, lemme guess.. ZEE® NEWS’ WION®?
Or the likes of The Pioneer®, REPUBLIC® Media Network, TIMES® [N][O][W] or NewsX®, et al.?
If not some overseas-based think-tank, to be sure.
I agree with John Elliott’ views. Our country suffers from inferiority complex. Socialist moron Nehru thought India was world number 1 country and himself as the greatest prime minister the world has ever seen. Our country fails to understand that ours is a mere two penny third class corrupt socialist backward poor country. But our leaders want to project her as a super duper fully developed advanced capitalist industrialised powerful country. There is no shame in accepting what we are. Broken roads, footpaths and open drains are what defines our country and I’m proud of it.
Socialist, yes, Moron, no. The respect India received globally was due in part – will not get into measuring it – to the aura of PM Nehru. He made the world realise that there was a lot more to India than poverty and illiteracy and all the other factors he struggled over two decades in office to overcome. History will judge him more kindly than the troll armies.
It’s a myth that Nehru struggled to overcome poverty and illiteracy. In fact he perpetuated both, by starting the trend of loss making Public sector units, run with tax payer’s money, thereby ensuring poverty. His monumental blunder in ignoring primary education ensured that even now India is paying a price for it. If there ever is a ranking of Indian Prime Ministers, then Nehru stands right at the bottom, thanks to all the original sins he committed.
Air India has made a loss of 4,600 crores last year, 54 years after Panditji boarded his last flight.
Enhancing self esteem became delusion in India. More so after 2014.. 5000 years old Plastic surgeon’s accomplishments started appearing in press conferences. Monkey head stitched to human body became the only cross spices surgery known to mankind.
@Vish: Yikes!
You sound like a Libertarian.
And by that, you might as well start saying that the farmers talking their own lives must be left to themselves since they’re losers by the market-forces, no?
I mean, I could go on but..
Won’t ya?
Yikes!
From the said dominant Indian perspective: That does sound unreasonably-harsh.
Also..
From a psycho-positive perspective: Your cliché reliance on a word which was once a clinical-term doesn’t help to reflect intellectual-rigour on your part.
cross-species* There! FTFY ?
Bwahahahahaha!
Well said. Hail Āryavartha!
If we want international approval and praise, perhaps things have to be much better on the ground. Difficult to recall the last full throated report in any respected western media outlet that is full of praise and admiration. Not easy being an Indian diplomat abroad, engaging constructively with the media.
Ashok ji – it isn’t about approval or praise. It is about the perceptions that are created all over the world by the media. We need to do our best to ensure that our perspective is also heard around the world. In the absence of our perspective, people all over the world will hear only a negative perspective. Let’s at least ensure that we are heard.
Even those who think that the ground situation needs to be improved are also missing the point. For instance, you hear the 8 million number being mentioned repeatedly. Well that number should be a lot less because it is for the entire state but there are large parts of the state where there are no restrictions. Malala just tweeted that the school children of the entire state haven’t been able to go so school, when in fact this is only true in a few parts. In every situation, no matter how difficult, we need to put our perspective out without any reservations or fear.
{1-for-2 reply:
}Hey…! Mr “@ashok”.
Here we ‘meet’ a-gain.
A) Whose “Himāchali whiskey” are you referring to?
B) Yep, unless it’s sponsored by Incredible India® or some Indian bazillionaire with Con/RW sympathies. ?
But to be serious, I dunno how you consider the AJE®( mentioned directly, and once in the article) on your take of “respected” and what’s “praise and admiration” of The Power in the your spectrum of my head, I can recall a documentary miniseries on ALJAZEERA®[ back when it was not licensed to air in India and few years since the India’s MIB tightened its grip on the booming DTH industry to desist from giving space to unlicensed channels, particularly those “originating” from the likes of Pākistān*] which aired across the span of a month( 4-part) within mere 2 years of its launch and it was subsequently also syndicated by Discovery® [ ?CHANNEL ] India within 9 months[ of the premiere on one of AJE®’s documentary-strands] and the news-coverage of the same( definitely not a basic PR!) included a laudatory-wisecrack towards the broadcaster by its key-subject.
C) C’mon…! Have some pity for the amount of critical-thinking DPRK’s diplomats face. Ohhh… Wait!
*Although, the far-reaching edict couldn’t be enforced efficiently on locally-based pay TV service-providers — the Local Cable Operators. Since they were the only established medium for curated-TV provision back then, as IPTV was just launching and still-minute HITS was just announced. ‘Course, by now: As is pretty common with law-enforcement in India, it has now been efficiently enforced the LCOs, as well. As the so-called cable TV digitisation has taken the power[ of running a headend] away from mostly tax-evading LCOs and granted it to the franchise-issuing Multi-System Operators( MSOs).
On a lighter note, one is not sure gentleman waited for night to fall to enjoy his whisky. He also loved his Himachali fried trout.
BBC to New York Times – Why Indian governments have always been wary of foreign press ? Why not ask why Indians need foreign accounts at all, legal or illegal ? What is more important ? Other than Shastri and Modi how many Indian Prime Ministers have an impeccable personal image as Clean ? Have we heard of Reagan’s, Clintons, Bushes, Thatchers Markels and Abes having foreign account, in India ? This is the first reason Why Indian governments have always been wary of foreign press.
Unity in diversity has to be maintained before a culture of that is imbibed. There are always vested interests who would not want that even if it means taking help of the foreign press, and to take care of that some steps are necessary. The intellectuals will not talk of the corrupt leaders but run down the country otherwise. Then we have the Gora Sahibs living like lords, with servants and drivers they would not be able to afford at home, claiming to know this country better than all of us and are glorified by the a special class of hangers on.
First of all: You shoulda recalled to take ample breaths..
…In typing your bile.( Spelling-out: The punctuation!)
As for all of the leaders specifically nitpicked( I assume the last-one is Modi( no salutation!)’s Japanese counterpart) have foreign account, by the very Indian press!
Too bad that you’re just-another amongst the masses who don’t consume much of the sufficiently-supreme Indian press to have a genuine, informed-take. Much less Prasar Bharati®’s own output.
There has to be zero tolerance for fake news whether it is BBC or New York Times or some other media outlets. More than 90% are from tertiary sources and opinions are contrived to suit particular agendas. It will be ridiculous to say that foreign media correspondents are certified angels.
It’ll be far more ludicrous to even believe that the contemporary Indian press, particularly the so-called “electronic media” — represent any tenet of old-school Journalism.
So..
Guess I’ve stretched the Overton’s Window of ThePrint® mods, huh?
Ahh…
Pleased to know that in the so-called “World’s Largest Democracy”, it’s not the strong-language( itself potentially contravening of the number of IPs), but ‘The Kashmīr Question’ which is glowing-red-lines/off-limits.
You are a minor threat to India.
Do you have to comment just to tell the readers that you know how to type.
@Malay Deb: More like they wanted to assert that they are able to conjure-up comprehensible sentences.
its our mistake we give VISAS to you ungrateful, backstabbing QUAM, for education, employment, tourism and especially for MEDICAL TREATMENT. Thank god, my state, Karnataka has permanently banned you from entering india ever.
Foreign media is not holly as author thinks, they have their own agenda and many times their own government highly criticize them. Please don’t be mouth peace of foreign agenda in India.
They are not going to help or care for Indians either but wants money at the cost of citizens. Please check their views and how bias they are. They never care for poor either, but loots.
Look what they did during independence movement and even today English never admits genocide they committed in India.
holy* There! FTFY ?
Yikes!
Wait..
What?!?
That their “own governments”( I assume it means that the rulers of their host-polities) criticise them as considered as an indicting-thorn in their fingers, than a credibility-raising feather in their caps?
I can’t.. I just can’t.
As a well-wisher: In this life, or if you’re a believer in “seven incarnations” or any other metaphysical-concept but please.. For goodness sake, don’t ever consider becoming a journalist — in any of your lives.
Wait…!
I meant a serious-journalist, ‘course.
The author’s generation grew up on Western propaganda masquerading as knowledge and wisdom. They were literally fed on grain received as aid. It would be terribly impolite for them to not treat any westerner as god almighty, given this background. Younger generations have no such compulsion. Having witnessed outright prejudice and bigotry in western institutions first hand, I know where that sort of reporting comes from. This useless pop psychology about our “sensitivity” is just click-bait. No one gives a rat’s entrails about what they about us. But like anyone else, no one likes being called names. Today we have the numbers and wherewithal to call out their bigotry, and we will. It’s disingenuous to get the government involved in this – all of the expressed outrage has been from people online – even many left-leaning individuals. The government has done and said precious little, and perhaps wisely so.
You might know it firsthand and even generalising “Westerners”( whatever that precisely means) aside: The Indian youth are also the largest young-supporters of the State of Isrāel, as increasingly-Con/-RW as Ms( most-popularly-euphemised-as: iSLaMisTs) of the world and as virulently-queerphobic.
In other words, taking all the bad from their elders and multiplying it.
Refreshing, innit?
It is all because of inferiority-superiority complex created over the long period of time. Quoting Rajiv Gandhi or Nehru as example is the beginning of the end of story. Once for Rajiv Gandhi’s great grand father, there was no good iron system available to press his cloths and there was a story that he used to get everything pressed from France (early of part of previous century) because no technology for ironing the cloths existing in India those days and no skillful labour was available. We use to read those in school books with great pride. That is the difference then and now.
Uh-huh?!?
Wanna elucidate on your implication?
I am a Kashmiri Hindu and the issue I am see here with the current situation is where the hell was BBC, NY times, Washington Post etc in 1989 – 90 when Kashmiri Hindus were been killed by these Kashmiri Muslims and Hindu men were asked to leave their homes and wives/daughters behind. Now these Kashmir Muslim talk about atrocities and want the whole world to be sympathy towards them. Western media has always been biases towards Hindu India other why would they always mention India Govt as Hidhu Nationalistic when more than 350 Million Indians (Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Jains, Christians) voted for BJP.
P.S. Given I’ve already demonstrated the gravity of your ill-informed worldview, shall I need to spell-out that your comment here is extremely your own personal-opinion and regardless of its concurrence by your compatriots — it doesn’t change or substantiate anything.
To spell-out: For “popularity”=honesty.
A) First of all, take a round of applause for not identifying yourself with the mainstream-but-casteist term ‘Kashmīri Pandit’. It’s perhaps the first-ever time I’ve noticed a KP referring to themself as that.
B) I know, right? But alas.. Where was the very-obedient national press, as then? And your desperate “whatabout” points attention towards a historical-event and yet — like a faithful-ideologue, you fail to apply s seeming critical-thinking to the violent and barbaric oppression by Indian armed-forces in the period leading up to that. Which makes it something given that period of national press’ silence is the ONE-&-ONLY period in which the Army has gone on record to admit its war-crimes, one wonder whether the forced-displacement of KPs had the participation of state-institutions as well — given The Kashmīr Question wasn’t looking anywhere near resolution and their wasn’t a grown acceptability of the Indian perspective on Kashmīr’s status, as well. So what would be a better way, than to facilitate building a counter-narrative?( Something which has now been adopted by the Russian Federation in a similar-fashion to subvert Chechen independence movement, and for a similarly crucial domestic-policy.) #FoodforThought
C) The fact that you can’t be in cognisance of the facilitation of field-reporting granted by technological-advancement in those 30+ years leading to lesser stranglehold of authorities — is as cliché as disappointing.
Even the vocabulary of the western media is biased. For instance, the term “Hindu nationalist” is a pejorative term that gets applied to Modi while you never hear “Muslim nationalists” or “Christian nationalists” even though it would be much more accurate in those cases. The real problem is that the western media talks to Indian intellectuals who hate Modi and are deeply uncomfortable with Indian culture. Consider how similarly the western media and India’s left wing intellectuals reacted to Modi mediating in a cave. This isn’t a coincidence. The western media is largely listening to how India’s Marxist and left wing elites view India events and Indian culture.
However, all those who think that we should ignore the western media are making a big mistake. We should actively engage with the western media. We need to forcefully point out that the Indians who write for the western media do not represent India and that they represent largely fringe extremist views. These is a problem that will take years to solve because Indian intellectual centers that can engage with the western media are deeply anti-Indian themselves and it will take a while for a new crop of intellectuals to come up.
Ahh..
You shoulda for ‘terminology’, instead of “vocabulary”.
And yes, Hindu Nationalist is an academic and, accurate term — as the equivalent has been invoked by your own ‘Messiah’ in his addresses, as well.
And you must be on to something..
As long as no fraction of critical-thinking to your PD-addled worldview is applied.
Yes, the press doesn’t say ‘Muslim nationalist’ because no “M” of concern addresses themself as such. They do however invoke the term like “Islamists”, “radical Islamists”, “Islamic terrorism”, Dā’ish’s self-addressed nomenclature and the disproportionate application of the term “tErRoRIsm” and its derivatives to Ms than the care taken to avoid that term when referring to the very same act with very similar factors committed by somebody affiliated with a belief-system not identified as Islāmic.
And yep, they don’t invoke the term “Christian nationalist”, either. But they’ve learned to invoke ‘white supremacist’ and are taking baby-steps to call the mass-murders committed by them as ‘white supremacist terrorism’, as well. No progress on terming individual-attacks as such, I’ll give ya that.
This trend has been increasing recentally in India to comment on historical events and historical personalities to make adverse comments on them without deep indepth study or knowledge of the events and the circumstances prevailed in the relevant time period. However, such people neither do good to the country nor to the humanity. By doing this they can appease their godfathers or satisfy their ego only. Without human values only nationalism can not satisfy needs of human beings. Truth prevails ultimately and hiding or distorting the truth by any media foreign or indegenous is a crime against humanity. Who knows the adversely affected party next time may be any one of us !
recently* There! FTFY ?
Ahh…
Wish you could’ve been more clearer, than choosing to be THAT subtle. Also, it should say ‘homegrown’ instead of “indigenous”.
A bunch of foreign journos bankrolled by their masters to spew hate,bias and insult on India and Indians. Dancing to their tunes are a bunch of Indian journos eating away like termites the spirit of Indians by concoting negative narratives to fill their own power vacuum and coffers..absolutely appalling and third rate! Other than nuisance value this lot of urban naxals have never given anything worth even mentioning!
Odd that you say that for an author who gets triggered by a neutral-phrase.( Launching into your own spiel of buzzwords and all. As if it’s so original.)
Also..
Last[ time] I checked: Late Sir Orwell was no Patanjali®-accredited Swadesi, either.
Marxists and communists like you may have sold your souls to foreigners for a few crumbs they throw at you, but the rest of us have our self respect intact. NYT and BBC might be gospel to you, but to us they are nothing but information war wing of imperial forces.
Shekhar ji allowed you to publish this article is a surprise to me. He, being a blind invisible supporter of Modi has taken a great risk of loosing govt favours. Nonetheless you have covered foreign journalists, national scenerio is still worst. Really it’s a very very difficult time for brave journalists, barring those who surrendered to Modi for reasons known to them.
@Pal Singh: Uh-huh?!?
Did you comment at the wrong place?!?
And whatcha on about, you’re claiming( if not accusing) a veteran journo of being a covert “NaMo” fanboy, even though he’s been mocked as “Coupta Ji( language consciously-uncensored) and derided with anti-Left slurs for years by the overt “fan[atic]s”/“st[alking f]an[atic]s” of ‘The Messiah'[ by now]?!?
Alright, let’s assume for the sake of argument — that the NYT® and the BBC®, both of them are corrupt to the core..
…And yes..
…Irrespective of your own biases towards the NATO-led “War on tErRoR”, most-prominently.
But what do you say on the rest?
Or at least, that press-outlet also foreign to the Uncle Sam — which was “accidentally” targeted by the forces of brands Freedom® & Democracy® though the pure State Terrorism of bombing and assassination, with leaked-indictments of more to come? Are they also disseminating “imperialism”?
Overall one can agree on the point of view expressed by the author of the article. The reference to the IFS official was certainly not justified in the present case. Diplomatic immunity does not justify and does not allow everything. That said, there is one point that is not addressed by this article is the role of the country’s diplomatic posts abroad to represent him. Often in the main capitals the head of the diplomatic mission does not speak the language of the country where he is posted. Then he does not express himself in the press of the country. The means exist to justify and explain the policy of the country represented. But that is not done. And yet there are in these diplomatic posts advisers in charge of communication. What is the use of these advisers who invest in tourism or trade. These are certainly important activities. But the first role of a diplomatic post and its leader is to take a stand to defend the policy of his country in the audio-visual means of the host country, when it is contested. On this side, the reactivity of China and Russia when their interests are questioned must be studied and taught at the IFS, and not only the proper use of diplomatic immunity !!!!
“represent him” or ‘her’?
Also, it’s striking that you referenced Diplomat Devyāni’s case but continued the old-fashion phraseology of referring an official designation strictly by masculine-pronoun.
Unfortunately, it’s pretty much the case in official-communication and even in Legalese..
But your personal-comment, it just.. I can’t!
And I totally agree with your take on this op-ed but a-gain, can’t agree on the your remark about Mr Ramesh Thakur’s entry on The Wire®. As, it might be said that he is wrong to equate the plight of a labour-abuser with the cases of sugar-coating literal torture and even, the perennial-Russophobia in Occidental, particularly Murican press rearing its ugly-head in the Crimean liberation( rare to hear it in English-language, no?) — but the coverage was overall one-sided. And yes, I also recognise that it could be given to the presumption of “voice to the voiceless” edict and the publications also can’t be sensibly accused of casteism as a counter( which indeed occurred!) since the vast-majority of op-eds were written either anonymously( cf. “/Our Take/View”) or from non-Indian journalists, let alone upper-caste reporters of Indian descent.
And she should have spoken-up for herself, and there would be something if in spite of her defending herself in public — the publications would’ve consciously avoided or underreported her commenters, but the fact remains that she didn’t. Needless to add, if you’re way too guilty-as-charged — you’re counseled to keep your trap shut so..
Did you not know that fake news is hidden behind in a clever way to hide the truth? Today most sources in for the New York Times and BBC are Pakistani interests. They do not bother even to verify the news item. The sources are not questioned. Some in Lutyens Delhi also aid because they do not like Modi and his spectacular win in 2014 and only three months back in 2019…….. shame on the Western Media including their Lutyen sources.
Whoa, whoa, whoa..
And your own source [ for these intentioned-canards] is, lemme guess.. ZEE® NEWS’ WION®?
Or the likes of The Pioneer®, REPUBLIC® Media Network, TIMES® [N][O][W] or NewsX®, et al.?
If not some overseas-based think-tank, to be sure.
I agree with John Elliott’ views. Our country suffers from inferiority complex. Socialist moron Nehru thought India was world number 1 country and himself as the greatest prime minister the world has ever seen. Our country fails to understand that ours is a mere two penny third class corrupt socialist backward poor country. But our leaders want to project her as a super duper fully developed advanced capitalist industrialised powerful country. There is no shame in accepting what we are. Broken roads, footpaths and open drains are what defines our country and I’m proud of it.
Socialist, yes, Moron, no. The respect India received globally was due in part – will not get into measuring it – to the aura of PM Nehru. He made the world realise that there was a lot more to India than poverty and illiteracy and all the other factors he struggled over two decades in office to overcome. History will judge him more kindly than the troll armies.
It’s a myth that Nehru struggled to overcome poverty and illiteracy. In fact he perpetuated both, by starting the trend of loss making Public sector units, run with tax payer’s money, thereby ensuring poverty. His monumental blunder in ignoring primary education ensured that even now India is paying a price for it. If there ever is a ranking of Indian Prime Ministers, then Nehru stands right at the bottom, thanks to all the original sins he committed.
Air India has made a loss of 4,600 crores last year, 54 years after Panditji boarded his last flight.
Enhancing self esteem became delusion in India. More so after 2014.. 5000 years old Plastic surgeon’s accomplishments started appearing in press conferences. Monkey head stitched to human body became the only cross spices surgery known to mankind.
@Vish: Yikes!
You sound like a Libertarian.
And by that, you might as well start saying that the farmers talking their own lives must be left to themselves since they’re losers by the market-forces, no?
I mean, I could go on but..
Won’t ya?
Yikes!
From the said dominant Indian perspective: That does sound unreasonably-harsh.
Also..
From a psycho-positive perspective: Your cliché reliance on a word which was once a clinical-term doesn’t help to reflect intellectual-rigour on your part.
cross-species* There! FTFY ?
Bwahahahahaha!
Well said. Hail Āryavartha!
If we want international approval and praise, perhaps things have to be much better on the ground. Difficult to recall the last full throated report in any respected western media outlet that is full of praise and admiration. Not easy being an Indian diplomat abroad, engaging constructively with the media.
Ashok ji – it isn’t about approval or praise. It is about the perceptions that are created all over the world by the media. We need to do our best to ensure that our perspective is also heard around the world. In the absence of our perspective, people all over the world will hear only a negative perspective. Let’s at least ensure that we are heard.
Even those who think that the ground situation needs to be improved are also missing the point. For instance, you hear the 8 million number being mentioned repeatedly. Well that number should be a lot less because it is for the entire state but there are large parts of the state where there are no restrictions. Malala just tweeted that the school children of the entire state haven’t been able to go so school, when in fact this is only true in a few parts. In every situation, no matter how difficult, we need to put our perspective out without any reservations or fear.
{1-for-2 reply:
}Hey…! Mr “@ashok”.
Here we ‘meet’ a-gain.
A) Whose “Himāchali whiskey” are you referring to?
B) Yep, unless it’s sponsored by Incredible India® or some Indian bazillionaire with Con/RW sympathies. ?
But to be serious, I dunno how you consider the AJE®( mentioned directly, and once in the article) on your take of “respected” and what’s “praise and admiration” of The Power in the your spectrum of my head, I can recall a documentary miniseries on ALJAZEERA®[ back when it was not licensed to air in India and few years since the India’s MIB tightened its grip on the booming DTH industry to desist from giving space to unlicensed channels, particularly those “originating” from the likes of Pākistān*] which aired across the span of a month( 4-part) within mere 2 years of its launch and it was subsequently also syndicated by Discovery® [ ?CHANNEL ] India within 9 months[ of the premiere on one of AJE®’s documentary-strands] and the news-coverage of the same( definitely not a basic PR!) included a laudatory-wisecrack towards the broadcaster by its key-subject.
C) C’mon…! Have some pity for the amount of critical-thinking DPRK’s diplomats face. Ohhh… Wait!
*Although, the far-reaching edict couldn’t be enforced efficiently on locally-based pay TV service-providers — the Local Cable Operators. Since they were the only established medium for curated-TV provision back then, as IPTV was just launching and still-minute HITS was just announced. ‘Course, by now: As is pretty common with law-enforcement in India, it has now been efficiently enforced the LCOs, as well. As the so-called cable TV digitisation has taken the power[ of running a headend] away from mostly tax-evading LCOs and granted it to the franchise-issuing Multi-System Operators( MSOs).
On a lighter note, one is not sure gentleman waited for night to fall to enjoy his whisky. He also loved his Himachali fried trout.
BBC to New York Times – Why Indian governments have always been wary of foreign press ? Why not ask why Indians need foreign accounts at all, legal or illegal ? What is more important ? Other than Shastri and Modi how many Indian Prime Ministers have an impeccable personal image as Clean ? Have we heard of Reagan’s, Clintons, Bushes, Thatchers Markels and Abes having foreign account, in India ? This is the first reason Why Indian governments have always been wary of foreign press.
Unity in diversity has to be maintained before a culture of that is imbibed. There are always vested interests who would not want that even if it means taking help of the foreign press, and to take care of that some steps are necessary. The intellectuals will not talk of the corrupt leaders but run down the country otherwise. Then we have the Gora Sahibs living like lords, with servants and drivers they would not be able to afford at home, claiming to know this country better than all of us and are glorified by the a special class of hangers on.
First of all: You shoulda recalled to take ample breaths..
…In typing your bile.( Spelling-out: The punctuation!)
As for all of the leaders specifically nitpicked( I assume the last-one is Modi( no salutation!)’s Japanese counterpart) have foreign account, by the very Indian press!
Too bad that you’re just-another amongst the masses who don’t consume much of the sufficiently-supreme Indian press to have a genuine, informed-take. Much less Prasar Bharati®’s own output.
There has to be zero tolerance for fake news whether it is BBC or New York Times or some other media outlets. More than 90% are from tertiary sources and opinions are contrived to suit particular agendas. It will be ridiculous to say that foreign media correspondents are certified angels.
It’ll be far more ludicrous to even believe that the contemporary Indian press, particularly the so-called “electronic media” — represent any tenet of old-school Journalism.