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Finally, an articulate and no-nonsense approach to addressing the damn elephant in the room….thank you Print, and Aabhas ! He has said everything that I and most others that read Zainab’s piece were thinking of, but weren’t articulate enough to express.
Absolutely brilliant article. But the problem is complex. Even if some Muslims were to initiate “Not in my name” movement, our Liberals, Leftists, Congress and Democrats would brand them as reactionaries and dismiss them. Imam Tawhidi, Tarek Fatah etc are branded Sanghis while Owaisi, Zakir Naik and such people are true representatives of Islam for the Liberals. How can we expect reforms ?
Islam cannot be reformed. It must be rejected wholesale by entire humanity. Muslims should actually launch protest against islam itself, not (purported) right or wrong interpretations of quran.
Islam must be named and shamed for the evil religion that it is.
I kid you not, I’ve talked to Muslims online who think a drawing of MoMo is LITERALLY no different than sexually assaulting / raping someone’s mother. Voltaire coined it best with ‘Fanaticism’
A positive thought, definitely. Changes have to come from within. Ancient texts are just that – ancient. Change is the only constant. You can’t move forward in reverse/neutral gears.
Zazinab is an aboveground operative and apologist for the evil supremacist hatefilled cult founded by the genocidal, misogynist, slave trader, rapist pedophile.
Hehe , Moderate muslim???? Have you heard their taqiyya? Its halal to deceive kafir for the glory of Islam . Do not ever try to trust them. Merkel is a traitor who sacrifice her people for her ideals. European people have became spoiled, deluded in their ideals. That’s why they always complained about chinese, asian, indian robbed their job. Wake up, European people! I’m a chinese descendant living in muslim majority country. Many temples have been burned, many churches have been closed down, some town prohibits x-mas and even family ritual was prohibited, and bakery cannot display x-mas cake if they want Halal certificate. Tolerant ?? Haha , it;s just they perform taqiyya!
Malaysia is islamist ghetto, islam is evil, muhammad was genocidal misogynist pedophile. What to expect from such demon?
Brilliantly written, but completely wasted effort as it will have no effect on those for whom this article is intended. Is there a single Muslim who has come out in support of what the author has written in the comments section? How many Muslim journalists, and there are a few in The Print itself, have condemned the beheadings without whataboutry? In fact Zainab Sikandar told a lie when she wrote that “Dharma” is equivalent to religion. Is her knowledge indeed so shallow that she thinks that Kurukshetra War was about religion? And now think how that article made it past the editorial team, assuming that The Print has one.
Zainab Sikander is a frivolous writer. It is giving her too much respect and credence to rebut her silly writing so elaborately. But, the writer is bang on the point when leads arguments to conclude that Image of Muhammad lies in the hands of Muslims. Is murdering the supposed offenders only way of conlcuding an argument? Anyway, in Gita 2.33, Krishna advises waging war as a warrior’s duty. It is not prescribed for every follower of Hinduism. Anyway, in thousands of years, none has understood the defence and description of wars in Hindu scriptures as licence to go around beheading the supposed offenders.
Excellent articulation by Aabhas ji in response to false equivalence between messages of Koran and Gita and interpretations by followers. Co existence of different faiths needs acceptance by all. Leaders and followers of any religion , who believe they are superior and their scriptures give them right to rule the world by killing others or by conversion are the real problems. This will face more resistance in the times to Come. Clearly responsibility lies with the believers of coexistence to raise their voice.
A few things got cleared – 1. Islam = Right to get offended and justify taking law in individual’s hand.
2. Muslims simply don’t care. This author does not even have 0.00000001% impact on Muslims with simply compared with Zakir Naik.
3. Comments from non-Muslims – if you read first 2 comments right, you rather worry for self and author. Expect no change in behaviour of Zainab and likes of her. Because of likes of Zakir Naik and secularist.
Not only Islam, they publish material which may offend all religions! Others let it pass! It is the Muslims who respond and such responses may include beheadings and acts of violence!!
Is their Muslim response per Quran? Please read on:
What blasphemy Law?
The Quran informs the reader that the Prophet was mocked, ridiculed (37:12) like the messengers before him (13:32; 15:11; 21:41). He was called an inventor, forger, a liar (16:101; 25:4), a man who was bewitched (17:47; 25:8), that he was a possessed poet (37:36). Insults were even hurled at the Quran, in that it was called ‘muddled dreams’ (21:5), ‘foreign, outlandish’ (16:103), an invention, a forgery (38:7) and tales of the men of the past (25:5).
However, the single most grave blasphemy was undoubtedly the blasphemy against God Himself.
7.180 “The most beautiful names belong to God: so call on him by them; but shun such men as use profanity (Arabic: Yul’hiduna) in His names: for what they do, they will soon be requited”
At no point did any of these insults attract the death penalty.
Rather, the advice was:
38.017 “Be patient over what they say and remember our servant David, the man of strength for he was repeatedly turning (to God)”
20.130 “Therefore be patient with what they say, and celebrate (constantly) the praises of thy Lord, before the rising of the sun and before its setting, yea, celebrate them for part of the hours of the night, and at the sides of the day: that you may have (spiritual) joy”
Whether repeated insults and evil transgression which incite hatred, terrorism and evil in the land can be classed as ‘fasaad’ remains a matter for the state to decide. However, this is very different from the general ‘blasphemy’ understood by many Muslims today who believe it correct to murder anyone for uttering anything against the Prophet.
So, God ask for help to his creatures? Isn’t that God is Supreme and himself created even no believers? For that case, God himself is capable of punishing those insulting him, but as you are being at his meet, and choose to fight to save him from blasphemoy, then you are clearly supporting the argue of nobelievers as they say , all the Gods and his so called Holly books are man made fictions..Instead of asking for mass destruction just arrange mass prays and. Ask God to interference ..
except MoMo was a fraud given how he failed miserably at the previous covenant. In Judaism, GOD HIMSELF punished those who persecuted the Israelites, and when Israelites were told what they must do in order to prevent being enslaved again, and they found that horrific, and subsequently were enslaved again. Jesus was mocked but he didn’t hire a group of thugs to kill those who insulted him. The fact that Mohammed claims to have Jesus’ OK is CLEAR proof that he doesn’t know anything Jesus taught. He denied the civinity of Jesus and claimed he was just some kid who made clay birds. Mo is literally the Antichrist. and let’s not forget the insults and mocking Mohammed did of the Meccan pagans and their idols.
Thank you Print, you have redeemed yourself by bringing this to us. That means many more years of subscription.
Excellent rebuttal to the article. When I first read the article by Zainab . I was pained to learn that the beheading of an innocent teacher in the name of their religion doesn’t cause abhorrent shame for the entire community. Instead they rant by quoting inaccuracies veiled as authentic references. The very fact that perceived insult to their so called holy book enrages them more than loss of an innocent life in the most tragic way , considering the attacker was using islam’s holy words clearly shows where their priorities lie. Very rightly said that their job is to call out the extremists and tell the whole world the extremists view is not the right one . Obviously of course if that really is the case one always wonders.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome. Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50, London: Longmans, Green Co., 1899).
AAbhas, I wish we had more voices like you!! all the digital platforms are openly biased and do not recognize ideology and Indic voices like you.. Great article!!
Excellent one, someone who has the courage to write, without offending any religious sentiments of pious muslims, More voices of moderate liberal muslism will help free Islam being held hostate by fanatics. Stop trying to convince non muslims, first protest kiiling sbeing done in the name of Allah.
I agree. Aabhas needs to be congratulated for writing a nuanced article on this thorny issue. If we have to fight fundamentalism then moderate voices must gather strength to speak firmly against such acts of cruelty as indulged by the killer of French teacher. There needs to be strong ‘ not in my name’ movements to dispel perception of violence attached with Islam.
Thank you so much to the author writing this. He has courage and be safe. Sir in south news papers used to publish so many cartoons on Ganesh especially during Ganesh chaturdi. They mix with humor. Everyone one likes those cartoons. Btw hinduism is way of life. No hindu fought wars on religion they fought for dharma
Islam – offended by everything but ashamed of nothing.
People like Zainab Sikander are closet Islamists. They are happy when non-believers are beheaded or slaughtered but keep their glee hidden lest someone call them out for who they actually are.
However, if anyone from the Ummah becomes the target of violence and discrimination, they rail and rant.
Ours is a hidebound, traditionalist society mired not so much in physical backwardness as in mental backwardness. Only a sick society living in the past would indulge in the kind of extended Sharia debates which seem to be one of our regular pastimes. Ayaz Amir, 14/2/14 The News.
In an interview with the German daily Bild, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban defended his country’s refusal of an EU-wide refugee resettlement quota, saying that he believed refugees are “Muslim invaders.”
Orban also rejected the idea that Hungary should be open to accepting people from majority-Muslim countries, saying his country “doesn’t want to be forced.” “We believe that a large number of Muslims inevitably leads to parallel societies, because Christian and Muslim society will never unite,” Orban told the paper. “Multiculturalism is only an illusion,” he added.
Not sure who the author is preaching to. If it’s to Muslims then the truth is they don’t care, including the likes of Ms Zainab Sikandar. Does the author seriously think that Ms Sikandar or those of the ilk don’t already know what the author has written. The truth is that there are 2 types of Muslims one those who behead and the rest like Ms Sikandar who support the beheading. Anybody else is not considered a Muslim. Instead of trying to enlighten those who refuse to see the light, what is more important is the reaction of the non-Muslim world. Whether they accept the ifs, buts and whataboutery of those who justify beheading whilst drawing false comparisons or will stay resolute to the their own beliefs based on freedom of expression, liberty, equality and fraternity. Giving homilies to Muslims is pointless. They have made up their minds. It’s for the rest of the world to decide.
Muslims are probably the only sect that have brought woe onto themselves by their own heinous acts, steeped as they are in their religious bigotry. It is time they gave free thought a chance.
”Millions of Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Jews and Buddhists are also poor, illiterate and oppressed. Do they engage in terrorism, riots and bomb blasts, population explosion and jihad like Muslims do? ” Taslima Nasreen
Muslims must always be Muslims, but the rest of the world must be secular. Muslims must have the right to change the demography of every non-Muslim countries of the world, but non-Muslims cannot have any such rights. Muslims must have the right to abuse other religions, demolish their religious temples and churches, but others cannot have that right. Muslims have the right to kill others in a train or in a church, but non-Muslims cannot reciprocate.
Prophet Muhammad is the greatest in the history of humanity according to #lamartine a French native. Therefore it’s the responsibility of the non Muslims to first clearly understand the basic principles of Islam not to argue out of context because the personality of Osama bin laden can’t be muched with the Muhammad and at the same time, the whole religion of Islam will not be criminalised cose of his acts thus his greatness to the light of Muslims can’t be faded away by what is so called “expression of freedom of speech which is 100times younger than the book of the prophet. I only welcome wise sayings. Islam the truth religion.
Islam only right religion – lol, That’s the exact problem. Your faith is yours. If you want to impose your thinking on others, the matter will only be decided by war and this is why Muslims are always protesting for wrong reasons. If your prophet is great, show it by your community’s actions. As we can see from your words,you are a bigot and hater who is only loyal to ummah. Such ppl who cannot abide by nation state rules should move to an islamic country. Nothing wrong in saying this.
The life of muhammad shows clearly he was a robber at his very best and a scoundrel at his very worst. You muslims need to understand that.
Take it from me. ‘Not in my name ‘ protest won’t come in from Muslim community . All these secularism is only for Hindus.
This is a spiteful article written with a lot of hate and little knowledge and understanding of the religion. The author might be making references to scriptures to come across knowledgeable but seems clearly deluded.
You are a great example of what Abbas is talking about, lol
Please prove him wrong, if you can, with facts. Just writing English proves the hollowness of your rant.
It is the need of the day for moderate Muslims to come forward and take the leadership of Muslim minorities worldwide. Because if they failed the result would be catastrophic, as there would be polarization of Muslims resulting in counter-polarization of non-Muslims, which could lead to clash.
No such creature called the moderate Muslim exists. So the question of them taking the lead simply does not exist. The more extreme Muslims behead and the less extreme (moderate?) Muslims support the beheading.
Well said. Moderate Muslims need to come forward to unequivocally condemn fanatics.
as you have rightly mentioned, we have no problems with quran defending zainab sikabders and our problems are with extremists shouting allah -u- akbar.
but we are equally scared that the same zainab sikanders would take a foot if given an inch. if their likes are even given a glimpse of an opportunity, they will try their level best to impose their will on all non islamic countries and if possible convert them all into an islamic nation.
there in lies the danger to india.
that is why perhaps the so called rising hindhu militants believe that it is better that india becomes a militant hindhu state rather than a miltant islamic state.
It is a thoroughly researched reply.One wonders whether Zainab knew as much about Islamic theology as the present author.Obviously a scholarly counter.
A little unfair to ask 1.8 billion Muslims – one fourth of the world’s population – to take moral responsibility for what a microscopic minority is doing. Make a public spectacle of distancing themselves from acts of terror, which should not be classified / categorised as Islamic terrorism in the first place. Like young Muslim children being asked to wave the tricolour a lot more vigorously than their Hindu friends, whose patriotism is a given.
If that one fourth gives moral support to the acts of “microscopic minority”, then it is morally responsible for their actions. If you indulge in whataboutry, as Zainab Sikandar has done, you are morally responsible.
What about hindus/hindutvadis taking responsibility for lynchings (100 or so in a land of more tan a billion)which have always occurred in feudal/tribal parts but have suddenly come to media focus as an ‘indian’ problem as tho muslims here are unsafe in global media? Do you know how many hindus are lynched? perps of BOTH religions . Read the whole article. Answers your questions
Not unfair because they never do it. They never try to distance themselves from terrorists.
Thank you for arituculting so well almost all the thoughts that were in my mind when I read her article.
Oh My God! Couldn’t have expected better reply than this. Written in good context and facts. I must say Muslims should read this. They still follows Osama’s Quran and not Zainabs. Awesome.
Lol. Just like fighting Islamic terrorism is racism. And enforcing the law is islamophobia. You people will be corrected.
Where?
I hope this is sarcasm. The only hate is in you, that’s why you don’t have the facility of logical thought; you think in terms of identity and ‘stance’ not content and logic. Best of luck.
It is called truth. Learn to digest it.
Excellent Article. Once Again Aabhas has proved that he bring quality backed with facts . Well done. Keep it up
A big salute to the author from the depth of my heart. Its really a piece of intellectual and scholarly work though very short. It has torn off all of Zainab’s arguments for that matter most of the Muslim umma. I too agree that at least the so called moderate peace loving muslims should come out and say loud and clear “Not In May Name”. That will save lot for the humanity. Once again congratulations Mr. Aabhas.
You and your ###### proof …you drink milk wirh closed eyes doesn’t mean every one is in darkness. Here problems people like you are you got too close where in a position that make you blind. You can’t see anything
So watch from a distance where everything is visible then you can only see Humanity above all gods..
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Finally, an articulate and no-nonsense approach to addressing the damn elephant in the room….thank you Print, and Aabhas ! He has said everything that I and most others that read Zainab’s piece were thinking of, but weren’t articulate enough to express.
Absolutely brilliant article. But the problem is complex. Even if some Muslims were to initiate “Not in my name” movement, our Liberals, Leftists, Congress and Democrats would brand them as reactionaries and dismiss them. Imam Tawhidi, Tarek Fatah etc are branded Sanghis while Owaisi, Zakir Naik and such people are true representatives of Islam for the Liberals. How can we expect reforms ?
the comments have already said it but i also want to repeat that it is a great article. and mainly it exposes the infactual claims of Zainab.
Beautifully written… thank you for keeping things straight n clear…
Islam cannot be reformed. It must be rejected wholesale by entire humanity. Muslims should actually launch protest against islam itself, not (purported) right or wrong interpretations of quran.
Islam must be named and shamed for the evil religion that it is.
I kid you not, I’ve talked to Muslims online who think a drawing of MoMo is LITERALLY no different than sexually assaulting / raping someone’s mother. Voltaire coined it best with ‘Fanaticism’
“While most of them straightaway condemn the heinous act, few are coated with the spice of ‘conditions’. ”
You see only a few ?
Excellent rebuttal….Keep writing and exposing. Truth must prevail.
A positive thought, definitely. Changes have to come from within. Ancient texts are just that – ancient. Change is the only constant. You can’t move forward in reverse/neutral gears.
Well written. Thanks for writing.
Zazinab is an aboveground operative and apologist for the evil supremacist hatefilled cult founded by the genocidal, misogynist, slave trader, rapist pedophile.
Hehe , Moderate muslim???? Have you heard their taqiyya? Its halal to deceive kafir for the glory of Islam . Do not ever try to trust them. Merkel is a traitor who sacrifice her people for her ideals. European people have became spoiled, deluded in their ideals. That’s why they always complained about chinese, asian, indian robbed their job. Wake up, European people! I’m a chinese descendant living in muslim majority country. Many temples have been burned, many churches have been closed down, some town prohibits x-mas and even family ritual was prohibited, and bakery cannot display x-mas cake if they want Halal certificate. Tolerant ?? Haha , it;s just they perform taqiyya!
Malaysia is islamist ghetto, islam is evil, muhammad was genocidal misogynist pedophile. What to expect from such demon?
Brilliantly written, but completely wasted effort as it will have no effect on those for whom this article is intended. Is there a single Muslim who has come out in support of what the author has written in the comments section? How many Muslim journalists, and there are a few in The Print itself, have condemned the beheadings without whataboutry? In fact Zainab Sikandar told a lie when she wrote that “Dharma” is equivalent to religion. Is her knowledge indeed so shallow that she thinks that Kurukshetra War was about religion? And now think how that article made it past the editorial team, assuming that The Print has one.
Zainab Sikander is a frivolous writer. It is giving her too much respect and credence to rebut her silly writing so elaborately. But, the writer is bang on the point when leads arguments to conclude that Image of Muhammad lies in the hands of Muslims. Is murdering the supposed offenders only way of conlcuding an argument? Anyway, in Gita 2.33, Krishna advises waging war as a warrior’s duty. It is not prescribed for every follower of Hinduism. Anyway, in thousands of years, none has understood the defence and description of wars in Hindu scriptures as licence to go around beheading the supposed offenders.
I didn’t expect from print. Very well written article.
Excellent articulation by Aabhas ji in response to false equivalence between messages of Koran and Gita and interpretations by followers. Co existence of different faiths needs acceptance by all. Leaders and followers of any religion , who believe they are superior and their scriptures give them right to rule the world by killing others or by conversion are the real problems. This will face more resistance in the times to Come. Clearly responsibility lies with the believers of coexistence to raise their voice.
A few things got cleared – 1. Islam = Right to get offended and justify taking law in individual’s hand.
2. Muslims simply don’t care. This author does not even have 0.00000001% impact on Muslims with simply compared with Zakir Naik.
3. Comments from non-Muslims – if you read first 2 comments right, you rather worry for self and author. Expect no change in behaviour of Zainab and likes of her. Because of likes of Zakir Naik and secularist.
Not only Islam, they publish material which may offend all religions! Others let it pass! It is the Muslims who respond and such responses may include beheadings and acts of violence!!
Is their Muslim response per Quran? Please read on:
What blasphemy Law?
The Quran informs the reader that the Prophet was mocked, ridiculed (37:12) like the messengers before him (13:32; 15:11; 21:41). He was called an inventor, forger, a liar (16:101; 25:4), a man who was bewitched (17:47; 25:8), that he was a possessed poet (37:36). Insults were even hurled at the Quran, in that it was called ‘muddled dreams’ (21:5), ‘foreign, outlandish’ (16:103), an invention, a forgery (38:7) and tales of the men of the past (25:5).
However, the single most grave blasphemy was undoubtedly the blasphemy against God Himself.
7.180 “The most beautiful names belong to God: so call on him by them; but shun such men as use profanity (Arabic: Yul’hiduna) in His names: for what they do, they will soon be requited”
Arabic: Yul’hiduna – Blaspheme, deviate, violate, distort, pervert.
At no point did any of these insults attract the death penalty.
Rather, the advice was:
38.017 “Be patient over what they say and remember our servant David, the man of strength for he was repeatedly turning (to God)”
20.130 “Therefore be patient with what they say, and celebrate (constantly) the praises of thy Lord, before the rising of the sun and before its setting, yea, celebrate them for part of the hours of the night, and at the sides of the day: that you may have (spiritual) joy”
Whether repeated insults and evil transgression which incite hatred, terrorism and evil in the land can be classed as ‘fasaad’ remains a matter for the state to decide. However, this is very different from the general ‘blasphemy’ understood by many Muslims today who believe it correct to murder anyone for uttering anything against the Prophet.
So, God ask for help to his creatures? Isn’t that God is Supreme and himself created even no believers? For that case, God himself is capable of punishing those insulting him, but as you are being at his meet, and choose to fight to save him from blasphemoy, then you are clearly supporting the argue of nobelievers as they say , all the Gods and his so called Holly books are man made fictions..Instead of asking for mass destruction just arrange mass prays and. Ask God to interference ..
except MoMo was a fraud given how he failed miserably at the previous covenant. In Judaism, GOD HIMSELF punished those who persecuted the Israelites, and when Israelites were told what they must do in order to prevent being enslaved again, and they found that horrific, and subsequently were enslaved again. Jesus was mocked but he didn’t hire a group of thugs to kill those who insulted him. The fact that Mohammed claims to have Jesus’ OK is CLEAR proof that he doesn’t know anything Jesus taught. He denied the civinity of Jesus and claimed he was just some kid who made clay birds. Mo is literally the Antichrist. and let’s not forget the insults and mocking Mohammed did of the Meccan pagans and their idols.
Thank you Print, you have redeemed yourself by bringing this to us. That means many more years of subscription.
Excellent rebuttal to the article. When I first read the article by Zainab . I was pained to learn that the beheading of an innocent teacher in the name of their religion doesn’t cause abhorrent shame for the entire community. Instead they rant by quoting inaccuracies veiled as authentic references. The very fact that perceived insult to their so called holy book enrages them more than loss of an innocent life in the most tragic way , considering the attacker was using islam’s holy words clearly shows where their priorities lie. Very rightly said that their job is to call out the extremists and tell the whole world the extremists view is not the right one . Obviously of course if that really is the case one always wonders.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome. Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50, London: Longmans, Green Co., 1899).
AAbhas, I wish we had more voices like you!! all the digital platforms are openly biased and do not recognize ideology and Indic voices like you.. Great article!!
Excellent one, someone who has the courage to write, without offending any religious sentiments of pious muslims, More voices of moderate liberal muslism will help free Islam being held hostate by fanatics. Stop trying to convince non muslims, first protest kiiling sbeing done in the name of Allah.
I agree. Aabhas needs to be congratulated for writing a nuanced article on this thorny issue. If we have to fight fundamentalism then moderate voices must gather strength to speak firmly against such acts of cruelty as indulged by the killer of French teacher. There needs to be strong ‘ not in my name’ movements to dispel perception of violence attached with Islam.
Thank you so much to the author writing this. He has courage and be safe. Sir in south news papers used to publish so many cartoons on Ganesh especially during Ganesh chaturdi. They mix with humor. Everyone one likes those cartoons. Btw hinduism is way of life. No hindu fought wars on religion they fought for dharma
SG has deleted all comments. Maybe their paymaster from across the border has told them so.
Islam – offended by everything but ashamed of nothing.
People like Zainab Sikander are closet Islamists. They are happy when non-believers are beheaded or slaughtered but keep their glee hidden lest someone call them out for who they actually are.
However, if anyone from the Ummah becomes the target of violence and discrimination, they rail and rant.
As long as Muslims believe that killing an infidel will get them guaranteed place in heaven, there is no way Muslims will rectify their behaviour.
Ours is a hidebound, traditionalist society mired not so much in physical backwardness as in mental backwardness. Only a sick society living in the past would indulge in the kind of extended Sharia debates which seem to be one of our regular pastimes. Ayaz Amir, 14/2/14 The News.
Great ! What a reply to zaineb . Comparing gita with quran…..is foolish
In an interview with the German daily Bild, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban defended his country’s refusal of an EU-wide refugee resettlement quota, saying that he believed refugees are “Muslim invaders.”
Orban also rejected the idea that Hungary should be open to accepting people from majority-Muslim countries, saying his country “doesn’t want to be forced.” “We believe that a large number of Muslims inevitably leads to parallel societies, because Christian and Muslim society will never unite,” Orban told the paper. “Multiculturalism is only an illusion,” he added.
Exactly what everybody was thinking after reading Zainabs article
Not sure who the author is preaching to. If it’s to Muslims then the truth is they don’t care, including the likes of Ms Zainab Sikandar. Does the author seriously think that Ms Sikandar or those of the ilk don’t already know what the author has written. The truth is that there are 2 types of Muslims one those who behead and the rest like Ms Sikandar who support the beheading. Anybody else is not considered a Muslim. Instead of trying to enlighten those who refuse to see the light, what is more important is the reaction of the non-Muslim world. Whether they accept the ifs, buts and whataboutery of those who justify beheading whilst drawing false comparisons or will stay resolute to the their own beliefs based on freedom of expression, liberty, equality and fraternity. Giving homilies to Muslims is pointless. They have made up their minds. It’s for the rest of the world to decide.
Muslims are probably the only sect that have brought woe onto themselves by their own heinous acts, steeped as they are in their religious bigotry. It is time they gave free thought a chance.
”Millions of Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Jews and Buddhists are also poor, illiterate and oppressed. Do they engage in terrorism, riots and bomb blasts, population explosion and jihad like Muslims do? ” Taslima Nasreen
Muslims must always be Muslims, but the rest of the world must be secular. Muslims must have the right to change the demography of every non-Muslim countries of the world, but non-Muslims cannot have any such rights. Muslims must have the right to abuse other religions, demolish their religious temples and churches, but others cannot have that right. Muslims have the right to kill others in a train or in a church, but non-Muslims cannot reciprocate.
Well said that sir…
Prophet Muhammad is the greatest in the history of humanity according to #lamartine a French native. Therefore it’s the responsibility of the non Muslims to first clearly understand the basic principles of Islam not to argue out of context because the personality of Osama bin laden can’t be muched with the Muhammad and at the same time, the whole religion of Islam will not be criminalised cose of his acts thus his greatness to the light of Muslims can’t be faded away by what is so called “expression of freedom of speech which is 100times younger than the book of the prophet. I only welcome wise sayings. Islam the truth religion.
I try to avoid Muslims at all costs if I can.
Islam only right religion – lol, That’s the exact problem. Your faith is yours. If you want to impose your thinking on others, the matter will only be decided by war and this is why Muslims are always protesting for wrong reasons. If your prophet is great, show it by your community’s actions. As we can see from your words,you are a bigot and hater who is only loyal to ummah. Such ppl who cannot abide by nation state rules should move to an islamic country. Nothing wrong in saying this.
The life of muhammad shows clearly he was a robber at his very best and a scoundrel at his very worst. You muslims need to understand that.
Take it from me. ‘Not in my name ‘ protest won’t come in from Muslim community . All these secularism is only for Hindus.
This is a spiteful article written with a lot of hate and little knowledge and understanding of the religion. The author might be making references to scriptures to come across knowledgeable but seems clearly deluded.
You are a great example of what Abbas is talking about, lol
Please prove him wrong, if you can, with facts. Just writing English proves the hollowness of your rant.
It is the need of the day for moderate Muslims to come forward and take the leadership of Muslim minorities worldwide. Because if they failed the result would be catastrophic, as there would be polarization of Muslims resulting in counter-polarization of non-Muslims, which could lead to clash.
No such creature called the moderate Muslim exists. So the question of them taking the lead simply does not exist. The more extreme Muslims behead and the less extreme (moderate?) Muslims support the beheading.
Well said. Moderate Muslims need to come forward to unequivocally condemn fanatics.
as you have rightly mentioned, we have no problems with quran defending zainab sikabders and our problems are with extremists shouting allah -u- akbar.
but we are equally scared that the same zainab sikanders would take a foot if given an inch. if their likes are even given a glimpse of an opportunity, they will try their level best to impose their will on all non islamic countries and if possible convert them all into an islamic nation.
there in lies the danger to india.
that is why perhaps the so called rising hindhu militants believe that it is better that india becomes a militant hindhu state rather than a miltant islamic state.
Very well articulated article, good
It is a thoroughly researched reply.One wonders whether Zainab knew as much about Islamic theology as the present author.Obviously a scholarly counter.
A little unfair to ask 1.8 billion Muslims – one fourth of the world’s population – to take moral responsibility for what a microscopic minority is doing. Make a public spectacle of distancing themselves from acts of terror, which should not be classified / categorised as Islamic terrorism in the first place. Like young Muslim children being asked to wave the tricolour a lot more vigorously than their Hindu friends, whose patriotism is a given.
If that one fourth gives moral support to the acts of “microscopic minority”, then it is morally responsible for their actions. If you indulge in whataboutry, as Zainab Sikandar has done, you are morally responsible.
What about hindus/hindutvadis taking responsibility for lynchings (100 or so in a land of more tan a billion)which have always occurred in feudal/tribal parts but have suddenly come to media focus as an ‘indian’ problem as tho muslims here are unsafe in global media? Do you know how many hindus are lynched? perps of BOTH religions . Read the whole article. Answers your questions
Not unfair because they never do it. They never try to distance themselves from terrorists.
Thank you for arituculting so well almost all the thoughts that were in my mind when I read her article.
Oh My God! Couldn’t have expected better reply than this. Written in good context and facts. I must say Muslims should read this. They still follows Osama’s Quran and not Zainabs. Awesome.
So much hate in this article
Lol. Just like fighting Islamic terrorism is racism. And enforcing the law is islamophobia. You people will be corrected.
Where?
I hope this is sarcasm. The only hate is in you, that’s why you don’t have the facility of logical thought; you think in terms of identity and ‘stance’ not content and logic. Best of luck.
It is called truth. Learn to digest it.
Excellent Article. Once Again Aabhas has proved that he bring quality backed with facts . Well done. Keep it up
A big salute to the author from the depth of my heart. Its really a piece of intellectual and scholarly work though very short. It has torn off all of Zainab’s arguments for that matter most of the Muslim umma. I too agree that at least the so called moderate peace loving muslims should come out and say loud and clear “Not In May Name”. That will save lot for the humanity. Once again congratulations Mr. Aabhas.
Completely agree with you.
Your wish is a wet dream. Instead they will be happy to be part of it for jannat
Great!
You and your ###### proof …you drink milk wirh closed eyes doesn’t mean every one is in darkness. Here problems people like you are you got too close where in a position that make you blind. You can’t see anything
So watch from a distance where everything is visible then you can only see Humanity above all gods..
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