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Why are Indians so obsessed with the land of Pakistan? Obsessed with Pakistan celebrities? Sikhs obsessed with Lahore? Hindus obsessed with Gilgit? Indians should stop being jealous of Pakistan Muslims. They were favored by the British because even Winston Churchill stated that the Muslims are better class of people than Indian Hindus and Sikhs.
India should focus on conquering their similar cultured neighbours such as Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Stop bullying Pakistan.
PAKISTAN A SORRY STATE…THEIR EXISTENCE BEGINS WITH INDIA AND ENDS WITH INDIA..THEIR FRIENDS BEGIN WITH THE ENEMIES OF INDIA AND END WITH AGAIN THE ENEMIES OF INDIA…THEIR ISLAM BEGINS WITH HATRED FOR INDIA AND HINDU AND ENDS WITH IT…THEY HAVE NO INDIVIDUAL EXISTENCE…THEY ARE JUST A CONGLOMERATION OF PSYCHOLOGICALLY DISABLED AND DELIRIOUS ZOMBIES WHO OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE GOT DILUTED WITHIN INDIA…ANYWAYS, SO, WOULD THEY EVER MIND “CHINA” NIBBLING ON THEIR FLESH?!!
The lies they teach indians in their text books about Kashmir will haunt them for a long time to come.
Kashmir, simply is a Muslim majority state that was bound to joint Pakistan according to the rules of Partition of subcontinent. Just because the British had their tax collector, Gulab Singh’s family installed there doesn’t not make it India’s part.
Correct your historical wrongs; Pakistan may not be a poor country forever.
You should worry about India becoming what Pakistan had been for the last 50years or so, a puppet of USA. Last couple of years has proved that it’s well on it’s way and last couple of months have proven that it will receive same treatment from uncle Sam 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hindustan’s obsession with Pakistan is laughable. Hindustan should worry about how China has taken control of the territory that Hindustan has always claimed as its own. But then, if you bring in Pakistan into the discussion, it will alleviate pressure from the actual discussion.
we think the same about pakistan, when your politicians mention about india every other day, and the social media users have to bring in india in whatver topics are being discussed. unfortunate but true. whether an educated person should bother about it, is another matter. ultimately its the politics that divide people.
Gadhe k poot Kashmir pe to tum bhi claim krte ho. To agar China kabza krta h to teri hi to Zameen Jati h Gandu ki aulad.
Aur sooar ki Akal k malik. Kashmir chahe hamare paas h ya tumhare paas, h to Parivar me hi na. Tum saale ullu k pathon ne shaksgam valley China ko dedi. Tumse achcha to purkhon ki virasat hum hi sambhal Lete.
The name says it all and any objectivity you can associate with this piece when the writer’ name is tara kartha …. what a joke of an article this!!
That was just past. What awaits Pakistan at hands of China is even worse. China has been in a constant state of expansion gobbling up neighbors, friends and tributary states for last 2000 years. For them even a tributary state today/past is a part of China in future/present. Future Chinese generations will read and learn that Pakistan got unified with China in 2017. Chinese will outnumber locals in places like Gilgit-Baltistan, Baluchistan etc. Then what will happen to Muslims of Pakistan will exactly be same as whats happening to Uyghur Muslims of Xinjiang!
You should have taken Kashmir yourself if you were so concerned about china taking the land.. and most people in Pakistan dont want to work or they dont have resources and knowledge that chinese workers have for working on cpec.. yes its a looming danger because an open enemy is not as dangerous as a friend who if turned against you can cause so much damage.
Claiming territories once occupied by GB is like trying to claiming both sons of your ex-wife when only one was your real son. Especially when your ex-wife forced adopted the other son illegally. In fact, India has been occupied lots of land that belongs it’s smaller northern neighbors. While I don’t think China has sufficient historical facts to claim ownership of the land but it certainly has more rights than India. India trying to inherit property stolen from GB is simply insane.
Not sure why Indian commentators talk about a Chinese betrayal even now. China has always made it’s hostility to India very clear. There is no Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai sentiment. Whether instigating India’s neighbors, opposing it’s admission to the NSG, propping up Pakistan, making encroachments into the LAC despite agreements China had never hidden it’s intent. If the Indian leadership prefers to wear blinkers and swing with Xi Jinping then it’s hardly China’s fault. Fool me once shame on you keep fooling me then shame on me.
Both India & Pakistan are foolish towards each other………..the whole world enjoys & takes advantage of their stupidity by selling arms, nuclear reactors etc. where as masses in both countries are devoid of basic toilets, health , educational services. Kashmir dispute should have been resolved in 1948 in what ever form. If Punjab & Bengal could be divided in 1947 then some solution should have been found for Kashmir. Leaving Kashmir as a festering wound was plain stupidity as future of peace between India & Pakistan has become hostage to this ongoing dispute which other countries like China are fully exploiting !!!
Countries are not persons. They neither laugh nor weep.If they have a good government they follow pragmatic policies that benefit the majority of their people and indeed the world but that is still an ideal. If they have a bad government a few exploit the majority by slogans like Islamism or Hindutva. Another way to exploit the masses is to paint pictures of imaginary past grandeurs. Both Pakistan and India came into existence in 1947 only but boast about their imaginary ancient history and so egg on their people to engage in useless conflicts that benefit a few exploiters as the masses suffer. In both countries the expenditure on healthcare ,education and infrastructure is miniscule compared to that on the military. Nehru is still abused for limiting military expenditure although it was that which made initial development of India possible of which India is still reaping the benefits.Science predicts that much of India and Pakistan will be destroyed within a century by global warming but the leaders in both countries who live by exploitation find it in their best interests to keep mum about it and just go about their business of exploiting the poor masses.Being selfish(exploiters are always selfish) they have little interest in posterity.
Nehru not only neglected defence but also agriculture, healthcare and primary education. He was more keen on allocating tax payers money to his wasteful public sector enterprises. He was unable to even improve his home state or his parliamentary constituency leave alone rest of the country.
What a joke!!! Learn history fool. India i.e Bharat did not come to existence in 1947 you illiterate, India is the oldest continuing civilization on the face of this planet. We have a historic continuity of over 10,000 years. China is just like a newborn baby when compared to India.
Chinese history is just an extension of the great Indian history. Even the ancient chinese literature and traditions affirmed this fact. Get some knowledge before you start writing you wannabe historian!
What a joke!!! Learn history fool
What a joke!!! Learn history fool.
I am sorry if I made a foolish remark. I do not blame you.Let me put the facts down for it seems that you like millions of others including some very intelligent persons have been influenced by the fake propaganda of some extremist groups like the RSS. Written history dates no earlier than the invention of the cuneiform script in 3200 B.C. in Mesopotamia. That is about 5000 years ago. For earlier Prehistory we need other sources.Apart from archaeologists for this we are indebted to David Reich and his coworkers who pioneered the use of genetic studies to unravel mysteries of our evolution and spread and particularly for India we are also indebted to Dr Laljee and Dr.Thangaraj who provided Dr.Reich with blood samples from every nook and corner of India and so helped to unravel the India story.Indians like all other persons have a history dating back to not 10,000 but to about 50,000 years when man i.e. Homo sapiens sapiens who evolved in Africa developed some features which allowed him to out compete all other man like creatures on earth. Indeed all humans outside Africa have just one woman as their ancestor.
The humans who came out of Africa naturally had their first halting place in what is today called Arabia or Middle East. From there they spread from Turkey westwards to Europe and from Iran Eastwards to the whole of Asia. The first comers from Africa who are today represented by a tiny group in Andaman Islands were 10,000 years back spread over most of South Asia ( India) to the North and West. 10,000 years back an important change was occurring in South Asia( India), as well as many other parts of the world and that was the beginning of agriculture. Till then South Asians (Indians) like all other people were hunter gatherers. Apart from South Asia( India )persons out of Africa had settled into many other regions including present day Iran..They too started trickling into South Asia via Mehargarh in Baluchistan about that time. I have intentionally used the term South Asia as 10,000 years ago the term India or Pakistan or Burma did not exist and we have no inkling of the language spoken in this region at that time. Slowly their mixing with their ancient brethren from Africa who had settled in South Asia gave rise to the Harappan civilization. However the story needed one more influx of originally African people who had settled in Siberian steppes and they (Strictly speaking their menfolk) came to South Asia around 1900 BCE i.e about 4000 years ago. They were horsemen and had chariots and are called Aryans.There were other migrations from China which preceded them and brought Austroasiatic languages to South Asia. So South Asia has a rich human past dating to the spread of man from Africa 50000 years ago but the modern Nation States of India ,Pakistan,Burma etc came into existence only after the disintegration of the British Empire. Early Indians by Tony Joseph is a very readable book that gives a good account of this fascinating story.
If Nehru didnot want to spend on military, then he should have settled the J&K issue either way with Pakistan and McMohan line boundary issue with China in early 50s itself. He vacillated and neither did he have any agreements with Pakistan and China nor did he care to defend what was believed to be Indian territory. Given our Constitutions and having issued a formal map of India in 1950, we are now bound to protect what we have and get back what is lost. So the conflicts with both Pakistan and China are inevitable and we need to spend enough to defend ourselves solidly. Let us not live in a make believe world.
Remember what L.K.Advani did to prevent any agreement of Vajpayee with Musharraf. Vajpayee could no stand up before hidden hands. The same hidden hands were equally powerful in Nehru’s time though invisible because they represented the National Conscience while Nehru like Jinnah was an Englishman pretending to be Indian.There was nothing Indian or Pakistani in Nehru or Jinnah. Zia was the first real Pakistani President and Modi is the first real Indian Prime Minister.
Pakistan’s is a case of cut the nose to spite the face. Or, rather, I don’t mind losing one eye, if the enemy is going to lose both the eyes. India did not even show guts to recover PoK immediately after its occupation by Pakistan. Nehru did not even attempt to diplomatically bring pressure on Pakistan to vacate PoK. He was busy solving problems of Africa, South America, Korea etc. Now, I don’t think that India can every recover this land. Forget Axai Chin. It is simply ruled out.
Why are Indians so obsessed with the land of Pakistan? Obsessed with Pakistan celebrities? Sikhs obsessed with Lahore? Hindus obsessed with Gilgit? Indians should stop being jealous of Pakistan Muslims. They were favored by the British because even Winston Churchill stated that the Muslims are better class of people than Indian Hindus and Sikhs.
India should focus on conquering their similar cultured neighbours such as Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Stop bullying Pakistan.
PAKISTAN A SORRY STATE…THEIR EXISTENCE BEGINS WITH INDIA AND ENDS WITH INDIA..THEIR FRIENDS BEGIN WITH THE ENEMIES OF INDIA AND END WITH AGAIN THE ENEMIES OF INDIA…THEIR ISLAM BEGINS WITH HATRED FOR INDIA AND HINDU AND ENDS WITH IT…THEY HAVE NO INDIVIDUAL EXISTENCE…THEY ARE JUST A CONGLOMERATION OF PSYCHOLOGICALLY DISABLED AND DELIRIOUS ZOMBIES WHO OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE GOT DILUTED WITHIN INDIA…ANYWAYS, SO, WOULD THEY EVER MIND “CHINA” NIBBLING ON THEIR FLESH?!!
The lies they teach indians in their text books about Kashmir will haunt them for a long time to come.
Kashmir, simply is a Muslim majority state that was bound to joint Pakistan according to the rules of Partition of subcontinent. Just because the British had their tax collector, Gulab Singh’s family installed there doesn’t not make it India’s part.
Correct your historical wrongs; Pakistan may not be a poor country forever.
Just does prevail in the end.
You should worry about India becoming what Pakistan had been for the last 50years or so, a puppet of USA. Last couple of years has proved that it’s well on it’s way and last couple of months have proven that it will receive same treatment from uncle Sam 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hindustan’s obsession with Pakistan is laughable. Hindustan should worry about how China has taken control of the territory that Hindustan has always claimed as its own. But then, if you bring in Pakistan into the discussion, it will alleviate pressure from the actual discussion.
we think the same about pakistan, when your politicians mention about india every other day, and the social media users have to bring in india in whatver topics are being discussed. unfortunate but true. whether an educated person should bother about it, is another matter. ultimately its the politics that divide people.
Gadhe k poot Kashmir pe to tum bhi claim krte ho. To agar China kabza krta h to teri hi to Zameen Jati h Gandu ki aulad.
Aur sooar ki Akal k malik. Kashmir chahe hamare paas h ya tumhare paas, h to Parivar me hi na. Tum saale ullu k pathon ne shaksgam valley China ko dedi. Tumse achcha to purkhon ki virasat hum hi sambhal Lete.
The name says it all and any objectivity you can associate with this piece when the writer’ name is tara kartha …. what a joke of an article this!!
That was just past. What awaits Pakistan at hands of China is even worse. China has been in a constant state of expansion gobbling up neighbors, friends and tributary states for last 2000 years. For them even a tributary state today/past is a part of China in future/present. Future Chinese generations will read and learn that Pakistan got unified with China in 2017. Chinese will outnumber locals in places like Gilgit-Baltistan, Baluchistan etc. Then what will happen to Muslims of Pakistan will exactly be same as whats happening to Uyghur Muslims of Xinjiang!
You should have taken Kashmir yourself if you were so concerned about china taking the land.. and most people in Pakistan dont want to work or they dont have resources and knowledge that chinese workers have for working on cpec.. yes its a looming danger because an open enemy is not as dangerous as a friend who if turned against you can cause so much damage.
Claiming territories once occupied by GB is like trying to claiming both sons of your ex-wife when only one was your real son. Especially when your ex-wife forced adopted the other son illegally. In fact, India has been occupied lots of land that belongs it’s smaller northern neighbors. While I don’t think China has sufficient historical facts to claim ownership of the land but it certainly has more rights than India. India trying to inherit property stolen from GB is simply insane.
Not sure why Indian commentators talk about a Chinese betrayal even now. China has always made it’s hostility to India very clear. There is no Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai sentiment. Whether instigating India’s neighbors, opposing it’s admission to the NSG, propping up Pakistan, making encroachments into the LAC despite agreements China had never hidden it’s intent. If the Indian leadership prefers to wear blinkers and swing with Xi Jinping then it’s hardly China’s fault. Fool me once shame on you keep fooling me then shame on me.
Both India & Pakistan are foolish towards each other………..the whole world enjoys & takes advantage of their stupidity by selling arms, nuclear reactors etc. where as masses in both countries are devoid of basic toilets, health , educational services. Kashmir dispute should have been resolved in 1948 in what ever form. If Punjab & Bengal could be divided in 1947 then some solution should have been found for Kashmir. Leaving Kashmir as a festering wound was plain stupidity as future of peace between India & Pakistan has become hostage to this ongoing dispute which other countries like China are fully exploiting !!!
Countries are not persons. They neither laugh nor weep.If they have a good government they follow pragmatic policies that benefit the majority of their people and indeed the world but that is still an ideal. If they have a bad government a few exploit the majority by slogans like Islamism or Hindutva. Another way to exploit the masses is to paint pictures of imaginary past grandeurs. Both Pakistan and India came into existence in 1947 only but boast about their imaginary ancient history and so egg on their people to engage in useless conflicts that benefit a few exploiters as the masses suffer. In both countries the expenditure on healthcare ,education and infrastructure is miniscule compared to that on the military. Nehru is still abused for limiting military expenditure although it was that which made initial development of India possible of which India is still reaping the benefits.Science predicts that much of India and Pakistan will be destroyed within a century by global warming but the leaders in both countries who live by exploitation find it in their best interests to keep mum about it and just go about their business of exploiting the poor masses.Being selfish(exploiters are always selfish) they have little interest in posterity.
Nehru not only neglected defence but also agriculture, healthcare and primary education. He was more keen on allocating tax payers money to his wasteful public sector enterprises. He was unable to even improve his home state or his parliamentary constituency leave alone rest of the country.
What a joke!!! Learn history fool. India i.e Bharat did not come to existence in 1947 you illiterate, India is the oldest continuing civilization on the face of this planet. We have a historic continuity of over 10,000 years. China is just like a newborn baby when compared to India.
Chinese history is just an extension of the great Indian history. Even the ancient chinese literature and traditions affirmed this fact. Get some knowledge before you start writing you wannabe historian!
What a joke!!! Learn history fool
What a joke!!! Learn history fool.
I am sorry if I made a foolish remark. I do not blame you.Let me put the facts down for it seems that you like millions of others including some very intelligent persons have been influenced by the fake propaganda of some extremist groups like the RSS. Written history dates no earlier than the invention of the cuneiform script in 3200 B.C. in Mesopotamia. That is about 5000 years ago. For earlier Prehistory we need other sources.Apart from archaeologists for this we are indebted to David Reich and his coworkers who pioneered the use of genetic studies to unravel mysteries of our evolution and spread and particularly for India we are also indebted to Dr Laljee and Dr.Thangaraj who provided Dr.Reich with blood samples from every nook and corner of India and so helped to unravel the India story.Indians like all other persons have a history dating back to not 10,000 but to about 50,000 years when man i.e. Homo sapiens sapiens who evolved in Africa developed some features which allowed him to out compete all other man like creatures on earth. Indeed all humans outside Africa have just one woman as their ancestor.
The humans who came out of Africa naturally had their first halting place in what is today called Arabia or Middle East. From there they spread from Turkey westwards to Europe and from Iran Eastwards to the whole of Asia. The first comers from Africa who are today represented by a tiny group in Andaman Islands were 10,000 years back spread over most of South Asia ( India) to the North and West. 10,000 years back an important change was occurring in South Asia( India), as well as many other parts of the world and that was the beginning of agriculture. Till then South Asians (Indians) like all other people were hunter gatherers. Apart from South Asia( India )persons out of Africa had settled into many other regions including present day Iran..They too started trickling into South Asia via Mehargarh in Baluchistan about that time. I have intentionally used the term South Asia as 10,000 years ago the term India or Pakistan or Burma did not exist and we have no inkling of the language spoken in this region at that time. Slowly their mixing with their ancient brethren from Africa who had settled in South Asia gave rise to the Harappan civilization. However the story needed one more influx of originally African people who had settled in Siberian steppes and they (Strictly speaking their menfolk) came to South Asia around 1900 BCE i.e about 4000 years ago. They were horsemen and had chariots and are called Aryans.There were other migrations from China which preceded them and brought Austroasiatic languages to South Asia. So South Asia has a rich human past dating to the spread of man from Africa 50000 years ago but the modern Nation States of India ,Pakistan,Burma etc came into existence only after the disintegration of the British Empire. Early Indians by Tony Joseph is a very readable book that gives a good account of this fascinating story.
If Nehru didnot want to spend on military, then he should have settled the J&K issue either way with Pakistan and McMohan line boundary issue with China in early 50s itself. He vacillated and neither did he have any agreements with Pakistan and China nor did he care to defend what was believed to be Indian territory. Given our Constitutions and having issued a formal map of India in 1950, we are now bound to protect what we have and get back what is lost. So the conflicts with both Pakistan and China are inevitable and we need to spend enough to defend ourselves solidly. Let us not live in a make believe world.
Remember what L.K.Advani did to prevent any agreement of Vajpayee with Musharraf. Vajpayee could no stand up before hidden hands. The same hidden hands were equally powerful in Nehru’s time though invisible because they represented the National Conscience while Nehru like Jinnah was an Englishman pretending to be Indian.There was nothing Indian or Pakistani in Nehru or Jinnah. Zia was the first real Pakistani President and Modi is the first real Indian Prime Minister.
Pakistan’s is a case of cut the nose to spite the face. Or, rather, I don’t mind losing one eye, if the enemy is going to lose both the eyes. India did not even show guts to recover PoK immediately after its occupation by Pakistan. Nehru did not even attempt to diplomatically bring pressure on Pakistan to vacate PoK. He was busy solving problems of Africa, South America, Korea etc. Now, I don’t think that India can every recover this land. Forget Axai Chin. It is simply ruled out.
Gobar chuckles happily when Ghointha (Cow dung cake) smoldered in fire. Gobar hanse jab ghointha jwale….